OK I am bringing this back. I had this up the first month I was on VR. Please leave thoughts, and experiences here.~NFA
Astral Projection
Descriptions of ancient astral travels have come from Egypt, India, China, and Tibet. Tibet, people who traveled astrally were called delogs, which means “those who return from beyond.”Astral projection is also called an out of-body-experience (OBE) or soul travel, which occurs when the nonphysical or astral body takes a short trip from the physical body and then returns, Ancients believed that, when traveling, the astral body is connected to the physical body with a silver cord, and that all people on the planet are bound together with silver strands of light. Years ago I actually saw this web, before I read anything about it. Some describe this tapestry of light as a web of silver, and that’s exactly what it looks like. In the Druids traditions, there is an old story about Mog Ruith, a Druid from West Munster, who was able to fly over heads of an opposing army and bring back details of the enemy while wearing a bird costume—an obvious account of astral travel.
What most people don’t realize is that OBEs are, for many individuals, a natural part of the sleep cycle, and that your astral bodyis a regular little traveler throughout the universe and you don’t need a passport (or your conscious mind)to do it! Controlled OBEs (when you are consciously trying to have an OBE experience) are sometimes called remote viewing(also known as bilocation), and our federal government has done a heck of a lot of experimenting on that with a great deal of success.
Although you can plan OBEs, some of our most profound experiences will most likely happen when we aren’t expecting them or trying to make them happen. These events are normally very spiritual and they occur as a part of Spirit’s overall plan to help us reach another level of spirituality, or when it is time for our perception on a particular subject to drastically change. These vivid OBEs are normally full of sharp color and unusually loud sounds---Spirit’s way of making sure we do not forget the experience. Such spontaneous episodes often relate to critical times in our lives when we are under stress or must make an important decision. It is as if Spirit says,”You’ve got this great but little-used tool in your magickal toolbox, and it’s time to use it!” OBEs can also occur when we are sick or when we have experienced a loss. In this case, the OBE helps to create a positive event from which we can gain healing and find the courage to go on.
Many people think that astral projection involves making your astral body get up and move around by conscious direction in the physical world. Although this can happen with practice (for some its easier than others), the range of OBE experiences tells us that OBEs occur with various degreesof consciousness while daydreaming, meditating, sleeping, when your ill, or when you are simply resting after a particularly stressful day. Some OBEs may be extremely dramatic, and others not. Some may appear to take place in the physical world with familiar surroundings, where others will happen in foreign placesand even other worlds! These worlds are called astral planes.
There are few negative side-effects from OBEs, and we should talk about them in case you have any such experiences (or have had them before and didn’t know what they were).Have you ever been half asleep and half awake and your body feels like it is frozen and you have no control over your limbs? Talk about panic! This happened to me all the time when I was a kid, and it occurs because your astral body hasn’t fully connected to the physical one. Sometimes the sensation takes place right before you go to sleep, or when you have been suddenly awakened. You don’t have heart failure,this will pass quickly. Have you ever felt like you have fallen back into your body with the speed of a freight train? That’s another one. For some reason your astral body had been told that it is imperative that it return, and so it does. Normally, if you follow a simple induction procedure when trying for an OBE, you won’t have these experiences, and if they happen naturally, you’ll know exactly what they are. The most common reason for failure in the conscious OBE work is your own fear that somehow if you go, you won’t be able to get back, or something bad might happen to you while you are gone; however, there has never been a recorded instance of either of these things occurring. In several instances it has been proven that a portion of your consciousness does remain behind, that it can tell the difference between friend or foe near your physical body, and that it would rouse you should you be in physical danger. According to Richard Webster, a highly skilled teacher on the subject, you are actually a great deal safer on the astral plane than in the physical one!
You’ll be surprised who and what you meet during an OBE exercise—famous people, mythical animals, angels, loved ones who have gone beyond the veil, and even archetypes (gods and goddesses). I remember my last one and it was a very heartfelt one my grandfather had passed on fourth of July 2002 and I was only 18 then and we had made a promise to one another that before the summer was over that we would go fishing like we always did because I knew his time was running out in this world and it had been a long time since we had gone fishing well a few months ago I was out in the woods up in the White Mountains near Sedona in Arizona and we were camping I went to go to bed and decided to meditate that nite and I fell into an OBE and he came to me and we went fishing and was just bullshiting around smoking and he brought up that he never forgot the promise we both made to each other and he also said that don’t ever believe I never thought of you as my daughter cos you are my daughter and even though you’re my granddaughter I raised you as my own and no one can say different and he was right I was the baby out of all his 12 kids and I was his favorite lol I know cos he said that a lot lol but that made me all like very calm and ok with his passing as I have not been ok since the day he has passed beyond the veil. Ok so if you have any experience or think you have or have any questions or you need to express anything on this subject please post here as I would like to know ~NamastE~
Fine, I'll respond. No, I've never had an out of body experience that I've recognized as such. Though I've also never attempted any of the meditation exercises that assist them. The story with your grandfather is quite touching though, and I'm glad you shared it and the other information you've placed here.
well im not sure i have or not, but ive felt a few times that i have, once when i nearly died in a carwreck and again when my daughter was born and i nearly hemmorraged to death. Theres been times when close friends and family memebers called me to tell me theyve saw or heard me talking to them, warning them of something but if i did i dont remember it.
I'VE HAD PLENTY OF OBEs. NOT FUN!!!! NOT SOMETHING TO PLAY ABOUT. I'VE NEVER WANTED TO GO ANYWHERE IN MY ASTRAL FORM, OR IN ANY FORM AT ALL AND STILL I DO.
THESE UNVOLUNTARY EXPERIENCES ARE TERRYFING FOR ME AND HAPPEN QUITE OFTEN. I NEVER SEE ANY FORM OF LIFE OUT THERE. THERE IS NO TIME ....PERIOD.... SO THERE IS NO LIFE. NO LIVING CREATURE WHATSOEVER. NOT EVEN TREES....
People think I'm fucking crazy when I say I've met Kurt Cobain in a dream..but I have, and I still feel like it was a form of meeting him. It was almost just like one of his songs "man who sold the world"...okay. Enough bragging bitch.
I have actually been in a house that is not in my state, now I am moveing so maybe I will find it.
I have had an OBE when I was in the hospital close to death. I have changed some of my ways but not all of them.
I have many different forms of OBE at will...Once you reach total clarity of mind, and Master the control of your Higher True Self...These things become child's play....
Yeah it's a clencher when I get them, well sometimes anyway. I dunno like when I wake up I am still tired and I want to go back to sleep I can't. For some reason it is really scarey for me. I am used to them ,but sometimes they come way to much.~NFA
The more clarity of mind you can obtain, the more control you will have...You will soon be able to finish out the experience...Not feel so drained afterwards...
but what happens when they start becoming so morbid and violent? I have had disturbing dreams or OBE, whatever you wanna call, in the form of being there, but not actually being there. I have learned to just accept these violent dreams I've had even if they do mess me up a lot when I wake up. I'll be awake for at least 2 or 3 hours before I can actually get past what just happened in my dreams.
I almost did once, but my friends anchored me. I hadn't eaten and was really tired, started feeling weightless, and the next thing i knew i was looking at things from a different perspective. Then my friends grabbed my wrists, and cast a quick spell to keep me in my body. They knew I wasn't strong enough to go anywhere without possibly getting lost.
Other than that, not as of yet.
I had on many occasion, but never taugh that what it was till a friend of mine who does it told me thats what it was, the last one was so scary cause it was not my wishe I was litteraly pull out of my body by some force and I fight it with alot of trouble, I felt it pulling me and I saw myself almost hitting the door then I was able to go back in my body, sincerly its the most unpleasent thing I have been experience.
astral projection is something that i have extensively studied, and i have had very desireable results from it. i have meet people before i have physically met them. for me it seems to bring about the future before hand to me and then eventually it is played out in real life.
Iknow that the druids in my guild? bard are learning about it now, as far as me,i have been doing it for a while, its a life taught skill taught in druidism,and is something that once person becomes good with they can do more often then none, and can be some times quite intersting
master druid
couple times, and sometimes they suck, sometimes there awesome
I am a Shaman - so that answers the question really. not had many spontaneous OBEs - least not since i was a kid - a spirit walker can usually control his OBE.
however - i do know someone who has been troubled by a lot of spontaneos OBEs lately - a fellow house member. i've been training her to control them.
I tried to have one once but I didn't get very far.
Everything started spinning and I got freaked out and decided not to mess with that stuff again.
i hav them all the time... and i now know how to controll it. iv been having them for years. AND I STILL DONT KNOW why i get them this much if i dnt try 2 get one.
would that be more like devsjavo? like i've been here before and i know whats going to happen next. like a movie that your in and you already know whats next?
I have not had an OBE myself...But one of my family members have, while giving birth...I don't remember hardly any of the details, this was told to me awhile ago and I just remembered it now.
I have only ever had one experience... it was about 15 years ago and I visited a friend of mine. We talked and everything felt very peacefull and I remembered walking out of my house and down the street over to her house. She was not in the house... so I just sort of floated down the street and found her sitting on the hood of a car. The next morning I found out that she was hit by a car and died instantly. But the feeling that everything is alright never went away. Maybe she is in heaven and I miss her every day.
WoW. Same thing with my grandpa. I miss him so much. I am very thankful for astral projection, things unknown like this is really a blessing. ~NFA
My OBE's area t night After I go to sleep, and I have no idea what I do until I'm told
I had one today and it had VR members in it. It was interesting. If I remember the whole thing againI will put it here, or in my journal.~NFA
I had dreams of soaring and swooping like a bird. I always considered the possibility these were OBE experiences
Nope I keep having this fucken dream that I am on a rollercoaster with a few of my VR friends lol. Its effing weird lol.~NFA
I am not sure if this counts or not:
I was in a train wreck. I am not sure if it was a dream or if it was real. but I seemed to be above everything looking down. I could see the wreck or maybe my perception of the wreck.
I could see myself laying there, my eyes were slightly opened. but I wasn't moving.
My next memory was of everyone moving around in chaos. and I was being shuffled out of the way. I was by then, fully awake.
I am not sure as I mentioned, if it was a dream or not. It is the closest I have ever been to an Outer Body Experience.
I can't say whether or not I've had one, due to not having anyone until now that I could speak to about things.
I believe they're possible with the right knowledge of how to do them and the will power to proceed.
I've had many OBEs without trying. Its the one time I actually tried that I had a terrifying experience. Two disembodied hands came out and started choking me. I haven't tried to force it since.
yes, the first time ever was not even a year ago. i'll start of by the one my friend did to me. i was walking down an alley, i had just left her house. anyways i was walking and i felt this thing behind me, usually its someone, well when i turned around she was right there, i closed my eyes for a second and she was gone. there was no time for her to run away and she wasnt allowed out of the house. when i got back to her house she asked me how my walk was down the alley. i asked did she see me she told me while she was drawing something for me she froze and was in the alley.
one night i was sleeping and next thing i know im standing above her and then i sat down on her bed. she awoke and saw me. i dissappered. i saw her the next morning and she told me what she saw. it was wierd
well..i don`t know if it was actually an obe.. but it happens to me that at times while im laying inthe center of my bed thinking..i feel as if im falling down...
I have been studing OBEs for about a month now, i can't seen to get it to work.
The farthest i have gotten was feeling like the room was spinning and my body was cold. My friends say i was close but i do not know. Anyone have any pointers on how to help myself clear my mind?
The closet I came to an OBE was when I was having a horrid asthma attack and nearly blacked out. I remember seeing only black and asking my Mom to help me (she'd passed away a few years before)...I was able to function enough to call 911.
It was a strange feeling -- very peaceful tho--or as peaceful as you can feel when you can't breath.
YEAH BSA I get like that to when I am coming in for a landing lol!
If my soul can get out of my body, i dont know...
But, sometimes...i play around...
ex: i go with some friends to a bar, we sit in a table, i stop talking, ans concentrate in what i wanna do...
Next thing it happens...im looking to myself in the chair, in the table...eyes in eyes, as i do with everyone...
I even can see the backs of the people sitting in that table...
I have had many out of body experiences.Usually they scared me
because there was an evil presence their.
When I tried to comeback they wouldnt let me.I had to fight to go back to my body.
I've not personally had an OBE while I was concious, however I've had several dreams where I did so. The latest one was where I was at work and I just became separated from my "Corpus Jensi" and floated up to the ceiling, before I woke up and remembered the entire thing...
I appologize if this isn't worth mentioning here, but I believe it is.
i had a small one not to much all i know is that i did have one once before i would try again but my body has been so stressed lately and i know you have to be totaly relaxed and i just havnt been so yeah
I have other people tell me that I can do this, with proof. However, I can not remember exactly how I did. I am sure it is understood how frustrating that is.
Dark Greeting's,Every night I have OBE.
Dark Blessing's,
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no i have never had one unless you call tripping on acid an obe lol but i know people who say they have
Well I am not so sure under the influence, but crazier things have happend.
I've had times where I am doing something and all the sudden instead of me focusing on whatever it is I am doing I am watching myself do it from somewhere else.......the other day i was walking home and then kind of out of nowhere when I was crossing the street I ended up watching myself cross the street from behind, like my body kept walking but my brain stayed on the street corner........if that makes any sense at all, lol
I have not yet a family member of mine has and they say it is very enlighting.
i dont know if it is OBE exactly, but i had astrange experience once. i was at a friends house, having a conversation with her, and i was halfway through a sentence when suddenly - and i do mean suddenly, it was like someone had just flicked a switch - i was somewhere else, and i think someone else. i was in a candle-lit room, with stone walls. i was lying on a bed or pallet covered in furs. there was a large open window (no glass) and a veranda opposite. a woman in a white gown beckoned me over, and i struggled to join her on the veranda (i was old and weak).
outside it was night, but i could see into a courtyard surrounded with trees. the courtyard was lit by a string of coloured lanterns, and people were celebrating. there was a warm breeze, and the air smelled of late summer. there were young people and children singing and dancing in the courtyard, and the woman beside me put her arm around my shoulders and said softly "they are singing for you", and i felt very happy and content. then i was suddenly back with my friend, and finished saying the word i was saying before i was gone. my friend said i just seemed to freeze in mid word for a few seconds. it seemd so real - as if i was really there. it wasnt like a dream - it was just as real as every real life experience. the smells, the sounds, the feel of the wind.
Right after my best freind died she came and visited me one night. That was the only time it happened. Does that count?? It wasnt me, but I did see it.
Today while I was sleeping and I awoke into an OBE. I was at my friend Cindy's house with her and the dogs. I was really fucken like there. She had made lunch for us to eat and she was talking about her ex. Then I went back into my body slammed real hard down into it. I awoke to a phone call from my friend cindy stating thanks for the visit.~NFA
I swear I had one this morning...It was really quick...I saw myself on the couch in the living room. It was weird
lol...as i said, it happend to me also...
but...why does it happens?
Another trick well produced by our brain?
i had one this morning, it was wierd. i was laying down on my best friends bed and when she came back into the room i left... i guess i just wanted to see how she was doing
Yes I have had several, I mean the spontaneusones while awake. I have also had the experience in lucid dreams, as well as when I do it purposefully, they aren't usualy near as vivid or as real though. I have gone into another place of this time period, as well as seen myself in different time period via this which is just odd, as if I was seeing a movie sort of.
Btw, the experience that happened in mid sentance above... I think that was a bit more then an OBE :)
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Yes i have had many OBE experiences, my first was as a child when i almost drowned. I was at a lake and fell over a bridge into a river when i bumped my head in the water i become unconcious and my astral body left and found my cousin that was in the area I reached out to him and lead him to the water where he found me laying in the water. This scared him to death as he thought i was leading him there myself. Since then i tried to read up on the subject and practice it in my youth without luck until my knowlege grew into adulthood and i began more intense meditations that allowed me to travel outside of my body and lead me any place i wanted to go.
When they occur for me I welcome them, I view it as a natural process of our subconscious meant to help guide / direct. However I do not purposefully pursue them as someone stated above, they are not always a positive experience.
I've had several, mostly induced. If you really want details ..... message me.
Well... I have never really considered anything that has happened to me like that an OBE, but now that it is put into perspective for me, I think I have had several. You see, I suppose my family has strong magical ties, at least on my mother's side. My sister, brother, and mother are all Wiccan, but I have stayed at a neutral atheist, not wanting to feed into any organized religion of any sort... No offense to anyone, just not my cup of tea... However, as a favor to my mother, I picked up tarot to be "involved in the family beliefs" or whatever... Since that time, I believe my spiritual energies have been steadily growing, given my increased ability to read someones past and future using tarot...
Anyways, getting back on topic...
When I read someone's tarot, sometimes I completely zone out in the middle of the reading and see things... Like I'm watching a soap opera of someone's life... When I come back, I seem to startle people with my accuracy. I do have involuntary OBEs when I sleep sometimes, but there's a reason I'm an insomniac... I don't really want to experience what I do when I sleep...
I do actually have a question to expand on the original topic, as well... I know it is possible to see future events in an OBE, but what about POSSIBLE future events? Like alternate realities that never have a chance to come to fruition? If it is, I believe I have seen them... I don't mean like imagining "what if?" but actual events... I hope that makes sense...
Yes i have had them several times.....well neardeath ones and astral travel almost every night to be with my love......altral travel i have no problems with as that is very smooth sailing but the nd ones can scare the shit out of you
I'm not sure. The closest thing I can recall was when I was in the hospital shortly after I had the stroke. I was in the middle of a full blown grand mal seizure..only I was watching myself at the same time and screaming at the nurses standing around me to "HELP ME PLEASE!".. Not sure if that was an OBE or just the heavy drugs they had me on =P
I'm not sure...I did I guess..Anyway I was standing beside myself...I was in meditation..it jolted me back...lol...Guess it freaked me out some.
WoW Aradai sounds pretty intense for your cousin. I know when I did something similar to my younger sister she cried for days cos she was scared.~NFA
I have, as have my mother...once my mother was 'dreaming' that she was at a bar; she asked a gentleman if he had a lighter she could borrow; later on she awoke and found that same lighter in her hand while she was in bed...it was one we had never seen before except in her dream...I have had similar experiences
Weird I had awaken to yellow rose petals on my pillow from my grandpa cos he liked those alot. I am glad to have had these experiences. Gives me something to smile about.:)~NFA
my mother use to travel OBE she quit when something wouldn't let her back into her body. she said it had a skull like face and that it was short in stature (this coming from a woman who is barely 5').
I started studing OBE when i had my first without trying.. I was laying in bed and i think i passed out but it was something more.I could feel myself being lifted from the bed.I could turn and see myself laying there staring at the cielling.. (i sleep with my eyes open)I then saw a great flash of light and i was in the sky in the middle of a thunder storm looking down on a green tower covered with ravens.One ravens flew up to me and told me that i was not who i am but nothing more then a pawn in life.But it was my decission to change that.. then the tower exloded in front of me and i was shot back to my body and fell off the bed.. Since then i have been studing OBE alot.. I know practice it everynight in hopes to met that raven once again.I belive that OBE is a form of seeing your sub mind.But there are many things that have been done.. For example.. a freind of mine that didn't belive in it.. he leaves four states away from me.. I told him to place an object on the floor in the center of his room.. I have been to his room before and know wat it looks like.. I went that night though astral and told him it was a tool cd laying on the floor.. I was right.. Since then we study togther and travel the astral realm side by side.So in fact OBE is real of course and can be used to your advantage.. It is just when it happens to you without you expecting it it is odd..
I've never had an OBE. The closest thing is sometimes i go to different rooms in my house without realising it and i'll stop and think "how did i get here?" Which isn't all that interesting compared to an OBE
I've had a few of what I think to be OBEs but I'm not really sure. I've floated around my house before and seen myself lying in bed asleep or still reading my book but then it changes to me having to keep myself from floating through the ceiling. I finally wake back up and I've never known for certain as to whether to call them OBEs or chalk them up to my weird dreams.
I have had a few. Some I had no control over the leaving of My body and others I did.
i myself have never hade an OBE, but i am studying the meditation and techniques for it. i would love to experience one, and am enjoying my many attemps!!!
I have never had an OBE. I don't think I would to. the whole leaving the body thing is really not my cup of tea, especially to do it without my expressed willingness.
I have had OBE's but I feel very drained and like nobodysfallenangel said I feel like I slam back into my body almost like my heart wasn't beating while I was gone, but then feels like thats where I come back to all at once on my chest and feel very tired when this happens, does anyone know why that might be?
I haven't had many OBE's, but when they do happen, it always has to do with something important.My boyfriend and I have come up with something quite interesting. when we miss each other we use astral travel to see each other. this is very helpful since we live rather far apart.
Yes. Went to see my mom in VA from Texas just before she died
ive had a few obes. some have hurt me and some havent, but ive had 3 that have left marks on me
i now have to say yes. i have alot and very vivid obe's all the time... i just started a dream journal and on my way to really understanding what the heck i have been experiencing... wicked kisses, darla...
I have had a few. Like some of the others have said, I feel very drained afterwards!
well, the information you gave on the subject was amazing. I know quite a bit about out of body expieriances but most was belief you put fact to it. thanks.
Yes i've had serveral, i find it sad that so many feel that they are not good. I think they are one of the most amazing things to expieriance even if it wasnt a great place you can learn so much.
I am still working on fully being able to project and have control of the whole process. however at this moment the only FULL projections that i've had to the astral plane have been during sleep.
I have never had an obe. I do want to do research and learn how. Some of the books that I have found only speak of people that have, and briefly about the process. I need to find material that will speak of it all. Any pointers?
I've never had a full on OBE or AP, but there was one time that I was sitting in my friends living room, and I started feeling like I was floating up out of my body. All of sudden I felt hands grabbing me, and I came to with my friends looking at me and holding my hands. They said I just sort of glazed over and then there was like one and a half of me. my body, and then the part floating up. they made me eat and sit for like 2 hours before letting me go home. lol
I had one a few days ago again. It drained the shit out of me. I was so weak.~NFA
im kinda new to any hearing that obe's are even possible, so may i ask what exactly happens during one?
I completely believe in OBE's. I had one while meditating once.
An OBE is an out of body experience. You leave the body, and you travel the astral planes. It's a ver intense, and very energy consuming travel.
I just had one the other night. I visited my friend who is my lifelong friend. She was crying, and her thoughts were to leave her husband. The truth had finally hit her, and she realized her marriage was all a lie. She called me up yesterday to tell me to get online, and read my email. I was just waiting for her to let me know all this is going on. So it was weird, but I already knew it was coming.
OBE's are really a good thing. It's never to late to be able to know stuff, see things, and visit others. ~NFA