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Just a question. Do you believe so? I don't know if there is any but it could be possible. What do you think? (By the way, lycantrophy is the ability to turn into a werewolf, or lycan for some, if you don't know what it is.)

I figured this is the right page 'cause it has to do with vampirism. (And lycantrophy.) So if it's in the wrong page sorry about that.

I guess it could be possible and I say that because in my mind not much is impossible. I dont really think there is though, just because if their were I would imagine that it would have been heard about by somone who had used it. Dunno though.

Oh I have heard of all sorts of "Cures" but sadly most of them are permanant and you never get to stick around to appreciate what a great favor someone did by using one of them on you.

Hmmm....Well according to Van Helsing it would be a stake thru the heart, decapitation, and burning the body.

as far as i know there are many different "cures" if you will but all end in death

From everything i've ever heard there is no cure- well...besides death-
-lover zani

the only place I know of this 'cure' is from the movies, so it's probably crap...

Kill the 'head' vampire

any historical/mythological basis for that one all youe experts?

or has hollywood done it again?

In 1616, Italian scientist Ludovico Fatinelli published his Treatise on Vampires, in which he speculated that vampirism was caused by a microscopic pathogen. He was burned at the stake for heresy. Fortunately, science plowed ahead, undeterred. The information included in this section is the result of the work of countless dedicated men and women.

The Virus

HVV source:
the bat flea
Xenopsylla cheopsis

HVV carrier:
Vampire bat
The source of vampirism is the Human Vampiric Virus (HVV). Like Rabies, HVV belongs to the order Mononegavirales, viruses with a nonsegmented, negative-stranded RNA genome. Viruses in this group have a distinct bullet shape. The virus' natural host is a flea commonly found on cave-dwelling bats, especially the vampire bat. In the most common scenario, a bat which has been bitten by the flea passes the virus on to livestock and humans through a bite.
While in theory HVV infection is possible through any exchange of bodily fluids, transmission occurs through the bite of an infected person in virtually every case.




Stages of the Disease


Electron micrograph of HVV (left);
The virus budding off an infected cell (right)
Stage One: Infection. Within hours of being bitten, the victim develops a headache, fever, chills and other flu-like symptoms as the body tries to fight off the infection. These symptoms can be easily confused with more common viral infections, although the presence of bite marks on the body are usually enough to confirm the diagnosis. This stage generally lasts between six and twelve hours, during which the vaccine is 100 percent effective.




In 1800 France, an infected
woman is given a transfusion of
goat's blood, a desperate, futile
measure to ward off the disease
Stage Two: Vampiric Coma. Within 24 hours of being bitten, the victim will slip into a vampiric coma. During this phase, the pulse slows, breathing is shallow and the pupils are dilated. The large numbers of people mistakenly buried alive while in vampiric comas gave rise to the myth that vampires sleep in coffins. While it is commonly thought that anyone infected with HVV turns into a vampire, in fact only a small percentage of people survive vampiric comas. Generally, the young, the old and the feeble never come out of their vampiric comas and eventually die. The vast majority of people who survive vampiric comas are males between the ages of 18 to 35. Vampiric comas last about a day; the victim usually comes out of the coma the night after its onset. The vaccine is 50 percent effective when administered during Stage Two of the infection: the longer the victim has been in the coma, the less effective the vaccine.


During vampire epidemics,
many victims were buried while
still in a vampiric coma
Stage Three: Transformation. A bite victim who survives the coma will awaken fully transformed into a vampire. An acclimation period follows, characterized by confusion, despondency and paranoia. Most vampires begin to hunt within 24 hours of transformation. The vaccine is of no use at this point.









Part II - Vampire Biology


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The Science of Vampires - Part II
Vampire Biology
A person who comes out of a vampiric coma fully transformed will have undergone a number of major physiological changes affecting the various systems of the body. The information included below is only an overview; for a more detailed account, try two classic texts: Henry Gray's Anatomy of the Vampire and Vesalius' Five Books on the Structure of the Vampire Body.
Brain/Nervous System
A vampire's nervous system is similar to humans and has proven to be their "achilles heel." Injuries to the spinal cord and brain can devastating for vampires. While a vampire's spinal cord and nerves work as before transformation, a number of changes take place in the brain, and that altered brain chemistry goes a long way toward understanding vampire behavior.



Normal brain (left) shows serotonin activity;
vampire brain (right) shows none
serotonin: vampires have much lower levels of this neurotransmitter. In humans, low levels of serotonin trigger aggression and risky behavior. A study of murderers on death row revealed low levels of serotonin in their brains.

dopamine: another neurotransmitter, dopamine induces feelings of well-being. In vampires, it is released during feeding and has a narcotic-like effect. Neural pathways activated in vampires during feeding are much like those found in addicts when using drugs.

circadian rhythms chemical changes in the brain that help us "rise and shine" with the morning light are reversed in vampires.

Sense Organs
Powerful sense organs gave vampires an advantage both in hunting and eluding capture. Sneaking up on them virtually impossible, as they are aware of your presence long before you are aware of theirs.


Normal eye (left); Vampire eye (right)
sight: in vampires, the iris in each eye becomes hyperdilated, giving them what appear to be black eyes. While this iris dilation gives vampires excellent night vision, it renders them effectively blind in daylight. In addition, vampires suffer inflammation of the sclera, making the whites of their eyes appear red.

smell/hearing: both senses are extremely acute, as vampires have double the receptor cells in their noses and ears compared to humans. In fact, vampires usually smell or hear a person coming long before they see one.


Hair, skin, teeth, fingernails
Part of the terror of encountering a vampire stems from dramatic changes to their outer appearance. Some of these changes are functional, while others remain a mystery.


The upper (l) and lower (r) eyeteeth
experience rapid growth
Teeth: during vampiric coma, the upper and lower eyeteeth experience growth. Additional enamel is deposited on the crown of the tooth. Vampires will file the teeth to make them sharper for easier feeding.
Hair: vampires lose all their bodily hair within ten years of transformation (except for the tiny hairs in their ears, known as cilia).

Skin: a newly-transformed vampire has a sickly, pale yellow skin tone that turns to blue over the next few days. In time, the skin becomes more and more translucent, and a fine network of veins become visible under the skin.

Fingernails: vampire fingernails thicken and grow at a rapid rate. Vampires will file their nails to a point, which helps them in grabbing victims.
Circulatory System
The most profound differences between humans and vampires are found in the circulatory system. These differences enable vampires to survive massive trauma that would kill a human being.


Blood: vampire blood is called ichor (pr. ik-er). Modifications to hemoglobin in the blood cells makes vampire blood appear black.

the Heart: vampire blood is pumped via the contraction of skeletal muscle rather than the heart, which eventually atrophies from disuse.

adrenaline: this "emergency hormone," which normally kicks in during "fight or flight" situations, is found in consistently large amounts in vampire blood. The presence of adrenaline, along with changes in muscle, bone and connective tissue, account for vampire's extraordinary strength, speed and aggressiveness.


Seen through night vision,
a vampire attacks its prey
Body Temperature
A vampire's core body temperature is only about 60 degrees, compared to over 98 degrees for humans. This marked difference proved to be a great help for modern vampire fighters, as it made vampires easily distinguishable from humans when viewed through heat-sensitive infrared imagery (note the difference between the vampire and human in the picture at right).
Muscular/Skeletal System
Adaptations in their skeletal and muscular systems give vampires significant advantages over humans.


Muscles/Connective Tissue: about 90% of vampire muscles are of the fast-twitch variety (compared to 50% for the average human). Fast-twitch muscles enable short bursts of maximal force, ideal when hunting prey. Also, vampire ligaments and tendons thicken in response to the workload imposed upon them by the muscles.
Skeletal system: vampire bones thicken, an adaptation necessary to support their newly-powerful muscles.

Aging and Life Expectancy
While no vampire on record has ever died of natural causes, vampires do undergo an aging process, just not in the same way as humans. Vampires do not age on a molecular/genetic level, but their life of hunting and eluding capture creates tremendous wear and tear in the form of injuries to bones and tissue.


A 125-year old vampire
photographed in Spain, 1901
Note the curved spine and
lack of hair
Because they presented such a danger to society, most vampires were destroyed long before the outer limits of their life span were determined. Ancient history offers some clues, however. In Ancient China, there was said to be one vampire in the emperor's court through the entire (eastern) Zhou Dynasty, which would put his age at 550. More accurate modern records have certified vampires of over 200 years old.

Contrary to the opinions of many theologians, vampiric longevity is not the result of some pact with the devil, but rather an ability to ward off the DNA damage that occurs during cell division in normal humans. Specifically, the protective caps on the ends of chromosomes known as telomers get chewed up over time in humans, but not in vampires.

Though their DNA may have the ability to resist aging, a vampire's appearance will change dramatically over time. Vampires lose all of their hair within 10 years of transformation. Over time, a vampire's fat stores shrink away and its skin becomes thinner and more transparent, giving it a withered, dried appearance. Aging also leaves vampires with a pronounced curvature of the spine.

Despite their rather feeble appearance, older vampires are still extremely powerful and agile. Many a vampire hunter has made the mistake of underestimating them.



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hum well i think once ur in u cant leave it hooks u in and wont let u leave

Fascinating description of an "Immortal", has anyone any research for the more normal garden variety vampire? Say the ones like MB and Father Todd?

A cure... If genetic, there is no cure. If otherwise. Death, unless one wants to go on a scouting trip for many a decade to find some sort of treatment or vaccine.

I love that site...

http://www.fvza.org

Well...I can not say with any real certainty that there would be a cure...The only real cure that I have ever seen suggested is death...and that doesn't seem like a very praticle cure...oh, I like the little bit of info up there LordOfNoctemAeternus

One Vampiric energy or syliva is in you there is no way to make yourself normal again in my opinion. Same with a Lycan.

are we talking about the cure of mythological creatures?

First of all it depends in which type of vampires and lycans do you refer.Not everyone sees them the same.

Then we heard a lot of legends and myths about these things.However none is scientifically proven even tough people can believe in them or say they saw them.

However my favorite site on werewolves is this:

http://members.tripod.com/alam25/

I believe that vampirism and lycanthropy are like gangs- once your in, the only way out is death. I believe this because both conditions will forever follow you until the day you die (or destroyed) and there simply are no cures for either conditions.

as far as i klnow of, neither had been found to have a cure..their is medicine and treatments to help with the conditions..to keep them under control and to help slow the process from over taking a person..but both are still somewhat of a mystery to doctors..
hell, they have even tryed blood transfusions to no success..(i have had it done to me when i was a baby..thanks to my condition)

I know many years I've hidden what I am and believe, thanks to a wiccan I don't now. So if it is a cure, I think I speak for all when I say who cares. If it means being human again, why would you want that. Whether vamp or wolf, I'm better off releasing my wolfish nature.

During the time of my awaking, I use to read alot on both subjects. From what I understand, both are uncurable disease that get worse over time. But of course those are the illness, of some of the older legends.

I have to say that I have really enjoyed this thread. I believe that there isn't any cure for Lycanthope or Vampirism. I like the previous thought, "That it is like being in a gang" At the same time, how many that would want to have a cure?

In researching Non-European Vampires (artivles available in the site section marked Member's Articles, under the listing Non-European Vampires I and II) I found mention of curing one type of vampire. Here is an excerp from my article......

Unlike other vampiric afflictions, the Aswang can be cured. Native healers known as mananambal can force the Aswang to drink special potions that will cause the demon to be expelled. It is said that the victim will vomit many strange things, some of them being cited as eggs and whole birds.

You can read the rest of the article to get a more informative view on this.

I can't really say of any cures but killing them by driving a stake through their hearts and letting them die but thats all I can come up with

LordofNoctemAr(something), I enjoyed reading your post. I've never heard of that and it was extremely informative. However, it leads to the idea that there are different types of vampires. There are those with the subtle-body condition, and there are those concerned in your post. The general consensus seems to be that there is no cure for the vampire. Death only destroys the physical body, so the vampire need only wait to be reincarnated.

I suppose if the person is desperate for death then they can find a cure that goes that. But to find one and be able to remain among the living...there's no chance.

I once read about crystals and filtering human blood through light into the aura. I'll have to think about where I read it and get back to you. Was probably a fictional book with wishful thinking.

I would have to say death is the only cure. I wish it wasn't but I can't see there really being a cure for such things, not for a loooong time to come.

i'm a vampire and i like just tha way i am.

im a once bitten forever damned person...there is no cure!

Once awakened into the condition of true vampyrism you can never become unawakened. You can deny your predator the energy the body needs to survive, yet after some time you will get very sick and weak. Eventually your predator will take over in a subtle manner and find a mean to feed.

As for Lycanthorpy, I believe you mean the condition of Otherkin or Therian. No, that is just like Vampyrism, just your not vying for life energy, your spiritualy some sort of animal or mythical animal. I do not know much of the Therian or Otherkin stuff, yet from what I do know, you don't activly turn into something like a wolf or a dragon.

- Sin

I don't know of any known cure for Vampirism only what the media says will kill them. Stupid people -.- any ways, as for lycanthropy i know that Wolfsbane (monkswood) will slow the process and maybe even stop the transformation in to a lycan if it is given at the right dose.

Uh... all the cures seem to result in death...

So I'm assuming a good way to get rid of either disease is simply to kill yourself.

i suppose that depends on how you see it... your making it sound lie a disease of some sort. If thats what you believe then I suppose that some people may want to find a "cure" but maybe it is a heightened state of mind...

hmmn but for vampirism wat bout blood transfusion i think i watched that some where (vampires 2..i think) i think it worked then so maby i may work wat us think???

oh am for lycantrophy wat about wolfsbane??? or will it increase the wolf like in ginger snaps???

i suppose it all depends on experimentation and what you believe.

To answer that question I'd rather see someone turn in front of my eyes. Maybe then I was foolish enough to give an answer.

How many times must it be stated that death does nothing to stop vampirism? When the physical body is destroyed, the astral body waits on the otherside until it is reborn. Death will not cure a vampire!

most likely not

I would not WISH a cure!! No, there ARE diseases such as warmongering which REALLY need a cure.

*Laughs*

As of right now I dont think there is a cure in the late future maybe.......

Perhaps if someone knew enough about the subtle body, they could find some way to change the structure, but i don't see that happening anytime soon.

To many are searching the net.
Sounds like we need a good olde fashion Gypsy. They always come up with something.

Then there are shapesifters in parts of the world. Anybody knows of a good Shaman?

I love to get stuff right from the source.

Ok, this might sound like a dumb question, but... how can someone call death a "cure?" To "cure" something is to make it better, to bring back health - and to my way of understanding, death does not bring back health! LOL

In the Vampire: The Masquerade ethos, there was a character of the clan Tremere who was named St. Germain.

His goal, as a man (sorceror) made vampyre, was to travel the globe seeking the cure to turn them back- as all things have their natural opposite, why not a reversal process for vampyrism?

Alternatly, what I have been investigating is the use of hypnotherapy, due to the implication that a vampyre awakening is a period of self-realisation, could the event be somehow blocked mentally?
(which could then project the same block into the subtle realm of energetic existence as all events have their resonant effect there)

very possible

but i highly doubt it

and if tey did dont you think some people would have already heard about it

They attack as living lycanthropes do, with the same amount of damage, but their touch also drains one point of constitution. Their bite transmits lycanthropy, although a cure disease from a priest of 12th or higher level will cure the condition as usual. Victims who survive the attack do not become undead regardless of whether or not they contract lycanthropy. Those slain by them will rise from the dead as a form of free-willed zombie, still subject to decay, rotting over the course of weeks until becoming a sightless, helpless skeleton without the connective tissue necessary to move.

Interesting STABB. I have the game but my computer doesn't have enough memory so I can't play it. Best the computer could do is the main menu. lol

bloodlovingvampire, you're right saying that people should've heard of it. But sometimes there are things that are so rare, maybe only a few people know about it. Funny question here; if the few know about it, shouldn't they tell everyone? No because then vampires would know about it and might get rid of it.

To use hypnotherapy to block the mental realization? That would only stop one from realizing their talents, not utilizing them. Prior to awakening, a vampire uses their skills unconsciously, which is more dangerous than using them consciously. Just a thought.

Ok Scion of requiem said what i was thinking so I am going to leave the vamprie thing alone.. But I wanted to add my two sense on Lycanthrop...

I have a hard time with this. This is funny last night I watched CSI and the episode was based on a brother and sister that were born with the condition.. but it is medically called something else.. i have been trying to remember what it was called.. damn it.. Oh well.. With the reality of lycanthropes I did some research and wanted to post my findings...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_Lycanthropy

No cure for vampirism...Thank the human's God

i don't know wether to say they don't or they do? cause to be honest i really think there can be a cure if it was ever to come across it. so yea i guess there can be. HELL! they got cures for alot of thing so why not think that might not be anything possble

if you go to awitch doctor and ask them to remove the curse they might be able to and also now days theres cures for every thing but all i know is either witch doctors shamans or death

They don't have cures for AIDS or cancer yet. Just treatments that helps you instead.

it might be kind of hard to come up with a cure...whoever tried to would really be risking their reputation, because so many people don't believe, so their resources would be kinda limited...

LaMuerte,

This is where I am curious about the concept.

In order for one to come into a conscious awareness of what they are doing, they need that singular moment of self realisation to occur. There is always a 'point of no return', as it were, with the awakening (from what I understand of it) and so, what would it take for that point to remain unreached?

An analogy of what I think you are saying is like damming a river. Eventually, it would flood to a point where it begins to seep out in uncontrolled ways.

So, what it those leaks were reinforced?

It's all a bit fluffy, but I think that it may be worth considering, though, while not a cure, it's more of a preventative measure- what if the hypnotherapy can hold long enough for the mind to pass beyond a point of no return in the other direction, preventing a 'critical mass' of undertanding perhaps?

Could it be possible for a potential vampyre to be prevented from awkening in their current incarnation through manipulation of the Psyche?

Is the question I am asking.

There is a cure. It's called death. But, if you mean a cure for you to both be rid of the virus and stay alive......I'm afriad not yet. But I have assurences from my medical staff that they are close to a cure.

i dont really think it dose ivv read a lot on the subject and nuthing exsept the cheep holywood versions there are no cuers

As someone mentioned before, death is not a cure. If anything, I believe that even if you die, you'll stay a vampire/werewolf. A cure is healing and removing any viruses that you have.

I'm not lycan but am vamp...I don't need a cure as I'm not sick, I don't have a disease. My skills are just that, skills......and am quite happy with said skills thanks very much.

well lycantrophy is an issue where you just believe that u are a werewolf, not that u are so you can cure it by going to therapy. Vampirism is a totally different story....

I don't think lycantrophy is a mental issue though. Isn't it the same as vampirism? When you get bitten you turn into a werewolf?

Both situations could be real, and, like any spreadable disease, I do believe that can be cured. But, like any other "medical" treatment, sometimes you can choose not to be cured... And for the others, we, humans, are the disease.

I guess it is entirely possible, but why would anyone want to stop being like us? I guess that is my opinion....

Unconscious psychic vampyres are usually a pain, as they don't realize what they are doing and make no effort to control their feeding.

Humans fear it as a curse Ravyn. That's why.

I heard about amulets, and even exorcisms, but I think that both Stabbb and LaMuerte make very good points: On one side, death does not end the subtle body, like you so well put.
On the other hand, if there's a way to "block" the need for energy (pranic, sanguine, etc), I think that, like stabbb said, it would get to a point where the condition would return.
Lycanthrophy is still one of my great passions, may it be by the phsychological and clinical aspects, may it be by the concept of being bound to an animal - in the case of lycan, the Wolf, of course-.
I don't think it's a question of having a cure or not, because to many people seem fascinated with their "powers" to even think about it, and the medical comunity doesn't take it seriouslly enough to even pay more attention to the conditions then to psychosis...
Like Echo said, when it's a state of mind - which I'm more inclined to think it also is-, why would one want to be cured? Why would one want to expose it so someone, in terror, would try to find a cure?
I don't think there can be a cure to a spiritual and not-only spiritual condition, because I believe there are people that are born with a low level of vital energy and are drown to seek the one they naturally miss, nor lycanthrophy (that many times is confused with hypertricosis).
The most important thing is to know who you are, and know what you want to do with the energetic abilities that you were born with.
Just my 2 cents.

Gypsies seem to have a way of curing lycanthropy:

http://www.larp.com/neroatl/sharnhorste/severa/lycanthropy.html

http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/byzantium/55/lycan.htm#

First of all my respect to the answer of LordOfNoctemAeternus. He showed that he has a bright knowledge about a lot of things.
Now to what I know although it is not that much. as much as I know from myths there arent any possibilities to heal vampires or lycans but to kill them. But like someone said before, it is said that amulettes who protect the human from becoming a lycan at fullmoon.
I didnt hear about a cure from vampirism only in some cheap vampire movies and in the exciting books of anne rice.
once lestat becomes a human again and then he tries to regain his vampiric side. thats all I know.

from what i have always heard is that once u are a vampyre or lycan. that is it. there is no turning back, the only release from vampyrism and lycantrophy is death.

I still say your a vampire or lycan anyways. Even in death. Is a curse you can't escape unless you "somehow" get rid of it.

i think trying to find "cures" for things is like not accepting yourself for whom you are. Who knows...perhaps aliens are responsible for tampering with the genes and dna of certain species. Who's to say that vampyres need a cure? Maybe they have a reason for existing just as all people and all of Earth's odd creations.
As for Lycans, I am a close friend to some and they never claim to turn into "werewolves". It's a totally different thing to Lycans. I believe it's the soul that taps into certain animals spirits and theirs happen to be the wolf for whatever reason that may be. Again, this is just an opinion, nothing i can prove.

I dont know if theres a cure for being a vampire. I think its in the mind of the beholder. I have chosen to be the way i am, and I wont change for nobody.

I would not want my dark gift 'cured' but the only cure I know is death...

personally I dont know if there is one or not but if there is then such a cure should be able to be changed abit so as to cure other therianthorps of any kind....just saying what on my mind you know

there is no cure for a gift

ever watch the skeleton key? I kinda believe its like that.
Hoodoo and Voodoo is very much real, but it doesnt work if you dont believe.
I honestly think its the same with anything dealing with mythology.

I believe that to be able to find a cure you need first the decease, is vamp and/or lycan a decease? If it where we would then need to ask, is this decease rea? if it was all of it true and it were a decease then I would be pretty sure to be found.

I have less trouble believing in vampyres than I do lycanthropes.

I don't feel that the two are related in any way, beyond their connection to the night.

I can be open to accepting Lycanthropy as a virus, after all, nature makes some amazing transformations- just looking at butterflies alone amazes me...

But I see vampyrism as more of a spiritual problem. Something which is inherited from the previous incarnation. Not a disease of the body, not even one of the soul. More of a 'seperation' from the universal soul which is God and so, they require the life force of humans, who still retain that link, in order to survive spiritually throughout the ages of their existence at a higher plane of being.

you defiantly have a good point STABB666
A disease or virus affects the body or mind. I dont believe awakening to vampryism affects the body that much, its more of a spiritual thing.

Vampirism? Not sure.

Lycanthropy? Oh god..

PEOPLE!!! Lycans do NOT shift their forms! They do not grow fur, or howl at the moon!

How do i know?

I have a bleeding lycan as a roommate.. He has never shifted in my prescence, nor does he have fangs.

Sure, he gets rowdy during certain lunar phases, and hungers for red meat, but..

Lycans are not beings who can shift and that grow fur.

Honestly - Have you seen a Lycan with your own eyes?

*stares at the article stunned*

I KNEW that bastard who diagnosed me was a fucking loony...

Thanks for posting the url.

Ok, I haven't posted to this thread in a while, but I feel that Science and technology can't and won't find a cure for either of these "conditions".

Vampirism and Lycanthropy are ancient and mythical conditions, that can't be cured by simply embracing a faith in the modern world, and now may Lycans and Vampires do you know that want a cure?

Instead, the cure needs to come from the mythical, spriitual, or ancient history standpoint. Now as for postings as to whether either vampires or Lycantropes are rea. well lets not all take it personally, it is really going to come down to what you believe. I feel that there is much out there that we as a race have know is real, but society says itsn't. Now many people know for a fact that demons, ghosts, or bigfoot are real? Would you want to tell them they are wrong?

Not as meant an insult, but I find it amusing that in these categories of creatures only the most commonly known and accepted are mentioned. Not so much of a, "some people believe that Leprechauns, Talking Mushrooms, and Goblins are real, why would you want to tell them they're wrong?"

Well, nothing wrong with those beliefs, nothing at all. :)

- D

I do not beleive there is a cure for either...

MRD, Great point, that is just what I am saying. "Just because you haven't seen it, doesn't mean its fictional. In ages past, all of these creatures that we speak of were seen as real, and only "the Modern world" and some major religions (won't use names) tried to teach people that they are false. Now it seems that we have come back in our own. It is not wrong to have belief in these things. Back to the cure though, how many people would want one, and how would something from science cure somthing that is not supposed to exist?

It's quite simple then really. Science cannot cure it at all, as science discards the belief in the supernatural..as it cannot be physically or mathematically tested with any basis in reason(numerology dosen't count here). I think it's been established pretty well among most others here, that if it is more than a psychological occurence, it is more rooted in energy and spirituality. As we've already covered the biological question.

As for who would want to "cure" it, I really don't see why. If anything it is an addition to the mundane that fufills a good many people. Even if the cup is filled with Hocus Pocus...that's not for me to decide for anyone else though.

- D

Lol.. I agree as well..

This girl, who was so gullible, was told that if she didn't do something, then a walking sausage would kill her as she slept..

She believed it, but i think she may have been slightly retarded..

If someone really wants a cute one can be found. But it has to be based on changing the energy of said person, and would be different for each person. Science (at least at this time) can not affect the change. If and when science again recognizes and learns to work with the energies that make up the human form and all other "supernatural" beings they might have a chance at it. But for now it would take a very strong spiritual guide/teacher/leader to help a person affect such a chance.

Death? lol..

I still have to say that there really isnt.. unless you die.. but vampirism and lycantrophy are more of a spirtual thing, so would death even cure it?

Death will not cure it. It is in their energy not they physical form. When the physical form dies the energy goes on. The only cure is to cleanse it from the energy.

Do you think its possible to clear something like that out of the energy though?
Vampirism makes the person who they are, not as a whole, but it defiantly weighs alot

If the person really wants to I do think it can be done. It would not be easy at all and you are right it is very much a part of who they are and they would change in the process. But I do think it can be done. I woujld only suggest it for someone that really can not live with it. And only if it was one of the first few lifetimes they have lived with it. The more lifetimes the more it is ingrained in the energy and harder to seperate.

I also think that a person has some choice in whither or not they become one too, if they are aware of things enough when they are exposed to it. I have been exposed to both vampire and werewolf and if I had not shielded from those energies I could have become either or both. But it was my choice to not.

I think I can agree with u, lol. Itd be a long and hard process, but defiantly benefical to a few out there.
But not many I know of would actually want to be cured of this "condition" that we`re in.
O.o if you dont mind me asking (I know its a bit off subject, sry) but what one did you choose? Or did you choose both, if thats possible.

Actually you can be both or even more than two. But that is a total different conversation. LOL For some idea go read my profile.

Personally I chose to be neither. I attract enough immortals as what I am already. LOL

i think the movie Ginger Snaps Back might have been on to a cure for lycans. i believe she was using wolvesbane or monkshood to inject into herself to stop herself from changing. that mght work possibly now if i could do some research with a lycan i could probably let you know for sure. as to vampires i don't believe there is a cure of any sort.

real life lycantrophy... they dont really change into big hairy unmanageable creatures.
I dont think we should try to take cures from movies... because.. theyre fictional.
I mean, thats like saying to kill a vampire, stab them in the heart with stake.. hm, if you stabe ANYONE in the heart with a wooden stake, theyre bound to die.

i believe that death is the only cure... Vampires(most) chose to live that way and there for there has been no reason to come up with a cure...

There is no way to 'cleanse' vampirism from one's energy as it isn't a 'taint', but is a condition. The energy body has become separated from the source that revitalizes everyone else. If we could find that source, we might be able to reconnect ourselves, but would you really want to?

I believe death doesnt even cure it, sure it kills the body, but it doesnt kill the soul and/or spirit.
And no, no I wouldnt want to find a cure anyways, I like myself for who I am.

do you think they are caused by a virus or such, or by magick or such?

I do not belive that there is a cure for either of them...you could die...but thats not really a cure.

number one i meant changing as in the mental state not physical and monkshood/ wolvesbane has always been an old world cure for lycanthropy. i just stated the maybe that movie was on to something without taking the whole thing literally.

well ther probably wouldnt be a cure do to the fact that you are basicly dead and the cure would be to die

hmm intriguing this thread has peaked my interest. why do you want a cure?

well vampirism I think is genetic...so I guess in that aspect..someday...hell they get millions to study genetic problems for "Jerry's Kids"

And lycantrophy is just a name for a meditative state that Indians and other tribes and cultures all over the world use to "summon" the spirit of any animal.

So I guess if they just stopped doing that.
that would cure them

If one is a TRUE vampire, you cannot change that.... deal with the differences

To my knowledge you can not catch like a disease, vampirism it is a state of mind.

You don't catch it, but rather more like a genetic difference.

y would u want to go back?

first off...you make it sound like to be one of these is a disease or something...secondly with that said..no it is a way of life....and 3rd it in my opinion can go either way...being so can also be a curse....and curses can be taken away...but why in the hell would you want to go back to being normal?

Death is another step in the cycles of rebirth. To think that death is a cure is not correct in my thoughts, as was stated above it is instead only another stage in the process.

I do not look upon the genetic makeup of vamps and lycans to be "diseased" but instead the changes that have been made are evolved structural changes that have constituted the condition which in man's lack of understanding appears as a disease.

Is there a cure for evolution? Though the thought that anything is possible, it would appear that some things are improbable.

nah, i dont think there's a cure. but i think that's because vampirism is really a lifestyle choice... and how does one cure a lifestyle choice?

well im not sure there could be but why would you care, it is wonderful being like this

There are myths of cures, amulets, potions, excetera. However I do not believe that there is a true cure to either supernatural lives.

if born no if turn yes

I'd personally like to see someone come up with a cure for "normalcy". Ugh.

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