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I have been a member here for several years now and in my conversations with new friends or new members I find a common statement, thought or feeling being told over and over again.

When I ask about people's experiences on VR they generally say (not everyone but in general), I can be myself here. Or I can express myself in ways I normally can't. Or there are so many like minded people I feel at home.

So my question to my fellow VR patrons is:

What do you hide from everyone in the world but you feel you can reveal here in the world of Vampire Rave?

If you don't hide anything fair enough but this is for those who feel they can't express who they truly are in the real world but can here on VR.

For those who can answer the question please feel free to cure my inquisitive nature :)

Well I live in back woods Alabama where if I came out of the closet about being who I am, 1. People would try to take my kids away, and 2. I would become an outcast... So it's best for me just to keep it to myself for now...

what dont i hide?
lol

my nature, my beliefs, my feelings on sexuality, my loves...
you know, little things
lol

~W~

I mean Rogue I even kept it from my husband until about 3 months ago, and we had been together for about 3 and a half years... He totally flipped out on me... But he is more accepting of it now...

I live in a really repressed area where when I started doing a goth thing at school i was literally the only one. People didn't get it for months they though I was in morning lol.
This place gave me an outlet for the part of me that loved the darker subcultures. I've become more comfortible with myself and no longer only express myself here but this place was a great starting point a way to express myself in a safe place without fear of being called a freak.

I've only shared with a few people some experiences i've been going through in my family which would be only 2 people. My mom and grandmother since they are the closest and have been with me and verified a few things which made ME feel better in the end. It's not something I put out there in front of everyone because majority of the family is religious and would probably not understand things.
I feel that VR is a place where people can open up about themselves more freely to others because so far we have seen many that have and do. It's the only place that I know of where people seem to be more accepting of things and even if people don't agree with everything, it doesn't matter because, there are others here that do and it's a great way to find each other and those that may have something in common where you can't find that so easily in the real world.

i agree with Asura about this. In VR there are so many of us with different beliefs that i think tolerance and acceptance is the norm, whereas in facebook for example there are folk who feel it necessary to point out ones differences or use derogatory statements. Similarly, in real life folk find it necessary to demean or discriminate against those who are in any way different.

VR seems to be one of the few places where its ok to be anything other than 'mainstream'.

I don't hide much... but as people have started before... because many areas are so closed minded and judgmental... it's SAFER for people to keep to themselves.

judgmental people arent just out in the main stream world. it just depends on your beliefs.

if you live in a rural area and you are openly pagan, you may get some trouble. certainly youll get some looks, and whispers.

if you live in an urban area like new york and you were openly fundamentalist christian, you would probably get a similar response.

and even here, if you openly believe in vampires, there are some that will work hard to convert you to their ways, and if you wont agree with them, then they will basically be insulting and patronizing. sad but true.

~W~

LW, well, true i guess, at least up to a point...ive not found there to be more than a handful here who are overly judgemental. i think on the whole, folk here are more tolerant, therefore, personally speaking, its easier to be more open about things :)

I feel I can show my true nature and inner side that most mundayne societies would not understand .

I am generally a very anti-social person because there are no people i wish to hangout with where i live, on VR there are heaps of cool people and i can be a social butterfly if i feel the need :)

I do agree with the majority that there is a higher level of tolerance and acceptance here in VR. I guess it is one of the reasons why people stay or keep coming back.

DeMonic I am fairly anti-social in real life as well. Mostly because I won't be accepted for who I am so I just don't bother associating with people who can't accept me for who I am. :D

And there isn't a society in the world that does not have its level of Judgemental behaviour sighs just part of human nature isn't it. :)

Sites like these many people can say what they please because what are you going to do to them? You dont know them in real life, so they can say how they truely feel without being scared.

As for me where I live is a racist town full of christians. Weird right? You say your christian but your racist against anything non white and who isnt like you. Yes, I am black and I speak my mind freely in this place. The one thing I can't is of religion. If you don't think and speak like them of this, they will beat you up to make you come to God. I almost feel bad for the other religions out here, they keep to themselves. And you here people talk about them all the time.

So yeah, here you can say what you please without a second thought, care, or worry

While I find that while I don't mind telling people around me what I believe in I get tired of hearing how I can be saved. Here I don't really have to worry about it. If I don't believe the way someone else does it isn't a big deal. It is acceptance I find here. We all are different and seem to accept those differences.

I have been told by extended family members who are "Christian" that I will burn in the fiery pits of hell if I don't accept the Lord Jesus Christ as my savior. Of course they also tell me that we are all children of God to which I reply..."Then let him judge me if he created me. He obviously had some plan if he made me think the way I do."

The only people I worry about offending are my parents and they seem to like me the way I am

Yep many Christians will tell you that. But how is it right to do that and judge someone when you are not practicing what you preach as well. How can you be judgemental of a person when your not judgemental of yourself. You say you will burn for not coming to God and living righteously yet you are not living it yourself.

here it doesn't matter what happened to me in the past and if I need to talk to someone about something that is bothering me I can unlike with my family that so far I haven't disowned cause one member was not around when I needed him for the simple reason he didn't live in the same part of the country I did and when he came to visit we were never there or didn't show up like expected cause my ex mother didn't want me or my brother have anything to do with our father and his family and my brother refuses to admit how we really grew up he keeps telling me that I am making it all up

I also don't have to hide the real me a person who is scarred and has beliefs that others don't understand or believe that my beliefs are evil and is the work of the devil or need to be careful I don't hurt someone's feelings for telling them the truth when they ask me to

Another thing I love about this site is the fact that everyone does see things differently. And you can have healthy debates about perceptions. It is hard to have a conversation in the real world when the other person thinks that you are completely wrong and won't even listen to why you believe what you do. I am thankful for a site that allows me to express what I think and defend that without worrying about offending someone I care about.

I respect everyones right to judge another as I reserve the right to judge and often judge myself more then I do others. I never said I would burn, it was what was told to me and I never claimed to be righteous...I am far from it. I live my life the way I do out of respect for my parents. I was taught to respect the ideas of others and to acknowledge them even if I don't believe in it. And if it means biting my tongue around other people and take them saying I will burn in hell because it is their belief, I will do it with a smile on my face. I can't change their mind just like they won't change mine.

And so here I am expressing what I believe and letting you judge what I put on here and dissect it how you choose

My comment wasnt directed at you ... it just people in general lol. But you are right, and that is why in the real world I will not speak about certain things because there are so many closed minded people that will only believe there way and any other way is wrong instead of just saying, well its fine you believe that way but I dont agree with it. Instead they just to lecture and beat you down untill you give in and tell them there right and everyone else is wrong

Well I hate getting into religious debates with religious zealots its pointless and a waste of time.

But the one question that usually floors people is prove to me you and your religion and all its beliefs are right... give me evidence to support what your saying.

Otherwise its all fairy tales and word of mouth beliefs. One of my favourite one liners is: Religion is just an argument over who's imaginary friend is better.

I am with you Amara I do my best to withhold judgements and I never tell anyone what they believe is wrong I have seen first hand how it can really crush someone and how painful it is. After seeing it happen to someone I cared about I vowed that I would never ever tell someone their religious belief is wrong or stupid.

Heck I wouldn't tell a Christian or Muslim they are wrong, only to go back to their holy books and read them again!

"Otherwise its all fairy tales and word of mouth beliefs. One of my favourite one liners is: Religion is just an argument over who's imaginary friend is better."
If one were to show there was something else...how would you cope? most people struggle with religion, mortgages and ordinary life, look at the suicide rates.
Bows and vanishes.

well put amara...
im impressed.


as for the fairy tales and such. i dont see it that way at all.
i do think that there is alot of evidence to support that there are greater beings than ourselves.
one of my arguments for that is the number phi. if you have an interest, look it up, its rather interesting.

i do question belief systems that depend on something that person X was reported to have said to someone else, and then a third person wrote it down. i very much question a belief that is based on a book that has one verse saying be nice to people, then a bit later it says to kill people.

and i do judge any belief system that thinks its ok to sacrifice the lives of children in order to advance a war against another belief.

just my thoughts on the matter
~W~

I find that on here I can be more free with my speech but I wouldn't say I hide anything where I live either. I may not be so free with what I say, my opinions and my subject topics that is only because I am surrounded by others save my family who have no interest in my way of life.

I guess I do not shout nothing from the rooftops or make bold statements by dressing certain ways but I certainly would if I was asked or around others at a party

Well I for one knows that Society is always telling us freedom of this or that , yet,in reality of society they stop and judge you before they ask you to help them to explain and understand the things they do not. I was taught to be who I am yet to respect all walks of life/faiths/religions etc. Here I can actually have discussions and also learn as well as teach ( or enlighten for a better word) to and from others that are as I am . We do not follow the tune of the same piper as Society in a whole does.

I mean they act shocked when someone comes out of the closet for being Gay much less have a different un conventional faith that they choose to live by and believe in. I have hadmany throw the bible up in my face till I spat out scriptures myself to them and they are * Leterally in shock* as if I stepped on their toe because, hey she knows th king james version of the bible OMG! LOL Seriously, society does not want people to change they want us to remain within the general guidelines. yet, we ( majority) here do not do so. We live with our own faith and Beliefs, without the hassle of being different.

Seriously we have members who are lutheran, Morman etc. some would consider them to be having faith in the wrong religion as well as how we are treated. That is Sad they are very well respected religins same as Cathlics, christians and Jews. So no matter what it is you believe in Sociey does judge us all for whatever reason they feel is justified in their own mind and faith. Here we can speak of anything and have discussions and not be ridiculed for being different from the So - Called Norm.

I do not hide that I am learned in many religions and that I actuall practice Wiccan, plus yes I have read and also believe soem of the King James Bible, yet many will say you cannot believe in both. LOL who says I cannot have Faith in what and which and all that I choose to have faith in really. LOL

So I love being here not to mention I have made many friends and met many of them as well, and be myself with them.

That is very true also.

Lets look at a figure everyone knows : Obama
(Whether you like him or not has nothing to do with it because this isnt the thread to say it on)

Yes, he had to hide his beliefs untill there was a big whoopla made.

Did you know he's muslim? Father was Muslim (real and stepfather) and mother was an athiest

Since it is politically expedient to be a Christian when you are seeking political office in the United States, Obama joined the United Church of Christ to help purge any notion that he is still a Muslim.

Now how is that right? He went Christian because we as Americans do not follow our amendments, and we call this the land of the free. For all we know he could be on this site saying he's a vampire and muslim blah blah...

He is not the only one... Tony Blair became a Catholic to get more E.U votes and get his job with government sachs.
It's pretty sad really.

@xRoguex
I am open and excepting to all peoples beliefs, its those people who believe in nothing at all I have a problem with.

What's wrong with believing in nothing?
I have a friend who thinks he can answer everything with science. I've never had an in depth conversation about it with him as far as spirits, ghost, ect.... but as far as God goes and our creation, he tried to tell me its science lol. Thats when I pummeled him with a billion questions which I wouldn't have done if we weren't really good friends.

I am lucky enough to live in a area where being differant is becoming the norm, and I love it. Thank the gods for change!!!!

no Raki, I didn't say belief in science I said believes nothing what soever

Fate I guess that is just another choice that someone has the right to make. Although it would be strange not believing in anything at all... kind of like closing your eyes and pretending nothing exists.

I didn't mean to offend anyone with the fairy tales and imaginary friends comment, that is just me voicing my beliefs lol.

I do my best not to be overly judgemental. I am human therefore I err and there are going to be moments where I will be, an angel I shall never be. So again sorry for the comment :)

For me, it is the ability to express things that are out of the so called norm without worrying about someone looking at you as if you were completely daft. It's just a sad fact that there is a socially acceptable, and a socially unacceptable.

More often than not here in Vampire Rave subjects such as witchcraft, Vampirism, BDSM and the like are brought up all over the place. Topics that in most outset circles are considered to be taboo. Being given the freedom to ask questions, speak of and learn from these topics helps all of us here Im sure to be able to express the things that have crossed our minds, and more often than not act out in our daily lives with no condemnation.

The thing with VR is you can make friends from all walks of life. In reality we wouldnt know 90% of our friends made in here if we cross them in real life. This isnt a bad thing because it enables us to open up more easily. And because we can we can build a friendship and that friendship can be stronger then what a normal everyday life friend will be. If we say something in real life we cannot take it back but in places like VR we can press delete so we dont say the wrong words.

I hide my take on religion (its strange)

I don't talk to anyone about politics thats a good way to make people hate you.

I don't talk to anyone about my moral views.



the internet is so much more freeing.

This is just about the only place where I have ever openly discussed the professional sex research study conducted on me, alone, specifically due to my uniqueness and its direct connection with historical vampirism. After all, where else could such possibly hope to be understood?


- Upir'

it is because here it is more anonymous, it is like just shouting off into space, and then others shout back. It is more detached then in person or on another form of media like tv or radio.

Fateunseen, i have to disagree although i understand what you are saying. Here, there are so many folk who are unusual, or who have beliefs that are unusual, that a high level of acceptance is the norm, no matter what the person is or says.

I for one am happy to have found this place - i can be me here, whereas off VR, i am sombody else altogether

being abnormal, is normal here.

and who decides what is normal? that would the majority.
those who share the most ideas in common have always decided how society is run.

Religion is just an argument over who's imaginary friend is better

hehehe I loved That!!!


I would say that anyone who says you must be saved is in dire need of rescue.

I simply am not a very social person sine I usually prefer to ponder things about the universe privately.

I don't think anyone here would understand my beliefs...well there is a stark difference in believing and knowing...

Pagan is an ancient latin term for knowing and truth...so to be Pagan in itself means not to believe but to know...that makes Paganism not a religion but a lifestyle and a reality.

So...my knowings which even among pagans are immersely bizarre...well I love what I know but others might...even on this site.

But it doesn't make me like this site any less...I love how friendly everyone is.

And though I've been confronted and had some people speak rude unto me...It's a rare occasion and most are open and loving.

And that's why I openly support the Dark Network.

I never hide who I am or what I enjoy. That does not mean that I go parading around about what I do.

There is a difference between being open about who you are in a respectful way and drawing attention to yourself (both positive and negative)

Perhaps it is best to be all things to all men: open yet secretive, loud and yet quiet, foolish and yet wise, humble yet sometimes assertive.
Thus, the observer is never quite sure; I rest my case.

in reality i dont have to hide anything about my lifestyle from my mom or very close friends although most people think your insane when u mention the posiblity of paranormal such as vampires or witches and such and i know it all exists. or when people find out that you partake in blood cermonies. thats really all i hide. but it doesnt take but a min to realize weather or not someone u met for the first time is open minded or not. if they are like you or not..... i can always feel it

I can openly talk about things I've experianced, that would ordinarily rule me "insane" anywhere else. as well as being able to be open about the real me.

Where I live, Goth is consider weird. The city is acceptable when it comes to it, but where I grew up they were not.

I tend to be more myself here because there are people with the same outlook on life, who have the same interests, and just the internet alone allowss me to find people more quickly who share the same views as myself.

But if I was to meet anyone in person who shares the same views, I would be the same way as I am now on VR.

I have to say that I have only recently joined VR and so far I haven't hidden who I am as a person, personality, spiritually or character wise. I have only hidden my identity where I truly live, my true name etc. Only because it has hurt me before in the past. I think it will be the only part of myself that I would hide from any one.

I think it is always a good idea to hide your identity even if you think you know someone its always best to keep some things to yourself. :)

“What do you hide from everyone in the world but you feel you can reveal here in the world of Vampire Rave?”

I don’t tell most of my friends or family that I am on this site, after all they think I’m weird enough anyway with my philosophises on the occult and other topics. Some people on this site are overly judgemental of others and that’s all part of life. I enjoy the different opinions of all the members here whether they are wacky, funny, and educational

I hide the fact that I am on this site.

My main resource on this VR is my journal, the forum and other people's journals. I can talk and discuss and read things that are not readiuly talked about in a social setting, even with my close friends.

It's also a matter of being able to express thoughts and feelings in a place with little to no judgement and explore your feelings and become more self aware.

Mostly I hide the processes of my mind and thoughts. And I hide large parts of myself that I am not even sure of myself. VR is a huge part my self reflection and education. It's a resource that I cannot find anywhere else.