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I have just finished rating the Movies in the database and I was just wondering if anyone else agrees or seem to think that the old Horror Movies seem to be dying out. I mean the lead rolls like Dracular, werewolves etc.

Do you think it is like the old cartoons have been replaced with new computerised cartoons.

I cannot recall a new movie with Dracular or werewolves coming out, well not here in Australia anyway. Do you think the new generation is over this sort of thing and the film makers are out to please the new generation or the fad of the werewolves etc has just died out?

I think the vampire side of things has died out somewhat. I seems to be more about packs, cults or covens.

The last movie I recall that was based on Count Dracula was Bram Stokers Dracula. American werewolf in London and the howling are the only ones I can think of that were based on just the individual tale of a singular werewolf.

So I think those kind of movies have waned somewhat. But may make a come back all it takes is an enterprising director and producer.

As for Directors catering to the audience, I think they always have. You always get trends with movies. All you have to do is look at what is showing at the cinemas in the past few years and you will always get movies of a similar genre showing in or around the same time period. So it does show hey cater to the audience. Even how a movie is set out and displayed is all based on what the audiences want to see.

well of course things are moving into the future with movies etc......but to be honest i never forget about old horror movie classics i love watchin them, because thats what kicked the whole horror thing off, if it wasnt for them then movies might have been different i guess,

I think movies have trends. A few years ago the fad was vampires, with Interview, Queen, Dracula etc all coming out at around the same kind of time. Then there seemed to be a fair few dealing with extra-terrestrials (Independence Day, Signs etc). Then we had a run of zombie movies...

Now we seem to be in the 'psychological thriller' phase. I'm sure vampires will get their turn again soon.

I believe the old style of horror is slowly dying out. I thi nk it is all based on what ppl feel at the time. Writers and directors are smart they would see what ppl are flocking to see and then concitrate on that.

I would love to see the old movies make a return, I now the music tends to come back again so hopefully so will the old movies.

Thats the funny thing about movies they are catered for the audience of the time. What we like to see and hear changes from day to day yr to yr and that is how writers and directors decide on what they will do at a certain time.

I think over time we will see movies do a full circle and we will see the movies of old make a come back. Here's hoping anyway.

yes i do think they have been modernized with the times and new stories created for pleasures or entertainment. as it should and needs to be done. you could only do so many movies with the same senario a few times before people lose interest in it so new storie lines and senerios are there for created. the classics will always be great . and can only be remaide so many times .some times the remakes are for the best sometimes i think it ruines the old classics. but the new movies comeing out are always fresh and new.....

I think most of the old horror movies have died out.
Theres going to be new horror movies though, and movies are made for that generation, and as technology develops so will the movies.

I have a lot of the old horror movies. Some still in black & white. A neighbor of my parents had taped them & I guess they got tired of them & was going to throw them away. So, my Dad knowing that I love horror movies told her he would take them. I mean there was a whole trash bag full of them. You really don't see any of them played on TV anymore.

Yes the old classic horror movies are fading away. Hollywood is only going to make movies they think will sell and it seems they dont think these movies will sell. Also no movie today can compare to the old classics

I cut my teeth on those old black and white horror films, secertely getting up late at night to watch them and scarying myself silly. (those were great times)

The trend has changed because technology has changed and with it the expectations of the audience. Since the basic reason for movies is to entertain and make money the old style just won't work anymore.

As previously said, everything seems to go in cycles and the vampire will be back.

It is normal for technotogy to chenge the making and the look of the movies... I personaly LOVE old movies.. even though they are in black and white... or of bad quality.:) there was more ART in the old movies.. the actors had to express soooo much by sooo many means... nowadays if something is not right ... thay have a crew of programers that solve all the problems:)

I think with all the changes as like they are now more about Clans , and covens and groups instead of the single Vampire terror movies LOl ahh the old days.

grant it that alot of the new onews are very good yet, different ...

THe last movie I remember like that was Van Helsing... is that movie really that old?

well not really but it is a very good movie indeed..I love all old horor movie from the 50's all the way up to todays movies they are all great...

everything has changed all filmmakers want to make a big nme for themselfs so they are all trying to come up with new ideas and since so many of those type of movies have been made it would be hard to make something like that and not be cliche

the older movies were great yet I feel the newer ones are just as good if not better as far as the special effects goes. hollywood is always looking for a new angle as to how to make it more gore or just interesting .

I miss the old classics, such as the original "House on Haunted Hill" and "Night of the Living Dead". I also liked the Steven King and Anne Rice movies (some are even better than the books, sadly).

The horror movies now seem to be overly focused on blood and gore, with little plot value. Such as: Resident Evil, Dawn of the Dead, I Am Legend, Thirty Days of Night, etc.

And great books-to-movies like "Blood and Chocolate", which had such delicious storylines in the books, have been made into cliches and cheesy typical horror drabble since establishments like Hollywood is afraid to take a chance and be creative.

Would you want them re-making the classics?

On May 10, 2007, it was announced that Dutch producer John De Mol had purchased the Hammer Films rights via his private equity firm Cyrte Investments. In addition to holding the rights to over 300 Hammer Films, De Mol's company plans to restart the studio. According to an article in Variety detailing the transaction, the new Hammer Films will be run by former Liberty Global execs Simon Oakes and Marc Schipper. In addition, Guy East and Nigel Sinclair of L.A.-based Spitfire Pictures are on board to produce two to three horror pics or thrillers a year for the U.K.-based studio.

The first output under the new owners is Beyond the Rave, a contemporary vampire story which premiered free online exclusively on myspace in April 2008 as a 20 x 4 min. serial.

SOURCE:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammer_Films#2000s

Yes...the old horror movies are dying out. Some of the B-movies were better than the big production...especially during the 80s.

I have to disagree entirely with this thread.

The Underworld movies are recent, containing both vampires and werewolves. The Blade movies aren't that old and feature a strong lead vampire character.

Several Dracula title films were released in the last few years, and are even listed in the database. They may not be very good, but that Character is still a popular concept.

The Lost Boys II is about to be released, another cult vampire classic. As someone mentioned, the entire Hammer back catalogue has been purchased, and plans are rumoured to be having those remade.

Asides from that, there are a continuous stream of books always looking for new angles, which will inevitably be turned into film. The problem is that it is such a popular fantasy, that a lot of the best stories have been written already. Finding something new is proving difficult, but it's by no means a dead subject.

i agree with Stabb, we have had several Vampire movies over the years; the Underworld series, for example, (with one more coming) ....and most very recently, 30 Days of Night.

the vehicle is not "dead", as i am sure that we will see more vampire movies to come.

I think some of the movies that are coming out now are somewhat of a remake of old ones. Some of the ideas are being reused. I think that might be some of why the newer movies are being listed in some places and some aren't.

Canada has a thriving werewolf and vampire movie history.

Forever Knight, The Village, and all three Ginger Snaps movies...

I can think of 4 or 5 movies filmed in my city in the past couple of years... I have a friend who does costuming for movies and television. I think the most recent project is almost done and will be on NBC next season... I just saw it advertised on space 2 days ago.

Oh yes... an d I nearly forgot about shorts...

There are huge number of short films in the genre...

and foreign...

These films are more about style over glitz... so you haev to look for indie and foreign films... I don't think hollywood has made very many good movies in over 15 years... too formulaic... I like to see the dog and the hero die.

Blade & Underworld aren't what I consider "proper" vampire or werewolf movies, there new school & don't beat the old.

I feel that old horror movies died out because

Hollywood remade them and made them so unrelistic that they seem so far fetched

old school horror films are the shizzle compared to modern horror in my opinion. ^^

First...there is no R at the end of Dracula

Second...no one cares anymore about actual plot to a movie...CGI is what they want....or alot of blood...guts and gore.

Third....Hammer House of Horror and Universal Studios made the best old school movies.

It would be nice to see horror movies made that kept to the old style of story telling and plot, together with the new technology in filming. And they don't need to be all blood and gore...

I agree Isis...maybe a new spin on the old Dracula perhaps?

I personally thought that Dracula 2000, while poorly acted, had a nice idea about portraying Dracula as Judas Iscariot.

It could've been done better though.

Old-style horror films happen to be my favorite, and the ones I reach for more often than the modern ones. They just seemed to have more style and substance.

Modern audiences today would probably have no patience for the elegant gothic tales that relied on acting to tell the story, rather than slash and stab. I fondly remember when Hammer Horror films were considered controversial because of the Kensington Gore!

Tis sad indeed, those days are long gone.

Instead of a new twist on Dracula...maybe actually follow the book word for word and not add or change anything...like the Frank Langella version of Dracula....what a crock of shit.

Hammer films were great - their blood and gore scenes were over the top in a dark humorous sort of way, in my opinion...the blood and gore films of today are...blah.

And I also liked the twist of the Dracula story in Dracula 2000...I mentioned that in another thread awhile back.

I would LOVE to see the Dracula story properly portrayed, with all the characters intact, and the correct sequence of events followed. So far it has never been done. Each movie takes a little bit of it, but due to the fact that it's a damn long book, it has never been presented intact.

Maybe a mini series or something on PBS...they keep trying, bless their hearts, and I think they are the best bet to present an "authentic" Dracula story.

I love the classic horror movie. I own about a hundred or so of them, but some of the newer ones are good too. I think the f/x have gotten better in the newer ones, but it seems like the scripts are the same....cheesy, but in a more modern fashion.

I love old horror movies, from Nosferatu, to the Hammer films. Now it seems that horror movies rely on special effects and shocking people. Movies like 13 Ghosts, House on Haunted Hill, Dracula, The Mummy, black and white, touched your inner fear, they engaged your imagination.

All those old William Castle films were such fun...The Tingler...anyone remember the movie seats that were hooked up to some sort of minor electrical charge? Or in 13 Ghosts, someone in the movie theatre rigged up a ghost on a line and sent it sailing down into the audience at a certain moment....classic.

there are plenty of new movies that involve vamps and werewolves...
the new age is making a good amount of flims about vamps and werewolves....
i think that this new generations likes the horrors that creal out at night....

I own The Tingler on dvd as well as the Original House of Wax and the first The Mystery of the Wax Museum

Darkwolfman, I have a lot of those same fims on tape! They are so fun to watch.
I have a few silent films too, like Nosferatu and The Phantom of the Opera, for example. I love those too.

It seems to go in phases the most recent werewolf one i can think of is blood and chocolate. And that was just a few years ago.

I feel that there have been plenty of recently made vampire movies and others have listed them so I am not. While they do not have the old style feel to them you have to take in the account that when times change so must everything else to keep up and appeal to the masses. Who wants to see the same old thing over and over again. I go to the theater to hopefully see something I haven't before.

the old monsters just aren't scary to the new generation who sees blood and death everywhere.

If you watch the original versions of Japanses Horror...like Ringu...The Eye ...Ju'On you will see how "Horror" should be...they use music...shadows...camera angles to scare people.

Night of the Living Dead (original)

It was ahead of its time...and very political as well

I think that we are due for a good Horror flick like the old ones .. Bram stroker and Queen of the damned as well as underworld were all very good yet been awhile.

It just goes throgh phases I think in hollywood as to finding the right script and not like stale movies... which there have been a few. LOL

Horror films seem to go with certain trends, hot one year and bummer movies seem to add to the low out put of horror films. Many have forgotten the old classic films to scare us and moved on to blood and more blood. Old movies will soon vanish and new cult classics shall emerge.

Drive In Massacre
Killer Klowns From Outerspace
It and any other Steven King films
Puppet Master series
Nightmare on Elm St
Friday the 13th
Silent Night, Deadly Night
Etc.....

those are all classic Old Horror Movies

Little Shop of Horrors-original, black and white

I don't think it has died out but I believe the last bunch they did come out with nobody liked. I think there will be more but they are going to have to be better. I am holding out for The Lost boys part 2. It looks very good so I hope it doesn't suck

Omg i love little shop of horrors.. But was the one with Rick Maranis the original?

Jack Nicholson is in the original verion of Little Shop of Horrors

Maximum overdrive and christine who would not want a car that gets revenge for u

hhw I agree anything Stephen King is a great movie

I loved Little Shop of Horrors with Rick Moranis the best.

I think that horror film story lines have changed a lot. There a lot more exaggerated now. And it seems that lately, horror films are all about go with no plot. And remake after remake after remake

I have just gone thru an rated the data base as well, and ye horror fills have become more of just thrillers these days more tham anything else. Christine , one of my very favorites , American Werewolf in London, Skinwalkers , IT ( man reason im terrified of clowns lol ) but hmm lets see the earliest horror movie i have came across was, The first horror movie, only about two minutes long, was made by imaginative French filmmaker Georges Melies, titled Le Manoir Du Diable (1896) (aka The Devil's Castle) - containing some elements of later vampire films. Which I found at :
http://www.filmsite.org/horrorfilms.html

I'm taking a class in the fall on horror films its one of my electives it should be very interesting.

Dracula s Daughter, a very good vampire movie, Bela Lugosi was supposed to star in it, but he never did, but nevertheless a very good film.

I used to look through my video catalog book and wonder why all the modern (at the time) movies are never rated more than 4 of 5 stars and the old blacka nd whites were rated so much higher on average.

A couple of years ago I started buying quite a lot of black and white movies. I found even the B movies had a lot of merit. Maybe there was no plot, or it as very hokey... but there is almost always some gem of an Idea in teh film that made it worth having watched.

It all boils down to formulae. I hate resteraunts where all the food tastes the same... it is not suposed to taste the same... each chef inthe joint should cook it a little bit differently. That makes foor good food. Sure, occasionally you're gonna come across a chef that hits every taste bud the wrong way most days... but some days the food makes you tingle with ecstacy.

Movie Formula are like Mcdonalds... you can hoose where you want to eat...

or better yet... make it yourself... read a book.

the old ones are a classic and it paved the path for the next generation of horror movies

As going thru the few hundred movie reviews, I have come across several that i havent seen in years, So i think i will go and rent of few of the older ones.
Near Dark that was always a good one, the lost boys, embrace the vampire where alyssa milano made her film debut....

Rayne

I like the old horror movie frankinstine the old black and white one

Frankenstein

Classic is 20 years or older

something made in the last 10 years isn't classic.

Dracula 1931 is classic

Frankenstein 1931 is classic

The Wolfman 1941 is classic

House of the Damned 1963 is classic

Ah yes dear Velvet - the old Hammer - black and white. It is much darker in tone than many others. Dark Wolfman I agree with your sentiments about what defines the "classic horror" genre.

the finesse of the old style of horror movies, the look and feel are definatly dying in this more computerized generation back then things were very hands on and now? very sad if you ask me

Also "30 Nights" just came out of the cinema. It is true there are plenty of NEW vampire movies to choose from. They've just evolved somewhat into a different kind of vampire, like people say, a more futuristic one to keep up with the times.

30 Days of Night was based on the Graphic Novel and it is on dvd already

Dark Wolf, it says "came out of the cinema" does it not?

...Yes, it does.

JUST...you forgot JUST

Here, it did JUST come out of the cinema, not too long ago. Different countries have different release dates...

DURH.

Ok...but it would have been wiser to say...where I live it just came out in the cinema.

I didnt even think about it. I have better things to do than pick at peoples posts with things that are irrelevant :)

Am I interrupting anything here?

*ahem* :)

I think that since computerization has become such a staple of the film industry, the old films have died out. It's all about shock and awe now...how much blood can be splattered across the room and how much flesh can be ripped off of someone's neck during the bite.

Diary of the Dead for example uses CGI for the bullet wounds and head shots...instead of old school F/X.

As time progresses forward, so will the style of movies, and there is not much we can do about that

While I absolutely love the new special effects, the plots seem to get weaker though, don't you think?

As I stated before...movie makers are making movies for profit not for the movie goer.They use more CGI effects..and explosions...instead of good plot and acting.

I think it's probably just been overdone. A few things have come out but not nearly in the rate that it used to...Things are changing, I guess only time will tell whether they'll die out or not.

Hmm old Horror movies.. The only thing comes to mind is swampthing.. I also like the dracula movies.. Black and white is the best don't you think.

I do not feel that the old style of horror movie is dying, it just does not have the following that it used to have because of technology and CGI. Romero is always making great flicks in the old horror style.

hmmmm....I think this generation - at least the generation of movies - is truly slash and gore, which is horror but totally different than the old Dracula and wearwolf. Not that I'm knocking slasher films - Saw was great - at least the first one was...then it petered out a little...anyway I think that gore is in right now and it will circle back around at some point - we've had some recent vampire flicks, but nothing spectacular - Blade and such...

I'm with ya UnderVampsGaze...I think the old black and whites were the best, by far.

I do enjoy a lot of the computerized mumbo jumbo that goes on now, but sometimes ya just need to go back to the basics ;)

But most new horror films are just gory remakes full of sex without a real plot. I like older horror films a lot more personally =)

I just loved the Freddie Kruger movies he was one awesome evil character. The movies kept everyone on their seat edge and scared everyone. I think it would of been one of the greatest movie series to come out, the same story line with the same main actor. Now they tend to swap and change the lead actor so it is more unbelievable...

Directors and writers tend to change things from the books so they have their own little input. They cant have a movie which is based on someone else's ideas totally. They wouldnt be remembered that way.

I think these things go in cycles. After awhile we start to miss our favorite "Golde Oldie", and for some reason Hollywood brings 'em back right around the time we get to missing them.

i disagree, there has been a resurgence of old style horror movies lately. i dont mean black and white, hammy acting, cheesy SFX - but movies about vampires, werewolves, monsters etc are more popular than ever. they are different in some ways - Blood and chocolate, Underground, and other movies of that nature show it more from the "monster's" point of view than the frightened villager / fearless hero POV, but even the gothic setting is making a strong comeback. i dont know about Australia, but certainly here the supernatural v modern life movies like Poltergeist, and the unstoppable psych-killer movies like Friday 13th are all old hat now, and people prefer the fantasy of gothic horror.

To put a different spin on this topic, it is not that Hollywood abandoned the old monster favorites, it is that they see movies as an investment.

Movies are marketed for release on particular weekends and to make as much money as possible in the shortest amount of time.

Would we see a release of the Hammer films today? Probably not. I would only hope that the Sci Fi channel would make better Saturday night movies with the old favorites instead of Pterodactyl starring Coolio.

the older movies were the best!
They don't make them like that anymore!
And the big directors don't have any new idea's so they are re doing old films and making them crap!

Well because of the constantneed for supply and demand todays industry seems to be growing rapidly whanting only the newest up to date stuff rapidly fading out the old school horror movies that now or days just arn't scaring people like they whant out of a horror movie. With all of todays technology its just making it no contest to the older modern day horror classics that use to be top notch in its day.

Most everyone knows that Nosferatu was one of the first "horror"movies made...silent film.But horror is really the movies that started in the 1970's "Horror" movie era...with The Texas Chainsaw Massacre,Friday the 13th,etc.

Hammers House of Horror is classified as Horror because of Horror in the title...but alot of his films were in the Terror classification.Terror movies terrified the masses more the horrifiying them.House That Dripped Blood(1971) was a terror movie...not a horror movie....Even though it is classified as horror.

there are some rumors in the horror field of recreating the original dracula I know the wolfman is being remade but not sure on dracy

I wonder who will get the role of Dracula? I have also heard that Johnny Depp is going to be playing Barnabas Collins in a movie remake of the old 60's soap Dark Shadows.

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