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As you know, there are hundreds of thousands of types of beings and creatures the masses now call mythical. But, are they really? It's possible many of them once existed, but went extinct long ago. Perhaps some of them remain, but are in hiding. Take dragons for example. Cultures all over the world which never had any contact with one another until a few centuries ago have mentions of dragons in stories as well as art going back thousands of years.




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i think a lot of creatures that people have deemed "mythical" may still exist. i think its a matter of believing. if you don't think they exist, you're not gonna see them - or if you do, you'll think its something.

i think a lot of mythical beings may be on a different plane from us - like an energy plane. like angels or fairies. they may exist in a different realm and only sometimes show themselves to us.

who says our world is the only one in existence?



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I do believe they exist/existed in either of both connotations in regards of time/space. I have my reasons.



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I believe that some do exist and some don't. In essence I'm on the fence depending on the mythical creature being talked about on hand.

There have been reports about the Jersey devil that can't be explained. There have also been reports about the Mothman that cannot be explained. Same with bigfoot and many other Cryptozoic creatures in not only North America but all over the globe.

Depending on what creature is being said many things can and cannot be proven as facts and what can be false.



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Most mythical creatures are just that, mythical. There are few places for the myths to hide anymore. That is the true tragedy because we all need a myth to believe in.



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Many myths are simply third hand accountings of things people had seen through trade routes. Oliphants in LotR was suposed to highlight this phenomina.



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i belive that some are still around and that that we don't seem them cause we are not ready to see them take the pheonix for an exsample it has been talk about and even a few old reports of people seeing one for thousands of years i belive that are still around but chooses not to be seen by just any one and if you do see it or any other mythical animal you have been blessed



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The individual really does need to look up the definitive meaning to the word "myth." Since it seems to allude to something that does not entirely exist. In perspective, the true definitive meaning would be a fact based off of pre-historic data of something that existed long before recorded time.

History turns into legend, legend begets myth.

Those beings that are thought to have exist several hundred centuries ago, do infact exist. They just evolutionized on the intellectual and spiritual plane in a way, that they became higher then corporeal beings.

They reached a frequency that surpasses the avarage individual, and thus can appear and disappear on a whim. It seems to be a protective measure that they have been granted since the human race was not too friendly to them.

This would include such names as gnomes, dwarves, undine, sylph, dragon, fairy etc. If I were the individual that wanted to learn more, I would research the name "Telos." As well as "Mount Shasta" for more information.



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This is just off the top of my head but I dont believe in the ACTUAL mythical creatures but rather the human mind's ability to exaggerate and misinterpret what they see as something else. We are able to connect stories and certain feelings with stereotypical images passed down thru the ages. Maybe they are all in our head, maybe not. But dragons, for example cant be explained away because as previously noted in an above response, they are all over the world. Thats why its debatable...



Lol......or i just have no idea...that works too.

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Which is another reason why the vampire is defined in so many differant ways. Because history as well as society loves to exaggerate as well as misinterpret origins for their sensationalism, from books to movies and even media hype.

The dragon is much the same way. Now what if, the vampire is just an evolutionized version of the dragon? Whoops, can't do that... It would be exaggerating yet another defined idea regarding the same subject.

This is exactly what society has been doing from the beginning. Differant scenerios for the same popular myths. Just because the undine or sylphs are not that popular on the social scale, does not mean that they do not exist. They were just forgotten about because they did not seem that important to main stream society, even the roleplayers forgot about them.



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I have to hand it to humanity....when it comes to mythical creatures we stick to what we know best and what we can relate to. Thats why vampires, werewolves, and zombies are so popular......there is a certain emotional connection with something whose base was originally human. Maybe those mythical creatures are really just an evolved variation of the species.



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I believe they exist or have existed.. I mean thee are things undiscovered all the time, new species and old ones.



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There could have even mayhaps been a time when the "species" were actually considered "a race of." Rather then scientifically classified.



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Hehe, maybe they are not undiscovered,maybe there are things not given from discovered, two different things. I like to poiint out that this planet is a natural zoo of distinctive life that even science don't understand the complete make up,what if as we have monkey related humanoids, why cannot be wolf related humanoid, reptile related humanoid, feline related humanoid or bird related humanoid? those it transcripts to Gryphs, werewolves, werecats, bigfoot,etc. in a distant pass or is it seemed as people hallucinating, why would people invest time and effort to say this kind of accounts in the first place to make it a concept of influence?



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the human mind misunderstands things. i was watching some random documentary on tv awhile ago where these locals thought they had the bones of a giant (i.e. cyclops) when they were in fact mammoth bones....... Another case of mistaken identity where we made up an "ungodly creature" to explain away something that was not understood.



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What if its in fact a cyclops and the mammoth was a cover up? do you know this from first hand experience in investigation field? or you are sucking on the media and whatever it tells you to think? It is detrimental to personally judge in a unknown scenario and simply dismiss things by others implanting interpretations and limit of knowledge on things .



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well if u want to go that route how do we know mammoths are what people said they were? It all boils down to theory, mythical or not. If we have not seen it with our own eyes then how do we truly know? It is about perception, one of those great little tools we all possess with our own individuality.



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True and very reasonable, if so then;- contradiction can be found from one post to another. You cannot judge by just drinking the 'kool aid', something require personal intervention before dismissal or concretely asserting something by hear says, that is the concept of myth as well and how one thing is intensified/manipulated in time.



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im gonna go way off topic and just say that i LOVE how kool aid got into the mythical creature subject lol!!!



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I liked the kool-aid comment, but would have prefered a wine analogy since wine comes in all types of varieties and tastes due to aging. But kool-aid is good nonetheless.

I caught that "alluding to" scenerio you posted ~IlLuminaria~, an evolutionized race of humanoid something or anothers. From bird to reptilian, it reminds me of the same thing I am researching regarding the differant races of advanced beings from the inter-dimensional planes. You could not have been more precise in your "alluding to" ability.

What if most of the mythical creatures were these advanced beings that dwell within the dimensional atmosphere and simply choose which individuals see them and or when they deem others worthy of their attention?

Something to dwell on.



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Hehe yes! I find quite insightful that post, and even more in the notion that why is scientist trying to resolve with string theories to describe multiple dimensions to explain anomalies in the universe, which in fact they know but is just the facade of mainstream knowledge. The beginning of understanding of how the universe works by the compartmentation in degrees of clearance, in the discovery of this kind of things are present in the black operations. People that might know one thing don't know others clearance of knowledge, you could acquire knowledge of this theory and yet know nothing that you are walking around other individuals that know about races of beings, dimensions, or acquired knowledge of other sources. In reference to this is the example of Enoch and his stories, where he knew this "Angelics" and left with them in given time, and was never seen again, now the accounts are in books and nobody could really tell if its all mythology or it did happened to him simply because it was excluded from public domain. Evolution, earth science, astronomy, history has being so edited, that I don't even want kids for the simple notion that they will have to drink the 'kool aid' and become part of the programed illusion of scholastics. Sometimes is better to remain ignorant and just get on with life the best way you can before trying to resolve the issue of "bad guys".



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I thought you were actually using the analogy of "kool-aid" as a reference to the many types and variation of certain things.

As far as the Enoch reference regarding this subject goes pertaining to his disappearance, it could be speculated that this could have been the way the Mayan disappeared as well.

Just throwing that out there.



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Hehe! You know more than you think. Ascendacy is marvelous. You see mayans had the same problems as we have in this times in regards as civilization. Could it be resonant to what is heading? Makes you think. But you can draw check marks on symptoms of ancient civilizations such as that and others predating it in correlation with our present condition and you could find surprising if not compelling similarities.



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Its not that I know more then I think, it is the fact that I leave out details of what I actually know and only reveal half tidbits regarding certain things in this forum.

I let certain information out that only pertains to the threads in general and rarely if ever, give out the whole story as apposed to a simple chapter of that story.

I love to allude to certain things, this is what makes society think for themselves rather then reading an entire story with a conclusion at the end. I let society draw their own conclusions based upon their own research from the material that I present from my end.



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Given that even they drew the line saying at what time the materialistic era will end (us). It is sad that the mysteries pertaining that group-race is kept from the public, you can only see the facade of things. It remounts more work to actually scavenge for residue than having this masons revealing it. That reminds me of the library found in the sphinx structure and confirmed by remote viewers and ground scans of a cavity beneath the structure, yet no permission to extract that valuable information, only few to know what it is all about; it sad how this works.



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I never said where I get my information from. Only partial information comes from fraternal libraries, but of course when I say partial I do not nessessarily mean conspiracy theories of "alien cultures."

Through years of research and studies from all things life brings, I draw my conclusions from various cross reference materials that are depicted as common sense truth, from fallacy and illogical conesquence. But I do have supported documentation to prove most of my theories as justified and valid.

Which is why I bring some of it to the table and let the audience decide for themselves on the accuracy of said information when it regards to what at those opportune times.



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Hehe! Dont worry the Amaro conspiracy is real, the advantage of this even will lead to the greater conflict, when you see "unions" from parties around the world. This is not presented in general public but will soon feel the effects of the "need to make an new currency by the decadence of our current economy colapse", and you will find the Asian unifying, Mexico, Canada, US unifying, Europeans as well and the " theatrical play" taking place not so far from now. but I guess we are deviating from mythology hehe.



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Actually, it is not nessessarily deviating from the topic, simply adding to it. This is what mythology is all about. We would be the creatures from histories past in about 500 years, since we all know the Earth has survived this long, it will for the next million.

Thus, we are adding to the topic.

As far as the "Amero", it was an idea that is speculated to happen within the next few years, but this would be a political discussion and as such is against the TOS, which is why I rarely talk about it here.

I leave that kind of information within the B.S. report inside my journal. (Not a shameless advert for journal viewing.)

As far as the regular mythological creatures such as dragons, as I have stated in a previous thread, the oriental structure is based on a myth that their ancestors came from dragons. Which is why their facial features seem as though they are a representation of that creature.

This would also allude to differant humanoid type creatures.



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I think there is always some truth to any myth ,It had to start from somewhere. I firmly believe in fairies , Dragons, goblins and hobgoblins , and all other mythical Creatures.but then what do I know . I,m one of those mythical creatures myself as they say .I,m a witch.



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I believe they're around.. Perhaps they have evolved over the years.. becoming diluted.. And yes, I'm a hopeless romantic, so I believe in certain mythical creatures... Like the unicorn, phoenix, vampire, and yes, the werewolf... Why would you consider a witch to be a mythical creature?



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I think that at one time they could have existed but now I don't think so.



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There are MANY places on earth that are yet to be explored.
With those places, I am sure we will find many "mythical" creatures that only few believed in before there was proof

I am one of those few



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intresting i think theire is still thing we havent foud out their time to find difrent things that can spark our imagination



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The problem is, once they are determined to be real, then they are no longer mythical. It seems to take away the magic and the beauty.
Some things are much better if they remain mythical rather than becoming common-place at which point they will be taken for granted.



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I know that the bible mentions unicorns 9 different times.


In addition to Job 39:9–10, the unicorn is mentioned in Numbers 23:22, 24:8; Deuteronomy 33:17; Psalm 22:21, 29:6, 92:10; Isaiah 34:7.



Job 39:9–10:
9 "Will the wild ox consent to serve you?
Will he stay by your manger at night?

10 Can you hold him to the furrow with a harness?
Will he till the valleys behind you?"

Numbers 23:22:
22God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.

Numbers 24:8:
8God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows.


Deuteronomy 33:17:
17 In majesty he is like a firstborn bull;
his horns are the horns of a wild ox.
With them he will gore the nations,
even those at the ends of the earth.
Such are the ten thousands of Ephraim;
such are the thousands of Manasseh."


Psalm 22:21:
21 Rescue me from the mouth of the lions;
save [a] me from the horns of the wild oxen.


Psalm 29:6:
6He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn.


Psalm 92:10:
10 You have exalted my horn [a] like that of a wild ox;
fine oils have been poured upon me.


Isaiah 34:7:
7And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.



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Alot of myths came from stories of old and perhaps in the mind of thosw individualsthese monters or creatures did in fact exist. so maybe they were real or delusions od a warped mind.



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i think the myth of dragons came about from finding fossils of dinosaurs. they're all over the world and if i didn't know better and found one i what probably believe there were dragon type creatures still on the loose.



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Wild oxen are not unicorn, please keep to valid references. Uni - one horn only, ox have two.



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Unicorns are mentioned through antiquity, even as far back as the bible, which mentions Unicorns in two places.



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I can see a few possible answers for this question, some already explored by posts above this one :


1) "Mythical creatures once existed on Earth; it is just that they have been slain or have VASTLY reduced numbers."

This is certainly plausible because if the world was full of monsters, some more vicious and predatory than others, than perhaps out of fear the humans at the time hunted them down and killed them all. Wouldn't want a Manticore at your door or a Sphinx harassing you with riddles everytime you wanted to go into the supermarket, now would you?


2) "These beings exist, but in realms distant from us."

These beings may well exist, just not on the same plane as us, and all encounters with them before, now and in the future can be attributed to an individual's or a group of individual's personal ability to see what is "hidden". Seeing is believing, and I believe that if one perceives something to exist, it will, if not at least just for them.


3) "These monsters are nothing more than rare, often dying breeds of prehistoric or otherwise not common creatures."

The Lochness Monster may just be an Elasmosaur, an aquatic dinosaur that fits the description of Nessie: long neck, and the size is about right as well. Bigfoot might be an example of a surviving Australopithecus, an early form of man thought to be extinct.

. . . .I do believe they've found sea creatures thought to be long extinct near the bottom of the ocean floor, or at least remains of such, so perhaps there is truth to my third argument



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No doubt some of the creatures existed in one form or another. Others are pure myth either cases of mistaken identity or the results of the stories that ancient cultures developed in order to explain the world around them.
As an example, the Aztecs believed that the the four Gods had trouble with a sea monster named Cipactli who was part fish and part crocodile. Each of their creations fell into the water and was in turn eaten by the monster. A war resulted and eventually the creature was destroyed and it's body was used to create the cosmos. Obviously the monster did not exist, at least in this context, but it did help explain to the people where the heavens had come from.



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Exactly. One can look to the Norse mythology of the region of Scandinavia and see the frost giant Ymir, after being killed, used similarly in their creation myth.


To follow slightly off topic, isn't it fascinating how many similarities exist between the creation myths of different cultures?



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Yes it is. If I am not mistaken the Cherokee creation involved seven days.



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At last someone is getting the picture and steps out of absolutes. You see things throughout civilizations are understood in their limits, you can later interpret the sea as space and monsters as evil beings and have a complete same event different story stemming from mythology.



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People tend to relate to what they understand and try to find a way to relate to what they don't. Either they find a way to explain it or they try to destroy it. Or both.



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I saw the subject line of this forum thread and it reminded me of this:
mythical creatures - a Venn diagram



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some are real you just cant see them beause you dont want to or they dont want you to or they have no form you can see.



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I dont agree with a witch being considered in any way to be a mythical creature as discussed in a previous post. Wicca is a path chosen. While few develop true power, many can follow and become somewhat adept at it. Its attainable to a certain extent.



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Witches are not mythical. They are all around us.



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Look around on the VR. We have witches here. We have Vampires here. If you can see them or talk to them they cannot be myths.
However I don't know of any unicorns or dragons posting here.
Does that mean they never existed? No, it means there is no proof, therefore they are myths until there is proof. Does that take away their power? No, the myths will hold their power as long as there are those who believe.
But once we can prove they exist they are no longer myths.



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I love Mystical creatures and interesting shows pertaining to them.
My Favorite of course the Dragon!
I hope some day someone finds the remains of one and finally prove to the world attire that they did exist!
Every Culture around the globe respects and displayed them in some fashion, can't imagine the entire world is wrong about them once existing.



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I think there are lots of animals and creatures that just got forgotten about an have stayed hidden to survive. That's were cryptozologist doing there work. And deserve more credit then they get.



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I believe that in the depts of the ocean there are creatures not yet discovered. I also agree with the dinosaur theory. I believe that at one time there were Unicorns, although I don't believe in the Bible.



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I would love to see them find proof of some creatures, then all the skeptics can woooo at ther're own disbeliefs!
remember that at one time people believed the world was flat, dino's didn't exist, men couldn't fly, men could never leave this planet and go to the moon. Telephones,Tv's, Airplanes, etc, etc, etc!
If it we not for those that believed otherwise, hell we would all still be cave men!
Technology, Science and Theory harness beliefs and bring them to reality!!!!
Lost worlds and Creatures are no different!



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I have to agree with Sire Tzaddi, there are things hidden below the surface depths of the oceans floors that we can not yet get to in discovering but are working on it little by little.
Another place would be beyond the ice caps of the north and south poles as even possibly beneath miles of sand in the middle east.
We don't know yet what really was until we can explore those places to be certain.

The narwhal of the antartic however possibly being the legendary unicorns displayed on ancient text stones to me highly unlikely.
Would be great when they find proof of other creatures we deemed fable or fiction someday.



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Found some cool upcoming updates to corrilate with your thread DJ,

Animal Planet is showing "Lost Tapes" again
It is based on half recorded files and the most recent unexplained case that is presented in docudrama fashion related to Mythical beasts of Unknown Origin.

**Vampire** airs Tuesday 09/28 at 10:30pm EST. and again at Wed. 09/30 at 12:30 am EST.

NightFlyers: Sun. 09/27 at :00pm EST.
Death Raptor: Sun. 09/27 at 5:30 pm EST.
Oklahoma Octopus: Sun. 09/27 at 6;00 pm EST.
Lizardman: Tues. 09/2/ at 10:30pm EST. and again Wed. 09/30 at 12:30 am EST.

Check your own local listings for times, hope you at least check out **Vampire**



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ITS ALL REAL...every culture does not just randomly come up with things just for the hell of it. Maybe dragons breathing fire or ice breathe isnt real or maybe vampires changing if wolves or using mind control as viewed on tv isnt real. But the BEING is. I can persuade ppl to do my bidding that a form of mind control......ITS ALL REAL!!!!!! Believe or die




.......ignorance is bliss.....



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I agree on a certain level with COK.. I think in so many cultures thee have been reported of creatures so i say they had to exist.



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I think that anything is possible, but without having been there its hard to say if its true they existed or not...



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I am all for the theories of different dimensions as well as reincarnation. Mind you this is personal belief and not any fact or truth so no quoting me on this...

With the dimension theory, I do believe that there are different dimensions of time and space, that other worlds exist in differing dimensions. Therefore many of the mythical creatures cross over form other dimensions.

And as with reincarnation, I don't believe we reincarnate just on this one tiny little planet... there is a massive infinite universe out there... so perhaps some of these creatures are memories from other lives on other planets.



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well, I'd like to believe in the Lochness monster, but i would have thought we'd have captured one after all of this time.
There's always Champ, from lake Champlain.



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there has been a lot of good points made here
i still have to say though that some of them such as the dragon,pheonix and the unicorn use to exist if they did not where did the myth come from it just can't come from mis understandings alone that is impossible

and brenda there has been sightings and proven sightings of the Lochness monster around the black sea



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I think maybe they use to exist and maybe they still do but not on this plane they could on another but not this one cause if they did more than just a hand full of people would have seen them by now



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I think you should always have something to believe in that you've might never see life is full of mysteries and in every myth there is some truth. as to why I say witch's are mythical is because so many people say we are not real either. but in our hearts we know just like everything else we are as real and anything else. Maybe as Adults we don't believe in these Mythical Creatures because our hearts are heavy with burdens of work , children and bills and every day life.
as a Child we had care free lives and a excepting and open heart we saw life and the mystical side of things with a light and happy heart full of wonder and belief in all things.
AS for me I would rather believe with the heart of a child them the blackness of a adult for this is what keeps you young.



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That was very well said.
Most of these creatures might never existed.
But they should have. And that is why it is sometimes good to believe.



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very well said ladySnowStrixx



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nicely said



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Some still exist... they just mutated over time for their own protection.... others, became extinct over time.

Leoderloewe



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that could be so but know one really knows for sure



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they exsist, then agiain they may not- who can actually say for sure one way or the other?



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i once watched a documentary that claimed to had found proof on a battle between a trex and a dragon saying that the claw marks on the trex bones matched no known animal and the skull had been particle burned



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'Mythical' creatures do exist, and are the only people to be reincarnated. Yes, that includes vampires. Sadly though, unicorns now only exist in human form. My husband taught me this. He has a lot of memories from our previous life.



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i have always found the thought of mythical creatures interesting.

i do think it is possible for one to have a faith in the belief of certian mythical creatures

some i think may have existed and some i think merely were stories used as warnings for children

maybe it is possible that some may perhaps still exist today...ass they say anything is possible with an open mnid.



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It's entirely possible.
Thousands of years from now, who's to say that the Do-Do bird won't be considered a mythical creature?
*laughs*



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My thoughts.

As I've always said anything that is consdiered a myth now at one point had to be. I always believed that these stories of other beings or creatures had to come from somewhere. It had to be at some point or another in history. After all there was point where there was a time when we didn't write or document things down and it was just passed down through stories. But of course even stories change kinda like the game phone. Where the first person says something and by the time it gets to the end of the line it is completely different. There I go rambling again, but there you go.



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I know of some mythical creatures but I know that they don't exist. Like dragons, phoenixes, and unicorns. I wouldn't know why though.



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consider a time when printed word was rare, mass produced anyway. Then picture a travler, they see a Crocadile, or Moniter lizard, they relate that that through a letter back to home.

the person that reads the letter goes off, and orally relates that story, someone embelishes, or uses the source as fodder for a fable. This can also be reasoned to account for mythical humans, a stranger to a land that never saw flint, and steal make a spark to start a fire takes the observation and shares it orally to others.



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i realise some regard it as a sort of cop out, but this is my true feeling on the subject.
in hamlet, the line is said in act one, scene 5.
there are more things in heaven and earth, horatio,
than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

i take this to mean (for me at least) that while there might not be hippogryphs flying around, there may be many more things that exist than we can prove at this time.

this includes a certain number of ghosties and goulies and long legged beasties and things that go bump in the night LOL

basically just dont completely discount something because you cant wrap your mindset around it.
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We do not know all things under heaven, creatures or spirits is new science. Remember alot in history was counted as absurd or fiction or rare yet we have come to know of it.



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Humans are impressionable, and all it takes is a skilled writer to present an adaptable concept, for an example one just need consider the Necronomican, it is a work of fiction, yet people insist that it is factual..

Even the Norse don't actually insist that their gods where anything but personifications.



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I believe in the Phoenix.. And what it stands for.. Myths carry a deeper meaning than what they appear to be. The creatures each represent a different thing. I feel a closer relationship to the Phoenix than any other mythincal creatures such as the unicorn, though they are really beautiful creatures. "Rising from the ashes" represent a sort of rebirth, and a new life that no other creature represent.. and this is what made me feel a little safer. That change in life is necessary, and inevitable. I've been through alot in life, and the Phoenix brings a deeper meaning than it does to some other people.



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Depending on what creature is to whether or not I think they are still around and if they are whether they are on the same plane as us or a different one. Like ghosts, angels fae and such like those I think are on another plane. Unicorns and dragons are either extinct, evolved into something else or there are a few survivors hidden somewhere like the amazon. Hello people we are still exploring in depth this world and there are places for them to hide. Example would be mer-people. We have not even toughed the full depths of exploring the oceans. Maybe we have not seen them for so long because they know how morbid we have become and would just lock them up and experiment on them. There fore they hid. Then there is the newer creatures like big foot, the yeti, Ness, and the jersey devil. They are out there we just cannot catch them. Honestly I don't think I want them caught either. The human race is a very dominate race and will try to conquer anything to the point of killing it.



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I still have trouble NOT believing the possible existence of the sasquatch.

I know there are plenty of stories and tall tales to entertain everybody, but there are also a large number of stories with eyewitnesses and people in Arizona that would give you pause to think.

It's up to you what you believe, but I still think we don't know the whole story.



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It is a vast world and even more vast universe out there. perhaps someday we will see and know that the Creatures that once exhisted here from ancient drawings are still possibly alive and dorment to maintain survival.

Just a few years back the Tazmanian Tiger was believed to be extinct and now researchers are finding conclusive evidence that they may still exhist as well as the Biblical Lion or black mane lion.



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I too believe there's no smoke without fire in regards to myths such as 'Bigfoot' and Atlantis, but some myths may have been dragged up from people's subconcious thoughts and put into written word as they represent want people fear or strive for such as the mythical Phoenix who represents death and rebirth, the Yeti who represents fear of the unknown etc



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Think about it this way, Behind every myth and legend there is truth. There were dragons and all sorts of creatures which we deem fantasy. But entertain this thought for a moment, If you were a dragon, or a fairy, or a tanuki, or kitsune... would you ever consider revealing yourself to this generation? There are Scientists that would be itching to butcher you. Those seeking to use your abilities for personal gain. Those trying to kill you solely out of fear (which I suppose wouldn't be too different from previous generations). It would simply be scary for any of them to even consider revealing themselves. Humanity, for all its positives, still has a knack for being skittish and rather dangerous.



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Greetings fellow myth Lovers:
Lets start by laying all the cards on the table. All legends are based on fact. With that out of the way i'd like to say that not only do I think Strange Creatures exist, I know they exist. I know, get the boys in the white coats, the "Creature's" flipped his lid. Let me explain.
I was asked last year to write the forward to an anthology book called "Creature Features." It was an anthology of stories about creatures and monsters that were not vampires, werewolves, or zombies. These were the "Other" creatures. The things hidden in the shadows in the deepest corners of our minds. The place where monsters dwell. I felt honored so I had to come up with an interesting foreword to this book (which also contained a story of mine as well). While thinking about what to write it suddenly dawned on me to relate my own experience with monsters, and yes I've seen a few. But, before that I want to talk about the legend based on fact thing. Let's start with everyone's favorite mythical creature...the Unicorn. Do they exist. I'm pretty sure they do and they have another name that's not as exciting, The Oryx. This antelope has two distinct thin but very long horns that when viewed from certain side angles take on the look of a single horn at a distance. They are small antelope and could easily be regarded as a horned horse with cloven hooves. Not as exciting as a magical unicorn but very much real. The Narwhal (which has already been mentioned) is a toothed whale with a long tusk that looks like a horn. Viking traders brought them south selling them for great amounts of money as unicorn horns.
Now let's go on to the biggest box office seller in Mythical creature history; The Dragon. Are they real. Emphatically I say...Of course. One would be very closed-minded not to believe in them. Are they dinosaurs. Probably not. They don't have to be. They exist today. And get this (get the nets boys) some of them even fly. Here goes. There are many Saurians in the family Agamidae that have earned the name of "Dragon." There are Bearded Dragons, Frilled Dragons, Angle-Head Dragons, Water Dragons, Sail-finned Dragons (They are really cool), Great River-Crested Dragons (my personal favorite), Mountain Horned Dragons, Nose-Horned dragons and one of the weird ones The Lyre-Head dragon. There are even several species of Flying Dragons. These animals all exist in nature and many of them have the attitude to back up the name. I know, I have worked with them and have been bitten. In the sea there are also beautiful and graceful Sea Dragons that will make anyone say WOW!!!
Then there is that most famous of all modern dragons...(drum roll please) the Komodo Dragon. This monster can grow to ten feet in length and is an intelligent stalking predator easily capable of killing a human being. So have I convinced you now that dragons exist? Now you to can emphatically say, yes they do.
Now let's talk about Bigfoot, Yeti, Sasquatch, Florida Skunk Apes, Yowies, and countless other ape-like creatures that are said to roam the earth. Do they exist? Well, I hate to say this but since I saw one myself I'd have to give this group a two thumbs up. Yep, they exist. Balderdash you say? (well you might if you were a stuffy old rich English gentleman) Well consider that until they were discovered around 1910 the Mountain Gorilla was thought of as a Yeti- type creature that roamed the forest of Africa. Well, they were right. They are a Yeti-type creature that roams the forests of Africa. A physical flesh and blood animal.
Now I have a theory as to what some of the others are. North American Indians believe in them and actually have them as part of their story (maybe not all Am. Indians, but some anyway.) It is possible that they exist in a spiritual plane and only make their presence known on occasion. Still it is possible they are true flesh-and blood creatures which are very elusive. There is so much circumstantial evidence of their existence and sightings are quite numerous that there are field guides out there for them. I looked through one once and learned that all the "Man-Apes" found in the new world have feet like a man and all the "Man-Apes" found in the old world have opposable toes. I wonder why that is. I guess I'll have to buy the book.
The movie "Harry and the Hendersons" pointed out something interesting at the end. When Harry went to go home his family just became visible, seemingly out of nowhere, to take him back. Is this the way they really are? Do they meld with nature in such a way to make themselves invisible? Only time will tell.
I could go on-and on but I get a bit long-winded when a topic excites me. I love Cryptozoology and have seen a couple interesting things. I leave you with this thought. If we create things in our dreams to interract with is that not real. I think it is a form of reality whether it is us experiencing something on a different plane of existence or taking a glimpse into something we will experience later. I had a dream last week that involved a strange mythical creature and I was actually able to get my hands on it. To make an even longer story short, I rescued a girl being mugged by something...Spring-Heeled Jack, and I kicked his butt. It sure was real to me. There's lots of other legends and myths out there and if we can all learn to view the world from a different perspective, to see it for what it is and not how we've manipulated it, then maybe some of these "Mythical Creatures" may turn out to be very real.
Have a Great Day!!!
John (aka, the "Creature")


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The myths that we know now have come from places...wheather by old ladies in 1892 or so...but none the less most of the 'myths' we know today do/did exist at some point in time. The 'Mortals' of this world over the years have brought them down and forced them into hiding. The 'stories' came from somewhere right...now I'm not saying that I believe in big foot, but maybe that's not such a far feched thing...it is possible that years ago he did exist, but that he could have died. We will never know.
If more people opened up their minds again and brought down the chaos of this time..then maybe the 'mythical' beings will once more come out and play, and be with us all once again.



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adaptable concept, for an example one just need consider the Necronomican, it is a work of fiction, yet people insist that it is factual..

Great ref. dab... And we have all either heard or told a "fish tale" so any mythical creature could be that, or could be real. In science you cant disprove anything, only prove it



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Hello:
Science will not wrap around anything that cannot be placed on a table before them and disected...even if they know the truth. To admit things out of the norm "exist" is to lose valuable money in grants along with lost opportunities for reseearch. These are the cold hard facts so trying to prove "uncertain realities" is a catch 22 game at best.


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ANDRAMIDA3
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Yes that is why scientists upset me and anger me to no end.
They only do things when its convenient for them. And most of them are heartless and could careless about those who die due to the fact that they have no money and can't afford to pay for a cure.



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They only do things when its convenient for them. And most of them are heartless and could careless about those who die due to the fact that they have no money and can't afford to pay for a cure.

You're painting with a pretty broad brush here. I don't think you really understand what it is that scientists DO.


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ANDRAMIDA3
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No I know I am...I have learned about scientists since I was a kid.

And when some rich guy can get the cure for cancer, why couldn't my mother?



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Everyone will always hold to what they believe to be real or make believe or just old wives tales told down thru the ages.



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ANDRAMIDA3
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That is absolutly true.



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I believe that Dragons and other myth creatures did exist.



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Hello:
It is often said that many myths are based on fact. Therefore there is no reason why many mythical creatures aren't still with us today. There are some mythical creatures which are purely fictionalized but there are many others based on things that still roam the earth.
The neat thing is that some of the really strange ones are still seen by many, even today. Myth, reality...who knows. One must always be vigilant and keep their eyes open for any possibility. There is a saying that I really like that easily pertains to this discussion; "Some can't see the forest for the trees!" It's time to notice the forest.
Have a Great Day!!!
John (aka, the "Creature")


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this is true for not the other day i thought that i saw out of the corner of my eye a dragon and that is saying something for i try to keep an outlook for the dragons of this world whether they be spirit or not



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Well my opinion few of them are false and to create psychic advance the story is created. others mythical creatures are true and living in time space or some where in the universe.

say bigger than ostritch and big flying birds are possible in different gravity and atmosphere where the densed air.



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Hello:
Thunderbirds come to mind as giant birds that still roam the skies. Many native peoples believe in them and there are many "supposed" sightings even in recent years.
Science says what people are sighting are condors or Stellar Eagles, I say "Thunderbirds!!!"
Have a Great Day!!!
John (aka, the "Creature")


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every culture holds some sort of mythical creature in their fables, yet are the illusions of a twisted mind or references from stories passed from word to word. and the fable becomes distorted. I believe behind a fable lies a truth within it.



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