Personally I don't buy into any of the last days ideas.
These things happen and have happened for a very long time.
I agree with that ----
Things happen and pass on to something else.
We very well could be in the end times but this could also simply be a very unfortunates set of coincidences. Then again, I probably won't be convinced that its the end of days until I see the 4 horseman go riding by.
I'm gonna' side along with the Mayan calendar and go with 2012...The End!
I have never heard of the link between www. and 666 before. I would think that it would be a stronger case if it was fff. but thats just my observation
Well it seems to me that people can read anything into anything these days....if you want to sell it....there's always someone ready to buy it.
Not even close. For me to have to believe anything close to that, something truly major would have to happen.
Which in my eyes would be worse than the Holocaust by around 3 fold.
We could also look at the simple answer which explains most extreme weather change; global warming.
Or alternatively instead of www, wtf… lol
Maybe what we consider to be chaos and disaster is merely the earths way of telling us that we have just about sucked its will to live, stripped it from all its goodness and now it needs to replenish itself like it did a long time ago with the ice age. Its cyclical and just like life itself, from the moment we are born technically we are gradually dying.
The earth will survive long past us and just because we are having wars, famines, droughts, and floods-it doesn't mean that the earth as whole is in its final days.
We might have crossed a threshold where energy as we traditionally understand is depleting. We will just have to check our SUVs, Chinese imported food, and our modern way of life at the door. Global warming and the energy crisis present very real threats for humanity but the solution or the corrective measures to deal with it will all be localized food production and living as humans did prior to the industrial revolution.
So basically, our way of life will end as we know it...the planet will still be here, but we will adapt to the changes and live more simply.
The Earth has gone through many changes in her time. She will out live all of us. She knows what to do in order for her to survive. It is up to us to figure out we will continue to survive.
I am not buying into this is the end of time, the world and mankind as we know it bit. People read to much into stuff. (ie. The Church, Nostrdomas (sp) and such.) People will however believe what they want to.
There is a website: www.december212012.com
that has so much stuff about the end of the world or something terribly drastic to happen on that day or around it. You should check it out.
Great idea for a topic, because I have a theory.
I don't really think that the earth is any more or less active in creating our catastrophes. Instead, what has happened is the mankind has populated so much more of the earth with more people, that when an event occurs, the likelyhood of damage and death is increased.
I believe the Aztec theory.
The galaxies are aligning,
and the last time this accorded the world went into another form of chaos and destruction.
That is actually a very good theory Thedog. Mankind taking over more and more of the earth. I think also that these things have always been here and throughout history there has been huge catastrophies like the ones we are experiencing in modern day life, the world is just more enlightened.
I do not buy into the whole idea of The last days, armageddon, Ragnarok or whatever people choose to call it.
The 2012 concept is intriguing, very similar hype build up that we had going into the year 2000.
I feel that there will eventually be a blowout of humankind, either climate change, asteroid, massive war, etc. Whether we survive the onslaught and continue to exist is a great speculation for a fiction novel.
As to predicting an exact time period as to when it will occur, many have tried, and many have been proven wrong. The good news is that if people continue to make predictions, sooner or later, someone will get it right.
Kind of like rolling dice. Each time you roll, you guess for snake eyes. Sooner or later, you will get them...but that is not quite how true predictions work, right?
I am very afraid by this topic. But it is a big discussion at my house. I would hope that there are alternative explainations. I do however think we are reaching our final days.
i don't believe in the last days, but i don't completely not believe in it. too many cultures have theories on it for them to be no merit to it. btw, if you're interested in this sort of thing and want to look into it in more depth you could look at the Ancient Mayan prediction that the end of days is December 21st, 2010. Very interesting stuff.
well, the world will fall apart sometime, whether because it becomes unstable or because people made it so.
doesnt make much of a difference
I believe that it was never said that we would cease to exist anyway. It was simply the beginning of a new age for humanity. I could be wrong though.
I think we are at the end of days..... I also hope we are, the world has gotten seriously fucked up. We are gonna kill each other off either way so it doesn't matter
I agree, Kontradiction...everything that rises must converge!
if you believe in the last days then who would be the anti christ who would be the political leader to make the world follow him. when the world goes to hell the anti christ should rise trying to bring people over to evil if you think this is the end you should be watching what is going on to find who is the embodyment of evil.
I say only this:
if these are the last days, BRING THEM ON!!!!!!
the weak shall fall and decay at my feet while the strong shall prosper greatly and stand in high command in my army.....
So would Sayith Satan
Weather patters are shifting all over, but I do not see it as a sign of the end of the world
Mankind has been killing itself from the very beginning, as far back as recorded history and beyond.
Because of that, I don't think things are more violent or any worse than they have ever been. Any location, any time period, you would always find someone killing, beating, or torturing someone else.
Religious and ecological "predictions" have just made people more aware of the very activities that have been occuring around the world in one form or another for scores of centuries.
My thought is just wait and see who knows with the bible but what is going on are the signs pointed out in the bible of the time of the end but I am thinking that the end could be anything even the end of things as we know it and the begining of something new, a new era.
I wish I could remember where I heard/learned this little piece, but supposedly the earth is reborn every so many ages. A great cataclismic event occurs and everything restarts. Supposely this is the 6th time the earth has been repopulated. I want to say it was a discovery/history channel show. It had to do with the polar shift theory though in which the poles get so heavy with ice that is suppose to cause the entire world to roll onto its side causing catastropic temperature changes and earth crust shifts that create earthquakes and volcanos galore. Other things have been theorized as well like astroids hitting earth. Hopefully with global warming, we wont have to deal with this type of event.
here is another cool site.
http://www.world-mysteries.com/aa_2.htm#Polar
one more post...
but this might explain why science and technology seems to be more advanced in dead civiliations.
There has been one guy in our local paper that since the start of the year has told us when the world has end I think he is at the 4th guess and we are still going. Me personaly think when the time is up its up
I think in the bible it talks about it being the last days back then. But I do think it all going to end one day!!!
many people around me are claiming they believe these are the last days
me i believe that this is just the ebb and flow of time and events as they have been and shall be
i dont understand why people worry so much about it... we are the assholes who are ruining the planning and yet we want to spend our lives bitching
I would also say that everytime an event occured, the people thought the end of the world was coming. Civilizations may end but the world continue. The Earth itself will one day end, consumed by the sun or frozen as the sun dies. Perhaps struck by a celestial body that destroys it.
Not sure that I believe that if it is the end of days it has anything to do with the bible. Seems to me these kinds of occurrences have happened before and will happen again. If you read the Revelations and what it states.. technically we should all be dust by now. So many of the seals have been broken and done. As far as the hoopla on the www being 666. Thats just nonsense. I swear people come up with the silliest of things.
well HellHathWings is right why bitch about it we all know that everything comes to an end as we see it and evolves, just as the planets has before.
I fell also that as others had said no days people can say or read anything into something.. LOL
I myself I do not feel it is end of days.. sure we are approaching it because of the palnets change yet as someone else said ... If I am still here then I will only believe it is end of days when I see the Horsemen arriving...
We are slowly killing our planet and it will in return kill us eventually so... ya know dust to dust ashes to ashes as they say...
uh hate to break it to you but i dont think that the book mentioned in the first post is meant to be taken literally. just an opinion, and secondly are you more worried about the earth because let me tell you something. the earth can withstand a lot and can recover us eventually. heck it will overcome a huge impact from comets and what have you. its just the feeble lifeforms on the planets that would likely parish. and if you look at the bigger picture, that would be the best possible scenario for the planet. hear me out. the things being done to Earth right now by our kind is comparable to what a deadly virus does to its victims. thats right our planet is our victim, if it could speak it would probly say "good riddence"
What amazes me is that there is so much proof/evidence of global warming, and other climate changes which may or may not signal the end of days...and still people call it a hoax, and say there is no global warming, that things are just going on the way they would normally, and all our Co2 is not harming the ozone layer!!!
The next few years will be ones to watch.
heres hoping that december of 2012 is just the beginning of a new era. an age of the exhaulted where nonsensical traditions become a thing of the past. (exciting to think about. )
I would say that the best thing to do would be to prepare physically, mentally, and spiritually. But how do you prepare for something that you can't even be certain of? Quite the dilemma.
The world will end when the god and goddess see fit on one can stop their plan
I have been hearing the last days are coming since i was a young child maybe the times are upon us and maybe not noone can really tell some said it would in in 2000 but noting happened
I really don't know what to think of the bible or Mayan theories but I do know that this planet has been evolving continuously and its time for another catastrophic event according to history. We are probably at fault for hurrying it along more than likely and whether or not the human race will be a part of the future when this happens remains to be seen.
The only thing we need to worry about in The Bible is how to love thy neighbor.
i've never been worried about the end of days. i figure that if it happens it happens and there's nothing that i can do about it. But i'm a pessimist so it's my nature to think in this way. i just try to live my life to the fullest on a day to day basis because if i think about it too much i'll just bum myself out. but when it comes down to it i do think the world as we know it will come to an end. it was created, therefore, it will one day be destroyed.
such a scarey thought... where do I want to go? I want to go to the good place I don't want to be placed in a pool of fire burning for all eternity.... makes me wish I could have been a virgin and stayed a vergin perhaps I'd be chosen for something all these things mean something I like to think it means that the earth was made to withstand and still go on after all it's gone through...I honestly don't know with all thats been going on w/ ppl constantly talking about the end of the world last man on the planet and humans dying out but managinf to still continue after many deaths and many blowslife for humans manages to still go on amazingly just when we think it's all over a miricle occurs and it makes u think about how u've lived ur own life and where u want to go when u die....
The word Last day never hapen but it sure that things turn into different shape some time.
we were nothing on this planet at the time of renaissance later by astroids bombarded and the gasous foramtion the souls came here to form living organs and staying in it. actually our past life been pertaining to else planets than this earth before the renaissanece of the earth.
according to hindu cllander this yoga of kali is of 435000 before it come to an end and we have passed only about appx. 5000 years. in between of these yuga the dark age will lead the world to darkness and when one demon and its forces will start destroying remaining goodness then other fierce most demon of the univrse will take birth and destroy that demon and all its forces to regain goodness on earth as well as in universe. by the end of yuga
at about to end of yuga the protecting demon who fierce most of the universe's History with name Kalki will take birth on earth. I dont knwo about it my conscious cant reach that far future but I sense easily that our civilizations and science is leading us to dark ages and even the greenary or protecting green world we do see in the context or for protecting the dark ages ( ages of high beings ) science is progressing towards it by progressing in quantum science and is result will appear within 100 years from now.
Ade, actually I must admit that when you opened this thread I thought it was doomed for some mud slinging and a quick RIA. I'm glad to see that I was proven wrong.
Perhaps, you would care to delve a little deeper into you opinion. I know that I'm curious. ;)
oh yes, you are right. the internet is utterly evil - you will never catch me using it.
I believe we are looking at he last days!. I have had this feeling for some time now. I also like Isis101, look to the Mayan calendar of 2012. I have pondered this often, very good ?
I think it was close to 2012 also that Nostredameous(sp?) phrophetsized the last days. Many of his phrophacies have come true, depending on how they are interreted.
Wars, rumor of wars, famine, unpredictable weather, earthshakes, famine, ya know the bible has been pretty accurate in its description of the foretold last days, even the unexplainable objects in the sky, it really does make you wonder whats going on, and is the book perhaps more truth than people want to beleive.
I think that the world is changing due to the way have abused everything from the enviroment, to one another. Food shortages, energy shortages, terrorism, wars, diseases, etc.. will only make us hopefully step back and reevaluate the way we are living today and make those changes that are furiously important. We have been living as though nothing could be depleted and the earth could never fall into any sort of ruin or decay which of course, we now know is untrue.
The earth, just like everything else living on it, has it's cycles, and perhaps we are entering one of those cycles - however, whatever IS happening, humanity has done nothing but push it even further and faster along.
If anything kills this planet and all of it's living things, it won't be religion based - it will be our fault.
Humans destroy. That is who we are. No other creature on this planet could do the kind of damage we have done. But I am optimistic that we will change. I am hopeful that we as the human race will make those changes and create a better world for those generations that will come after us.
Just being totally honest here...I try not to think about it too much at all. Granted, I have no fear of death for myself but I still don't ever try to figure that end of the world stuff out at all.
Doom n gloom lol
2010 is a mark and the calendar goes on, not for the guys who made it… funny enough the event it marks was before there time and also after… so why bother one should ask… as they predicted there demise.
It will be an interesting time for sure.
As for the bible claim of the end of times??? … it had a time it belived to be the end and it is now believed that is who burnt Nero’s Rome to the ground attempting to bring validation to the bible belief of the end of the world…. Now long past n being dug up again? How it only had one end of the world lol….. makes you wonder how vague the bible documents must be? Just like Nostradamus writing in old French in his time this was an out of date dead language so it was hard to understand in the first place as an almost forgotten language.
Being sketchy doesn’t mean there right ….
Things like floods and fire and famine and everything else have happened since the beginning of time
no i dont buy into it either, familes catastrophies floods been happening since the dawn on time and yet we are still here
Although these could be signs of the end of days, I don't see our days ending anytime soon...human beings are like roaches...we can't die. We will rise up from the ashes a 1000 times, we will not go quietly into that good night...I do not feel that we will see the end of days in our lifetime, nor anytime in the near future...
it could be true alot of people belive in the bible if it is not true there is going to be alot of mad people
Poison you don’t know how funny that last statement was to me… I don’t believe in the bible at all.
Every thing dies. So must the Earth. That is how I feel about it anyway. "The End of Days" will come one way or another.
The last days...hmmmmmmmmmm... My opinion would be .... been there we were born with numbers already. numbers follow us everywhere. we run into delimas everyday. we have fire, rain and so forth.... Its already there, taking affect. just sit back and look around you.
Thats just my opinion.. no harm intended.
im not a bible person but i do believe that things will end there is much speculation as to how but when it happens it happens
According to some people that I've heard talking, we are. I used to read the bible and I do remember prophesies being made, such as man believing that there is no more need for religion. maybe its a coincidence, but i do believe the UN are talking about the lack of need for the pope and such. I personally do not believe that we are in the "last days".
yes, i believe in the end of days. i think that everything that gets made must get ..... unmade.
No one can prepare for the last days, Only spiritual , We wont even know when the last days will be. The earth the planet may still be standing it may not, We may still be here to see it. We may not be, You do not really know to it happens,
I dont really care personnally. I live each day as it comes. I dont have the time to think about questions that have no answers. ;@)
Last days. So many ways to make someone think these will be the last days.
To easy IMO.
Global warming? Load. The earth changes, has been for millennia. Nothing new.
Granted, yes we as a species are really screwing this planet up and it will eventually revolt against us in some way. May even be starting.
:shrug:
most people feel really uncomfortable with the thought of "last days" because in effect it isnt the same as a fear of death - EVERYTHING you knew would disappear along with you.
theres a theory that suggests that the planet moderates and stablises itself along with the species that inhabit it. so as scientists say if were responsible for stuff like deforestation, maybe inadvertantly weve caused global warming - its just the planets way of restoring natural order.
does this theory make sense?
I am not a bible person either but be;ieve that things happen for a reason and when our time is up only god knows it not us.