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10:55:58 Apr 29 2005
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Does it drive you crazy when people rate a profile with one to two words?




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11:08:15 Apr 29 2005
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no, i use to say more, but some took it the wrong way so untill i get to chat with them. its a one word thing. its safe that way



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Yes, it does. To me it shows the person who is doing the rating, is not taking the time to read about the person who created the profile and rate according to content.



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After thought:

Mind you, there is some pretty long profiles out there, and it would take a hour to read them! and I wouldn't have the time to do that.



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11:12:05 Apr 29 2005
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i use to but then i got a bunch of people sending me messages that i was hitting on there little girlfriends



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11:19:12 Apr 29 2005
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If you want to say welcome then send them a message.



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11:23:29 Apr 29 2005
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its a shame that we half to play things safe, i am trying to put together a response that would be fitting like some of the others i see which are very good.i do send a message to those that i would like to say more.



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11:24:26 Apr 29 2005
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does it really matter, who cares i mean ur just welcoming them to vr, thats all



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v. rat·ed, rat·ing, rates

1 To calculate the value of; appraise.
2 To place in a particular rank or grade.
3 To regard or account: rated the movie excellent.
4 To value for purposes of taxation.
5 To set a rate for (goods to be shipped).
6 To specify the performance limits of (a machine, for example): This fuse is rated at 50 amperes.
Informal. To merit or deserve: people that rate special treatment.

Does Welcome fall into that?



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11:34:30 Apr 29 2005
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I am guilty of it as well but have changed my ways. I thought about it and said to myself that I am not rating them. Now I intend to rate a profile.



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11:48:06 Apr 29 2005
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No it does not bug me they at least left something.Some do not even say hello.



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13:34:06 Apr 29 2005
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I would rather have them send one word than nothing at all. I would sure like to know who knows I'm here. Some people just put "-", showing me they have no comment. But at least they're there.



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ellie
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13:34:26 Apr 29 2005
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nope it doesn't matter as long as they have rated me



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Emaerald
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13:42:04 Apr 29 2005
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Buy a premmy membership Jorg..then not only can you tell who rated you without leaving a note, but also what they rated. ;)



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13:53:53 Apr 29 2005
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I don't mind the one or two word ratings, if they don't have much to say so be it ...

what kills me (and yes I've done it a time or two not thinking clearly) is people rating a profile where the user has been "suspened for infinety" LMAO ... it's like UHMMM HELLO people ... they won't be back to see if you like their profile or not.

Or the ones that are extremly BIG and L O N G ! What's up with that ..

I like that people get creative with their commments I think that's good ... but dang some take up a huge space ....

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13:57:43 Apr 29 2005
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Regarding the definition of rating...
The comment is not their rating, it's the optional comment. I took that to mean that it could be whatever we felt like saying...if anything.

I certainly dont mind if someone leaves something brief. It's nice when they say something extra, but When I look at a lot of people's profiles..I dont have anything to say...I mean...it's not a middle-school assignment, I shouldnt have to make a reference to the text to prove that I read the profile.

If something catches my eye and I have a response to it, I write that, but I'm not about to start straining to come up with something...

"hey, way to be...5'7"...that's a damn good height!"

*shrugs* I like it when people say hello or welcome...it's friendly. Like we're just passing on the street or something.



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14:04:39 Apr 29 2005
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well the best advice i can give when rating a profile is this...
Use the K.I.S.S. theory....
Keep It Simple Stupid !!!!
This also applies to some profile content as well.... I've ran across quite a few profiles that have WAY TOO MUCH content. The key to a GOOD profile is to be creative but then don't OVERDO it... if you have too much content most users will lose interest very quickly and just move on. Don't overload your profile with content. Keep things simple. Tell a little about yourself, your likes, dislikes, etc. Put your pictures in your Portfolio... and if you want to say more about yourself use the Journal....

Well that's my gripe for the day !!! :P



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14:07:04 Apr 29 2005
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God!! look at the heat!!

Calm down people!

Oh well, a long time ago there was a "competition" who'd rate the most!!

So, it's just flat out "Welcome to Vampire Rave!"

and yes, it wouldn't require for the "Welcoming Comittee" to read and understand the content of the profile..so now..read it..

=)



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PiNkLuSt
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14:58:11 Apr 29 2005
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it doesn't bother me, im happy with someone comin over to visit my profile read it and leave me a word or two, of course it's nice to get a comment that o can actually. But im just fine with a few words... (i just hope the person actually read my profile)



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PiNkLuSt
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14:59:44 Apr 29 2005
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that was supposed to be **that i can actually read**

curse my spelling! grr...



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I would prefer it if people try to personalize their comments, thus showing that they HAVE read the actual profile. I try to that when I leave comments. But I certainly don't mind if they just leave a brief note. I appreciate the fact that they actually took the time to leave a tiny comment.



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15:16:28 Apr 29 2005
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to leave just a word or two....is fine.....
just glad anyone and everyone that stoped by.......blessed be !



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15:37:02 Apr 29 2005
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geeze if ya seen the comments on my profile and portfolio most of them are 1 or 2 words (exceptions of some with paragraphs or mile long letters) I try to say a few words atleast a sentance worth!! But yes it does drive me insane DA :)



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15:44:03 Apr 29 2005
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yes it does, but i do it too. Sometimes there is not much to say but welcome or something like that...



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16:02:46 Apr 29 2005
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i message comments
otherwise is rating and the fact i have been there so that people know who has done it
seems people get a bit bitchy on occasion when i have made valid comments and perfer 1 or 2 blah i was here shit



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Thera
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16:05:28 Apr 29 2005
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Yes, when im rated like that i feel like that person is saying-
"I m not interested in your damn pro, nor Im interested in u......do whatever u wanna.....this is just what I have to do to get my status up..."



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16:10:16 Apr 29 2005
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when im rating a worthless profile I try not to say too much



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16:15:01 Apr 29 2005
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I believe that a person should take time to rate another for if you just go trough the site not even looking at the profile and just clicking buttons you're not really participating in anything and i believe our admin keep track of the times we spend on this site if you really want to spend more time it would be favorable for you to read all of a persons profile and then comment on it. It shows the person you're not only there to boost thier rating and telling someone what you honestly think is always good i find it as constructive criticism and its helpful in all aspects of life. I mean yeah some people fear seeing YOU SUCK or the like but I would like for the person who say such moments whether possitive or negative to elaborate on thier notion for saying what they say.



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16:17:17 Apr 29 2005
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Well I wouldn't say worthless but if the profile has nothing on it . Besides the usual height eye color that sorta thing then I will just welcome them. But atleast my welcome is a sentence long.



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16:20:34 Apr 29 2005
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I don't mind a couple of words, that's fine. I do love it though when people write more. I'm not saying I always write a person an essay when I rate them, but I usually try to tell them why I liked it, if it made me laugh, if it had good content. Whatever.
One thing that DOES bug me however, is when people rate me and then their comment is, "Welcome to the Rave"
.....
I've been here for quite some time. It's sweet and all but I don't need to be welcomed to this place anymore like that... Someone might as well say, "welcome to the car" every time I get into my car. To me it just doesn't make sense. I say welcome to the whelps and such because they haven't been here long and that's polite...But when people say that to me it gives me the impression that they have read nothing about me and are just trying to up their own status. Plus they look like idiots...



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Daire
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16:46:50 Apr 29 2005
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What gets me is that a profile can say anything at all and still all anyone says is "welcome 10" or "cool profile 10"

I mean someone could write "I rape babies" in their profile and still everyone would just say welcome and 10 and cool profile......it just doesn’t matter what is in a persons profile it still gets the same rating and comment as every other profile in here. Even if a profile is empty, and I don’t mean has little in it, I mean is empty with not one word written in it, people still say “welcome 10 cool profile“.

Another thing i dont get is messages left on a profile that say "you're hot".....nothing else, just that.



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16:53:51 Apr 29 2005
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to add Daire... constructive criticism gets you hate mail :|

morons...



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Echo
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Emmy-

You have a point that some profiles are very long, and I couldn't honestly say that I have read every single bit of all the profiles I have rated. However, short or medium size ones I do read, and in large ones I read choice bits from the beginning, middle and end.

I always try to leave both praise and constructive critcism in my ratings, as isnt that what people want? It really annoys me when I put a lot of work into my profile, to get a rating from a caitliff or similar saying 'Welcome to VR. when Ive been a member for about seven months longer than them... so shouldn't it be me doing the welcoming?? Some people dont even look that far before they rate :-/

Outgoing- you also have a point about people taking things the wrong way. I once posted something along the lines of "A really nice start, but more information would be nice." and this person rated me a 1 and gave me a tirade of abusive messages. This I do not understand.

I do get a bit stroppy in ratings where the profile simply contains abusive comments, or "ask and I will tell." but I try even then to be constructive and informative. But then again, maybe some people dont want that.

In short (sorry, another forum novel) is if a person rates my profile, I would rather get a lower rating, and know that they had looked at it objectively, then get a ten and a greetings as in my opinion, if you want to say hello then send me a message.

Another question.... Why have people started putting links to their own profiles on their ratings? It seems to me like they are using others as a moving advertisement.



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17:08:32 Apr 29 2005
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it dose because i want to know what they think of me and what i put into it..cuz if u put lont into your profile u should get the right of a good message and a good rate'in



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Many good points have come from this post. It seems that the content in these profiles and their ratings are important to people. Yes, some are very long and drawn and others have nothing at all. My own has nothing telling you how tall I am or what my favorite food is but it does tell you something about me. How one rates me is not my concern but the interaction of the comment makes me decide weather to go to your profile or not. There are 1800+ profiles on the rave right now and if you can’t give more then two words please go rate someone else.



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23:15:07 Apr 29 2005
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No, It doesnt bother me. It shows the person that they at least skimmed your profile but it is evident that the beautiful people here read profiles anyway. *hugs the beautiful people*

Heathen



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It doesn't bother me, I just appreciate that they took the time to send a message that they stopped by. I admit that I don't leave very long messages, but just want people to know that what they put in the profile was viewed and appreciated. If I have more in depth comments I will usually send them a message.



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It doesn't bother me in the least. I would rather someone welcome me (like they did when I first came on) than to not ever acknowledge my existence here. A simple welcome to VR says a lot and shows no favoritism. If I read something in their profile that indicates I can add more info, then that is what I do. Most of the ones I have rated are newbies that don't even include and info about themselves, so I think a simple welcome is appropriate. If later when I check back on their profile and it has been enhanced I change the original rating and add more info like nice profile. I do, by the way send personal messages to those I think I may have something in common with and sometimes I don't even get a reply.



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01:40:32 Apr 30 2005
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It doesn't always get on my nerves when they just say one word. If I'm having a bad day it does get on my nerves. But usually it doesn't.



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YourDarkness
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That's kind of a hard topic to discuss... Sometimes one or two words doesn't bother me. I do it myself on some ocations. I guess it's better to have more than just a few words, that way you know they actually took the time to look at your profile and not just scan over it or jump to the bottom and rate high just to hope they rate you back just as high. But I still have nothing against one or two words. Short and sweet. And when people rate and welcome, I find nothing wrong with that as well. They may not just be rating to say welcome. Maybe as they rate, they would like to go ahead and take that time to welcome them as well. Maybe it's just me, but I think the answer could go either way.
*Best Regards Everyone.



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Sunshine
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LOL Daire you are so right.....LOL

I hate that too....I wish some people would read what is actually there and if there is nothing of great importance say...hello and give them time to fill in...oh whatever ...I am drunk...LOL



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i think most do it to boost their status and some might actually read them, but i don't expect a comment from anybody unless they just feel they want to express something from it. I do take the time to say ty for the rating at least no matter their intention. The only profile i don't like is the one's that come off as bitchy.



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I agree. I mean what drives me crazy is the profiles that state, "don't mess with me....." Or "if you screw with me or so and so, I will...." Who gave these people the impression that we are a mean bunch of people out to screw with them?



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clragonwytch
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03:20:42 Apr 30 2005
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i know you see too many of those or at least i know i have when rating the newbs LOL



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Octavia
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04:08:29 Apr 30 2005
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I'm just grateful that someone took the time to even read my profile....



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CorazonMuerto
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hmm well! I say the whole boosting status by rating is pointless because of the time commitment this site requires also. IF YOU PARTICIPATE FULLY YOU GET THERE FASTER SO READ THE PROFILES YOU EVIL PEOPLE. sorry had to get that out of my sistem.
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Zlee
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rating is the only irritating display of stupidity of people here on VR, because it's the only thing you can't ignore, and I say that for many reasons! First of all: Younger members welcoming older?!? then what I really hate is that (no offense) Jehova's Witness "I love you, no matter how I hate you" stand, I mean it's not O.K. to rate someone below 6 because it would be bombing!? C'mon, If my pro sucks give me a hard 1 and say"Your profile sucks to infinity!" and that "nice profile! 10 for you!" what that means? "I gave you 10, now you have to give me 10 too!". And, people, try to remeber that you are rating a profile, not a person who wrote it! Example: I read a profile and conclude that I don't like the mind of that person, but the profile is good, so I rate that pro good no matter the fact that I don't like the person who wrote it. I think that leaving a comment that has no anything with a pro itself is showing disrespect to a person who wrote it (read Thera's post for explanation)

:: puts a fake smile ::
Nice thread DarkAdmin! Welcome to the Rave and 10 for you!



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Bloodsheen
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06:20:18 Apr 30 2005
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no because i do it all the time

anyone who puts forth any effort what so ere desearves a 10

and a very nice at least



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08:40:49 Apr 30 2005
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wow, this was another good topic.i do think we ned a poll....daire i agree with you, and you as well lking4trouble,



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purpledoom
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Doesn't bother *me* too much, of course, if they have more to say they can send a message.

What irritates me, is people who do so, then message, but come to find that they really didn't read your profile at all, any of it, no matter the length. That, just really irks me. Shows really their rate wasn't based on anything at all in the first place, 'cept maybe a picture. -_-



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DarkAdmin
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Outgoing I think you are right about making this topic a poll but how many people read the polls?

I am glad I got a good response from you all on this topic and hope that after people read this they will look at profiles a bit different from now on.



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Flux
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What I find cool is how some previous post(ers) can judge whats good or whats bad for profile greatship "too much content" or "too..." -whatever. kinda like me waking up in the morning and tell my neighbor or passingbyer "hey you dont have my favorite color on today or something on to my taste". Let members be them, and as a commenter let me comment (as I do) Welcome, Greetings or Long winded comments -As a commenter/Rater Let Me Be As Free As A Profiler!
*Bites & Kisses*



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I think Zlee has a point. The scoring system is from 1-10 and we click what number we think the profile/portfolio merits. However, if you click anything lower than an eight it takes a profile rating down, and only a 9 or 10 puts a profile rating up.

So.. why bother with a 1,2,3,4,5, or 6 when 7 takes a rating down anyway?

As for me, unless someone intentionally bombs my profile they all get an eight + because I don't want to take anyone's score down.



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to me it's not about the rating or scoring so much as it is that people actually DO look and read profiles before commenting. It's only the appropriate thing to do.
I just came here to meet people, not status or rating. *shrugs*



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Zlee
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...therefore 8,9,10 should be the only numbers that you can choose from! :)



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Zlee
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...and only "Nice profile!" and "Welcome to the Rave!" should be allowed for comments, if a comment contains any other words it should be momentarily deleted by admins! ;)



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Echo
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I do think that Zlee has a point, and I understand what your saying Emmy... but when I see a profile thats blatantly rude, or theres NOTHING THERE, or as Lking4trouble said, a load of threats, then I do rate the person a 1, as I think that if a profile is to be rated, the overall rating should reflect what the general consensus has thought of their profile.

If a profile is on, lets say a 6, and its just a quiz, I will rate it a 2, and I dont mind if it goes down as a quiz doesn't deserve a six.

Maybe Im harsh, but I think its fair.



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Emaerald
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Well yeah Echo, thanks hunny but I just wish that 5 would of been the middle of road marker since it is half way rather than 8's, as then it leaves more scope for rating profiles. Plus most new people arriving on site do not realise how the present voting system works.



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Echo
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thats a very good point. I sopmetimes forget that I had a profile under another name for the first two months that I was a member (I couldn't access it) so I knew what was expected before I started my account as the Echo you know :-)



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LifeIsKillingMe
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Everyone's so friggen uptight and paranoid these days it's a lot safer and less hassle to just say something short and simple. If you give one little extra adjective in your comment all of a sudden you're "after" someone....



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Echo
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Yeah... but you do have the right to state your own opinion, so in my opinion, I just say what I think and put up with the flack.



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I think it tends to be a bit different for the guys...especially us older guys. But yeah I hear ya.



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Echo
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Sometimes I htinkt hat others htink im being bitchy when I rate a profile down, so I understand your point hun :-)



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Lol...Ok. I think reading some more of these posts has helped me understand the hostility towards short messages. Being newish here I found the welcoming posts to be friendly and welcoming...I sort of assumed that they were all because I have been...new.

I imagine that if I'm here for months/years...and new members are "welcoming" me..it's going to seem pretty ridiculous :-)



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When I rated those on here longer than me I did not say welcome (with the exception of one person and it has since been corrected). I rated their profiles and commented with hello or greetings. I believe that a quick friendly hello is better than not commenting at all. The majority of people that have responded to this post have agreed that it doesn't bother them if they get a short comment to their profile.



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I usually just say welcome to VR but if there is something on their profile that I really like then I'll add in a few more words



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Zlee
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probably because of my english, Emmy got me wrong, I meant If my pro deserves 1 then the person who rates me should give me 1 (unless I'm not below third level) no matter the fact that it would be bombing. I think that rating newbies should be avoided, because they still don't know what counts as a good profile. Maybe it would be a good idea to make the rating of a newbie has the less weight and as you advance in levels to make it more and more significant. My rate as a specter definitly should have significantly more weight then when I was a mosquito!



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it doesn't bother me at all. at least they took the time to rate and write a little something. to me, thats really all that matters



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i don't mind if ppl don't say much when they rate my pro. the important thing is that they said somehting... like hello. it's friendly :)

i may just greet ppl in their pros, but if i really like someting, like slipknot, i write"SLIPKNOT RULES!!!" so that they know i'm also a fan.



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I say welcome to new members and if they leave me a comment i'll review there profile again and leave more.



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CassandraMeloncoly
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to me the 2 word thing is ok but the thing i hate the worst is if someone welcomes you when you have been here for a while



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I AM new and learning. I have commented 'welcome' to many who possess a low status without giving thought or specific notice to profile creation dates - As I said " I AM new and learning (possibly like few or many others) : )soz



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I personally only write a couple of words if any. I don't mean anything bad I just don't like to type.



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wow intresting



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Zlee
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*to forsakengirl*
but if you write Slipknot Rules!!! (it really does! :) ) that means that you took the time to read a persons profile, that's how you know that he likes SK, which is OK, no matter it's two words. I'm only irritated by mindless copy/paste comments. Commenting Slipknot rules!!! means a lot more than welcome to VR, or nice profile!



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Actually Zlee .. the status of a person who is rating does carry more weight when they are rating, Cancer wrote that in to VR like two months or so .. I don't remember the exact time in which he posted it in a Site Update thread .. meaning that a whelp rating carries less "weight" then a Vampling and so on as you go up in higher levels.

Personally I don't mind a one word post, or a twenty word post. The thing that bothers me is people giving a person a low rate just becasue they don't like them, or because their friend doesn't like them. Or those (as mentioned earlier) who rate and send you a message and they are asking you questions that the answers are clearly stated in your profile. Rate what YOU feel a profile is worth, not what someone else thinks ..



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If there is something I like on the profile I try and let them know, I do prefer a comment that shows you have read my profile,



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The pros and cons are quite visible here; many have chimed in on this issue. Now what are you as a member of the rave going to do now? It is all up to you.



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the members will do nothing... nobody will rate seriously. the charts will not function as they should and it'll all go to pot



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Well DA I'm going to rate the same way I always have ..... by added content the more things I get to see in the profile the higher the rating *shrugs*

I do belive I've stated somewhere before that this rating system amused me even more once I got the membership .. becuz I got curious like everyone else .. and checked to see who rated me what for no good reason :) .. it greatly amuses me that people that rated me a 1-3 in past months hurried up and caught up with themselves and went back and rated me a 10 for no good reason other then the fact I think they knew I'd know what they had rated me.... I could care less about my rating ( I haven't known my rating for about 2-3 months now .. just cuz I dont pay attention to it ... gonna haveta go look now cuz I'm curious again)



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Gorey I bet you that because of this topic some will change and others will not. If one person changes then this topic was well worth it. Change does not happen overnight but it can start with one.

Choice is our god given right so what you choose to do is your choice.



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MooniePie
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I am just happy when people leave comments to say they looked at my profile. I could careless about the rating. Its all in fun. I just enjoying making my profile. which is probably why I am always adding something or moving something around.. lol

I normally just say welcome to the rave for people that have joined after me. if I see something in the profile that I like then I will say something. With some profiles they don't have anything on them so I just welcome them. If they update then I will take some time to write more.



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clragonwytch
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in response for being a member, im still going to post the way i always do.



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Echo
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ZLEE-

You point about not rating whelps is one which I have considered. However, when I was new, and my profile had an overall rating of about 5, that made me think “Hold on, whats wrong with it?” and do something about it. If I had go tall 10’s, then I may not have put as much effort in as I did. That was MY way of learning what to put into a profile. If we don’t tell them, they won’t learn as fast. Also, with the ‘Slipknot rules’ comment… it does show that you have read something, and have common ground with someone… so they might message you. BUT that doesn’t always work to your advantage.

For example, I was reading a new persons profile yesterday, and they had put that their home town was a sh*t hole. An awful lot of people put this so I said jokingly If I had a pound for every profile that said they lived in a shit hole, Id be a very rich lady!>/B>

Today I got a rating of 1 and a Ive got news for you, the world IS a sh*thole!

Obviously, they had taken what I had said the wrong way, and given me an immature response in retaliation. Profile ratings are often used to get at people, and as lifeiskillingme mentioned earlier, it is easy to look like you are going after someone.

Gorey and Dark Admin-

I agree, I think a lot of people will ignore this as people being awkward. But if it makes a few people realise what they could do to improve a profile, or why people rate as they do, then it’s well worth it :-)



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Echo
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SOrry, the bold went a bit wrong there :-D



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Zlee
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I know that, but I meant significantly less worth rating. Let the whelps have the feeling of participation, but don't let them affect things hardly, I say that because I fucked up few times when rating pros when I was a whelp, due to my unexperience with the rating system (with Emmy and DB for example, I gave 4 to both of them?!?!).

Why not rating whelps? Well, because they have no time to make a good profile. For example, person created a pro few hours ago and it's almost empty, because a member maybe didn't even saw edit pro link, I see a pro and I will rate him bad (honestly I don't look at the time of creation of a pro) and I berated potentialy good pro!

and I think that maybe is unfair that premies can see how other members rated them, especially master vampires (see Nicni's post), what do you think why memebers who rated Nicni bad changed their ratings now? I mean I dare you to rate Cancer with 1! ;) (hey, maybe that's the contest: Who has the balls to rate Cancer with 1! ;) )


>>Ive got news for you, the world IS a sh*thole!

AMEN!



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clragonwytch
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would he really care if ya did rate him a 1?



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Nicnivian
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umm Zlee They changed there ratings ONCE I got the premium membership ... NOT when I became a moderator ..... what would I do delete them for rating me low .. who cares lol it was there choice I'm sure they had reasons .. hell even some of my LONG time friends on here didnt give me a good rating .. I'm sure they rated me how they saw fit to my profile (WHICH btw I have not changed since I started here .. I added 1 more sentance and a pic or 2.. as I said I don't care about ratings .. they just amuse me **meaning make me laugh**)



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It bugs me more when they rate you low without commenting for no reason.



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yeah it bugs me too ... but I didnt ask them why or how come .... I recived a lot of 1-2-3 & 4's ... once at premie I didnt go and message them and ask them to take another look and re-rate me .. A LOT of people asked me to re-rate them .. why becuz they recived a low # from me cuz they had SQUAT in the profile (long tyme ago I was right caught up with all the newbies and rated them about a week after they joined ... then caught on to my stupidity and waited a bit longer to give them a chance to set themselves up on here) If you ONLY have quizzes I get bored I seriously dont read all of it ..... I give scores out according to content .... if you have a picture theres a point ... if you have a portfolio theres another point ... if you have a journal theres another point ... if you have an amusing quote theres another one ... so 4 there to start of with ... if you wrote ANYTHING I usually gave ya 2-5 (according to how much ya wrote depends on what I gave ya!!)



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Echo
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Iv'e never asked someone to re-rate me. If I get alow rating then fair enough. But if I get an abusive message along with it, thats what I reply to.



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I also agree, some people don't have a lot to say. Saying hello or welcome is fine. Even the big long one s that's cool too. I try to get back to everyone as much as possible when I am on. Rating system is fine also, though gliches happen sometimes or computers freeze.... blah blah.

I also agree with what Echo was saying. Mmhh depends, it all depends. I just like meeting new people when I can, and reading about stuff.



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Some people dont have a profile worth giving more than two words, if I find something that I am interested in, in your profile then I will give a sentence or two other wise........ make a better profile.
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as i said before its due to people sendng messages to other when they don't like what you write send me a message and i will give you a copy of one i just got. this is why it will all ways be one word for me because people don't understand that if you put up a profile or portfoilo it will get rated and you willn't all ways like the answer



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na it dont bother me because some people just dont talk much, no biggie



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celestial589
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It personally does not bug me one bit. as many have said before me, at least they left something. Yeah I would like a little more of a personal hello, but hey some people are not into talking much until they get to know you. give them a chance. You will be surprised alot of them have a lot more to say than "hello and welcome", they just dont want everyone else that visits your profile to read what they wrote. email them. ten to one thay have more to say.



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SoGothicItHurts
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usually i just given 10's to everybody and the i put 2 or 3 words, that way i create mistery and hope for someone to talk to me



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I believe I will continue to rate profiles as I see fit. I usually try to remain judgmental in my ratings, with avg rates between 6-8. I will rate profiles I think deserve it a 9 and I have only given one 10 rating to a member that I honestly thought deserved it ( and no, it wasn't Cancers lol ). I base my rating on the content including journals. I have taken a few of the quizes and know how they can be manipulated, so I DON'T base my ratings on quizes.Sad fact of the matter is; I think a lot of the profiles here are being rated on how many quizes a person can put in their profile.
Personally, I try including an original reply to each profile I rate. This means I only rate a few profiles in any given night ( I think the most I rated in one night was 4 ). Do I mind others leaving one or two word comments? no, not really. Not everyone is going to take the time to come up with something original for every profile. I have even had to do it with a few profiles myself when nothing came to me after an extended time scouring through a profile.



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Zlee
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my point was that those people changed their ratings when they realized that you can see how they rated you, which is the thing I call hipocrisy!

Way of thinking of an average human:"His/her pro sucks, but he's a premie and can see how I rated him and he can rate me bad in revenge, therefore (puts up a fake smile, opens 'rating.txt', CTRL-A, CTRL-C, CTRL-V) there you go:'Hi, nice profile! Welcome to the Rave! 10 for you!' "

On the other hand, way thinking of an average premie (after 368th check of his profile rating in last 2 minutes):"That madafaka rated me with 8!!!! (rates poor non-premie member with 1 without even reading his/her pro)"

that's why I think that a premies shouldn't see how other members rate them. :) :)



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BloodThirst
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Everyone here is right in their own way.....
But no one dares to say the truth about rating profiles and we all know it well.......



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so whats the truth bloodthirst.....????



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To increase one's level here in the Rave



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clragonwytch
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well see that's already wrong because i could care less about the ratings or status



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Emaerald
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Well, for me when I first got a premmy membership I remember feeling a bit gobmacked, and also hurt by the people who did rate low on my profile because they were ones who knew how much work I put into my profile. People who I thought were my friends... and some Adminstrators. Yea the world is a sh*thole at times, but it opens your eyes to the truth.



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Emaerald
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Oh, yea sorry.. I am talking about a 1 rating specifically in the above message. Like Nic, I rate according to content and know anything less than an 8 will take a profile down. I never give a 1 to anyone who has made an effort on their profile..but I have no hesitation giving 1's back to people who deliberately go around bombing profiles, nor do I have any hesitation in speaking my mind about it to them.



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16:20:00 May 02 2005
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It only hurts if you allow yourself to care about such petty things. People are gonna judge you anywhere you go and whatever you do, but if you allow yourself to care then you only ask for pain.



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Emaerald
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16:26:01 May 02 2005
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It was not the pettyness of the rating that hurt but more *who* they came from.



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clragonwytch
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16:33:38 May 02 2005
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i understand that and if only we knew what people really thought of us LOL im sure it wouldnt be something we want to know.



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SimpLesLyDeAd
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16:35:46 May 02 2005
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Yeah sometime it pisses me off.... it depends what they say....



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DarkAdmin
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12:56:33 May 03 2005
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I am surprised how far this post has gotten.



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Moreish
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12:58:58 May 03 2005
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Yes DA So am I...

Oppinuated little bunch we have here!

Nice to see you sexy ass about too baby *winks*



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Moreish
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13:19:29 May 03 2005
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Time to close this little puppy down due to size

DA... you are welcome in my chambers to discuss further *purrrs*



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