On tv or books it says that if a vampire drinks another vampires blood they get a deeper understanding of them what do you people think about this . Is it true or is it not ?
I wish... in my experience (... which isn't much) this doesn't happen.
I've never heard that.
But if you think about it logically, it isn't likely is it, really.
No i dont think it is eather but would be cool if it was...
my dear you are so close to finding the trueth............all you have to do is look deeper into the meaning of drinking from one vamp to the other
hugs and cheers
Their is no need to be like that it was only a question and if you did not see i put that i also do not belive in this
if a vampire drinks another vampires blood they I think that vampire does learn more. He discovers the othres secrets and memories. Also, maybe learn more knowledge that the other knows.
I dont think its so much of an understanding as more of a mental linking or type of dream fasting
I'm pretty sure the idea stems from a physical or psionic bond that can be formed in the sharing of energy or life blood. It seems that if blood drinking is in large part more symbolic of the psionic feeding that is taking place, and if the connection in the energy were strong enough, that some of the donor or 'victim' memories, personality, or immediate thougts could be felt or understood better by the vamp.
There's always those times without even 'feeding' when you can look at someone in a very emotional or heightened state of awareness and know more about them just by 'seeing' more of their reactions and expression. Feeding could take that to the next level but I believe there would have to be intent in order to see it.
It is not the blood... it is the life energy. And as mentioned before me, you can learn about others from passing energy. I'm, of course, talking about real modern day vampires. Not the stereo typical "T.v. vamps"
Velvet Rose - but the blood could be a catalyst for something deeper correct? One could have energy transfer during a blood feeding and not be aware that your were feeding and connecting on energy...right?
Yes, I meant the blood is energy, and it is a possibility that one does not know it is the energy that gives them the power instead of the blood...
I do not think this is so. Books and TV are full of stereotypes.
Wait... are you talking about the original post or our current conversation?
Hehe like a drive by posting eh?
Completely agree...the blood is a catalyst or vehicle for jumpstarting what is in fact an energy process.
IMO, it depends. If it is just a drink and leave thing, where you do not know, nor do you really care to know the donor, then no, you won't understand them any more. But if it is something you connect with on a deeper level, yes, you will. Basically imo, it depends on the emotions involved.
I do not take energy or blood from another person, however when i connect with them in a personal manner, I get a flood of information about them. I am a psychic who can tell u there are many ways that this information can be obtained however the person has to have an open mind and not fearful of what u may find out. When a person puts up a block due to fear of revealing certain aspects of their life, it is almost impossible to learn anything from them, even with spoken words.
I believe your in conection so it's an intant access or connection two wil have with each other, like sex. A connection and oneness and you learn more and take in each other
I disagree with you Ari, but to not pull the post off topic, we can take it a mesage :P
i think that you can gain more of an understanding but it is through transferring energies not sucking blood...
sucking the blood of another vampire is like a passionate thing to learn and gain energy and to feel and taste them... but not really gain knowledge and power...
I may be wrong yet the only way to get to know someone and have a better understanding of them is ~~ the old way talk~ and socialize with them to get where they are coming from ~~ don't think blood drinking has anything really to do with it~~ Just my opinon~~ :)
I don't really think you get a deeper understanding of them. I've had experiences where continual bloodletting with the same person has caused a sense of empathy or a feeling of closeness to the person...
Well being that it is TV and Books it is a perception and a hype to get you to watch that perticular show or buy that perticular book. Soooo...unless your talking of someone who has done actual research on real Vampires, then I am not sure there is any truth to it at all.
i think it helps 2 vampires have a closer spiritual bound
the understanding does not actually come fro mthe act of blood drinking itself... but comes more from the shring of energy and the contact of the aura, which holds what is inside the person :)
I agree with redrose on this subject you can not always believe books or tv.
the TV is not always accurate but it is possible. I think we should do a series of tests to find out.
I don't think it's true but....I think there should be some tests to see...
the TV is not always accurate but it is simply not possible, if it´s was true, the world would be a totally far out place now. well it is, but not because of this ;)
it´s a myth.......
Drach - admittedly the use of the TV as an example was probably a poor choice for this thread but the idea is there nonetheless and is just shown most widely in fiction (tv, books, movies). I don't believe that anything is completely impossible but I do think that there would be an underlying reason (the energy so often spoken of already) for a sharing of thoughts, emotions, or memories.
Still, I think it's important to point out that there are always moments of great passion or fear or love wherein we seem to know what someone close to us is thinking or feeling. Is that just an overdeveloped sense of observation or has some deeper connection taken place? And if those are a deeper connection, couldn't that same connection take place with something as highly charged as a feeding?
Im not a blood drinker but I do know that when I connect with someone...if its strong enough, I can see places they've been that mean something to them.
I believe that in any circumstance where one person is emotionally attached to another person, be it "parent's telepathy", twin telepathy, lover's telepathy and so on...we are predisposed to feeling the object of our affection's emotions, understanding thier thoughts, and perhaps even sharing in thier memories because we are "vibrating" on the same wavelength. Which again falls more under the empath, or psy vampirism, but I feel that in order for that type of vampirism to work, both parties must be emotionally involved and empathetically connected in some way.
Lovers "feed"off of eachother's energy, twins feel when the other gets injured, and mothers can her her child crying from across town...emotion, a connection enables us to feed off of one another in that manner successfully...
I belive it is true.My mom said she could feel when I fell down the stairs at two years old.
im gonna have to say no you dont learn things from drinking the blood of another vampire...get stronger yes...if you drink another vampires blood you take some of their power and your power increases...but this only works with vampires that are stronger then you...i do beleive...i could be wrong but as far as i know thats how it goes...
as far as i know, i dont think ive heard of this anywhere other than films and such, in underworld the last remaining head vampire was able to collect memories and feelings from drinking other vampires blood, but as for it happening in the real world....ive never heard of it.
Well it was believed by some older cultures if you ate part of your enemy you took on part of his spirit..Anything is after possible why not this as well
fiction_ i thought vampires don't drink other vampire's blood because they are dead and vamps don't get what they need in the blood of a vamp. they need life and warmth and they can't get it from another vamp so what is the point of drinking their blood.
Ya.. that takes place in Underworld. =P Not real life.
Or we'd have vamps as all our psyciatrists and heads of state. Instantly knowing the issue or problem to be adressed.
I love the "you are what you eat comment" :o) not only is it cute, but probably half true....years ago I had heard on a talk show about someone who had gotten a heart transplant (ok, not quite the same thing) but the transplantee acquired some attributes, personality traits and memories of the donor....I just thought this was so bizarre, so maybe drinking someone else's blood could produce the same results....interesting supposition, this thread !
It would seem there's really only one way to find out and the only ones who've hinted at such experience seem awfully mum on the subject.
It is all a matter of perception. I dated a psychic vamp once and he would drain my energy so often that he knew any secrets I had kept from him. It caused a lot of fights, lol.
Dark Greeting's,Not in my expierence,but I believe a take a part of that person into myself.Like indiginious people believe everything they kill/eat they take a part of that animal's soul and heart esence into them.
Dark Blessing's,
KA
NO! It is something authors and sleezy hollywood people come up with, I have never experienced it for sure, since I live in what we call the real world ;-)
Look, I can understand your curiousity about books and movies beeing similar to the real world, but I can assure you they are not.
well, that seems like it would only fit together in real life if we truly lived for hundred...thousands of years.
Greetings to all ... ::bows gracefully:: ...
I shall echo our brother, the Lord Felix! ... And I support his position ...
Personally, I have "felt" more of the person and can resonate with their energies, but even moreso when I have tasted of their blood ... wether they be Vamp or Donor ... I have a tighter/closer connection ...
My expereicne is NOT reflected in the scenes designed by Hollywood or the Anne Rice's of the world ... memories and/or events do not flash before my eyes ...
Also, I echo another statement made earlier in this thread ... many cultures throughout the world and history have consumed some part of a fallen enemy in order to take on some attribute of that person ...
I think the statement posed earlier, "Thou art what thou eat!" ... is hilarious ... :-)
::Bows respectfully:: .....
LORD RHIAKATH
While TV and books grossly exaggerate and play many aspects of Vamparism, I personaly believe it is possible to establish that kind of connection through psy or blood feeding, if both are actively seeking that connection.
Vamparism already effects most of us on a spiritual level. Some carry it through different lifetimes. Thus, they take it with them when the move on. Obviously it affects many on a mystical and pyschic level.. that being the case already, who would say then that memories, thoughts, emotions could not be?
With all the mysteries of the blood, body, spirit, and mind that have yet to be discovered.. I could not say no it is not possible. With the many things that we have already found to be possible, I feel that this is not beyond the scope of reaching.
yes,i think u do because there blood is in ur system u understand whats going on and why,its like a computer....it dosent understand internet unless internet is installed right? well think about a vampire installing another vampires blood into there system.....
I have never heard that and think it is just another way books and TV screw people up.
I don't think it's in the blood itself, but the intimacy of bloodletting. A person bears their essence into you, lets go of all inhibitons, and, because of that, I believe you can sometimes read their inner most thoughts and memories. All of us have psychic capabilities and sharing of blood only amplifies that psychologically, but as they say "It's all in your head."
Just TV and books stereotyping....personal experience included...
here wait, now that i think of it, i have seen this in a movie before, but only one.
in underworld...and that is like, the most fictional movie i have ever seen...so i would deffinately have to say that its not true...lol
When a vapire drink blood of another vampire it is a way of transfer memory... like at PS and Flash port USB, like DNA at all living thing in the world... but vapires transfere not just jeneral info but everyfing that they lived, felt or other filings...sorry for English
I, for one, do not believe it's possible to transfer full memories to another through the blood. I have been known to be wrong, but I just can't see this as possible. Mayhaps vague impressions, but full blown memories?
I keep seeing one or line responses.. and I wonder where the discussion part comes from?
I keep reading other posts, where many believe that blood is a lifeforce... a form of energy that can be transfered or manipulated.
Add to this reincarnation.. past lives. If you are remembering a past life today..then you are obviously taking your energy, lifeforce, with you from lifetime to lifetime... body to body.
So why would it not be possible to draw or give ones emotions, or past memories to from one to another?
I would love to have an actual discussion on this.
so does that mean that you think that every thing that is you I mean just your personaltiy is built up in your DNA.
and that a creature that needs to feed on blood can well tast the inner you or would even think about you or another of their own kind ?
interesting then why can we all see it under a microscope.
if this was so then any animale that drink human blood would have are meantal capcity
Thats not what I said at all.
Note.. you cannot see your spirit/soul under a microscope either.
I am talking here about Mysticsm. ( I dont think I spelled that right).
I am talking about the POSSIBILITIES of being able to convey thoughts, emotions, maybe even memories through blood or energy exchange. Note that I said possibilities.. not firm belief?
Funny you mention animals. Many mammals traverse the entire globe to find their mating and breeding grounds. Where one breeds, isnt always where they birth, or feed on a regular basis. This "instinct" if you will.. is born to them.. imbredded into their DNA throughout thousands of years. Do you see that under a microscope? you dont see it in their dna.. its just there.
well i believe that if a vamp drinks from another vamp they will get all the knowledge of the other
i think its probably myth ,but would bring a nive closeness between the two i think
I personally don't think that one has to do with the other. I don't see a connection.
Oh well it is still entertaining for them!
Blood contains every nutritions you eat drink from,it helps to transfer to whatever your body parts need that nutrition you ate drunk from and it also contains Genome,DNA,RNA!
Those three are big hints for you!
These are hints for whoever didnt
feed on yet!
Your Heart need to be born new blood every fucking time because of this cycle!
That is why feeding from fresh corpses
are party for us because of we actually can feed off everything of it from heart!
i believe there is a transferance of some sort as to what im not quite sure but as with most ideas and dare i say myths there is always some truths to fuel the bassis of everything
I think that the Vulcan Mind Meld would be far more productive in absorbing another's energy or essence
Again, the purest form of blood are unused thoughts. People never miss that which they never use, or have no use for.
I think it depends on more of what type of vampire you are. It depends on if the vampire that is feeding is open-minded enough. That's just my opinion
Precisely. Open mindedness can be a very exploitable resource.
"I weep for you," the Walrus said:
"I deeply sympathize."
With sobs and tears he sorted out
Those of the largest size,
Holding his pocket-handkerchief
Before his streaming eyes.
"O Oysters," said the Carpenter,
"You've had a pleasant run!
Shall we be trotting home again?'
But answer came there none--
And this was scarcely odd, because
They'd eaten every one.
- Lewis Carroll "Through The Looking Glass"
I think maybe you get some of the other persons energy but thats about it.
I'd say it is only a fictional idea, though it does have potential. Saying that, I think if one vampire is feeding off another, they should already have a strong relationship and good understanding of each other.
i dont know about blood - i'm a pranic / incubus - when i feed in my way, i do sometimes feel as if i am the person i feed from - i feel what they feel. but then my feeding is somewhat more intimate, and such empathy is to be expected.
As you said...tv and books...
Its just a myth, it isnt real...
i dont see any reason why an act of intimacy (and mutual vampirism is intimate) should not foster an empathic link. it seems highly likely even for the most sceptical.
This thread has spiralled away from the question and has fostered not much discussion.
There are other topics currently open that are close to the nature of this one that have more discussion merit.
Closed.