
Sounds like a lot of fun. So being that it is based on the most favor earned per society, is it being split ? Covens against covens and houses against houses ?
ill be honest...ive never gotten the favor thing, and whenever ive asked what it means or how one gets it, ive never had an answer.
so...what is a favor race anyway?
~W~
It's called use the Request Help, LordWolf.
1 favor for 25 pages viewed.
1 favor for 15 minutes spent on VR.
i did that....not long after i first joined. the answer to my question about what the favor stamps were all about and how to get favor was as follows.
if you ask about favor, you wont ever get any.
it was a great help.
i learned to just keep my mouth shut, watch and learn. i really do hate asking on here especially....
its always good for rude comments.
~W~
*imagesinwords edit* You shouldn't be getting rude comments from this staff. I can help you with any questions you might have- although I am not a part of this contest and can't give you any details. It doesn't look like any contest details are being given at this time, only a request for societies to be a part of it. I can see you were asking about a 'favor race', and not, 'what is a favor'. As for this race, we do need some clarification. I'll assume which society earns the most favor in a certain amount of time.
I am not being rude far from it
But the summer people are out doing more.
Winter would be perfect for this especially
if we have a terrible winter as last year.
Then again maybe people stay inside more because of the heat.
Maybe I am only speaking for myself.
Here are some more contest details straight from my journal:

Mizz Rae..
The favor race starts on Aug. 15th.
LadyDarkRayne...
It is not being split, no. However, I do understand that some covens have only 8 members and other's have 50. It will be the top 5 earners of each coven that makes it for each coven/house. For example.. (I'll use my coven (Sexy's) as an example:
Rellik earns 315
AngelofNite earns 305
Sexy earns 295
MalkavianPrincessAngel earns 260
Weeping Lily earns 289
These are the top 5 earners. So I would add up their total favor earned..
315
305
295
260
+289
______
1464
Then I would take 1464 and divide it by 5 to get the avg favor score.
1464/5= 292.8
So The coven of The chaotic Angels would have a final favor score of 292.8!
The coven with the biggest final score is the winner. The formula I am using is the formula designed to get the average number. And who said we would never need Math class?? LOL!
I want to be the underdog,LOL
Count the Coven of Mercury's Lair in on this contest.
XD
You were the 13th coven added to the list! *plays twilight Zone music in the background* hehe
Ok so which covens have offically joined???? Immortal was talking about it but I wasnt sure.......MEH
I have put it to a vote for my Coven :)
CrimsonShadowWolf is the Mistress at the moment but all Coven decisions come from me
I will get back to you soon ^^
I will ask my coven if they wish to participate. Question do we choose the top 5 members who will have their favours recorded?
Reminds me of the old "Dog Fights" back in the old days. It will be good to see this type of event back in VR.
Yes that is a good point, are you and your staff going to chose the 5 members or do we get to select the 5 we want to use in the contest.
This is going to be awesome Sexy, it seems you have hit upon a great idea.
Keep up the good work Hun.
[ Listens to Twilight Zone music in background,LOL]
And I am sooooooooo happy we were the 13th Coven to sign up.
It is an Honor to be number 13, and this alone should increase our odds, LOL
:P
Hugs
I have already signed up and been accepted for a staff position :)
From what she had told me in the message we have been writing I believe you can pick your top five.
Please do correct me if I am wrong though :)
Three out of five of my top members have already said yes so The Coven Of Midnight Shadows is in :)
great idea, our coven is starting out and doesnt have many very active members hopefully next yr if this continues
To answer your question, BubbleGum..
For the list of Covens that are already signed up and all new pertinent information, please see my journal. Every time a new coven signs up, they get added to the list of covens that are already listed in my journal :)
Ok sounds good Sexy can you sign up Ancient Egyptian Mysteries please :)

I love the graphics...
But am guessing many more would join in for a set of real gold fangs...now thats a prize worth fighting over.
Perhaps at Xmas eh.LOL!
Thank you :)
That banner is for anyone who wants to use it. It was made by LadyBloodMoon... my creative mastermind :)
Oh yeah!! Almost forgot to mention...
The coven of Kabbalah has decided to partake in the races! :)
I believe that my coven (the Coven of the Forbidden Fruit) is in.
That's right - be afraid.....be very afraid..
MWAHAHAHAHHA.... *cough*
I am curious as to how you will do with the houses and covens? will you separate them out and do one for the houses and one for the covens or will the favor be figured the same for both of them?
I have poll'd our coven to see if they wish to participate, I hope they do as this looks fantastic BloodRooted is our Coven Master
LBN
ACM of Vampyric Bloodlines
He heee... Kabbalah is in: best give up and go home.
Nothing like a bit of psychic warfare.Bows and vanishes.
So is Ancient Egyptian Mysteries. They got Rogue and Risque... big favor earners.
But the coven you gotta watch out for is chaotic angels. That's the coven I'm in :D hehe
And I earn a LOTTT of favor!! Ask anyone in In Visible Light or chaotic angels! lol
Look's like the pressure's on!!!
And hope you guys decide to join Vampyric Bloodlines! Diabolus Templum is also doing a poll. So far it is going in our favor :)
Thanks Sexy for answering my question. Though no need to say sorry.
Yes, some of us are looking to add Umbrae Octo to the favor race but we have not decided for sure yet. One of us or Nightgame will let you know for sure. :)
Shadowed Angels is not entering because of something else we're doing, but Vampyric Bloodlines is in.
None so far. Umbrae Octo is taking a vote though, so they may be signing up.
The members of House Umbrae Octo have asked to join this game so please add us to your list.
Whooooo Hoooooo.....
This is awesome.
Thanks Sexy for putting this all together.
Sexy, I must say this is awesome for VR!!! While my Coven, Shadowed Angels, is not entering, my other profile is in a Coven that has entered (Burning Flames), so I can still participate!!!! :)
Good Luck to all participants!!
I have a question...What if the individual favor earner who wins already has a premium membership? Are they going to be allowed to gift their prize (the 6 month premium membership) to another member of their choosing? I believe that is how it usually works in Cancer's contests and just wondering if it would apply here too.
K awesome, thanks.....Diabolus Templum still has our poll going but so far it looks like we will be participating.
Is anyone else participating or thinking about participating, please let us know!
Sexy
Just letting you know but not sure if it makes a difference but my coven Vampyric Bloodlines (Coven) has changed its name to Dragon Kings And Dying Queens (Coven)
Cheers
LBN
??? that was not my post v.v
My friend uses the same computer and posted on my account
Her name is ShiaTheSorceress. She would like her coven to be added please. I know mine is
A favour race...hmm looks like this could be good fun if people have the time.
So for those that have volunterred their time are you going to assign each of them a society or are they going to pick what society they want to represent ?
You get to pick! :) The following ones are taken or I already have their names:
Dragon Kings and Dying Queens
DiabolusTemplum
Midnight Shadows
chaotic angels
Zodiak
anyone else is fair game! :)
TheSeeker.. who is your coven master? What coven are you in sweetie?
Sexy count me in to help during the evenings weekends and when I can during the rest of the day since started a training program last week which means on Mondays, Tuesday and Thursday will be there from 1 to 4 Wednesday and Fridays in the mornings
Hope can get new cord for laptop
just message me or leave message in thread
hugs
fingers are crossed hun
hopefully can till you receive the new cord
Atrum Templums members are
Myself
Dabbler
MeanMeanMrTu
AzriellaRipley
TheDarkx
I'm wondering the same dang thing.
*pouts* It's horrid not knowing at this point cause I have homework and stuff to be doing! Ugh!
To let Sexy or whoever is tallying Diabolus Templum's favor...ElizabethRose has changed her name to GoddessOfChaos.
Thanks.
Well as of yet, no one seems to know if the contest has officially started or not... Sexy said that she would say what time it started, yet noone has heard anything
i am confused!!! Someone must know if it has started!!!!!
I don't think it has. Sexy was last on last night around 10:30 pm my time. So since she's the one sounding the kickoff of this thing... I think it is safe to say it hasn't started yet but don't quote me on it.
*shrugs* I'm just going about my business for the most part. LOL! I wish it would be a go though. I was looking forward to it!
The favor is will start tomorrow sexy has been having pc problems i will be getting all info gathered good luck to all if you haven't sent names plz send them to me thank you
WOOOOOO!
Tomorrow is the official first day of favor whoring...
Lets get our whore on!!!!
Aren't we supposed to be favor whoring already????? Oh wait never mind, right now we are just favor sluts... After the race someone will be a favor whore, the rest of us will still be favor sluts... Oh well... at least someone will move up in favor sexual status...lol
alrighty then! Tomorrow it is ON! Everyone be safe! this favor whoring is a dangerous job! LOL
Yay for favor whores!! Oh wait..I'm a favor whore...DOUBLE YAY!!
here is the list of Covens i dont have names for
The Coven of The Whispering Forest
The Coven of Mystical Blood Moon
Assassin's Guild (Coven)
The Coven of Burning Flames
The Coven of Darkened Forest
The Coven of Hrodwulf
The Council of Witches (Coven)
Mercury's Lair (Coven)
The Coven of Caduceus
The Coven of Lux Aeterna
The Coven of Kabbalah
The Coven of Mystical Darkness..
The Race will be starting at 11:00AM EST today ..Good luck to all
But I sent my list to you last night.
Anyway, here's the list again just in case it got deleted or something.
Coven of Darkened Forest:
DireConsequences
XxNephthysxX
Fyre
ebenezer
AWhisperOfHope
That way anyone involved knows who is doing this in my society.
=)
Dragon Kings And Dying Queens:
xNatifahx
LordBaalNox
CinnamonSpider
LadyLilac
BloodDemon
The Coven of Midnight Shadows:
DefiantxXxAngel
CrimsonShadowWolf
deathawaits666
AliceSwan
GothKitten (or Gingerrose88)
Diabolus Templum (Coven):
ElizabethRose
GodOfChaos
LoverAvenged
DeMonic
FiliaOfAbyssus
The Coven of In Visible Light:
DarkSinAngel
Rawr
xAiyanax
DiamondDragon
OrionPax
The Coven of the Chaotic Angels:
Sexy
Rellik
AngelofNite
AramantheMorganthe
WeepingLily
The Coven of Pirates:
Morbidangels15
jane21
bloodiashes
Trep
trepidation
The Coven of Immortal Blood:
heartofstonecold
Breetfire
vampiress31
venumstings
SamaelAmon
The House of Umbrae Octo:
NoctusAngelusProcella
Spiritwalker
RedQueen
xxEmaeraldxx
Nightgame
The Coven of The Zodiak:
GoddessMoon
AngelofDeath666
Nexus
Raven34gtr
twirlgirl94
The Coven of Ancient Egyptian Mysteries:
Risque
OmegaSupreme
Sippa
Kenjii
Rose
The Council of Witches (Coven):
hellsreaper
deltaro
avatar07
coldasice
lastresort
The Coven of Darkened Forest:
DireConsequences
XxNephthysxX
Fyre
ebenezer
AWhisperOfHope
Atrum Templum (Coven):
LadyDarkRayne
Dabbler
MeanMeanMrTu
AzriellaRipley
TheDarkx
This is the lists that I have so far. If you don't see your Coven on this list, it means that I still need your top 5 favor earners.. I CAN NOT start the race until this list is complete. The following covens still need to send me their top 5:
The Coven of The Whispering Forest
The Coven of Mystical Blood Moon
Assassin's Guild (Coven)
The Coven of Burning Flames
The Coven of Hrodwulf
Mercury's Lair (Coven)
The Coven of Caduceus
The Coven of Lux Aeterna
The Coven of Kabbalah
The Coven of De'Morte
The Coven of The Forbidden Fruit
The Coven of Mystical Darkness
So the contest starts today and goes for two weeks right?
I know my CM has sent our list already.
But here are our top five:
CAJOME
Temptaiton101
ABHORASH
eMetiB226
Tikaani
Yes, girl, you are on the favor table.. that was just a typo on my part :)
to answer your question temptation101 yes starts today for two weeks
For Diabolus Templum (Coven):
ElizabethRose changed her name to xGoddessofChaosx
We sent the msg above, but it still wasn't changed
=]
I saw the post just haven't done the change yet but it has been noted
Okay, I need to know... My fiancee is getting conflicting reports... Goddess is saying that the contest has started and DD is saying that it hasnt.... Before I kill hours on here earning favor, has the freaking contest started????
To answer your question, love...
They both agree that it has!
Woohoo!
=)
Welcome Girl :)
hey... it's been 2 days....
any updates on who has what favor?
I thought you will calculate the media between the 5 cntestants from each Coven.
If so, this lists are irrelevant.
If in a coven just one person earns a lot of favor it may unfair win the contest.
I am the totals you see are from all five members of the coven but i also am keeping track of individual members favors and If im not mistaken so are some of the CM's for their own reasons
Quote from Sexy:
"There will not be separate races for covens and houses as the races are based on the average favor. Otherwise, houses would have an extreme advantage over all the covens.
The formula for calculating the mean, (or averages), is as follows, for those who are unsure:
Arithmetic mean is commonly referred to as an "average". Mean or Average is defined as the sum of all the given elements divided by the total number of elements. The elements in this case is, of course, the favor.
Formula:
Mean = The sum of elements (The top 5 favor earner's favor all added together) divided by the number of elements (5)."
Thank you, GoddessMoon! You do a great job then!
Glad to hear that!
Thanks :)
Im waiting on a few more coven results and will have the table updated soon
Here is where everyone stands as of last night ..here shortly will be posting all members single favors earned in my journal
6768.879 | ||||||
..is it me.. or are some of the numbers on here incorrectly added up...
GM explained this in her journal...the numbers are now averages of your 5 members.
but when the math is done the totals are not averages(mean) of 5 members. its simple subtraction for the totals.. and some of the totals in the 2nd to last column are incorrect. i understand the other numbers are averages but the 2nd to last column numbers dont add up for some covens/houses.
yes/ i tried to do the math both ways and some dont add up
...i am confused now.... hahaha!
too many opinions!!!
hahaha!
lets just let the people running the show run the show.
I doubt they are here to cheat anyone....
I'm sure they will break it down for you... but I do feel it was awesome to get that explanations above me...
=]
it just doesnt add up. theres like a number missing from the front of a few of the covens. im in high school i printed this out and asked my teacher and she was like wow.. umm this is off a little..
there are simply a few numbers missing to make the totals incorrect at the end..
ex: (random number will be used)
starting favor : 2551.254
current favor : 78478.222
favor earned: 5926.968
BUT if looking at it as it sits the numbers wouldnt add but because the starting favor was missing the 7 that is in front of the number... you see my point? one number missing causes confusion.. thats what im getting at. the favors earned are correct but the starting favor is missing one number to make it confusing, and to make it seem like its not adding up..
Ok yes the table above has a few number mistakes and i fixed them in my journal ..second the last column is also average but since everyone is confused about how im doing it Next update will be much more easier for everyone to understand but to explain myself for the last time i hope the first column is the total of all 5 or 4 or 3 members that are racing and divided by 5 ,4 or 3 at the start of the race ,second is the total of favors was earned up to the point of the time i took the numbers and divided the same way and the last set of numbers is the total of what each person earned and divided by 5, 4 or 3 whichever the case is
Let me break this down for you all. It is simple mathematics.
5 people have 5 different scores.
At the very beginning of the race, Person A ALREADY has 500 favor.
At the very beginning of the race, Person B ALREADY has 300 favor.
At the very beginning of the race, Person C ALREADY HAS 200 favor.
At the very beginning of the race, Person D already has 400 favor.
AND
At the very beginning of the race, Person E already has 500 favor.
To calculate the mean:
Person A has 500
Person B has 300
Person C has 200
Person D has 400
+Person E w/ 500
THAT EQUALS 1900
Than, you take the SUM of ALL THOSE NUMBERS and divide it by X amount of people!!
1900 DIVIDED BY 5 is:
380
HOWEVER,.......
THE RACE HAS JUST STARTED>>> SO TOTAL FAVOR EQUALS ZERO!! GET IT???
It has nothing to do with the amount of favor that you started out with. You come into the race with ZERO favor.... otherwise, it would not be fair.
So...
Person A with 500 favor is starting out EQUAL TO, NOT GREATER THAN Person B with 300 favor. So on the chart is Person A with 500 and Person B with 300.
One week later:
Person A accrued 26 favor. Person B accrued 96 favor. NOW... EVEN THOUGH PERSON A STILL HAS MORE TOTAL FAVOR, Person B is STILL IN THE LEAD because he EARNED MORE FAVOR DURING THE RACE AND NOT BEFORE.
THIS RACE DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE FAVOR YOU STARTED OUT WITH. It is ONLY for the favor that you EARN DURING the race. SO.....
GM made a few mathematical mistakes... this could easily have been handled with a private message... not saying, oh, I showed this to my teacher which, no offense, I highly doubt.
This is how this is to be handled from now on so that there is NO CONFUSION. GM now knows the correct way to add this stuff up, so there should be no more problems. If there are any more problems, send me a private message and I will handle it.
"when the math is done the totals are not averages(mean) of 5 members. its simple subtraction for the totals.. and some of the totals in the 2nd to last column are incorrect. i understand the other numbers are averages but the 2nd to last column numbers dont add up for some covens/houses."
*There is no subtraction in the formula for mathematical mean. It's addition and division.
also... if there are some numerical mistakes, let's just point them out and say... hey,. you forgot a 7 next to Sexy's starting favor... as long as the EARNED favor is correct, there should be no problems you feel me?
I read through the favor race idea and I think that it's a great idea and wish I would of caught it sooner to enter my own coven, hopefully I will be able to next time it's in effect (assuming the "annual" in the title)
However, there's been a few points where some members have replied a tad negative....Can we please keep the fun in it and not turn it into any sour feelings? Thanks :)
*imagesinwords edit* At the same time people are 100% allowed to raise these valid concerns. They should not feel stifled. I don't want people to think they can't speak up if they are confused by this math. Consideration should be given to the members who decided to give this a whirl period. There hasn't been a single person that has 'flown off the handle' at all in their posted questions.
Well, a thank you to her and everyone helping in setting this up, and I do hope it goes well for all....Happy favor raising!
Oh Ok, at least the points are sorted out...so our masters might know our correct positions...
Is it just me or do deities with IQ's beyond our imagination laugh about that sort of thing?
Slaps his wrist and Giggles.
Well if you read the first explanation Sexy gave to everyone... it seems she is doing exactly that...
What I got out of it... she is doing this
THE MEMBER'S BEGINING FAVOR:
MEMBER 1 = 1000
MEMBER 2 = 1000
MEMBER 3 = 1000
MEMBER 4 = 1000
MEMBER 5 = 1000
SUM=5000
THE MEMBERS ENDING FAVOR:
MEMBER 1 = 1500
MEMBER 2 = 1500
MEMBER 3 = 1500
MEMBER 4 = 1500
MEMBER 5 = 1500
SUM=7500
THEY ARE DOING THIS:
7500 - 5000 = 2500
2500/5= 500
AVERAGE FAVOR EARNED= 500
Is this how it's being done?
Cuz thats what I'm getting out of it.
I don't get what the debate it....
it looks like there was just some bad math...
nothing more... not that the way they are DOING
the math is wrong... it was just a simple mistake.
well if that is their only concern... some numbers were off... GM explained what happened and said all corrections have been made in her Journal...
So they have gotten fixed... but people INSIST to question their means of coming up with the average... that is what is being argued by some... if you read some of the posts... some are CLEARLY questioning the math involved... and it's gotten to be annoying. Send A PM for that, I think.
Is it safe to assume that you guys got the individual starting favor totals for people? I would hope we didn't have to submit them ourselves, because I just revved up and got started...lol
Yes Red .. I got most of them myself with some help from a few people
Ok now i did admit to making some mistakes anyone could have. think about it there are 21 covens in this and only one person putting the info in there is bound to be some mistakes .
The new table is going to be different and If anyone has a problem this time would be nice to get a Private message about it ..This race is suppose to be fun for all ,granted this is first time and their is gonna be some bugs in it but calm down plz and another thing people didn't understand is not all covens have 5 members and some of the racers didn't make any favors at the time i recorded the numbers
Thank you im really trying to make it fun for all the best i can
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If there is a question, post it - but the answers should come from the people running the contest alone. When others chime in regarding the questions, answering it when they aren't part of the judging team... the thread is full of posts that just end up closing it due to length.
Questions were asked and anwers were given. Simple as that.
My laptop broke the day before the contest started. GM did me a huge favor by taking over for me. If anyone has a problem with the way the contest is being run, please message me. I haven't received a single private message. Everyone knows the laptop situation. So why wouldn't they send me a PM, knowing full well that I can't get on to go to forums. I don't have much time on here. 30 mins a day is what I'm averaging. If I have to, I will print the chart out and look at it myself. However, the chart has been fixed and is in GM's journal.
Again, the current fixed chart is in GM's journal. Go there to see the information. Not here.
Like she said, this is supposed to be for fun, and if anyone tries to make it anything less than that, maybe they shouldn't have signed up.
We worked very hard on this for the past month. Just make it fun for yourselves. There's nothing worse than a sore loser. So let's try and put all this CRAP behind us because if it keeps up, I'm cancelling the entire thing.