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A hypothetical question for energy vampires.
You have a partner whom you feed from, feeding from a loved one is personal, special, deep, meaningful, romantic and very very sexual on a soul level.
I have found my way into a clan recently, and they feed from each other, with consent.

Is this being un faithful, it’s highly erotic and not with your life partner….

What are your views on this




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This should simply be a personal choice. If it feels good and the people involved are comfortable sharing with each other, go for it.



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If you had concern about your partner being ok with it, talk to them about it. That is the first thing I'd do.



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My partner is now in an asylum and I doubt she even knows her name, shes on so much medication…… the risk of contact with an energy feeder me thinks and the price she paid.
This is a hypothetical question so no need to ask just tell me what you would or feel?



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Since you clarified the question with the term "Soul", this gives me the idea that even though you have been interacting with others on this same level that...Not in your words you claim, you mate being..."Soulmate". That on the "Soul" level, the playing field is the same.

In other words, the group even though consensual, would seem as though it is "Soul-cheating" in a way. Ethereal adultery if you will. This is just my view, since I live more in the ethereal than on this plain more often than not.

If you have a "Soulmate", your energies and love should be for them alone. Not to be shared with any other individual or group for that matter.



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I have to agree with Soulshroude. Just because it isn't the normal way most think of intimacy everyone you interact with leaves sort of a psychic tendril attached according to many mages. I say if you are into this you shouldn't make a commitment to someone else unless they agree to some sort of polyamory limited relationship. You don't have to feed this way...you just want to.

If she is in a mental institution and not going to be released for a long time well that is another story but if you are married it is for better or worse. I don't want to pry to the calibre of the relationship but I highly doubt the reason she is in there has anything to do with any vampyric, but I cannot unequivocally say it is not but I don't believe it.



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Lavisbre that is sad to hear indeed. Whatever the cause of her condition it must way heavily on you.

The advice I can give is to follow gut instinct on this. If you feel like you are somehow betraying your bond with her then refrain from going elsewhere.



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its a hard question. you are acting in your natural.



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I think after talking with your life partner, what ever is decided is what you do and not divert away a different path in which you talked. but the choice is still yours



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Yes and no. It depends on how everyone's feeding. For example, If you have a Mate, you can feed from them anyway you like. In the sexual aspects, you can put certatain rules on feeding from others, like, "I would prefer and appreciate it if you didn't do this, than and the other." Why? B/c Mates get the 'all access pass' if you will, when it comes to sexual feeding. That's not to say that you can't feed sexually from others, b/c generally, "feeding isn't cheating" (unless you hide it from your significant other, then it is). If everything is done with consent from all sides, and all rules (if the individual has chosen to put fourth rules) are being followed, then no, it isn't being unfaithful.



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This would be a personal choice. It would vary for each vamp. If you feel like you are being unfaithful or unloyal...then mass feedings may not be something you wish to persue.



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Lavisbre, I am sorry for what has happened to her. Could sending her any of your energy be beneficial to her in any way?

The exchange of energy can be extremely erotic and help to bond two people. I do know friends exchange energy but not in any sexual connotations.

There are those that will just take from unsuspecting people as well.



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I think any feeding of this nature should be done under mutual consent and knowledge from everyone involved.



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I'd think that as long as you and your partner are on the same page, it doesn't matter whether you two are "faithful" or not. I mean, people have open marriages. Then of course there's swingers. So as long as the two of them agree, they will be fine



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Open Marriages are not the same thing as this in my opinion. However I understand what you are saying with that. I think it's more of a communication and agreement thing.



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Dark Greeting's,
That is a hard question,I have no mate so that I cant help with,if I did I would ask them and go with how they felt.I have a heard for want of a better word,and if their mate has a problem with it I will not feed from them.I have few morales,but in feeding useally if one gets a girlfriend,i won't feed from them as often even if she is ok with it.Thats just me though.
Blessing's,
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Lightningsking
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I do not believe its being unfaithful unless there is something sexual going on



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If it is your nature, you must follow your path... you have not choosen the path of your mate, therefore, as harsh as it may seem you must continue your life,
anything less will leave you empty.



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Simply put.
Take what is givin without word.
As for takeing,without asking...well,
it depends on how you feel about it,
or what you believe.
There is no wrong and no right.
morals*..pttttt..:P thats funny.




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My soulmate and I were separated by his incarceration. I have moved on to the best of my ability. I would feel guilt ridden if I ever broke our BLOOD BOND!!! (Without his consent) It has been 13 of a 25 year sentence. My advice Follow your heart!!!



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I feel that it would be a discussion for you and your mate. If they have no problem with it, I don't see any problems.



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my only response is follow ur inner self



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lavisbre,

As a few have noted, it is a question of how you and your partner have set the boundries within your relationship.

If you have to ask yourself whether it is right or not, then perhaps the answer is obvious to your own conscience.

But I disagree that an energy exchange is necessarily erotic. It is 'merely' a function for many and can therefore be discriminated as a ritualistic act, devoid of any specific sexual content.

I would go as far as to agree that it is deeply emotional in many respects, for the sense of gratitude and sharing, but further into the actual experiencing of another's heightened emotional state.

That said, it can and often is used in conjunction with sex, especially between loving individuals.



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Stabb is most correct.. an energy transfer can be just that - a transfer from one to another.

Only when it is needed or wanted would become erotic for lack of a better word to use.



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I guess what would be important is how your partner feels about it. If they have no problem with it, and you consent to their feeding off others it wouldn't be an unfaithful act. If you have to conceal your activities and be secretive then that would be an unfaithful act.



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that would be something you would have to discuss with your partner, but if you can not then you have to use your own code of ethics and know that you have to feed, so i think it may be more for the need of closeness and connection and feeding, because it is what we are and do.



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I agree that the partners wishes should be discussed, always take into consideration your loved ones feelings before acting on an impulse.



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That is a great question, and one I have always wrestled with. From a female-overly-romantic-twit point of view, the thought breaks my heart.To know that someone else would be sharing that part of a someone I loved. I consider it a most precious gift.
On the other hand ,I have said to someone I care about to feed in that manner if it was necessary.Due to distance our being together and sharing this was not possible.Part of me gets jealous as hell, the other part is feeling bad that my partner was suffering so.
I would not feed in this manner, unless it was the one I loved.
My remedy for that was, just don't tell me.
Personally, it would hurt me too much to know.

I guess ignorance is bliss in this regard.



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Hi Nocturnisorchid
It is the question indeed is it not… to feed or not to feed this is the question.
Personally I wouldn’t feed as I would be breaking that bond between my loved one and something inside that makes me love so much

i guess i would know what i did and that would eat at me



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it can be dangerous to feed off another vampire.
its better to have not vampiric donors that are into the lifestyle that you can use that way, with their consent of course.



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why not feed from other vampires?
does this cause what im going through?



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it might be related to what you going through..

"Vampyres feeding from one another is INCREDIBLY dangerous.

My, well, time to brush up on those irresistable charm and social butterfly skills, hm? *smirks*
Really, though, with the way Vampyres are treated-- even in the Alternate scene-- it's quite understandable that most would be warey to befriending others of the kind (especially because of all the Vampire Lifestylists and Sympathetic Vampires that are ever-present *shudders*)."





quoting a close personal friend that has helped me a great deal...



personallly i think you should control what your doing feeding wise better, it seems like your out of control. thats just my opinion.



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Well, I cannot speak for anyone else, but my personal thoughts are that this sort of an exchange should be discussed with a committed partner just as physically sexual interactions with others should be discussed -- IF that is possible. In the case of a vamp/mundane relationship, the mundane may not know that her/his partner is a psy/psi/sexual/whatever vampire/vampyre (although I fail to see how this could be freqently possible). I also prefer to call it "ethics," not "morals" -- as, to me, "morals" implies some sort of set of rules from an outside source, and ethics is what the vampyre has chosen as a personal code of behavior, not something forced by others. But that's beside the point. ;) I personally can feed in a variety of ways, although my preferred method is through sex OR through the sexual energy generated by others. My regular partner generates a lot of this sort of energy during sex, but if he is ill or tired, I must feed elsewhere. He would be outraged if I did this by a physical act, but since physical sex is not necessary for me to feed, he has no problems. However, this only applies to us; each couple/triple/what have you will have different thoughts on the matter. :)



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I agree with the majority.. This is something that you will have to decide for yourself.. between your partner and you.. No one can make that choice for you, as no one else has to live with the decision..



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Go for it if your partner says it's all good.



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Morals of a Vampire only exist if it is advantageous to the Vampire..after all they are outrageous entities..umm, aren't they? Well, last time I read Bram Stoker they were.



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basically if you are willing then just do what you need to do... it is not unfaithfullness



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do what works for you, really. i don't think there is anything that controls the ethical code of a vampire per se, unless you join a House.



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I think it's a personal choice and if you feel in your heart that you are in a way cheating then it is not something you should be doing. But you feel fine with it and know where your heart is then dont worry about it hun.



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No, it shouldn't be considered cheating, since it's nothing sexual in a sense.



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Personally Lavisbre I feel that it is being unfaithful as the way that you described it puts it on that level, highly erotic, romantic etc....very personal....I feel that those things should only be shared with your partner.



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I see it as a personal choice and if your partner is aware of it and doesn't have a problem with it then there is no problem.



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Yes your partner may not see the damage, they might not care as much ether.
I guess it depends on what you have with someone.



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From a vampiric view, go ahead do what ever you need to get your fill, But from a human view you should only give that blessing from the one you love.



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I believe that as long as the concent is mutual between the individuals involved it is fine.



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My nature is my nature, as yours is yours.
It would hurt as much as it weighs heavy on you but remember, self preservation is key.
I could see if your mate was still with you but if she is no longer there and it will be who knows when till you see her next, you have to do what you have to.
Plus you stated you made your way into a clan......for all intensive purposes, that is your family. Family shares, family gives...
Just my thoughts.



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i belive that if you have consent from your partner then its ok. if you dont have a partner then its free reign.



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with consent there is no folly(sp) in your actions.



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Feeding off of your partner's energy is indeed fufilling, erotic and personal.
One question to ask yourself, is this what you feel like everytime you feed off of energy?
If you only feel that way because it's your partner then it should be safe to feed off of others in your clan.
Talk to your partner also and ask their feelings about feeding off others.



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I know I couldn't do it personally, even with consent from my partner. But I suppose if your partner doesn't mind I guess it would be ok.



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even if my partner said it was ok id personaly have issues with that myself.... i guess im asking if you think it's ok



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_It's different for both you and your partner to feel it's okay, than just one of you to feel it's okay. If she feels it's okay, then to her it is, however, if at the same time, as you said, you feel it isn't, then it isn't. Your preference, after the consent of your partner, takes first hand._



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Its on how you feel, you can feed with out the lust being there. In a way if you don't want to you can always just say no.
Sometimes it feeding from your clan that makes you stronger.



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I agree, talking with your life partner is very important as you would expect your life partner to be honest and open with you. The choice is still yours to make, but the fact that you posted the question shows you have reservations and are looking for guidance on this subject.

Take Care My Friend,

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tha is more a personal life choice. this is something that u should think over in your mind. not with the mind others. making sense?



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lavisbre, morals are not for another to judge. Your relationship must be very open to allow for other feeding partners.

It is a personal matter. As for my own morals, I have one feeding partner. He is the one I prefer and no other energy for me suffices.

For me, I wouldn't want tonfeed from another vampire. That is my personal choice out of respect for my donor who is always there for me regardless.

Again though it js a matter of your own wishes. If you feel it is wrong then it is wrong.



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i believe you should include your life partner in your activities, and keep them close to you and if they disaprove you will know immedietly if your doing something you should not, you can cease the action at your partners request. only do what you feel is right in your heart.



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I agree w/ AlchemistDamned if it feels right to u then I don't see anything wrong it is ur life. morality is what we make of it not what others think if something feels right then do it, if not then don't not with it out proper precautions.



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EternalXRage
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22:52:49 Apr 06 2008
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I would never drink blood from anyone other than my husband. But energy I just take from whom ever I feel like. It is not anything special to me. It's really a personal choice to be made by talking to your partner and seeing what they feel.



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GordSicle
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01:48:32 Apr 07 2008
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but would it be like cheating



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Kontradiction
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02:21:05 Apr 07 2008
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honestly, i've never viewed "feeding" per se as something that is deeply personal or intimate..i feed off the energies around me and not necessarily people. because of this, i do not think that i break an ethical "code", nor am i "cheating" upon a Lover.



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ChemicalxReaction
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02:31:03 Apr 07 2008
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Regardless of my beliefs on this one. I dont think it would be cheating.I'm sure with your 'mate' being in the condition and situation that they are, they wouldnt mind you doing what you must?


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MistressBloodDiamonds
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00:56:39 Apr 08 2008
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It would really depend on the details of the exchange and the set parameters that the people involved had set.



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Desmond
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01:02:56 Apr 08 2008
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I've always felt, that if you have to ask yourself this kinda question than a red flag should pop up.



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