If you to google or youtube, Type in UFOs, Ghosts, Bigfoot or supernatural beasts, You'll come up with hunderds of webpages offering proof of there existance. If you do the same for vampire's, All your likely to get is Tale's of legends. No video's, rarely "First hand accounts" No proof what-so-ever. This obviously suggests that they dont exist.
What are your thoughts?
Do you beleive that Vampire's are real and that somewhere there is proof, Or, do you beleive vampire's are legend and legend only meaning no proof is attainable?
P.S Links to site's claiming proof are welcomed. :)
I believe that vampires do exist. They might be a hidden breed in the world but I feel that they are there. I don't have any actual proof that vampires do exist but we never know what is out there.
Here are some links that I found. Not sure if you have these or not.
http://www.dagonbytes.com/vampires/history/arnoldpaul.htm
http://www.vampiresamongus.com/history.html
i agree they excsist , altho were is the knowledge, were they stand and etc.
Forgive but I am not following the question that you are asking. The only thing that I can find on the web pages are the two that I listed.
I believe that humans who live a vampire lifestyle exist.
The legendary vampire that lives in books and in Hollywood...no.
No immortals feeding off of blood...none of that. No.
I guess that's where someone is into drawing energy from someone else, either through blood or psychically....or bloodplay.
I guess that's a fair assumption of it.
I do not believe in the existance of vampires. By that I mean I do not believe someone has to drink blood in order to survive, will burst into flames if they go outside during the day, or can live forever. I do believe that some people have chosen to live a sort of vampiric life style, I am sure there is plenty evidence of that...but I highly doubt the existence of the vampires of legend.
I suppose another question within this question is "What do you consider to be a vampire?"
You wrote, "If you to google or youtube, Type in UFOs, Ghosts, Bigfoot or supernatural beasts, You'll come up with hunderds of webpages offering proof of there existance. If you do the same for vampire's, All your likely to get is Tale's of legends. No video's, rarely "First hand accounts" No proof what-so-ever. This obviously suggests that they dont exist."
Just because you're able to find information on these topics or beings, doesn't mean they exist any moreso than vampires, it only means there is more inofrmation available on those topics. Otherwise, why do a google search when you're on a website that is the largest vampire database around? Looking for information on vampires? Read Vampire Raves members articles, check out the VR database, do a forum thread search, there's plenty of information right here on this site!
Just because information is limited on a certain subject, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
My thoughts exactly Bones!
I was about to offer up vampirerave.com as website that actively discusses everything vampiric. There are old forum threads that discuss the origins of vampires in various cultures around the world. Vampires are by no means a recent creation of the mind and the idea of a blood-sucking creature can be found in the historical Mayan and Egyptian civilizations. There are tales of vampire like monsters in China called kiang shi. Nepal and India have their own folklores about vampires as well. For more contemporary references, I would suggest checking out UpirLikhyj's profile and journal about Slavic Vampires.
Do a forum search on “real vampires” “the history of vampires” “Lilith” and a plethora of threads will pop up giving information detailing the existence of a legendary vampire like creature from as far back as history has been recorded on walls.
Actually I think that there is too much evidence, The folkore of many cutlures mention them, vampires are th second most widely circulated myth, legend, fact, alongside the story of the great flood. Many graves have been found with severed heads, stakes throught the heart.
The question posed in this thread is not about modern day versus mythological legends, but merely one of substantive proof of a vampire. Regardless if it is modern day or the legends of Camazotz, Kiang shi, Upir’ Likhyj, Strigoe, Lamiae, Rakshasas, or the many other names of a blood drinking creature from around the globe throughout time in combination with the self proclaimed modern day psy and sang vampires that fill this site, there is plenty of evidence especially when compared to bigfoot sightings, ghosts, etc.
I'm not sure, like someone else said, I'm sure theres more to this world than meets the eye. Maybe vampires are just good at hiding :)
"Vampires" DO NOT exist.
Humans pretending to be vampires goes beyond roleplaying.
"Vampires" are not real.
Humans who wear fangs ,pale make- up ,and drink blood are still human.
Humans are top of the food chain...even if they truly think they are a vampire.
i believe there are vampires out there, weather it be a medical mystery or just a life style choice, there are vampires out there, though i dought the hollywood vamps are roming around i do believe there are vampires
there are physical anomalies which can be construed as vampiriric, gums drawn back (big long name); aversion to sunlight (I have this); people rising early from their graves.. these things are proven.
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but, as suggested in another thread, maybe, they're just an extension of the 'human' self.. our darker side given physical credence.. a metaphor, as suggested, in that other thread.
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just my thoughts.
I believe the lifestyle of a "vampire" exists and nothing more. People attribute the drinking of blood to vampires, just look at what we named the bats :P
People do not rise from the dead to feed on the living, it just doesn't make sense. Unless there is some spot separate from logic that is full of magic and brings these creatures back to life... No... Vampires exist only in legends and popular books.
I agree with Kontradiction. It is in the lifestyle you lead. The Hollywood version of Vampires may seem to be what people want to believe in, and some choose to believe in that, but the truth is that is in only Hollywood and movies and books. Now I do believe that humans live the lifestyle, some go to the extreme and others just do it because they can, like a powertrip or something.
I have to agree, although I do believe in Psy Vampires. Those who's personalitys just suck the life out of you.
the first thing than pops to my mind is google search SEAN MANCHESTER
I myself have wondered many times, and after a lot of reasurch i came to the conclusion that In the legendery sence...no. Or the way they are portrayed in Hollywood movies. But there are people that i know of and personally know that live a vampire lifestyle.
There is also proof that vampires in a different sence exist, here is the link from youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=539xWgHhatM
That is so true not real prove of vampires but i feel they are real and were of a difrent nature
Also i feel there are difrent kinds of vampires
I am not advocating the true existence of the Hollywood take on vampire mythology, but there are indeed many instances of vampire like creatures across the globe in so many remote areas that one has to ponder how these folklores existed and thrived.
The "vampire lifestyles" that many of you speak of are not a recent development. The proof exists in oral history along with recorded writing and pictures dates vampire like creatures over 5000 years old. Is the modern take or "vampire lifestyle" mimicking these traditional folklore or are they a representation of how perhaps small groups of individuals throughout history partake in a counter culture ritual of blood drinking?
Vampires just are too clever to get caught then?
Most of this footage of bigfoot and other myths tends to be proven false anyway. This means in the end that it truely is up to what you as a person beleives, and scientific evidence can just go take a long walk off a short peir. Thats how I feel anyway.
Ok again I agree with Dragon tears .. in a sense.. I mean actually all the stuff you see on YouTube / Google etc.. about any of these things whether it be Vampires WereWolves, Bigfoot etc.. can be explained as real or false... just however they want to believe it to be.
Grant it I know several people whom live a vampiric Lifestyle (by Choice) and people whom believe they are WereWolves etc.. yet as far as actually existing well until it can be proven without a shadow of a Doubt.. I believe in many things.
Just my 2 cents is all. :)
So if some Disease and Illnesses, lead people to believe in vampire, existed, and they did. Since then we have been blessed by advancements in heath care, to cure of heal those things once considered vampire proofs.. so we have cured the Vampire out of existence.
“Satan’s greatest deed was convincing man that he does not exist”. Let’s take a practical look at this. Let’s say a vampire; the undying kind is walking amongst us feeding on the non weary. A creature of this stature would be wise enough to know that if he was ever discovered or if actual proof of him came forth the hunt for him would begin and would end in his demise. A vampire could not exist if he was happily smiling for a camera or posing for pictures, I mean come on, and that would be suicide. The first rule for the vampire is telling no one who or what you are. The true vampire would be the one throwing doubt to those who believe in his existence. He would not ant to be discovered and if you found his true identity and had proof, he would quickly destroy you and anyone you told about it. And if it did slip out it would simply be considered the ravings of a lunatic. Truly that is how legend is born, how the vampire would survive.
For a site dedicated to Vampire Fiction, It always amaze's me at how many different opinion's about vampire's there is.
you know if you think about it....these creatures are countless centries old.....they would have the inteligence to not leave evidence.....try looking for unsolve muder cases.....do i believe in them...yes
'To every myth, there is some truth'.
I hold that to be true.
I don't think mythological vampires have ever existed, however, I do believe legends were made from sightings of creatures like them.
The proof is right here. People who take on the lifestyle....that's the real vampire. The Hollywood type vampire I don't think you're gonna find.
My opinion at least.
Aren't those who follow the lifestyle usually considered 'vampyric'? I believe there is a difference.
The lack of evidence that something exists doesn`t necessarily means that the thing does NOT exists.
Somebody kills someone and hides the body.I am the policeman that investigate the case and I don`t find the body.
That doesn`t mean that the person is not dead.
;)
Also that doesn`t mean that I can be sure it`s dead.
Bones - your right, just because theres info,vids what have you on the subjects of what was listed doesnt mean they exsist! There have been many hoaxes and stuff on these subjects.
my opinion - Vampires may exsist, like witches and wizardsand all those things that go bump in the night. We all know why the word vampire comes from, vlad the impalor. He didnt drink human blood, but did drink sheeps blood, or so i am told. We may never find out if they exsist, or we may already know. I think you dont have to drink blood to be a vampire, feed on other people, and if i were a vampire i would not wish to be known as one!
Vlad the impaler .. didn't drink anyone's blood.. and "vampire" is not coming from him..
This is what i have heard, about the blood drinking. As for the vampire it does say it somewhere in wikipedia.
I do not go to YouTube, or the like, to look up information as I would not consider them to be the most credible places for research. That said.......
The answer to this question depends on your definition of the word vampire.
If you are referring to vampires, such as the "undead" creatures depicted by Bram Stoker, Laurell K. Hamilton and Anne Rice, then I would have no definitive answer.
If you are referring to mortal blood drinkers (i.e., Vlad Ţepeş, Erzsébet Báthory, Gilles de Rais, Fritz Haarman, John Haigh) and those of today who are Sanguinarians and Psi Vampires--then a definite yes.
I found the following to be an interesting read:
What is a vampire?a>
Vampires are just better at hiding and disguises ^^
I mean they've had hundreds of years to perfect their ability to go unnoticed.
So, I think it would be hard to actually get proof.
We dont even know if vampires live forever, to me no one can, its not physicly possible. We have only gathered this info through stories and movies like the ones listed above.
Maybe they better conceal themselves as other things do not.
Or maybe they dont exsist, like i have said in the other thread going around about were-wolves -
There have been so many stories movies and folklaw past down through generation that it is hard to tel what is real and what is not. We all have the preception of vampires as mean blood sucking imrotal beings that have been around forever, am i right? We do not know for sure what is real and what is not.
I cant remember even knowing about vampires till my teens. and then yeah it was cool to watch these perceptions on dvd's and videos and reading about them in books, and we have all at some point wanted to be one. Like many other threads on here the hand all points in the same direction to the stories and movies. there may be only a millagram of true in them.
I truly believe if you think, feel and live life like a vampire then you are one. evidence or not..
of course they are real! People just dont make this stuff up
not to mention...gee um...most of us on this site are one!
vampires exzist... they are just too smart to get caught on camera XD
of course vampires exsist people just reject the unfamiliar.. and that sucks
I think there is a lack of evidence of vampires because of their own self preservation.
They could win an all out war with humans, but when they won, who would they feed from?
Right now, they are nothing but a myth, & they can pick off humans undiscovered & feed without being exposed
I dont believe they exist. If they did there would be evidence of thier existence. Just like bigfoot and loch ness monster, etc. At least with the later there are first hand accounts of these creatures, where are the first hand accounts of vampires
I would have to believe what mysterstikki had to say believe he is right vampires do exist in many ways but its the movies that portray them differently. He actually answered your question has right as I can seem to agree with him.
see i may not have websites but i do have a book that talks about real supernatural beasts. in it they talk about count von dracula son of dracula the impaler. count von dracula is the real deal when it comes to vampires that is why when that stupid abc show "scariest placest on earth" happens and people go to his castle they never do come back or they run as fast as they can. dracula is still alive that is why transivania is the way it is.
i have complete faith they are real,they're just as constance said,too smart to be caught. i believe they live a life separated from us.
Where did the idea that they had to be blood drinking come up, lol? If one were say like those that are cliche', that most think of as a vampire, why would they make themselves known? I would think they would stay in the shadows and let humans make up all the nutty stories they can about them so no one would recognize one if they ever saw one. It's called misinformation for survival.
my thought process tells me that vampires are mythical and are of folk lore. Vlad the Impaler. People believed was a vampire, but if you look at that part of history, he was just crazy and figured out a way to keep back the enemy, which was terrifying and twisted. My heart however, wants to believe in vampires, as I see the sexual side of the vampire as all encompassing to myself. They are sexy at least, the vampires of todays novels. Back in Lagosse days he was hideous.
Just because there is a certain lack of evidence for something does not mean it does not exist that just makes it a little harder to find. I DO believe that vampires exist. Most things in legend have ,something however small it may be, some truth to it.
I have a friend - let me tell you - she's a freakin vampire...totally.
You hang out with her for an hour and you feel like every bit of the energy and love of life has been sucked out of you - truly. I don't know if it's just the depression - but even when she's "up" she's still leeching any 'good' that you feel away from you....sheesh it's scary
here Is A list I Found Of Other Vampires
Taken From Vampgirl.com
Historical 'Vampires'
(other than Dracula)
Gilles de Rais (1404-1440) - Cannibalism, Sorcery, Sadism, Necrophilia, Vampirism.
Elizabeth Bathory (1560-1614) - Sadism, Vampirism.
Gilles Garnier (Late 16th Century) - Blood Drinking, Lycanthropy, Cannibalism.
Clara Geisslerin (Late 16th Century) - Witchcraft, Cannibalism, Vampirism.
Peter Plogojowitz (1725) - Vampirism.
Arnod Paole (1727) - Vampirism.
Marquis de Sade (1740-1814) - Extreme sexual deviance, Sadism.
Antoine Leger (d.1824) - Rape, Murder, Cannibalism, Vampirism.
Sergeant Bertrand (Mid 19th Century) - Corpse mutilation, Necrophilia, Vampirism. Dubbed the 'Vampire of Montparnasse'
Vincenzo Verzini (Late 19th Century) - Corpse mutilation, Murder, Vampirism.
Fritz Haarmann (1879-1925) - Corpse mutilation, Cannibalism, Vampirism, Selling of 'Body Parts'. Dubbed the 'Hanover Vampire'
Peter Kurten (1883-1931) - Rape, Murder, Vampirism. Dubbed the 'Vampire of Dusseldorf'
Victor Ardisson (Early 20th Century) - Illegal Exhumation, Necrophilia. Dubbed the 'Vampire of Muy'
John Haigh (d.1949) - Murder, Vampirism. Dubbed the 'Vampire of London'
Wayne Boden (Late 20th Century) - Murder, Rape, Strangling, Vampirism.
I do not have the proof that I need in order to believe. I would like to believe, but again, need proof.
Actually, since we would be considered thier food source, would we really want that. Assuming they existed, what if they like the rest of the world started to expand territory? It would not take long to either exhaust your food supply or turn enough people into vamps to solve the problem of being a minority.
Its not good to go by lists some people make. I have researched many people who some claim are vampires and most of the claims have been way later and some very recently. Some have urban legends built up about them when you look into court transcripts of testimony, such as Bathory. I don't know where they got the idea she bathed in blood because when they did the trials both of which she never attended there was no mention of drinking or bathing in blood. She was a sadist...she got pleasure out of torturing and killing young women. Only reason she got caught was because she killed some of noble blood. Don't get me wrong she did some pretty outrageous things. This is the first time I ever heard of de Sade being labeled a vampire. That's a new one on me. There are a lot of things floating around these days that are simply untruths that have built up around people. How can you get evidence when a lot what is out there is erroneous anyway?
i believe that vampires do exist but there isn't any proof because people today aren't very open to what is seen as different so vampires aren't as open to show proof of what they are
I like the vampire idea, because frankly, it is a good way to flush out people that lack independent imagination, those that highjack the creativity of others stand out among those that have role playing skills, beyond saying over and over again, I am a vampire. We have some people here with shallow claims, and others with tentative claims, who resort to throwing rhetoric around in the face of questioning( simple questioning, even from those symathetic to their claims.) so to me a person that has the whole package down.. stands out among the posers.
i think it's because vampires are still a mystery and yet even in todays society alot are closed minded and don't wish to believe that such a creature can exist.
i believe most vampires keep a secretsy around themselves,wouldnt you if you knew you would be judged and possibly would have to fear your immortal existance.
Folklore vampires I think really do not exist, the life style of a mortal(sorry we all are) and their fasination with vampiric culture do exist. so when we understand this the culture and society we have or will create makes us vampire by nature of breaking socities fears.
Wolf is right.. If you live the lifestyle then you are one..

Personally I think Vampires do exist but not in the classical way people think. I also believe that these vampires aren't out to get attention.
Most of what people think as a vampire is fiction and nearly ALL those who claim to be a vampire (vampire, lycan, allergic to sunlight etc) are delusional.
As for "first hand" proof I can't really provide a video lol And on the genetic side there's really no studies that have been done.
I think that vampires do exist because there is a spell that I am aware of that a person can say to become a Vampire but they won't be a born vampire.
I believe that the vampires from in the movies are not real at all.
how about some of us contain vampire DNA from the times when angels found the maidens fair.. yes nephilim. Which means from the sky not giants.
Just as we have a built in fear of spiders n snakes so do we fear them and those of us who contain it are showing signs of the DNA mix….. just a idea
ok heres my theory:
I think that as far as animated corpses go its up to the individual. There really is no proof of a corpse being animated except for teh heresay that has been passed on from people centuries ago. However, i do believe the modern day people who live the vampire lifestyle and believe they are vampires have evolved off of animated corpses. I mean think about it, humans evolved from monkeys, somewhere down the line genes altered and we became human. Who is to say that an animated corpse once existed, something happend and now we have living vampires. It's totally possible. Thats the joy of mysteries.
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I believe that Vamps exist but they are just in hiding
I say prove they don’t exists for I fear they don’t care
I hightly doubt vampires will advertise on web sites their existence wether they exist or not.
I beleive that if they exist they will chose to shwo themselves if they don,t we will never know.
This is a question that will never be answered since there is no way to actually verify the information and its validity.
I mean put DNA test prooving the vampire "gene" then we may speak of ways to proove after that online with hair sample or pictures or even interviews.
Hmmmm reanimated corpses sucking blood of the living? for Hollywood perhaps but for us? no the fictional vampire as we all know and come to love are boxoffice numbers,but we that are Vampires, Lycans etc, yes we are real living breathing creatures, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle once said "the best place to hide something, is in the open, where everyone can see it"
I wish we could separate the genres of vampire
Life styles are real
Myth are 50 50
Fictional is just that …
I thought that the vampire's ability to go unnoticed is what made it so terrifying. I mean, think about it, if someone says "I'm a vampire." do you believe them? No, you don't. You don't because of all the stories you've read, heard and seen. It seems to fantastical. It's like hiding in plain sight. Any evidence that might come out will only be laughed away as being fictitious.
Here is something for everyone to ponder. A vampire is generally considered to be a being that lives off the blood of another to live. EVERY HUMAN begins life living off the blood of their mother in the womb. Does that prove the existence of over 6 billion living vampires? If you prefer to think of energy vampires, how about the fact that everyone of us (humans) lives off of the energy of other living things whether of plant or animal origin. The energy in those once living things is transformed from one type to another to run our bodies. So is that proof?
They do exist and they wouldn't go around blabbing that they are one to everyone around the world either. They would be choosey on whom to speak to about such things but i'm sure after living the life of one, it wouldn't be a great deal to them probably, no more than it's a big deal that we're humans. It's just a fascination to us probably because it's more of a kept secret which makes it more alluring.
we have to believe in what exsist. There are alot of things that cant be seen, proved, that alot of believe in.
I don't believe they exist, nor have I ever met one. ;) There is no proof around because they don't really exist. Someone that can live forever and turns to dust if the sun shines on them? Um, no.
I don't think that you have to disbeleif something because it is apparently unproven, if that's the case why there'd be faith?
Anyway as for vampires I believe in more in the people who live the vampire life style rather than the immortal one, it seems more realistically to me.
they do exist but not like what the tails suggest i am one and im proud of it and im like an ordanary person you wont know im one untill i bite your neck and draw blood and i see blood i have to suck the blood form some one so they do exsist and im here to tell you that
http://www.sanguinarius.org/guide.shtml
I use this website a lot when I am in school, so I can keep control.
Anyway, yes they are real. Just because people care more about a monster in a loch that they seemingly aren't scared of then something that you see in horror movies. It seems like people rather pursue things that won't kill them.
wow, so ya im back to the where's the proof, same problem with Christianity gotta have faith i guess, at least the Christians have a good majority to support there stories!!
I dont think people should stop believing in them because theres no proof.. There also isnt any proof that they dont exist..
Just because we cant see them or dont hear 2much about them does not meaning they are not out there just better at keeping a low profile I say
The internet is full of stuff on Vamps.Granted,the info might not be all that great,but,its there.I have a feeling it isnt because they dont exsist persey,but more along the line that our perception might be pretty far off the mark as to what they really might be.
'Always let one live, so that others may know.'
As I understand it, vampires are a secretive bunch. Intelligent too, now, if they wanted to be secretive, I am sure they'd be able to be. Their mythical lifestyle doesn't really call for many survivors to go out and tell the tale either. At least, not first hand.
I belive they exist, I just think there very well hidden.
A vampire to a normal person is what they have seen on the tv and in movies, books and other media. What is a vampire. Who created the word, the imagery? A vampire is something different to every one person. My definition is different from yous. So who are we to say whether they exist. The air exists, you cannot see it, but it is there. Are aliens on other planets? How do we know? Just because we do not see them does not mean they are not real.