The Ultimate Vampire Resource and Directory

I'm not sure how to word this question, but I'm curious about the feedback. So bear with me.

You know how there are extremely religious people (Christian or catholic or Orthodox) and they have their crosses or crucifixes. Maybe their plaques of saints. And they believe in it, wholeheartedly. Theoretically, it should be a good thing. something that doesn't have bad energy to it. right?

My question is, if someone prays and prays to their god or their saints, but they have bad intentions could that then create bad energy or bring forth bad spirits even if it is a religious thing? and God is supposed to provide good energy and emotions?

My reason for asking this is that my girlfriend's parents are extremely Greek Orthodox. They do not appreciate our relationship nor do they accept it. (it runs deep, the stress from these parents) in any event, we shared a house and when they found out, they kicked me out. Her mom started lighting incense and it smelled literally like church. Even though I was kicked out, I still stayed there, when her parents left. but when I came back to the house the energy was so different. it was evil. and I'm catholic, and Ive never felt something so mean. and every time after that when her parents visited it got worse.

I know they do not like gays. I know they believe in all the religion. but i dont believe she can excorcise a demon out of her daughter with all this. but is it a possibility that even tho she meant well for her child that maybe she woke something up that wasn't supposed to be?

Ive had dreams of beelzlebub (sorry for the spelling of that one) in that house and seen dark figures that i had never seen in that house before.

Do your own cleaning of the area.

That might help. As far as dark firgures- you are on your own with that one.

Cleaning the area would probably be the best idea....You two should really get your own place soon. It would probably be better for both of you.

I am a little confused over the whole who is living ehre thing.

Were you living together with your girlfriend in her parent's houe? Or were the two of you sharing living accomodations of your own?

I think the whole "negative energy" thing has NOTHING to do with God or any pryers to God. The way I understand God is any answer to a prayer will reflect God's will. The God I believe in would not visit evil or negativity on anyone simpley by request.

People are quite capable of being negative and leaving negative feelings in their wake all by themselves.

You should do a cleansing of the house. I also am confused as to who's house is it? I men if it is a place that the 2 of you share, then her parents need to butt out.

I believe that people can awaken spirits in a place by doing such things, maybe not on purpose yet still allowing an opening if you will, for them to enter the home.

I beleive when there is alot of hatred and bad energy thrown towards a place or person, no matter what the medium use to do it, it can be done and then like several sugested a cleaning spell, or incantation, and maybe some protection after, I mean evil can find its way regardless if you use religious icons or not

I personally think that it's just the bad energy that your feeling from her mother not really in the house. But then again i've never been to your house so if you feel that there's something in your presence that you feel is evil and con not explain then i suggest you maybe go to your preacher at church and ask him to do an excorsism on the house. I too am catholic and i believe that houses can be possessed , if thats what her mom was intentioanlly trying to do. as far as your dreams go sumtimes stress, parnoia, or you could possibly have a chemical inbalance in your brian. You should probably talk to your doctor about those dreams becuase if they are too out of the ordinary and too frequent then i know that doctors will prescribe thought control pills so you dont have nightmares at all.

First off let me say i respect all relegions. That being said, here goes. I find most organized relegions to be a farce. Has any one ever read the story in the bible of job? What kind of God completely screws up a mans life, just to win a bet with lucifer? That sucks.

Firstly, bad intentions and prayer don't seem to go together.

Perhaps the parents see you as an evil influence yourself ? Perhaps you are picking up on this ?

I think sometimes we all pay a high price for the kind of life we choose to live, even if that life is based on love.

I hope things improve for you and your partner, but no I don't think it's anything to do directly with religion.

Her parents must indeed despise, maybe even hate you to go to such extremes.. Prehapes they are trying to repel you from the house by creating such negative energy.

They simply didn't stop to think of what it could do to their daughter as well. I'd say fight fire with fire.. But that tends to be a bit on the.. cruel.. side in this case.. So do what you must to free the house of their influence and move on.

It is possible. Because if it's something only they want then they may be waking the hatred of the disapproaval. If u get what I mean. U may be feeling the evil of ur wrath against them. Just a possibility.

We've all ready moved out. her parents live in kentucky so they only stay at the house here in florida when they visit. we lived there last year maybe a little longer but we were discussing it last night. How the house felt so calm till they came. then it just got worse and worse when they found out about our relationship. her parents do think i am the devil. and they think im manipulating her yadda yadda. i just feel like all her prayers are bringing forth bad energy. which does sound crazy. If only I could show you all how they are. They were here in florida last week and my girl had to go visit. and she said she couldnt sit in the house for very long.

I agree that God (well the god i believe in as well) would not harm us for our love. and they he will answer prayers as he sees fit. which is why i wonder about evil spirits coming to help her instead.

We've been together almost 3 years now. and her parents are worse about it than before. but we are on our own and making it. slowly but surely lol. I do think that house needs a cleaning but i will never set foot in it again. there is something there that is bad. i know it. thanks for ur feedback !!

I cant say that God or a god has anything to do with another persons negative energy. It just sounds like her parents were giving off such strong negative energy that it stayed in the house while yall lived there & after yall left. Like everyone else has said, the house needs a good cleansing.
Dont let her parents get you down anyways. They have their own ideals for their child even though shes living an entirely different lifestyle. Give it time & God willing they will eventually accept you both as a couple & accept you as you are. If not then dont worry about it. Yall live apart & its probably for the best in your situation.

I don't think God in general has anything to do with sweetie! Sometimes people bring bad energy of their own or make it and it could be the actual person with in that could be bad and you never sensed it before! They could have very easily with all their anger and things awoken something in the house it is very possible but like every one else has suggested if you do a cleansing it should get rid of the negative energy or spirit that is there

I think you have a case of bad people using bad energy for bad intent. I do not subscribe to Catholicism or Christian Orthodoxy, but I know they don't condone praying or wishing ill on others.

Yor best bet is to do some cleansing of your own with sage incense.

I personally believe that we make our own decisions, and we make our won good and evil- I honestly (and personally- no flaming) believe that, and I think that praying makes me difference, as we are simply praing to ourselves to have courage and wisdom.

You being a Catholic you should have a Priest come and bless your house. You can also do a cleansing spell with sage. But I say go with a Priest. It couldn't hurt.

evil is evil. i don't care who you pray to. some of the most evil people i know are christian. i also know some satanist who are saints.

who you pray too doesnt make a difference......evil is evil.

praying to God does not bring negetive anything. God allows you to live the way you wish and then judges you for the way you have. if these people are going for negative, they will be judged in the end.

I agree with KC up there

Its probably nothing to do with the prayers as a 'worship' thing.

Prayer is very focussed; maybe their bad feelings so focussed can change the whole atmosphere of the place

Its like a room's 'feeling' being changed in a room after a murder, it was nothing to do with prayer - juts a very focussed negative act

Stinking the house out with incense would only remind you that they have these feelings and not help the situation.

First, about the religious extremists in Kentucky thing...I just moved away from there, so you have my sympathies. Someone once tried to exorcise me too for being different... Rediculous.

Next, regarding religion and evil. People are evil, not their religions per se. They may use their religious convictions as their justfication to do harm. But it is the harmful intent that is coming from their own mind, not thei faith itself. Some people take the rules of their religions to an extremem where they feel it is their right to change or punish anyone who does not conform to their standards. It's not nice, but it happens. I wish I could tell you that it gets easier, but it may not.

And is there really good and evil? Or is it just Us and Them, and we see our own side as right?

thats a good point. I guess it is more between us and them. they just use religion as their medium. The world needs a good cleansing.

It has often been pondered whether or not those acting out of hatred, power or greed even when done in the name of God, Allah, The Goddess or any other deity could actually be the influence of darker forces (the Devil, Shaitan, Demons, Evil Spirits, etc). One can openly wonder if a true benevolent god or goddess would support such work.

The question it seems to me is whether such hatred or greed would simply annoy a deity to simply ignore it and thus the evil you feel is the man or woman who acts hypocritically or if they are in fact attracting or being influence by evil. Is mankind fundamentally responsible for their own actions. Do those actions have evil enough on their own or do they bring evil to them like a magnet.

During the hippie days with all the drugs and weed. Vibes were very important .Relationships were based on vibes. Vibes ruled the atmosphere of BE-Ins. Concerts. Festivals and yes even orgies. Bad vibes were usually asociated with people, places and things. Id say her mom brought the bad vibes and now you have to live with them or leave. In the day we usualy left.gothpop(Pagan)

I am not convinced that the negative energy that you felt wasn't a psycho-symatic effect generated by the way you thought that the house began to carry the aroma of a church. If you have ever felt uncomfortable in a place of organized worship, it wouldn't seem odd to me that you would feel the same way in any place, to you, that carried a memory stimulant. I think that as the odor of the incense lessens so will your feelings of discomfort.

One thing I remember reading when I was younger regarding religion and negative aspects of religion, is that no matter what name you call that which you pray/chant etc to, if you are seeking positive things, your prayers will go to the god/goddess/spirit etc that is positive while if you are seeking negative things, your prayers will go to those that are negative.

I really do believe that if somebody prays for something bad to happen to someone who they feel did them wrong, a negative energy will be born from that person's anger. This may sound silly, but to quote Yoda:

"Fear is the path to the darkside. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering."

I believe that quote is be very true. Nothing positive can come from anger. One person's anger truly can leads to another's suffering - it sounds that whatever your girlfriend's mother has woken up, it is causing you two ladies to suffer. I truly hope that it won't hurt or damage your relationship. I can tell that you care about your girlfriend alone, so I believe that if the two of you stick together you will be able to overcome whatever is happening in her home. I wish you both the best of luck. *HUGS*

that is one of my favorite quotes. I used to say that all the time (im a star wars geek lol) and thats what made me think about maybe something being awoken from the negative energy.

As for it being psycho somatic ... i don't mind the church smell. i don't think it was the smell that made me start feeling that. Ive been in churches a lot. the smell is something Ive had around for a long time in my life. but that does make a good point that i may have started to associate that smell with something bad because of the attitude of her parents.

I guess i just wish my girl would be stronger about not allowing them to even bring me or our lifestyle up. i know they are her parents and she cant stop talking to them. (tho in my opinion sometimes blood is not thicker than water, esp when u are abused for most of ur life but thats a whole nother story. ) I think im more afraid of her parents anger causing something bad to happen.

i think it is possible if one becomes idle to cultivate negative energy without realizing it

I think anyone with strong enough feelings of dislike or hatred can create bad energy whether they intend to or not. My family is Greek Orthodox, and having been brought up around them my entire life, I know that they tend to believe in things like "the evil eye" and such, and usually create strong negative energy towards those who they feel have wronged them in any way.

There is a fable from islam that goes.

A little boy wants a sword for his birthdday present, and he tells his father that this is his wish. His father tells him to pray every day with absolute faith, for the sword and god will answer his wish.

The boy prays every day for several months until his birthday, fully believing (as his father told him) that he would get te sword for his birthday). His birthday arrives and goes and he does not get a sword. He angrily confronts his father with the issue.

"You said if I prayed every day with absolute conviction that I would get teh sword."

"No, I said that if you prayed he would answer you; sometimes he says no."

That's a great story Kglitterous- and can be applied to any belief-system :)

Most religions, including Christianity, teach love of other people. Christianity also holds the belief that people should not judge each other because that is God's job and people have their own sins, making them no better than someone they want to judge. It is unfortunate that too often these days, people become very enraged for not following their faith or not following it the same way. Her mother has turned her anger on you for being in a relationship with her daughter. What she is leaving in that house is not the product of God but of her hatred. If you truly believe that you are not in the wrong for being gay, do not fear that her belief in hatred for our kind ;) is backed by God. Hatred canleave powerful feelings in a place. The other feelings you mentioned could be the result of your girlfriend feeling upset about the whole thing. There are ways of undoing it.

Cleaning the area would probably be the best idea....You two should really get your own place soon. It would probably be better for both of you.

kglitterous. what an amazing story. I think of all the great advice I've received in this post that the metaphor u shared is probably the most touching. it eases me, esp since i grew up catholic.

as far as christianity and not judging. there are just too many people who do these days. they feel it is so wrong and will not leave it up to God. that is the problem in my eyes. everything is ass backwards.

well, i'm a vampire and i go to church as many sunday's as i can. I wear 2 crucifixes around my neck.

Some ppl think if i'm a vampire, there's no way i can be religious, i'm satan's child. But they overlook the fact that that is a stereotype. Dracula WAS satan's child but nevertheless, a character. The real dracula was different.

I find i can confide in god and he will understand my nature. I don't pray at night unless i feel a need to.

i am a vampire who wear crosses and did go to church but has more lies and deceit in them than i do elsewhere..I am studying LHP and doesnt care who likes it doesnt i am me and still a good person who still has a tiny bit of goodness faith in me..I am preparing to do a cleansing spell of my own soon..Everyone needs to believe how they wish and not how ppl expect them to..i was raised baptist and shakes my head..I said enough on something i truly know nothing of

i dont think it comes down to religion but more beliefs. If someone beliefs enuff then strange things happen.

The chaange u may feel is the feelings put off by ur friends parents, it the same thing if u walk into a house were there is disharmny or anger u can feel it in the house and the same in a house full of cheer

I kn this as the house we were living in felt glommie when my wife and i was argueing all the time and as soon as we stopped it became cool and a bright house to be in.

I dont think u can stop ur friends parents negativity but if u have an area where it is kept out u may feel a change.

Im not a very religious person but i've looked into different religions what i've seen of some of them i dislike, wars started over whos religion is better etc etc...people killed for religion (9/11, 7/7 bombings)...so many religions say that if you dont worship this person or that person then you'll burn in hell for all time...but who are they to say which is good or which is bad...each to his own i say...!!

but personally i choose the wiccan/pagan way of life..worship nature...your inner self, your spiritual side etc...it gives strenght & inner power to ones self!

i feel in any religion/belief system there will always be a good and evil and even though the person thinks there doing good it is possible it can turn out to be how you say evil.

It seems like a lot of people like to think of their god as the only god around but that is not true, their is not one true god, i believe that their is only energy one big ball of energy, and i think people put a face on that energy so that they can identify with it, and if what i say is true then any religion could use prayers to hurt another person, so what i think you should do it follow their example, send back to them what they sent to you, but worse...

when it come to religion, i can not says that there is a god or devil, but some time people do thing for a faith that could be evil.

My personal thoughts on the issue are that "Religions" whatever they may be are not necessarily evil.. but it is up to the person that is practicing their belilefs that have that choice to be "evil", in most religions there is no right or wrong way to practice, it is often up to the person on how their faith system develops...

I have to agree with other members. Just do your own cleaning rituals, it's always best. I wish I had better information for you but that is my only outlook on it I'm interested to see what everyone else posts as well

i have to agree with others that cleansing the house and the area is the best way to go

Being a Catholic myself the bible teaches us that it is wrong to wish bad on anyone or anything.

Just because you think that is what it is it possibly could not be.

Lighting insence and things wouldn't make you feel like there is something bad it has always been to cleanse and refresh to set a good mood. It is possible you are just feeling the negative energy from her parents?

I don't think God had anything in general to do with this at all. As God wouldn't want bad things to happen and to encourage evil.
I think maybe it could be your gf's parents. As people can make their own negative energy, and they could have even awoken something bad in your house. I suggest like many people that you cleanse your home hun. xx

they say that things hold the emotonal tone that is put in them so yes if you pray for bad things or put bad energy in to something i belive that it will radiate it

Such a tough topic to comment on. I do agree though, you two should get your own place. Don't let her parents break you two up. I've been in the same situation with the parents hating me. Sad, that they can't see how happy you make the daughter.

One idea about God and gods, which I don't necessarily believe, is that there is something like a city board...several gods sitting around a table that guide and rule how they please, and leave us to think of them how we want.

As for the negative energy, there have been several good points given. One that the parents negative mood has replaced to good in the home with an evil/bad presence. My thoughts is that there is possibly two energies clashing that are causing such feelings. You and your girls more positive energy, and the energy, metally brought up or spirtually there, are are different mean within the house and its making themselves apparent to you because you are the intervening presence.

I too, hope all gets better for you. "God never gives us something we cann't hendle" and everything happens for a reson. Good luck hun!

i dont think its based apon a god....
the best thing to do for now is like they said above cleance your home and do what makes you feel better...people has there different beliefs im sure youll get a good answer if not one already

i thinks its more of how you feel. id think its the same as how a home doesnt feel like home, after youve been kicked out, i know when i was evicted from my apartment the last week there everyone just felt a little down. besides, gods the accepting sort, i dont think hed let some crazy zealots hex you.

u just can not have one with out the outher that will kill the banlies of thing

if someone ask for bad, it will bounce back, it might work but in the end the price will be extremly hight, and its not worth it.

Interesting post

When upset or angry have you sometimes been writing and scribbled stuff not knowing what the pattern is and been angry?
This might be sigil you unconsciously made.
The next development is this dark being or demon
It is a Servitor a blank form part of your dark mind.
All you need to do is give it a task
It’s yours

i think you should definatly cleanse the area

sorry just wanted to comment on the tittle of this thread Religion and Evil...I think religion is evil...although I do believe myself in God...if that's makes sense it should to few...

No it doesn’t … sorry can you explain ?

My thinking about religion is that it's cult like in it's own organized ways and delivers the message of I'm right and you're wrong, or you're right and I'm wrong, but someone's always got to be wrong...but this is just my opinion...I should have elaborated on that thought...

I would assume that praying for bad things simply wouldn't work at all, since the people that you are referring to are supposedly good natured. I'm guessing it might even have an adverse effect and come back to bite you in the butt.

Bloodlust-

When someones religion interferes with the natural feelings of Love.. I feel that, is wrong. One cannot chose who one falls in love with.
My advice to you is; go with what YOU BELIEVE IN.. : You as a COUPLE, together, you have your OWN religion, your own beliefs.
SOME religions have an order that must be followed, but you are not in those religions. If you hold your Love high, nothing can bring it down.
Of course, a thought has a feeling, a feeling carries a series of actions and intentions. They may well be wishing you away from him. It can only happen if you both allow it.

Be strong and LOVE one another.

my advice for BloodLust...you say you are catholic...my opinion is that you should perhaps pray to God about this and ask him to get you through this hard time and to get rid of whatever it is you've encountered...all in all by religious standards God is love and likewise...and perhaps her parents should reexamine their religion...after all they kicked you to the curb, none the less keep the peace and good luck to you and yours my dear...

I have looked in to other 'religions' SOME seem like a 'control' to me. I can only see that as a evil thing as Lust aforementioned.
ONE should control One self.

I believe in evil and i believe in good but i do not believe in orginized religions, they all try to control you in some way...

not all religion is good no matter what anyone says there is always a evil side 2 everything for if it had no evil part it wud have no good part

thats is a good point bloodtype

I'm not much on big Christianity stuff but if you don't beleive in what they do because of your type of relationship it could be just you feeling like that because they are gone.
But like I have seen moving to another place would be an idea if you don't like it or just do the cleansing thing or make your own scents.

cleansing the area would be a good idea. but be careful whom you choose to help. not all of them works

I going to join the broken record and tell you to cleanse the house, etc.... but don't forget the protection also (as mentioned before) I must say however that religion in it's self is not evil, obviously, but people who are so self absorbed in it can make it that way.... as you explained about your girlfriends parents..... they need to let her go and let her find God, if that is her path, not force it on her...... I hope you two are doing ok through all this.... Good luck!

religion is a way to make people feel safe
and someone they can talk to but are they actuali talkin to anyone
now people hav sed certain things are evil
but are they reli

Look throughout history,more evil has been done under the banner of religion than enough.

isnt that strange. all the evil done in the name of God. it really pisses me off. religion had the right idea at first. then somehow it just got out of control.

The negitive energy could have came from her parents... Most people can feel others anger, [or basic feelings]. But if you really dont like the feeling go see someone that might be able to help [im not to educated in this....]

~Silver

I agree, a cleansing is the best idea. I personally don't think that god would bring evil to you. He is to bring love and understanding. It could be the parents feelings are radiating off and making you feel uncomfortable and thus, your whole living are seems less welcome

Ok, here you must study about such things. In every religion there is variable sides of perspective as well as intent. Most come to believe these Good against Evil or Justice VS Chaos, the Ying and Yang. As most christians are to believe in there God, they have no sense that just as a human he is also the very Satan they speak of. He's good to you when you follow him and do his bidding yet will smit you or your adversary also known as Satan, those that oppose him. To this following an imperfect God, so how can you conduct that it is of pure good energy when they contradict themselves in every way. The very Altar christians have is no more than what a Wiccan, Necro, Satanist, Druid and etc would have. Yet say they are against witchcraft. Neo-Pagans however disreguard that rule. If sought out, the witchcraft of christians does exist and plainly is called Angel Magic, done so by the Book of Solomon. It wasn't untill in around the 12th Century that power over the followers came into play, where we are thought to believe in the Devil or was so called Lucifier which is a lie. He doesn't overlook Hell, he's no more a demon than what Micheal is, and these demons have names. They are Angels, or Celestrials, whichever you prefer.

Celestrials are no more perfect than we are, due to being created by a creator that is no more than what we are. Just as every God and Goddess that we have prayed to, sought after, that have there minions just like the Christian God. In the depths of all this have a similar story just more abrood of a Pantheon than one being. And some believe that there is even a God of Gods and Goddesses, the one who made them as well as Demi-Gods and Goddesses, just like a family tree, we in turn are the same just like any creation that has been made. Demons are no more than unnamed minions of others that we don't know. For example the God Pan, he has his minions of Satyrs and Dryads. And in some ways the other minions are no more than the brothers and sisters of the father of them all such as Zues or Odin or Ra.

So complexed just like us yet all so simple. So evil and good are perspectives in a mind's eye. What is justified and what isn't. Following a god or goddess is with only personal intent and depending upon who you pray upon as your loyalties would lie. That's to give a bit of info on the subject based on what I have studied.

A Christian who prays for good things is good Christian. A Christian who prays for bad things is not only a Christian but possible a Satanist as well. They are 2-sides of the same coin.

I really feel it has nothing to do with religion per se, more it is their negative energy they are leaving every where they go.

well, god created all things, so god must have created evil.

Yea I believe cleansing would be your best thing to do. And I do hardly agree that their must be evil to have good. And, thier are religion for both evil and good. Its only up to the person who they choose to worship or to what to believe in.