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I was reading a book today called "Blood Lust: Conversations With Real Vampires" and in this book there was mention that HIV/AIDS could not be transfered through blood drinking because blood does not, in fact digest and pass into the bloodstream. It rather, psees straight through with no absorbtion.
I have looked on the internet for more information, but have found support of both instances. Does anyone know anything about it?

Also, if blood does not absorb or digest, does that kill the theory that some people NEED to drink blood?

I have no idea, but i would think that if you ingest blood you will probably catch whatever disease the person has...

I don't know about the "digestion" part, but red blood cells will not reamin intact after exposure to HCl in the stomach.

Either wat, HIV/AIDS can still be transmitted via a cut in the mouth, bleeding gums, a minor ulceration in the esophagus. So, even if blood can't be "digested" you can still transmitt the deadly virus.

Taken from a medical journal.

"The cells that exhibit these [HIV] receptors and therefore can become HIV-infected are: helper T lymphocytes, monocytes/macrophages, Langerhans cells, microglia and nervous endothelial cells, folicular dendritic cells, B lymphocytes, mucous intestinal cells, the retinal cells. The main reservoir of HIV is represented by the macrophages.

For HIV transmission contact with a body fluid that contains infected cells or virus particles is mandatory; such fluids include blood, semen, vaginal secretions, cerebrospinal fluid, and breast milk. HIV also is present in tears, urine, and saliva, but in much lower concentrations.

HIV is mainly transmitted through sexual relation with an infected person, blood and blood-contaminated objects and by vertical route. Modalities for HIV infection differ with the geographic area. In USA and Europe, the most frequent transmission routes are blood and blood-contaminated objects (needles sharing by injecting drug users, blood transfusion for hemophilia) as well as sexual contacts in homosexuals and heterosexuals."

See highlighted to understand that a breast-feeding baby can contract the virus via ingestion of the mothers infected milk.

This process clearly, with the receptors of the mucous intestinal cells, means that ingestion of HIV infected blood, will provide a significant chance of contracting the virus.

wow that's interesting. you don't hear about that very often. i didn't know blood could not be digested... that's new. but if there is a cut somewhere in your mouth or something, then i'd say that you can in fact contract the disease... you'd have to be almost perfect inside and out for you NOT to get it... you know?

this was actually a concern that was addressed in the mid-1980's in my hometown. AIDS/HIV was a big fright (especially when you live in a small town with small minds) in my town at the time. Most everyone knew most everyone and there was someone working at one of our most visited restaurants who had HIV. People started protesting his employment stating that if he were to cut his finger and bleed on someone's steak and someone ate it, they would get HIV. That's when a report such as the one above was posted in our newspaper...that blood could not be digested.
Funny how small towns with small minds can actually teach ya something :)

I would suggest more research on that issue. I would not necessarily believe one book.

Wonderful information on the subject STAAB, thank you for that.

If the person cuts her or himself while coocking and lets say they are clumzy and bleed on the steak, then coock it and dont realise it was there, well the small amount of blood was expore to air, then to heat so hit to kills bacteria and germs, so it would kill also the aids virus cells, as a human cannot be coocked to kill it, but specimen are kept in cold because if in heat to high they get dstroy on lab. So my point is unless its on fresh serve food ready to eat, I would not worry.

if there is HIV/AIDS involved. i wouldnt drink it. u never know for sure.

its my believe that you can recieve aids from dranking infected blood. What you consume always effects your body, so be careful what you put into it.

i think that it could be possible to contract HIV from drinking blood not matter what you do be carfull but congradulations on your research

I have to agree with RavenKnight. I think that if you digest blood from someone else, what are the chances the person is not illed? I think the risks are even greater when digesting the blood of another human being.

I would trust a medical journal over a book called "Blood Lust: Conversations With Real Vampires" any day.

I never thought about it that way, but either way I think it is too risky and would not even try it.

Add to this the proven fact that HIV infects bolidly fluids, all of which are digestible, such as saliva, though in miniscule quantities.

But who would take the risk? Not me.

I'm not sure if it can be transferred from feeding, but I know I won't drink from someone that I think has HIV/AIDS.

I wouldn't risk it. You just never know the possiblities. Just think if you did do it, and come to find out, you get aids. Now wouldn't you just feel stupid? lol. Thats a pretty low way to view something as horrible as aids, but still. I wouldn't risk anything. Make sure always.

You know, I've thought the same thing. o_O Oddly enough I feel that it would be a stupid idea for someone to injest blood contaminated with HIV/AIDS, I mean even if you don't absorb it if you have a cut anywhere in your digestion track you will most likely get infected with HIV/AIDS. Not that people with HIV/AIDS are bad people because they're not by any means, I just dont' think anyone would personally want the disease.

you can get aids from drinking blood if you have a cut in your mouth or ulcers. so to be honest you can get aids/Hiv from drinking blood

I could, if so inclined, print something in medical journal that states oranges will make you grow a second manhood.

Like the original poster said, I too have seen legitimate, medical writings state that the chances of contracting HIV through ingesting blood is extremely low. Where is it obviously that HIV is in bodily fluids, a normal person would expire after drinking the huge amount of these fluids required to pass the virus over.

considering that the department of health recommends that all meats and such are fully cooked before consumption to avoid catching disease from the blood in the meat, I would say it could be possible to catch it that way.

LuciferRising,

I'd like to see that proven.

But such obnoxious replies only serve to demonstrate your ignorance of the topic, so I ask myself why you even made the effort.

Because I remember what I read, not paste it. Ok, I said that I HAVE read medical reports stateing that ingesting blood is a very very low risk of passing HIV. Maybe if you copied what I wrote you would have remembered that. Now, like I said up top, I try to remember what I read, not save it somewhere for easy pasting or rescanning. The reason why I did not give URL proof, is because I can't remember it. Also, I never state that what I was saying was true, just printed somewhere, under the names of people who should know better.

I'm not a doctor but if they can't come up with a cure for hiv/aids then I would think something as simple as digestion wouldn't kill the virus.

Oh, and perhaps I should get the the names and number of my middleschool, science teacher, so you can rip him apart too. I remember the whole discussion he had about having to drink 2 gallons of sweat, and about 4 gallons of blood before being a risk of HIV/AIDS. Oh, or maybe we should have a little talk about the fact that my uncle died of AIDS in 93. Nah, I never tried to learn anything about HIV/AIDS while that was happening.

I guess it's a personal decision to take the risk. Let it drop LR, don't get worked up over this.

1.) yes aid/hiv can transfer IF u have a cut somewhere inside of u where the other person's blood touches
2.)the nutrients from the blood absobes into the system not the blood it's self

I would think that if it's digesting, it's absorbing everything including whatever disease, but on the other hand wouldn't the gastric enzymes destroy them? hmmm

Well, first of all, thank you everyone for the replies. I would like to address the fact that, yes, i know that if you have a cut or sore in your mouth it can be transfered that way. I was speaking strictly of absorbtion in the digestive track. And to clarify, no, I do not plan on drink blood from someone who has HIV. I just read that in a book, did a little research, thought it was interesting and decided to start a forum thread about it. Just because the lot of us are smart enough to know that the only way to be safe is to be tested and have our donors tested as well does not mean that everyone that practices blood drinking has that much regaurd or respect for themselves.

Theoretically speaking a hungry vampire isnt going to even consider HIV/AIDS. After all they are hundreds of years old and haven't even heard of it... *grin*

even if you get past the cuts in the mouth or lips....there is still the low risk of contracting it through digestion....If you have HIV/AIDs it is your responsibility to tel your donor, or you partner or whomever, and it is their decision to carry on with the activities or not.
okie, heres straying a little bit but, if babies are at risk from contracting the virus through breast feeding, through digestion of the milk...isnt it possible to contract through feeding straigh from the blood??? Long shot but still...
Either way....the risk isnt worth it.

haven't thought about it but im not gonna take the risk hiv/aids is nothing to full around with

Yeah, 'cause it AIDS. If you drink infected blood, digestion or not, you're screwed.
end thread.

why would you even consider drinking tainted blood.......what are you,Stupid?


If the human bodys gasteric fluids can't absorb the infection wouldn't you think they would have came up with a cure for the damn disease already?

my mom is a nurse and from what shes told me is that blood is absorbed. if that wasnt true then how is it that people can get sick from each other without even swallowing their blood? when you hear the term "you are what you eat" its no kidding. the body digests food to get nutrients from it and feeds off of it. well if their is a disease in the blood then wouldnt that make it possible for you to get the disease as well? i believe that you do get HIV/AIDS that way as well.

The risk is very low once it reaches the stomach. How ever if you have lacerations in your mouth you can contract the virus. Your stomach acid kills it, but saliva does not. Now if you are directly drinking from someone and the blood isn't really exposed to air then the risk is also increased. Hope this helps

I remember an episode of CSI where 3 teens were tripping and ended up killing one of them and eating her insides. What lead them to the killers is that the girl they killed had e-ecoli or something and they in turn got the same virus from eating and drinking their blood. I know, I know, it's just TV, but an interesting thing to consider.

i dont see why it wouldnt be posible. but i wouldnt take the risk. then again the only blood i tend to drink is my own when i get a paper cut lol.

i was under the impression that any contact with hiv infected blood is dangerous. and like stab666 posted in the beginning, if a baby can get it from breast milk, then ill be damned if i risk tasting blood that was infected. but its personal preference. im sure there are other medical journals where u can get other opinions from.

im pretty sure that a virus could spread through the blood

As it has been pointed out, a cut or sore in the mouth, lip or throat could transmit the HIV/AIDS to either partner.

Yes, why would you even want to take the chance???

You have no idea what kind of shape the inside of your body is. The slightest open wound, whether it be inside your mouth, a sore throat, a sinus infection, or something internal, can cause the transfer of the virus.

That is very interesting. I have never heard of it before. Honestly, I wouldnt risk it. If someone does have HIV/AIDS, than dont drink from them. You wont know for sure if you can get it or not.

There was a post about this not to long ago. But you can still get HIV/AIDS from drinking blood if you have a open wound in your mouth or throat.

As many have pointed out in many ways.. A HIV/AIDS virus can be transmitted thru a small wound and thru a small scrap in the mouth some thing as small as an sore gum after brushing your teeth.

THERE is a very good reason that the medical staff wear gloves PEOPLE!!!

just be mindful of the source of feeding after all the risks are great that is that person is infected you will become so as well

I'm not sure why anyone would want to drink from an infected person willingly, but anyone who says that you cannot get any AIDS/HIV from drinking is WRONG. It is a virus. It CAN infect you.

So people, be safe, and make sure any donor/vampire is clean.

the blood may not be digested completely but hiv isnt part of the blood the blood is just a carrier agent other things carried in the blood that are not part of the blood can be digested. Also if you have even a microscopic cut, lesion or ulcer anywhere from your lips to your urethra or anus in your digestive tract there is a very high chance of it being transmitted there. Believe it or not its a bad idea to brush your teeth before you go on a date, have sex or drink blood from a donor because it causes lesions on your gums no matter how careful you are and how soft the brush is.

hiv can pass into your system if you have a cu in your mouth etc.
otherwise stomach acid would take care of everything,
it's like when people think they can get pregnant from oral.... aha riiight.

i agree with everyone but aids or no aid ect ect if blood is what you hunger and you need it... you would not risk getting aids or ect. dont you have to cure your thirt/hunger... isnt there a survival thing ?
no disrespect at all, i just dont understand

Its better to be safe than sorry ,make sure you know your doner....

Stabb: Where would be without your literary skills, and the way you do research for us all :) That was very informative and I hope fellow goths on here adapt those principals into their life :)

i agree with KCRC that it can be transfured by a cut or sore in the mouth, throut, or gums. it is to big of a risk. police officers and correction officers have been infected by imates who bite them.

Yes it can be transfared with with just a lil cut or something, it`s easy, that`s why it`s a very big risk

I strongly wouldn't recommended drinking blood of an HIV/AIDS infected person. It all boils down to being safe and common sense.

i agree. there is no sense in risking it. u never know for sure. even if u have a hundred opinions from 100 world renouned doctors, i still wouldnt chance it. u just never know. u destroy ur body u cant get it back.

I do remember one time my best friend Zack biting our best friend CC on the ear lobe. Zack made CC bleed. CC has been HIV positive 12 years. Zack hasn't caught HIV from CC from doing that. So, maybe there's a little bit of truth in that article come to think of it.

could also have been luck. plus hiv doesnt show up right away. soemtimes it can show up years later.

I personally believe blood is another metaphor for energy, so I do not personally think that it effects anything other than the mental state, so digestion does not really concern me.

However, although I do not know whether you can catch HIV etc through blood consumption, if you can catch STD's through oral sex, you can catch them through blood drinking. As is completely obviosu, don't take risks, BE CAREFUL.

If you people are really worried about HIV/AIDS then don't drink blood or at least don't drink until it's been properly tested... or have sex for that matter... I've seen countless posts about HIV/AIDs on the forum No doubt they're good for information, but c'mon. It's sorta common sence... You don't want the disease, don't drink and hump

HIV/AIDS when taken into the mouth through drinking blood, or otherwise licking , lapping, or sucking any biological fluid, contaminates the mouth, the throat, and the esophagus. These areas contain many capillaries that are close to the surface and may cause contamination before the biohazard reaches the stomach. This is also true of Hepatitis A,B and C; as well as STDs.

I agree with Dark dragon's posting "the department of health recommends that all meats be fully cooked before eating.. this is to avoid catching disease from the meat," Common sense would say you shouldn't take a chance with tainted blood.

the reasons why not to are all here what it comes down to is the lust for blood worth the risk

I would think that you would get it

Im not a doctor but im not going to trust anything i hear, so i will still make sure when i drink blood that i know the person really well...

were i worked not only was HIV and AIDS infected in the blood but also any of there bodily fluids could give you these ....

Drinking blood carries the same risks if not more risks for transmission of blood borne pathogens as oral sex. Therefore, HIV/AIDS is not only totally capable of being transmitted via blood ingestion, but it would actually be more risky than oral sex since the blood is more direct than from genitalia.

I would think that someone with HIV/AIDS and who knew of it, would be decent enough to tell their feeder... or be wary of letting people feed from them in the first place.

Know your donor... it's as simple as that.

I think that if you have any cuts in your mouth, or on the way down, you'd be able to transmit it there, if not by the digestion process.