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I have been a member here before…years ago…and then even years before that. And each time I have seen this discussion over “Real Vampires” and “Posers”. I am going to have to say right now…I am a POSER! WE ARE ALL POSERS! Well…unless one of you are going to stand up and claim to be immortal? Any takers for that claim? We would all love to be the REAL DEAL…I know I would…I would take it in the blink of an eye…but…that is not going to happen…I am forever until my death destined to be a POSER!

And you know what? I am fine with that! I do not use the vampire moniker because I drink blood and am immortal. As the young one are being taken by the Twilight vampires…I was taken by Anne Rices vampires. I immediately identified with their thoughts…it was like she was writing my very own…in spirit I was their kith and kin. I fell in love with their style…they were everything I always thought a vampire would be in actuality.

Many of you…as I have seen…are quite knowledgeable on the history of the beginnings of vampires…and that’s just swell…but as you quote from many generations before you on the fact of the folklore…just remember…you…as well as I…are a poser. Can not we all finally have a word…a place…to let our spirits be as they are? Perhaps...even have a little fun?

My thoughts and desires channel perfectly through the moniker “Vampire”. That is why I use it…well…that…and I look damn good with pale eyes and sharp little fingernails…don’t you think? *straightens tie*

As to your point ~Mr. Tu~, there are those within society that would claim that their selective paths are the real deal and would defend them unto death if nessessary (rather unfortunate) for their own philosophies and values. Which in turn takes the idea of the vampire to a completely new level as well as completely out of context.

I confess I enjoy a theatrical persona of vampires, I am more drawn to the goth angle on the site, but any compelling portrail of vampires is fine by me. I find a few well written short stories on here as well, what I notice missing from those who so desperatly want to convince others they are vampires, is anything remotly creative.

Well...if they are willing to stand before me...let me shoot them with a .357 in the chest...and then are still tap dancing...I'll buy it.

Yes...I have never understood the bias against vampires such as Anne Rices...they had style...they had intelligence...they knew loyalty...they even had humor and a mean streak at times a mile long...what is better than that? Sign me up!

I make a mean deck in Vampire The Eternal Struggle, a collectable card game, I dig the story line, I can see how people adopt this character type.

*Applause*
Indeed, there's nothing wrong with having a little fun. Admiring these vampires doesn't mean we think we ARE them- people need to loosen up. :)

Wait a minute now, a self proclaimed vamp now states that they are not vamp at all?

Would you clarify the reason why you would deem it nessessary to use the title of vampire, as in being a member of the vampire community? As well as why the vampire community calls themselves a fictional name, instead of something differant such as "indigo children"?

That is, since it is all in good fun?

Do you refer to me? I think I have stated very clearly why I use the moniker "Vampire".

Actually I was referring to ~PandoraZel~... No offense to be taken by anything I post, I would simply like clarification.

Admiring FICTIONAL vampires doesn't mean that we think we are exactly like FICTIONAL vampires.

Many people seem to think that just because a vampyre admires fictional vampires, he/she is insane and believes him/herself to be one of them, with immortality, superpowers, etc.- when in fact, we don't.

Does that clarify things?

i think the books the movies are only good for aesthetics but otherwise if anyone takes the fictional characters used by such as anne rice or anita baker or whatever and whole heartedly takes that as being a vampire without any further soul searching then yes i feel those are role players,the kind that go to sci fi conventions

No offense to be had here, but I see that spelling of the term "vampire" and "vampyre" is being used alot.

If those who would not use the fictional spelling with an "i" in relation to the vampire, then why call themselves vampire at all, instead of something such as "indigo child"? Since the word vampire no matter what spelling is so broad that one could contradict themselves on many occasions when in reference to the term vampire no matter which spelling.

I do not claim this is fact...this is what I was once informed..."Vampyre" is used referring to a female and "Vampire" for male...*shrugs*...what I was informed.

i had seen the "vampyre" spelling was suppose to be the more correct spelling taken from the original latin translation. . .its all just countries and spelling/language variations. . . . .i think we call ourselves vampyre for different reasons...we glamorize aspects of characters weve seen or read about...when in fact most dont bat an eye to the thought they would have to kill others to live...watch everyone they loved die etc. . .some of us have darker natures then others on here and relate to these mythical creatures of the night.

Original Latin?
Is that the same latin that the bible is written in?

Again, somewhere there was a mistranslation or redefining of the spelling ~Mr. Tu~. Last it was translated was for the gender aspect. I do not recollect when it was changed for the fundamentals of the vampire community in aspect of "fiction" vs "place name here."

did i say anything about bible? no im not a christian and vampire/vampyre is not in the bible. . . . vampire/vampyre first arrived in the english language in 1732...vampyre is closely connected to the latin vampyrus. . .it was an old way of spelling that for the most part became less common with translations of other terms such as whampir, vampir, upir etc. . .some in the vampyre community try to say that if they use it with the "y" spelling they are "true" vampyres. . .its just a spelling variation more close to the latin it was translated from like ALOT of our english language is. . .

The purest question could become, why furvor over ways to stake (pardon the pun) claim of being vampire at all?

To me, it is just rediculous that any self proclaimed vampire would go out on a limb with stereotypes just to prove their case with terminology rather then physical facts, such as ailments and the like.

You know, medical documentation and or research thereof.

yeah thats true. . .cuz if anybody was actually a "real" immortal vampire it would be BIG news and headlines. . .theyd probably end up as some lab rat inn a government facility. . . .and most pick and choose their "vampire" abilities and flaws how they want from different movies. . .now with twillight all of a sudden vampires twinkle in the sun instead of burn to ash. . .lol

Well I dont mean to break the rules or get off topic but I am a poser for the sake of truth I say this but what is a poser a fake what about the devil well is he not a poser oh no your not a real devil your a poser sure the devil is the greatest poser of all time but should I say hey poser you are not real is it not the same with vampires?

Hmm, from a theological perspective the "devil" would exist as a metaphor for the evil that society does. "The devil is in all of you" paraphrase from Rob Zombie.

Though the vampire as it is just as broad of a term as the devil is, could be metaphor for "feeding" in ways that the average individual does not, such as "put name here." for example.

Again, the two concepts carry such broad scopes that to identify a poseur from a fictional being is quite easy, since said fictional being could be classified how ever the author deems nessessary.

That is unless such a fictional being would have a predecessor that its ficitional illusion was based off of. Kind of like the "holy grail" analogy, that which was based as a cup but thanks to the Davinci Code by Dan Brown, has conjectured into an ancestorial pathway or bloodline.

Something to think about.

is it the same thing as being called a luke warm christian by a catholic?...im not sure what the point of this thread is anymore lol

well a metaphore what is it like one bad apple ruins the whole bunch or you cant judge a book by its cover or you are what you eat is that what you mean my a metaphore

In suggestion to the definition of the word metaphor:

NOUN: 1. A figure of speech in which a word or phrase that ordinarily designates one thing is used to designate another, thus making an implicit comparison, as in “a sea of troubles” or “All the world's a stage” (Shakespeare). - American Heritage Dictionary

well its seems that all is a pose when I was six years of age on hallowsEve I was dracula I was dressed very nice my hair was done and I have been blessed with a real widows peak I had my best glow in the dark fangs my golden dracula madalion my pointy black shoes and I say when trick or treating greetings may I have a bite of some sweets I love dressing up on hallowing three times only in my life was I dressed as dracula once I mentioned before and next when I was twelve and the last time when I was 18 years old so maybe Im not as good of a poser after all I only got to be dracula three times but now I am on the rave is that such a pose

No, that would be considered a "prose." HA!

well jokes on me ha but whats a prose anyway its good to see some real posers who wants to be a fake poser anyhow but if I am a fake vampire poser then I will be the first one to say yes I am realy fake ha ha and that just shows how real I am get it realy fake how is my fakeness realy fake if my fakeness is real but is that a pose

Prose:

NOUN: 1. Ordinary speech or writing, without metrical structure. - American Heritage Dictionary

Next time, just look it up.

To swing this thread back on track and away from the pointless bickering (yes, we all see how smart you are now shut up for a minute) I'm going to post what I did in the 'poser alert poster alert' thread because I believe it will be better received here and taken for what it is, a simple statement of fact as filtered through my lens rather than an attack on those desperately clutching to the term poser:

Poser: [poh - zer] noun Human.

All florid language aside, even the most blood thirsty, 'tortured', 'dark-souled', gothiest goth is a poser. A vampire by definition is a fictional beast or literary device. We all have differing definitions but that is because it is fun to explore and expound upon the idea of a perfect, immortal form. There needs to be a new term for those who naturally resemble-or strive to out of vanity-the perceived qualities of a vampire. Even if you drink blood or draw upon someone's energy you are not a vampire but a leech. A completely worldly, based in reality and upon Earthly physics, leech. You are a squishy wolf in a preternaturally manipulated suit of defiled sheep corpse, but beyond all of those misnomers you are unequivocally and irrevocably, human. My apologies.

Acting and modeling your personality or physical traits after a creature you find intriguing is natural, the image of Zombie Man comes to mind, but know and accept that it is all in good fun and in worship of the all mighty ego.

And leave the P-word at home, people bandy it about all too often, wielding it with quivering white knuckles in mad hope that the one who screeches it first and with the most conviction is exempt from it's acid truth. This is not Salem, there are no witches here, just fun-loving men and woman gluing warts on their noses and skipping around on broomsticks; much to the bemusement of those sniggering in the corner, wartless but wielding wands and chanting. The mopy ones with bondage robes and wild green face paint smoking out back are with the party too.

I say *cheers* to the romance of the legend of Vampires and to the fun of it all.
My hat..I mean cape...off to you, Mr. Tu. Well stated.

The glorious Mr Tu and PandoraZel have given us both ends of the spectrum.

Nothing wrong with being a poser or role player, it's simply a matter of a line being drawn to seperate those who enjoy their individual lifestyles.

(My point about Latin is that the bible wasn't written in Latin either)

Lest we Forget...

I know most of you are not Canadian... but some of you may have seen the Hilarious House of Freightenstein anyway. For many of us this delightfully twisted Campy romp of childrens programming of the early 70's is the ergot in the cauldron.

There were a few other good campy Vampire films out there as well, and I mean campy... not stupid.

Enough with the bickering on this topic. You can disagree with other member's opinions without being insulting or argumentative.

I would like to see the discussion continue to develop but not if all is for it to degenerate into a fight.

Great posting Mr.Tu!
It really is about time to put the fun back into this topic as it has been beaten to death under many guises.
Im not going to delve into the dos and donts of the linguistics,but I can say that I personally like the spelling Vampyre better.Dont know why,I just do.
And seriously,it really would be pretty kool to see or know real Vampyres as portrayed in fiction.

Well, now that I've made myself look like a completely insensitive asshole :] let me firmly state that I am a poser and a dork and a dick and all those wonderful things we call each other.

Now that the caffeine has kicked in, I think that a healthy dose of fantasy is necessary for the soul. Without make-believe and wit we would sink into a quivering pool of despair. My point was just that it is counterproductive to be too offended when someone points out the the Hot Topic tag is sticking out of your cape or an old acquaintance calls you Frank instead of Vladimir, laugh with them, momentarily bask in the glow of a shared joke and move on. Role play is supposed to be fun, don't take it too seriously or you are bound for frustration, feuds and hurt feelings.

Gal Friday, such articulate summation.


Even those who embrace cryptic idealism, would be wise to accept that some among them are intent on convincing others that they share the conviction of the collective, with the intent of mocking them for their guilibility.. "Haha they bought that, they think.. I think.. I am as they profess to be."


The implication that "mundanes" are so clueless, as to what " true vampirism" is as redundant as a Geico Commercial. Time for those who insist they are not vampires (in the traditional fiction, and lore definition) to bone up, and get a custom nomiclature.

On topic, the sign of a good theatrical persona, is when a person ask "Are you.. ?" One should rarely need to avow ones alter persona.

I don't wear Band shirts of Bands that I don't know the names of the singers, same with sports attire. I guess that detracts from my poser qualifications.

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The punk subculture classifies members who are deemed to not understand or respect the subculture values as "poseurs".Poseur (often seen as "poser") is a pejorative term, often used in the musical subcultures of punk, heavy metal, hip-hop, and goth to describe "a person who habitually pretends to be something he is not."[1] The term is used to refer to a person who adopts the dress, speech, and/or mannerisms of a group or subculture, generally for attaining acceptability within the group, yet who is deemed to not share or understand the values or philosophy of the subculture. While this perceived inauthenticity is viewed with scorn and contempt by members of the subculture, the definition of the term and to whom it should be applied is subjective and the subject of much debate. For example, the Television Personalities' 1978 song Part-Time Punks "declared that either everyone who wanted to be a punk was one or that everyone was a poseur (or both)." It argues that "the concept of...punk rock authenticity ... was a fiction."[2]

While the term is most associated with the 1970s- and 1980s-era punk and hardcore subculture, it is also used in other musical subgroups, such as the heavy metal community and in hip-hop. In fact, English use of the term originates in the late 19th century.[1] In a 1993 profile of heavy metal fans' "subculture of alienation," the author notes that the scene classified some members as "poseurs," that is, heavy metal performers or fans who pretended to be part of the subculture but who were deemed to lack authenticity

.. chose my "style", to match my character early on: a little bit goth a a kinda straight head, but alway's smart.

.. and, that is me, the fellow I had come to terms with by the age of 36.. and individual, who has done much.. and who projects his sense of self, through my that style.

That dear anglus, is the very core, a fitting custom, rather then a baggy costume.. sets the gratuitious subculture drifter, from the Sub cultural.

Few will readily state, "I am new to the scene." If by chance a person does, they will avoid the entrapment of generic experiences of same scene.. It is the responsibility of those in the scene to "induct" those who honestly seek to engage the sub culture.

In my mind alot of ppl tend to vew the sean as a "place to fit in" what truly makes somone a vamp only the godds know

This web site isn't designed too well.

There should be a place on profiles where we can select what type of profile we are

Example:

1. Lover of Vampires
2. Role Player
3. Blood Drinker
4. Energy Feeder


Then we would all feel like we belong and see eye to eye more easily with one another instead of arguing or trying to figure out who is who.

Just a suggestion.

But then those who are genre drifters will have to commit to something. Which would halt their clique switching hobby.

...i do not know anyone who has reached
the ideal state of being for any kind of
being...
so in a way, isn't everyone a poser
because we never reach perfection,
we always remain pale imitations?
and for labels, i like the interaction it
fosters...isn't getting to know who is
who part of the fabric of the site?

I may not have stated my thoughts clearly...perhaps this may shed more light (ack) on it.

Anne Rices Vampires were fictional characters with fiction thoughts, desires, characteristics and emotions...they were not real...BUT...when fiction collided with my REAL thoughts, desires, characteristics and emotions a bond formed, How after that could I not think of myself as..at least...partially vampire?

One can not identify and then consider themselves apart from it.

Why can't we each love Vampires in our own way? Some of us imitate them, read about them, and have a strong empathy for them. Hell! Some people out there worship them.

Love them as you will and leave the P word at home, it only causes arguments and fustration.

don't you think it to be a bit delusional to connect yourself with such fictation as in how vampires are portrayed in anne rice books instead of seeking out the true path of a modern day living vampyre,least in that sence there would be validity and not make believe

Well I love this topic on the poser its fair if you ask me and I dont mean to offend anyone with my lack of worldly wisdom but as the great Tu has said we could also have some fun on this topic now you can poke at me all you vaunt but just be blessed now the vampire that all love and pose to be has some waeknes things like a cross or a silver stake some garlic even holy water so when I am makeing this pose of a vampire wanabe what statement am I realy makeing and why is the fictional vampires most of the time warded away with such articles of faith like a cross well this is just a pose but think about it a bunch of church people who are so glad shuch a healer as you know who was nailed to a cross and killed that way and it makes them so happy and they say ha ha now we get to go to heaven. then along comes a vampire with fangs and drinks blood. I rather like the females blood of course? do you think its like causeing some fear in church maybe deep down inside they know its not so nice this remedy they rejoice over when they see a angel like creature with such nice nice fangs do you see what I'm trying to say a bite on the neck or arm goes much farther in my book than to abuse your prey and kill it you see so they get some crusifixes and try to chase what they fear most away but is this such a pose

points up i think i spotted the poser lol

Look...I see what you are arguing...a group has determined what a "Real Vampyre" is and it has nothing to do with being "Immortal" or any of the other traits associated to the idea of the fictional variety. I get that. The problem then is who's being delusional? I can sit here and make up my own little list of rules and just like that *snaps fingers* say that's that...I am a REAL VAMPIRE! Hardly sounds "real"...does it?

Dear Mr Tu this is just me but I truly believe you are a real vampire just by the fact that ye have been so humble to confess that you are a poser when I read what you have said and yes it is true we are not Immortal but only mortal only because we were once Immortals but what does it mean to be a real vampire maybe it means haveing more love than God but is this such a pose

To everyone on this thread, we are not posers. This site attracted all of us for some reason. So the only thing we are on here, is well... ourselves. So in theory we are not posers, unless we're clones.

A poser. Mm, but, how a poser fit in the Vampire Community? Ahh, I forget, some of the writers in this thread are "young" with a nice imagination created by a Motion Picture or a book. I do deal with the real Vampire Community, the one that exist in the underground of every metropolitan area. Those that are keeping the secret and are not poser. Poser can not even imagine what will take to be a vampire. For some, is a folk, for others, just a legend, but, for the members, is just pure reality. You must be an open minded to believe something that your mind can not comprehend. So, many will said, wow, this guy must be crazy, but, remember, we are all crazy. Crazy for the truth.

In WOD (and now only in V:TES) poseurs were an aspect of the toreador clan. They had an appreciation for the art society, but had no talent of their own. Generally they are looked down apon as hangers on, as they generally do not contibute to the society they wish to be a part of. Different from a benifacter in that a benifacter has no talent (usually) but supports the community (usually fiscally.)

time for those who do more then make believe to drop the nomiclature of vampire. Or to submit an ammendment to the definition of vampire. rather then attempt to force others assimulate, and to imply that people are "ascared" that "real vampires exist" is poppy cock, and very telling of those who imply that a grand majority of the population is rather set on the universal definition of vampire, and that those who claim to be vampire, are a grand minority, among those who convention over the obvious convention of lore, and fiction.

well I aim to be the best poser of all posers so here is my little try at poseing

greetings would you like to dine with me tonight? its been a very long road for you all please I would be honored if you might stay for a while do join me for a drink its made from some sweet neckter I think you will enjoy and be delighted to try a sip it has been ageing so wisely and has been picked from the right kind of vine please come I will serve you gladly I see that you have been very troubled in your crusade dont be afraid its fine I wont hurt you I know you are scared but I am very forgiving you dont have to try to chase me away with your cross it wont work just join me please look deep into my eyes I am what you fear most you see my fangs they were once meant for a very gifted cause but before my kind could use them our blood source was taken from us saying with tears in eyes I know this old old way of your crusade has been very very trying but do have a humble drink with me look into my eyes you will see. you will. please this wine is much better for the fruits have not been abused to get the gift of wine within them yes you know what I am talking about please I could bite you if you refuse please dont resist its not wise for if I have to bite you for resisting lets just say I have a hell of a bite please relax settle down for you would be wise to partake of my wine its my lifes work it is very strong and will help you to get ready for the transformation if you partake then I could bite you in an almost perfect way my fangs can be very merciful and feel so delightful as they enter your main vain but I warn you dont resist for I am very transparent and my bite could be devilish only if you resist so please take some time to think about it yes I will be waiting is this such a pose?

As well as drop the pretentious and threatening attitudes when someone proves their convictions as invalid in the process, and thus insulting their intelligence when it comes to calling them out on their behavioral format, as displayed with the vampire mystique.

As far as ~Iscariots~ post, it made little sense unless it is in jest and a simple fictional story about a vampire at a bar or other social gathering.

What say you ~Iscariot~?

well I am to be the best poser of all time so here is another try

welcome to my vampire bar please join me for a drink of some true blood because you need it and it has not been beaten with whips and naild with spikes nor stabed with a sword in its side you see that old feast of yours was taken by force and treated brutaly and harmed greatly and that feast was meant to be drinken nicely but before your fangs were mature and ready to partake which fangs were manifesting in all a mysterios event happend to shame the vampire saints and take away and put an end to the great gift of the vampire gods but we are not judgeing and please dont judge me for with what ever judgement you judge you shall be judged with the same judgement please no one is perfect bless those who curse you fangs come out as he smiles is this such a pose?

I am afraid ~Iscariot~ that your posts are made purely for fictional purposes, unless you claim to be that vampire being the bar...

What point are you trying to prove, that deals with poseurs?

the post meant for fictional perposes is the main tap root of a very gental vampire to restore the fictional way over to a none fictonal way of vampires thus reaching out to the fictional vampires and granting them a passage of blood rights back into the true nature of vampires so the fallen vampires or posers can use the way of the poser within them to return to harmonios union with the hiden vampire gods that have been long missunderstood thus seeing that that missunderstanding was infact a missunderstanding of them selves and see that they are real vampires that have been tainted somehow and cursed to be posers of sorts

Uh, what? I mean ~Dabbler~ constantly talks with a psychological perspective and big words, but you dear ~Iscariot~ I am afraid, to my mind.. Made little to no sense at all with that last post.

No offense to either ~Dab~ or ~Iscariot~.

sorry I have not had any blood for a while and I must take a break and get some nutreance and have a bite

and thank you for that no offence taken but please I must dine

Do what you will ~Iscariot~, more power to you.

This reminds me of a thread I posted years ago, entitled: Who should be and should not be here?

It was the most thread of mine that people responded to and was closed by the system.

I did it because I was feeling offended of seeing posts and journals about people claiming that only vampires should be here.

I don't believe I am a vampire and I don't feel I don't belong here or inferior because of this.

I think someone might have vampiric characteristics, like liking blood, having senses more developed than the average person but in the end no one knows what really a vampire is, it's all an opinion.

The fictional vampire is just that, fiction.

I don't have anything against people who choose living a life style called 'vampiric life style' it is just a life style like any other, I chose a different one.

"imply that people are "ascared" that "real vampires exist" is poppy cock". Cool!!! now, we are poppy cock. Most secret societies exist as a secret because the mind set of many. We can not change the opinion of others, but, we respect those opinion, because what they don't know, they can believe.

I agree a good thread

I like both speelings of Vampyre or Vampire depends on my mood and whom I am speaking with plus even different countries spell it diferently than others. Yet, it is alwaysthe same meaning a Dracula* if you will and I totally enjoy reading and watching all things about them. Amazing how things can be different with the whole concept of a vampire in different countries.

Markus, I question wether those who profess to be vampires even know the critiria involved, as it stands their is more dispute in "the communities" then agreance.

Hypothetically speaking, Why would a vampire defend its "postures/convictions" in a website anyways? to those who believe what they are- why the need of others acceptance? unless you live on the interest of others aspirations, or even so the attention. I see no reasonable account for debating the veracity of your self-proclamation with the same "i know what i am and where we secretly hang" argument. We just read the same 'ping pong' effect with the same answers from either sides- thread by thread.

Those who profess such thing have no clinical records of anything in the scientific community that denotes "you" a-"vampire" other than relative characteristics of that of lore, otherwise you would be a subject of study by the time you were born; yeah! you can: say, create, invent, or account your "vampirism" with historic event by distorting fact with desires, or misinterpreted accounts. To drink blood, to fuck better, or believe to extract "energy" from a subject, doesn't make you nothing different of that of human in regards of speaking in terms of genus, so the need to look for a nomenclature to separate that gap sounds more like a label that people want to imprint out of sensationalism, to have a unbalance or a diminutive difference in your makeup, interest, impressions, ideology, way of life, doesn't make anyone anything that would recur the need of a new name also. People label themselves indulged by their own self created illusion.

One thing is to have fun and find inspiration in this dark arts, and another thing is to believe is halloween everyday, or intend to feed others another belief system.

Hmmm...I'm not sure that its fair to call everyone here a poser. I myself have never made any claims of being a vampire, heck I'm not even technically goth anymore. However I do get your point, while it is all good fun to learn about vampires and picture yourself in their world, I highly doubt that most of the people on this site, if any are actual vampires, or whether vampires even exist. (sorry to be a nay sayer.)
I do not remember who wrote this earlier, but I agree with what they said - I doubt that most claiming to be vampires know the actual criteria. Wearing a nice cape and drinking someone elses' blood does not a vampire make.
But its fun to play make believe, and to step out of your skin of a day, an hour, or for however long one chooses to. Thats one of the many reasons I love vampire rave, most of the people on this site understand that and are so very accepting.

from the ammount of time some spend talking of being poseurs, one has to wonder why they're here .. and not extolling their 'virtues' .. on MySpace.

I mean, most people on VR are here to meet like-minded souls.. who is like-minded for the poseur???

[others who are also pretentious and showy!?!]

yep yeps we are all posers i admit but it's fun ^_^

~rolling on the floor giggling and poking tutu with a stick

This is a sharp stick...yes?

Angelus...why do you think a "poser" can not have vampire minded thoughts desires or even beliefs?

I Am A Poser

I run around naked sometimes and shout 'look at me' does that mean I am a poser lol!

Just by this mere statement, one may think yes! *chuckles*

I pose, therefore I am.

well if its not all a pose. please tell me why everyone is poseing? and whats so bad about being a poser? what if the garden in your back yard is a vampire? and what if all the people in the world are real human vampires ? and something happens and they have no nice fangs? but all of the humans are the vampires fangs ? like in and out of bodie experiance with a hexagram lock? and all the key talkers what would they say I love the posers they are my favs ya know? and the pirates are realy vampire saints is this such a pose? and you may be asking me why IscSun and I say cuz they have a hook on the right hand that is silver and no more right hand . I stop and drink some bluemoon. and they have a eye patch over the missing right eye stops and drinks some more blue moon ? But no it was not me it was the one armed man? got chains?

I always knew you were a poser Tu.. I am glad you admitted it!

For arguments sake and giving room for assumption.. would an immortal ever admit their existence anyway?

We all pose in our own way and it is nothing to be ashamed of. It doesn't mean we don't accept who we are, it means we are aware that each of us have many facets.

Posers have fangs too...remember that.

Respectfully acknowledged.

It all depends on how you veiw yourself. If you do see yourself as immortal in certain ways then you very well may be. Sadly we cant stop ourselves from aging, though, no matter how great that would be.

I am of the opinion, that there exists not a "true self".

Our identities are created through various means...and are constantly changing...reforming...growing.

What is true, what is false, we are layers of experience defined by concepts and semantics.

What of the details? The costumes and masks?
Remove the mask, there is nothing there.

The only reason one would have for concern, is if one deems their own identity lacking, and so feels intimidated.

Let the peacocks show their beautiful feathers, what harm is comes of it?

Don't be defined by "who you are" this is rubbish. You don't exist until you create yourself.

"Existence precedes essence."

I admit not a popular opinion at a site such as this.

*shrug*

Im sorta with you there. I believe you are who you think you are. In your reality, you are. Thats just the way it is

My thoughts.

Anne rice is a great writter and has come up with some real captivating stories. But that is the point of movies and books to allow others to become zombies to this romantic idea and maybe but for a second escape the world around in that read and in those movies. For that beauty in wearing fangs, and having that oh so dramatic appeal because that is what these people have created it to be.

I'm not saying that Vamps do not exist nor am I saying that the are not real. I come to believe that vamp doesn't necessarily have to be someone whom drinks blood and shows all those lovely characteristics that we see in these books and movies but can also be those whom naturally pull from elements and those around them to sustain their own energy. What of these occurances that are completely natural and are not something that cannot be simply ignored or disregarded.

to bad no one vaunts to go home so sad

lol.

Just for the record, i love Anne Rices Vampires, I grew up with them ^.^ literally, they lived next door ^.^

I believe that we all are posers to a point. Even if we'd care to admit it or not.....

I am a super poser do you like my vampire stings huh?
I am a super poser do you like my vampire eyes Huh?
well this my brother always says this is just a pose but
my eyes are your fingers and my nose is all the cats and my ears are your feet and my fangs are sharper than yours is this such a pose?

Is A Carrot, how quickly you pose as another profile.

this is becoming incoherent.

ThothLestat, I really have to agree with you there.

Ok GalFriday
Just to comment on your earlier post in this conversation. I am a witch. I may not be at salem, but I am a witch. lol.
To everyone. Who is to doubt someone when they state that they are some form of vampyre or vampire. >.

Thank you all for sharing i enjoyed this

No Im not a vampire nor vampyre Im a witch and this all interest me

sorry guys *takes deep breath* my post didn't go all the way though. I'll have to repost later .. don't have time at the moment

I DJ for a living so i'm one hell of a POSER

You gotta be, all those potential donors dancing at my feet what is a Vampire supposed to do.

Side note:

I left school with a bad grasp of my own language because I fell in love with music and couldn't be arsed with it. I can speak it, others understand what I say I may not say it with such poetry as you more educated members but when I have to spend half an hour with a dictionary and theasurus to understand what your post is about then its ceases to be poetic and becomes boring...

I'm sure not all of us are lucky enough to have gone to university. So sorry if i suck at it.

well iam not gonna stand here and say iam a real vampire but i do have a vampiric life style i definately drink blood and well far as being immortal may be a little pumped up in my brain that iam in fact immotal as i suffer from a sevear superman complex i been drowned in the hawaiian pipe line , i died on the opperation table more then once and i suffer from SVCS which most poeple do not servive at all from it is very rare if one does live with it, i have had 4 cancers and working on number 5 it is like nothing can keep me down i will survive now mind you iam not a young teeny bopper here iam in my 40's so iam not delustional i know i have a vampire fetish and a superman complex together they are well quite fun

Well put Liv.

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