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To this thread I do take opportunity to put a quest of what is true self and how did you derive this opinion.

Some says their physical body is true self which have all body parts. Some says the mind is true self and some says their spirit is their true self and some says their soul is true self. some says their kinship is true self...

Please guide me what is true self and why? I am running this quest to acquire and analyze the knowledge of true self person to person.

For me there is not one thing that indicates the one true self of someone, to me that is something that is forged in time, and time again, as you mature you change your views on things and there is not one time where you can say you are like you are, maybe you die and that true thing erased into history and a new person with more experience is born in spiritual form, for those reincarnation believers and adherents, you cannot think that when you get the chance to see all past lives you might say: well all those are my true self, when it only shows you how you've evolved in many lifetimes until the enlightenment stage and continuos growth parting from then & on. So the true self is the one self with everyone, as thing grow closer the true self collide with others interaction, so the true self keeps evolving/devolving in time depending on the paths to follow. Simply there cannot be a true self if we have our premature developmental stage of programing which is by random upbringing, you don't choose who will be the parents and teachings so the true self cannot be directly affected by a personal lifetime program alone but on all there is that we don't know or yet to understand beyond the limitations of cognitive science. For those who remain in the physicality the answer is easy your true self is the one you believe you are right now, which in my opinion is very flawed, but welcomed in theorem anyhow.

My Opinion true self must be beyond every thing among us and even beyond the process of living and beyond cause and effect in or on our body, too. what ever lead us to take shape or act and lead us to stay and live and goes first after the death will be the true self.

At Gross level the above post is true at all but what about micro level, thou must give more thought to realm more open.

one true self must be above of all these things coz mind too is comanded and forced to thnk (act) in the desired direction of the self or kin then mind too is not the self, if process is true self then it should not have initiater in the self if it have initiator in the self then that initiator is the the true self, the true self must have all these features and even making features of our celestial dimension too.

This means in my opinion true self is above celestial dimension too.... I think so...

Yes IT all changes depending on the philosophy you adopt, someone who believes there is no life after death, would tell you his true self is what he is typing now. As well as a buddhist would tell you that it is our enlightened state of being, the soul and its virtues. As a christian will tell you whatever god gave me and made of me is my true self, as a suicidal would tell you he doesn't know his true self or meaning. So there is no absolute when it comes to arbitrary perception. As in micro scale as I said on my first post there is no true self now, because the true self is now, and now and now and each second my head revolves on what we speak of changes in questions and explores, furthermore design other variables, and furthermore doesn't make me think the same way as 1 minute ago in terms of whatever Im laying my head to mechanize, and that changes over all my persona when Im addressed with a similar question( wouldn't say the same thing as I learn more and edit in the way).

When you talk about celestrial dimensions, do you mean the 12 dimensions of life? Or the higher frequencies of the metaphysical?

Yes they are nicely etwined into each other and this too varies belief to belief. But all type of energies are grossly called the sphere of energies or body of energies... may it be magnetic energy or motion or other energies...

the true self must be above all these...

I think the true self must be there coz withut it we are just false or mirage or lying mixture of organs and elements only and nothing is self controlling and our processs is going in the hand of creativity and creation leading to automatic happening through us as token of fate... but there must be one real true self which can vary the process of creation and creativty automatically.

Even though the fate of universe and the act of human written in the begining of the universe, there must be one thing true self can impact on this formulatin.

I believe you are discussing the Blueprint of the Soul, or Akashic Records. Ascension discussion. As pertaining to the Higher Self (true self form).

Umm, I think soul does not fit here because we did not see or feel the soul, akashic record is the effect of the cause so it too is not the source... ascension too is the body which regulated due to course of mind body and intellect. but the true self must be the true source which initiate the process of all these as giving the space to wait wait...

Now I am forming the opinion...

I think the consciousness is the source which create the space for vital spiritual energy inflow in the body and to initiate the process of life. and after death the first thing to go is the conscious. then only other process stops from the body.

What is your opinion about this too and what is your opinion about the other possibility of true self?

Because, see the meditator meditate on this over the period yet do not find it till they become to know the consciousness the awareness of each process of life and living is the beyond most... mind intellect and physical body too react to act after the consciousness if not erred. In dream state too conscious goes with the person in astral too consciousness is there, it lives in each part and every process of our body as our conscious about it... unconscious body and mind is the soulless. thus i think the consciousness is the soul of all type the body. and without that we are just only a matter or no matter which do not have self consciousness.

It's mind boggling, please guide me...

*Chuckles* Was that a request, or a rhetorical statement.

The comment "please guide me."

yes it is the request to think over true self more and more and other ideas too to be given coz one side thought always harmful to judge by each individuals... each of post here is precious for me to think over each post again and again to analyze the tre self coz that only will open us to use that tool to know whether the supreme exist in the universe and if yes then what its form and source be.... coz personally I love to reach my any signal to that Supreme... and or can make my true self even wide open or more able...

I think i proved Honorable Firmament's opinion that true self is nothing just the consciousness of our self...

Lucky for me that I usually don't depend on other opinions, just a philosophy. I am too far into my research to gain any knowledge from opinionated beliefs.

No offense.

Its nice that work on right knowledge is better than go through opinion. I am agree with thee. But the quest will be live forever for me till science or other sector do not answer or esteblish firm view or any literature on this. coz there is one thing is supreme in our body which we can initiate to reach our attention to the Supreme of the Universe or Supreme of the all worlds.

Is scientific literature ever "firm"? Even if it stems from years of research, still does not make it valid in the long run, unless the individual views are succinct with the studied material. You know, personal research and straight forward conclusion with understanding.

No 50 % of its dropped with each advancement of science it self. even this century quantum and space science is ready to discard many statements of science. coz quantum will change complete scenerio. even the finding of world's dimension will make many changes in space and time science. but more or less the line is already laid coz of accessing on one belief it went on testing and quest of the matters lead human to find answers or esteblish views...

science always ahead coz the base is given to science to test the base. that is science of the base. may it be human psychology may it physics, chemistry or biology, the tools developed to check properly and with that tools that base and other related beliefs either esteblished or discarded and new sub-stream opened from that tool.

Even psychology too is now part of science later supernormal activities too will become part of narmal science.

What the conscious feel the subjects laid and scienc is grown on it and the matter becomes part of science.

oops its para-normal or supernatural acitvities...

To me it is embracing everything about yourself. Embracing your culture, ancestors everything about yourself. Nobody should judge based on one thing because everyone is different in their own special way.

I have been judged my entire life for different things and it is unfair that people judge me and anyone in general for something that many people have and believe in misconceptions. Most if not all the time it is out of ignorance,misunderstanding and believing in the misconceptions.

Thats as far as i'm going to go because if i dont stop then i'll go on a rant and thats not a good thing for me to do on a topic like this.

Once in class a teacher said that our true self is divided in 4 parts. What we know and show. What we know and hide. What we do not know and show. What we do not know and do not show.

Another teacher said that our true self is influenced by others, how we behave towards others and our up bringing.

I think you can't really know.

Your self it is developed and evolved (as in mind and personality, meaning you mature or change) through your life and you might die and still not know your true self.

I think that your true self is what you think it is, but then if others see you in a different manner, would that mean that you or them is wrong?

Or it would mean that my first teacher was right?

Or all are connected?

Wow, well I have to disagree on the part that we cannot touch or feel etc. our Soul. I have always felt that your true self is just that being real to yourself on every level possible. I feel your soul, mind and body work in unison to make you who you are, your true self.

many do not know their true self because they have followed or done things to or for others to make them happy and not ones-self. That is NOT being true to you own natural being and how you feel.

I mena I have always just said it as it was and not sugar coat, yet be tactful about what I say or do, but always true to myself as to what I think, believe, have an opinion etc.

I think your True Self is everything that makes you whom you are.

I don't do things for others I do them for myself.

I know what my personality is and my opinions, but would that mean I know my true self?

My true self would be my mind. It is mine and mine alone. I share only if I want to.

Find what your true will is in this life and follow your true path. Be a free thinker and think for yourself, and know yourself and your true will in life and fulfil your destiny.

Funny thing, if one wishes to see their true selves, they should cop a buzz on alchohol and see how they act. Let their inhibitions take over. Taboo, I know.. But, hey.

That was ment to be a facetious remark, by the by.

As far as I`m concerned, true self is the most complex bond between conscious and subconscious. It is both the cause and consequence of what one does and of what one desires. it is influenceable, of course, by external factors. But true self is what drives us.

The true self is the combination of the physical body, the mind,the spirit and the soul. All 4, represent an Individual as a whole. You can not have one without the others.

I thought the spirit=soul, I don't know just saying...

Yet again sound interesting the Christian notion of the Trinity, how can we be all three in one sense: in body, spirit and all: omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent (in the christian case: Christ in body, the Holy Spirit, and the God).

Well astral traveller do find the gross spirit is = consciousness in the body of aura or energies...

its again mind boggling.

coz Christ in Body = True self of Christ in body

Christ a spirit = Christ as very powerful consciousness + fog of aura or energies

Christ God = Consciousness able to touch the consciousness of others and the most powerful consciousness can force or attach or influence other conscious and it is very highabe to touch others conscious and at causal subtle too. Christ's Conscious you can say so and such Consciousness can use the energies of the cosmos when it wish to makes it for the layer and can effect the elements to work its own way. yes in deep ancient scripts or lessons it is shown that conscious is able to make elements work its way.

Well if true self is soul, then what the soul should be...

and all other posts too have nice opinions... they though are new to me but useful in personality making in materialistic life...

you are your true self when in your sleep..... the real you awakes and it takes control of you indefinitely.... or your true self could be you in your heart of hearts... although the heart is easily swayed by the poison of the mind...

True self is not that easy. We are all different personalities on different days and when in different moods. Most of us would be very surprised at the various ways we are perceived by others. And each of those perceptions has, at least at it's base, a sense of truth. Admittedly it is a truth filtered through the life experiences and the belief system of the viewer. But sometimes we might listen to those other voices.

Personally I enjoyed Firmament's take on this topic. The "true self" is such a fluid and personal thing, an idea or concept that I don't believe can be really seen properly through any one's eyes but one's own. Even if one's view were to be taken from an organized religion or widely accepted notion it's still going through you're filter of past experiences, current emotions and preconceived ideals.

Well that was a lot of big words. ^.^ I see my own true self as a spirit and body (currently) inseparable, mostly ignorant of what it is or why it should matter. My self is a series of things, knowledge, muscle movement and motivations for the use of both propelled by emotion. Without a reason to continue living people have been known to die, so that continuing to be whole that keeps flesh bound together and lungs drawing breath -- I see that as my true self.

i think it everything roll into one
i mean people has tattoos
other do the arts
other study
other feel sometimes more than they like
i almost for got others play sports
anything n everything makes up
ur true self
but true self i think could be destroy
thats how i feel now
please be kind im new at this
thank you

I know that i am a mixture of many different things from my heritage. I look like i'm Irish and my overall personality is that of Cherokee and Irish depending on my mood of the day. Generally, I am laid back and quiet as well as very easy to get along with.

Its very nice IC...

Yes the personality changes with the moon or mind...

Its nice thing its the resolve which shows its nature through this changing...

I believe I am my true self. There is debate as to the existence of a true self, since there is only one self. I am me. I am who I was meant to be, therefore I am my true self

I accept myself as biochemical reactions. The unique signature of me, is in the way may brain developed, and compensated/adjusted for my environment, and challenges.

the true self is one,the same and all i believe you cannot separate not one particle of your existence if your trying to find your true self as i feel our true self is anything and everything in that which we are.
the quote "as above so be it below" comes to mind.

but say if you reject your ownness on your body... it says the self is different

If i say this my body is not me it is given to me to stay in and behave from body... then body become vehicle...

the prisoner or bonded person do say that what ever you do with the body you can not do to me or can not influence me...

that time what is your true self... coz the body is caged or bonded or tortured against your wishes... especially in the case of soldiers on cross border caught by the enemy nation... that time the body become tool only and not the self... they can kill you but can not influence you...

That fits into disassociation. The persons conditioning is an important part of their id. To preserve the id.. one would abandon (to varying degree) the ego.

"True Self" is what each person makes of it. Im sure each person has their own views on it as I have seen plenty. To me, its just to be me. No smoke, no mirrors.

I would add, No Pretense, A person that functions under pretense is removed from themselves. The farther away they go, the harder it is to "get back" to who they are, they also fail to develop the ego, by being preoccupied with their alter ego. When masks graft to ones face.. the mask is hardest to shed..

I believe our true self is "our experience."

Our destiny is laid out in a timeline that has happened, is happening, and will happen. And we are locked into this existence with no control. Basically we are trapped in a bubble of time forced to live the same existence over and over again for eternity. The only change that takes place during these cycles of time is our physical appearance. The Very first time we cycle we had more of a neanderthal appearance and toward the end of it we will have more of a "grey alien" appearance. The past, present, and future exist at the same time.

I feel that one's "true self" is an ever growing entity, as the body, mind, and spirit grow and mature the "true self" grows with it. It in turn changes and evolves to encompass the knowledge gained through this growth. If the "true self" did not grow with us it would become stagnant and slowly wither and die.

Those that present pretense (mask) become known as that mask, even if the wearer finds it important to recover their ego they will be isolated from those who developed socially with the alter ego. Pathologic liers, being a prime case of How-far-into-a-charade one can be.

I understand that...

if that left aside then how can one find the true self...

Then how the person can be pathetic lier... that person already left ego behind for a while... using conscious... or lowering the self...

An interesting thread.. that I found irritating beyond belief.

it's all belief.. theory.. conjecture.

well, I wear an Ankh.

I believe in One, The One.. Us. IT. Part of that which have me as a part of it.. and, how's that for statiing it far more simply??

That's ,, just .. my belief.

My true self...

Well I view true self as your soul or at least that little voice in your head. What you do in your life decides how your after life will be. Moving on, your true self lies beneith the skin telling you what to do and making those last minute decisions for you.

My true self has been obvious to anyone that knows me for at least 2 years. Although there is always a part of you that hides in fear of reject no matter who you are, there is the person you know as yourself.

So my true self as I see it is my personality. The endless list of words I could come up with to discribe myself is not important. What is important is that I understand how I act and feel is just apart of who I am and to deny myself or anyone else of knowing the real me is a real crime.

i believe its spirit and mind

Wowww You are placing the idea of one union of souls and becoming the part of it by meaning us... the union of consciousness and becoming the part of universal consciousness that we are... true self a part of an individual...

yes souls too are treated the true self... how to define the soul... it is the awareness of we are something self and this awareness uses the eternal energy and that is the becoming of soul...

Both three posts are very beautifully thought...

My true self is many things. I have been down a road that not many if any my age has traveled. My true self is unique to everyone else because i am myself. I am a person that is different than everyone else.


In essence, to be ones true self you have to find out who you are, accept that, be yourself and not let anyone get you down. Nobody can change who you are but you.

How we act every day defines our true self and it is ever changing. No one remains the same because we are a product of our enviroment. Through interaction we make new choices consciously and unconsciously, second by second, ever evolving to our new true self.

I am many things, however no matter what side of me you look at i am me and there is noone like me and that is what i like best

it can be rightly said, that none of us are like another..

..yet, that brings forth another idea.. dopplegangers.

I remember when as a toddler.. I was aware.. it was in the envorornment that reacted to my interaction.. I can remember my first presence. Myself, in content. So to say.. we are "soul", is comforting to some.. to others it is less "soul" and more Id.. ego.. concious.. psyke.. The harder we make it for others to interact with our "true self" the more we dim that light..

Me i Am a human shell. THat has accumulated over the years and down the generations. The shell holds knowledge and any gifts one may have collected for there time or times they have been here, me not my first rodeo and not my last i don't think.

This is an interesting question that wanders the minds of those who don't know what is on the other side.
The answer to this question will be received when you step through the final door and... discover if you had a soul or not, if you were the sum of your body and soul or just a conglomerate of cells that at some point were just star-dust.
Personally I hope that there is more than this frail body and my true self is the one that feels and commands my fingers to write those words, my true self is the one who will leave this body when the time comes, keeping some residue of what it was at some point just to help IT improve to a better being, whatever form that being will be.

For me a persons true self is the person that they are totally comfprtable being. once someone finds their true self they no longer rely on the judgements of others as they have learned to find the awnsers the seek by looking within themselves.

There are many good posts made in this topic. Many good views, ideas, and perceptions of True Self.

...and no "Firmament", soul does not equal spirit. The body is Physical, the Soul is then the energy body of emotions that resides in the body, and then the Spirit is a ball of light that resides in the head area which is YOU beyond the flesh. Just as it is possible to step outside of the body with the energy body, it is also possible to step outside of the energy body as only a ball of light, The Spirit. (I speak from actual experience)

Back to the topic...

For me, True Self is what everyone is disconnected from. As time happens all at once, it is our True Self that decides our actions in a dream state before we get to experience them and act on them. So if people were actually connected to their True Self, then they would be connected to everyone and everything. They would feel what others feel. They would know things before they happen. As long as we remain in the flesh, we will always be split into two, never fully connected to the consciousness that we are and trapped in the flesh that never fully lets us be whole.

When you lay down to sleep and tell yourself you need to be awake at a certain time, then just get up on your own at that exact minute with no alarm clock, this is you making contact with your True Self on a very subtle level. You can go much further with this, but always limited by the flesh in some way.

Other views regarding True Self are correct also, this is just my view of it from beyond the flesh while among the living.

Selective? Do you subscribe to solipsism?

Interesting, I never heard of that word before.

Solipsism is the philosophical idea that one's own mind is all that exists.

Of course there were many other definitions of this that popped up on the net so not sure exactly which one is correct.

I would disagree with Solipsism, from my own personal research, Solipsism appears to be a view held from a lack of knowledge.

Example 1: I know the ball of light, our spirit that resides where our minds are, is the true source of our information and can exist in a bodiless form long after the body and mind are dead and gone.

Example 2: I know that our thoughts create our realities, but also influence and effect the realities of others and our own and we are not the only ones.

These two findings from my own research would prove Solipsism to be most likely false.

Very Interesting reading material.
I have to agree, we are always changing, adapting, evolving, that is what makes us indifferent, so does a human have a true self, or just in doubt of ones self?

There was a time when I was contemplating who I was and what I would become. I kept asking myself what is my true self? My animal guide is a fox, and one night when I was dreaming the fox came to me and showed me a wolf. When I saw the wolf I realized that was me, I was starring at my own soul. This dream had a profound effect on how I see myself, and helped me to discover my true self, which is Lycan.

My own opinion is that our spiritual selves are our true selves and our bodies are how we manifest into physical realm.

For me, it would be my spirit.
My body is too young when the two are compared.

i think i could say my 'true self' is the Id. its the part of me with basic desires and is self-serving although nurture/nature, society, and conscience/morals etc dictate my actions

You know when you've found your true self when you find yourself happy and content with who you are and no longer desire to be anything else... many people try too hard to be something they are not... when that happens you always feel the need to do more and more to make of for the lack of being that thing you wanna be.

Yep...kinda like when ppl start a lie they gotta keep going and telling more lies to keep it going.

Your true self is the person you are without trying to be somebody else. I would rather be hated for being the real me, than be loved for someone I am not.

Great topic Venum and I hope you find yourself soon.

Thyself is always changing and progressing with each passing moment so there is no true being but your spirit within

I guess I would agree with sexy your true self is who you are everyday and not who you pretend to be for me my true self is everything my soul,body,mind and everything else that comes with it. i dont see why anyone would try to be something there not ..You should always be true to your self before anyone else I say this because if you can't be true to your self how you gonna be true to anyone

i would have to say curently i have not found my complete true self

for now i think i just find bits and pieces of my true self that tends to be kind of like a puzzle

in general i always thought the true self came from emotion of oneself

i think memmories are made up of emotion and perhaps it is the memmories that we make that are our true self but who really knows.

What do you mean by true self? And can there be a false self??

Actually I beleive that everything about one is part of their true selves. I mean you cna pick one part but in the end it all equils you.

Exactly. My true self, I believe, would be loud, obnoxious, silly, good sense of humor, compassionate, empathic (not the psychic sense, the literal meaning of the word), athletic, supportive, pretty, intelligent and umm yeah. That's me. :)

My true self is the one that articulates all my points and walks the walk I do. A kingly, sometimes brash stride, but full of confidence and humility shown whence required.

i believe our true self is the sum total mind body soul..etc because with out just one piece of the equation we would be but a shadow of our true selves

Your true self must be measured against all that is.
Thus here on Earth you maybe a wealthy power.
In the scheme of things you are all but maggots seeking the Higher self or Sunshine in order you may chrysalsis.
Realistically, unfortunately you remain but a maggot.
Bows and Vanishes.

hmm maggot huh? how would that be correct to say measured against all that is..roughly who we are is a product of our lives enviroment expieriences knowledge emotions and even going with the theory that all is connected something that you dont know about and have never experienced could not possibly shape your true self

our true self is a mix of our genetics (more important than previously believed), our upbringing, our general knowledge, and that "x" factor...our spirit (define it how you will).

so the physical and the spiritual combined make the true "us"

~W~

I was raised in the upper class and now im in the low class, poor as a boar. So I dunno. I also have an education. I could get any job I want, but I'm afraid to apply. I have seven assault charges. 4 simple, 1 atrocious, 1 inflicting serious injury and one aggravated. Who would hire someone like that??

Oh yeah.. make that 8. I forgot about my most recent charge of assault and battery that I'm sitting on a 36-mo. probation for. I've heard of convicted murderers, people who have committed manslaughter getting jobs, but I can't because of assault charges??? What's wrong with the world these days. I guess because I am being my true self by not lying on my application it gets thrown to the side!

Matter can not be destroyed nor created.

I would think the same would go for souls and chi, you're true self is always changing with who you are in one life time, one life time you might have been a murderer, then the next a saint, in doing that you're true self {i.e. soul/chi} would have changed. I am right now studying how to manage your chi, and what the different colors our. From what I know my chi is chaos, total and utter chaos with my inner two layers being orange and red. I believe that that is a part of who you're true self might be.

When I dream sometimes what I look like is not what my real life might be, like mostly, I have long flame red hair, my eyes are the same but my skin is, tan, sun kissed almost. But yea its mostly what has gone on in you're past lives and who you are now.


{its what I think you never know I could be wrong or right meh}

I think you have to include all levels of an individual, physical, mental and spiritual as you true self. Why would you leave any part out? If you feel youself a warrior in one area, why wouldn't you train as a warrior in all areas? It is easy to train the physical, all it takes is desire and discipline. It is harder to train the mental and much harder to train the spiritual. Yet, much is available to us to help us train in each area.

If you want to incline into metaphysics and theoretical physics, Higher self is the true self in which all souls resides under "a guiding experience", in order to understand awareness you must have/had went over a serial of experiences in which lets you understand the lower densities in order to understand the current one. It is like trying to make a monkey do things humans do, when monkeys are programmed under a limitation of awareness which involve primitive mechanizations in the evolutive path of gradually acquiring the means to become the next promising 4th dimensional being, the best a monkey can do is adapt to the ways you limit their freedom by creating the perception of acquiring the survival by mimicking whatever the human wants the monkey to do (domination under influential confinement), the same way nature limits a human in how to raise the awareness state by creating the pressures in the evolutive path inside that density of experience.

We as humans experiencing this 3rd dimensional excuse for reality experience life with the limitations our natural barriers permits us to experience. Which we consciously experience 4th dimensionally but since we were genetically manipulated out of a 3rd with the genes of 4th our experience here are more dense than what it should've be (That is why it is seamed as a "prison planet"). We can sense/measure the fabric in which we perceive time/space due to natural parameters such as (sun, universe, gravity, etc) and have reasoning capabilities of a 4th dimensional being; meaning we just don't see 3d and live on a awareness state of 3d which constitute where animals are at in perceptional, but we cannot influence or send out thoughts to another person under the limitations of this body and planet, It has a lot to do with DNA and a planet not programed for 4th dimensional manifestations by our "vibration"(density in which the DNA vessel resides under the creation fabric).

Now our true selves is nothing but a part from the higher self compartmentalized into an incarnation in order to acquire the needs of evolving the awareness state. I see it as we all were all in/the source-God-One: created/creator/creation, some/all tried to separate from that experience into a singular limitation- I call it- the desire to venture, so in order to do that you have to send yourself (spirit) into virtual realities of experiences, where things are manifested as a learning process, in order for this to occur we do not just fade from one place and appear in the "here-now"; there is a separation of the soul occurring in the original template, where the "higher self" meaning yourself in the highest awareness state is guiding intuitively yourself down here in the illusion-reality of this experience, things are designed for the experience but only you choose your evolution of awareness state (free will); some call this higher self help :"following one's heart, inner-voice". The incarnated soul has the free will to react to certain predestined events in a manner as a progression/regression in the evolution of the soul.

So in essence this experience is a test of raising awareness into what is the most rational way to interact on a incarnation with the limitations and perceptions placed on the vessel (beliefs, social interaction, natural interaction, genes, external influences, behavior towards others, behavior towards yourself, etc..) The way to process them is the way one confine themselves into which ever they wish to take on a pre-determined experience/event.

Now the higher self sits on the original template, but the soul is sent into incarnations for the evolution of whichever side you wish to experience and expand the awareness. That means climbing up the ladder again from no awareness to the highest and most angelic form of understanding positive and negative and thereof creating the same environments and experience for other less aware beings. The balance in nature is that chain of events designed in such way that you could only access it through higher awareness.

Also, there is such thing as all of our higher selfs merging, so in essence Higher self is like referring to God which is yourself, all the people here/out there and myself as well. So if I were to say what is our true self then Again it would be placing a limiting point of view. In this current vessel I could only understand this through cognitive science, psychology, philosophy, theoretical physics, quantum physics, a naturalist rationalist with a slight of spiritualist window and other means to acquire the information, but that as far as this current experience could be narrowed in perception due to our limitations to raise the awareness higher than that possible without going more insane than what is currently hard to follow.

A interesting article mixing this sciences:
http://www-physics.lbl.gov/~stapp/PTRS.pdf

Ones true self can only be calculated once you have annualized every aspect about yourself. The good and the bad. All of your angels and demons, must be sot through and delt with.

A lot of times it is not easy to face your self dead on in the mirror, but in my opinion it is better to die with the truth then live with a lie.

And the sooner one comes to know and accept there true self the sooner there spirit will become more at ease.

our true self is what we let only an elite few poeple see, only those who are able to look in your eyes or read in between the lines, those you allow, the rest is just dust in the eyes to do like some magician do: illusion and tricks to hide the truth.

at least that is what I think, then again you are in title to your opinion just I like I am in title to mine ^^

That is true ;)

I thought it was something to do with your inner conscouisness and higher self.

Be yourself and follow your true path in life. Find your true will in this life, and fulfil your destiny. If you have specific goals that you want to archive in your life, then go for it, just be honest and be yourself, be proud of who you are. Just think deep within your mind, and find your true path and hold onto it. You have the freedom to be yourself, and follow your own beleifs and to think freely, and be who you want to be in life.

what if you feel your true path is that of a school teacher or some other professional that looks deeply into ones personal life? do you just damn the torpedoes?

or do you wear a mask? i wear a mask (metaphorically speaking) most of the time.

~W~

You must seek the guidance from within. When you have adequate time to, sit or lie down and clear your mind. Say to yourself, "Take me to my true nature." If it helps any, visualize a mirror for a clearer image of who and what you are.

Your true self is that which is in side of you. It is that part that most try to fight and hide.

its just sad when you can't reveal your true self

really that is sad... but to a point.... some people have very annoying or negative traits... that I will agree, people must learn to control.... you can't blame yout "true self" on the fact that you are just a horrid person... I think everyone to a point has hidden these negative traits for the sake of another person... but I feel it's what we should do. Sometimes it's not all about how we feel or how we do things, but others as well... So hiding, to a point, is only natural.

My true self is a mixture of my background, influences, relationships, connections, ideals, thoughts, intergrations and experiences.