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sacredDefiance
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I have heard of many ways to become a vampire......The classical transfusion of blood, reflecting a dead body, a simple bite..........are just a few.

What other ways are there?

How realistic do you think these ways are?

What types of vampires do these ways create?

Discuss.......




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I have heard of the blood transfusion and the bite, I don't know how true the bite is...though it is the most common. I think the blood transfusion is a crock. But that is only my opinion



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According to legend, take up witchcraft. Or be a werewolf. Or be the seventh son of a seventh son. Then die.



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sacredDefiance
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Here I did some research into the topic and found this:

http://vampires.monstrous.com/how_to_become_a_vampire.htm#ways

check it out



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According to Montague Summers book, The Vampire in Lore and Legend, Vampires could also be made by improper burial, excommunication from the church right before death, being cursed, a woman raped by a vampire could give birth to one, and dying without last rites.

The lores/legends varied by country.



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Real vampires are born vampires, as i have read in various psy vampirisim sites, even tough some sustained that psy vampires can be turned through the exchange of energy, but i dont buy that one personally. Note that this a personal opinion, thus it is not was it is as fact. even the sanguarines type are born, so i dont belive in blood transusion and in bites to turn into a vampire... if this regards ficiton vampires then its another story.


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A lot of the changing methods are simply folklore or have been fictionized so in my opinion it'd have to come down to how you believe it could happen...i'm sold on the simple bite.



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if we are talking about traditional vampires, the n i would say a bite.
if we are refering to psy vampires or those who draw energy, then anyone who can take energy from another without their explicit permission is a vampire. notice i said take.



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The first vampires were born vampires. But as we began to becme more involved with humans, less vampires could be born naturally, and some had to have the change forced on them through blood or bite. not everyone can be a vampire. You must possess the genes.
I myself have seen the product of a blood transfusion and the bite. The bite is simple, but dangerous, and the transfusion is an exact art and can go terribly wrong as well.



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sacredDefiance
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I have recently read that people could be turned into vampires: if a cat jumps over their grave or if their soul cannot leave their body. Another is that if you are exumed and replaced by a banana tree trunk carved in your likeness. Also if you eat a piece of sheep meat that was wounded by a werewolf. And there is a widely known acclaim that vampirism is caused merely by a virus.



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well if we go by the myths from the books i read you can also be cursed into, another is that the atlanteans came up with a technology called nanos that were put into the body that regenerate n repair damage therefore forcing the body to ingest blood to keep repairing itself, etc, there are two more ways to add to the ways to become a vamp.



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i forgot to add that i guess those two ways are possible, althought im more apt to believe the curse is more so than the atlantean version, and as far as what kind of vamps they create, i have no idea, havent read too much into it. if you read the dark hunter novels by sherrilyn kenyon which is ONLY a fictional novel it goes more in dept to the atlantean thing, puts a new twist on vampirism, its not based alot out of fact, but its a cool read, i enjoyed them.



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Either you are or you aren't...It has to already be a part of you...It could have already surfaced, or it may be buried deep inside...The fictional stories, myths, and legends are just that, fiction...It's all about the Energy, your Energy...The timing of One's Awakening may vary, but is already apart of those who become Aware...



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most vampires are "awakend" durring or around puberty, but there are other ways to be awakend like the bite. it is a mostly psychological thing the action usualy is somthing you would relate to vampirism like a bite or blood and it unlocks a part of yourself you didnt know about. as for the transfer of psi energy, it is posible and in my personal experience it has worked but the person you are trying to awaken has to have the potential or show signs of psi vampirism before you just shove a strange energy into them.



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We all have our favorite ways in that vampires might have been created....to each there own....there are a million ways, fact or fiction, I could tell a story about being bitten....tasting the blood of my sire....extreme pain with a new awakening....but it would be a story...I truely feel that a vampire is created when you believe yourself enough to be one...I do not have to drink human blood to survive....I have but I don't have too....I can be in sunlight with out dying....do not really like sun light, but it's not harmful...I will not live forever in the hollywood since....my body will die unless Science changes that....I do prey on energy.....psy energy....I take energy from the people around me....vampire and humans alike....When I feed on energy I have powers....not shapeshifting, not the ability to fly....I feel stronger, I feel smarter, I feel very powerful....how was I created? I just became a vampire....it has been years....my powers increase every day.....but, if you want the truth as I know it there it is....

Diego


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Vampires come in many different forms. They take shape of their creator. Some may never know how they came to be it is just who you are! It is fun to fantasize about how it really came to be though!NFA



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I guess the only thing I can say is that Vampires are born that way, or they are Sired. I know that I was sired, and that he's never abandoned me since I was a kid. The question should be, how were vampires created in the first place?

Just my opinion.



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Dark Greeting's, I realy don't know as I wasborn not made.
Dark Blessing's,
KA



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Go to the library lots and tons of info there or google!~NFA



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i personally believe that the old folk tales of how vampires are born may be true, as in blood diffusions suicides and such what, but as always i have looked for other answers to vampirism, and one that i think could have spanned afew myths is the blood difficiency... which was treated by drinking human or mamal blood,... this was potent in the aristocracy of the past and didnt tend to skip generations due to the close inbreeding, also because of the inbreeding the people who lived in the same house,,, often looked the same and could be percieved as never having changed person,, by some neive peasents nearby, so i think that a mixture of hereditary and blood diffusion are most likely.... i do not however agree with the psychic vampire transformations(that does not mean i am against psychic vampires.



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There are plenty of people more qualified on this site to advise than i

But myself i concur with the earlier opinion that a Vampyre is born

I am and always have been me

Nothing can change that.



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Brother stabb well said I agree.
but the other kin thing I don't know but it makes me think so.. now I must read up on that, talk to some of the elders see there views on that



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Lord Ryu,

Thank you for the words of support. I'm glad that my words do not offend in regards to those who live the life more fully than I am able to.

I am troubled by the term 'otherkin', since it covers a vast range of non-human entities, but in order to refine the description of what may be capable of producing such an event, I would have to reach into the realms of the outrageous and I'm not quite ready to put my neck on the block for such ideas.

At least, not until I can come up with a half decent hypothesis n it...lol

Evangius and I had a rather in-depth discussion on the nature of otherworldy beings and supernatural intelligence's abilities to manifest within this physical plane, but damned if I can be bothered to look for it.

*enters hypocrisy mode*

Yeah, I know I tell people to go read the backlog threads in the forum, but since I wrote it, I don't think I have to go find it...

But if anyone does, I'll buy them A ONE-MONTH pm.

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I know that the most common answer i have been given about awakened vampires is that of a born trait but I've read that the original ones achieved that immortality through the rituals of death and rebirth so I'd assume that it was still a valid form of transformation though I've not seen anything solid on a historical support for those rituals.



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Perhaps it might be the case that the technique could have been refined over the ages?

Is it not possible, likely even, that the process becomes more of a learned ability after a while?

And what of otherkin today? Could not some of them be aware of the same process and utilise it as was done before?

Sorry for all the questions...



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See now I was under the impression that the statement 'awakened' meant that it awakened something already in you (something 'sleeping'). I was under the impression that this applied to the otherkin as well. An internal spirit that is and was always in line with the animal or beast. I was not aware that anyone could be 'turned' and because the ritual mentioned in texts is just that (a mention) one wonders if anyone could offer historical context or original methods. That would make it difficult to 'refine' if you don't know the recipe that your refining.



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vampires are born ,noone can turn a human into vampiure,or you have to be a latentvampire to be awake



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I like where your conjecture is heading and it's an interesting concept. It's difficult to say for sure though that those memories would be of a past life, your past lives or of some collective consciousness (a la Jung)?



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This is another area where I've dipped my toe in, not with a collective consciousness between individuals, but with one-self across parallel realities of awakened states. A conjoining of one's own identity, experience and knowledge into one supreme form of self-awareness.

Then link into a group experience and see what happens. And if the other members of that group also acheive the same state, well, the possibilities boggle the mind... to the point of giving me a headache...



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From reading about witchcraft, just practice the craft and die come back a vampire. Then the hollywood stereotypes.personally am not a vampire have not been bitten or drank a sires blood. But I have drank of my blood , had a pint of ice cream afterwards.



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MisfitChick423
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Couldn't you be sired? And turn, be "turned" into one? Or does it have to be born as one, or as a latent?



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I would have to say that something of it must already exist. Just about everything requires some form of foundation to build on. It is very hard to build and create without the materials to start with. Just an opinion.



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MisfitChick423
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Well your opinion does make sense



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hmm methinks it's time I chimed in......
since i feel that ALL people have latent psychic ability....then it within ANYONE to become an energy drainer...as I believe that energy manipulation is simply a psychic feeding per se
so in essemce..by my theory..everyone is a vampire potentially



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i hope that u are referring to something fictional like anne rice because im still waiting to meet a true undead vampire



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Depeneds on what type of vampire. I f you are wanting to be a blood vampire you must be bitten and then exchange blood with and by a vampire. Psy would have do it through hypnosis.



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me three....i totally agree with that one....Hence all this stuff on awakening and the like. We are all vampires potenially....



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Ledgens provide that excommunication, wizards, gypsies, witches, murderers and suicide victims all could make you a vampire.

James



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I read in a book once that eating a sheep killed by a wolf will turn you. I dont know how realistic that sounds. I dont really believe it because of how uknown tha tsounds. I have never heard of a transition from that. I have no idea waht kind of vampyre u become. Just something I read. the book is called.

The Vampire Encyclopeida
Author: Matthew Bunson



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There's always the pssibility that there is only the creator and no under world at all and there be only and heaven and you become a vampire after death simply because he doesn't want you in heaven. and for that it can be any reason.

just a thought that i put 10 seconds into



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i really dont believe in the bite way cuz then every victim will became a vampire, my be the transfusion way, vampire are mature persons, as far i believe, cuz no mere and stupid mortal will get such a gift, so suicide, or mere an accident as the cat, or wizard ways for me are not true, but something is sure, vampires chouse who will be vampire



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yes all is talking bout somme energy drainers and so on, ppl are capable of that and it is non new,mere energy drains do not make you a different species,wished vampire,it is just a human with his chakras wiedley open toward other energy sorces wich surround the subject,humans,animals,dead nature... ectr....what we need is total transmutation based on genetical level....bite is capable of doind sucha transmutation since aparentley contains different gene code wicg attaches is on pure human DNA cus human is compatibl,blood transfusion is the same thing just the larger amounts may confuse the human DNA wich can lead cells to go wild not knowing what do deside for,outcome :cancer...

and one can aply him self totaly in a sientific sense in the way that one will study the gene code of a human and eliminate those responsible for ageing and life adding those wich are in your eyes vampire genes....tempering with ensimes...

and shure if not able to aquire a bite,a heavy study of arcana and research can lead to a creation of a spell wich can inflict thise so much desired transmutation,or creation of a alcemical substance wich can inflict the same outcomme....

and as my dear mentor Enigma mentioned:awareness.you can start to transmute your mind and with that transmute your body,after all, all things sprang out of our own mind....

on the other hand research is all matter off will...since all like to bragg more bout it and not act in parallel with their soo much wished desire change....



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