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An eye for an eye...Makes the whole world blind? Or, serves sweet, deserved revenge and is a good life philosophy?

I feel that the "eye for an eye" approach is wrong and gets you no where, but I would love to hear the thoughts of others on the matter.




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People will get what they are due



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eye for an eye can be fun but will most likely end badly



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An eye for an eye,a tooth for a tooth is how I was raised....u cross me and your life will suffer my wrath.



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06:12:54 Nov 20 2009
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Uh, what? Is there a discussion here, or just an opinion?



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Revenge is sweet,what goes around comes around i say,if people mess with me then they have earned my wrath regardless of the consequences.



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07:26:30 Nov 20 2009
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eye for an eye is definately a good thing.hell yea...it could be fun as well



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Ah, I see. No pun intended.

Eye for an eye has such a negative connotation to it. Why must society always think in a negative light? Revenge? For what? How bad did it hurt? Why cannot bigones be just that? What does negativity benefit anyone?



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revenge makes you feel better and gives your antagonist a bloody face,depending of course what kind of revenge you act out,whether its just attacking them or destroying their lives,i like both.



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Such violent behavioral antics. Could "eye for an eye" also mean, giving this for that as in quid pro quo? Someone doing something good in return for a favor of the same?



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You know what as much as I disagree with you S.S., I actually agree with you this time around.

When something happens at that time, of course you want to go after that person and release that wrath. But every action has a reaction. and they all got consequences. Believe me I've seen some crazy stuff due to the theory an eye for an eye.



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Thank you ~JadedBeauty~, I believe the concept here is called "karma."



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screw consequences,no one get away with what they do to you,just track them down and bring down their life.i haven't had any consequences from what i have done.



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~Mortalitas~, you may sound as if you like to walk and talk, but truly... The most aspiring thing that I am reading from you is frustration being put into words. It is nice to release that bottle top every now and again and lash out onto the word via words and articles, isn't it?

Now, if you were to really deliver your convictions, I could be reading about you in mayhaps, the USA Today? Headlines that state: "Troubled individual retaliated after an 'eye for an eye' scenerio took place. Murder was the case that they game him, a life sentence may be in his future."



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heh i'm not frustrated ss neithern am i bottled up.
the thread was about eye for an eye and is it worth it or should do it and i'm saying yes,it is worth it.



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08:16:02 Nov 20 2009
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I see says the blind man.. Well then, more power to you and your philosophy.



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well we all have a different response to someone who harms/insults us and like i said my way is getting back at them,while others choose to let it go but both have consequences.



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One must abandon so much in ones life to pursue revenge, it is allowing the perpatrater to continue to rob you of your peace of mind further then what may have already been damaged, or taken.

Not to mention the potential to set in motion a plot to revenge the perpitrator you exicute revenge against.

Such an absolutist some people are.



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Ahh I heard karma being mentioned.

Who is to say you are not the physical embodiment of said person's karma? Those that harm you deserve what is coming, and if they do not get it in return from the individual they have wronged-it will bite them back eventually in equal or greater measures.

I firmly believe in the saying "eye for an eye"..why wait for someone else to do what needs to be done-when one can restore the balance within the Universe them-self?



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In modern society the belief of an eye for an eye is no longer needed nor usually commonly accepted.
For example if someone was to hurt one of my children, I would naturally want to hurt them back. By doing so I would only be hurting my family more by taking the chance of going to jail and not being able to support them. It would make better sense to press charges on the other party. I would then know not only is he being punished, but perhaps his family is as well.



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I think that what's happening to society, criminality, betrayal, etc...is caused mostly from revenge.

What one can do to make it stop?



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09:59:54 Nov 20 2009
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why stop it? chaos is a part of this world.



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I thoroughly agree..this world will always have chaos..without it-the world would not be complete.



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"In modern society the belief of an eye for an eye is no longer needed nor usually commonly accepted."

I disagree.. With the testimonies from the last three posts as well as most of the criminal investigations done by our judicial system, one can ascertain that the "eye for an eye" method is very much in use in this day and age.



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13:53:32 Nov 20 2009
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Very true SS. American government uses it all the time. "What better way is there to teach someone that killing is wrong than to make them suffer for years and then kill them?" I do believe that's the "eye for an eye" and then some.



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"An eye for an eye"... Very nice... it definitly applies to my lifestyle and always will.



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I don't see where the mere handful of people posting here represents the majority of society.
Murder is not the only capital offense. So how is it an eye for an eye when a rapist is put to death?



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That would be karma. The eye for an eye, would be the rapists sentence. The crime was committed, and thus the penalty served. The revenge scenerio would be placed by the judge in the form of the judicial system.

I think we are missing the big picture here. The term "eye for an eye" or the term Lex Talionis as it originates from:

Various ideas regarding the origins of lex talionis exist, but a common one is that it developed as early civilizations grew and a less well-established system for retribution of wrongs, feuds and vendettas, threatened the social fabric. Despite having been replaced with newer modes of legal theory, lex talionis systems served a critical purpose in the development of social systems — the establishment of a body whose purpose was to enact the retaliation and ensure that this was the only punishment. This body was the state in one of its earliest forms.

The principle is found in Babylonian Law (see Code of Hammurabi). It is surmised that in societies not bound by the rule of law, if a person was hurt, then the injured person (or their relative) would take vengeful retribution on the person who caused the injury. The retribution might be much worse than the crime, perhaps even death. Babylonian law put a limit on such actions, restricting the retribution to be no worse than the crime, as long as victim and offender occupied the same status in society, while punishments were less proportional with disputes between social strata: like blasphemy or laesa maiestatis (against a god, viz., monarch, even today in certain societies), crimes against one's social better were systematically punished as worse.

Roman law moved toward monetary compensation as a substitute for vengeance. In cases of assault, fixed penalties were set for various injuries, although talio was still permitted if one person broke another's limb.[1]

Source Link found under "Antecedents."

Therefore, within the Roman law, fixed penalties were set for various injuries, so the relation of the judicial system and its methodology of practice is relevant here. Specifically if the plaintiff is out to get the defendant, then justice has been served and karma ran its course.



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You don't mention the alternative we have today of the correctional prison system. Which was my main point. We don't need to exact revenge because society would rather reform the criminal. Although some criminals are judged to be beyond reform so they get death or life in prison.



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Hmm, you make a point.. It is just too bad the the term "correctional facility" is not the true nature of what the facilities are all about. Though it is true that some inmates are there for a brief stint, there are others that are there for life without a chance of parole as well as the death row inmates.

Eye for an eye in this case, would be the defendant serving their time, but it is their choice to have the chance at a correctional treatment, that is unless they committed a crime so heinous that the death row penalty is likely. So in other words, I guess I would be using the term "karma" as a perverbial "eye for an eye" set down by universal law.

Still, I think you are looking at it the old fashioned way that seems to be irrelevant in this day and age. The old addage "spare a dime, and I will return to you a quarter."



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I will gladly agree that although we universally try to reform criminals it is a broken system. All to often we hear of repeat offenders. I just believe if we as individuals try to exact revenge we will most likely be the ones getting reformed.



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A primal degression comes with abandonment of rational reaction to tramatic events involving distinct roles in that trama, will reacting during (or in proximity to the time of the offense) one is more engaged by instinct , developed , and conditioning effect this formula of "Trigger", or " Observe and assess".



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Karma is a very true thing.

Order brings choas, choas brings order. It's a nice little circle on how that one works. You can't have one without the other.

Correctional faculities. Sometimes the individuals will realized that they really messed there life up. But than there's others and believe me I see them all the time where going back to jail is like a trophy of respect. They really walk around as if it's ok to have been in and out of jail since they were kids. I can completely agree with
~ S.S. ~. There supposed to rehabilitate the individual that did the crime and I think it actually makes them worse. That releasing them back into society is even worse especially out here, they end up coming out unable to get a job because they realized so late and than they end up on welfare for the rest of their life. it's really quite sad and kills are pockets out of taxes.

Is an eye for an eye really all that good of an idea. Between karma, choas and order, and finally correctional faculities. There are better ways of going about doing things.



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It's all fun and games til someone loses and eye. Then it's, " Hey! Free eyeball!"

I try to look at things from a funny stand point now a days.
I'm done trying to get revenge.
Instead, I play games.
The games may seem vengeful. Sometimes the ones I play are there just to fuck with people.
But it keeps me smiling and that's what people need to do.
Everyone is beautiful in his or her own way and I believe that beautiful people should never frown.
So don't mad. Don't get even. Play a game. Have fun.
Watch the other person lose and be happy. ^_^



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I'm one who believes in Karma.

One wrong, in my book, does not deserve another wrong.

Sometimes the hardest thing to do is the right thing. It's never easy, seldom popular, and never what we want to do - but it is the right thing.

Sometimes we have to rise above the behavior of others and lower ourselves to their level.



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An eye for an eye, completely old fashioned and some people still believe that if you do something to me, well- I'm gonna do something back. I on the other hand don't do that. I believe in karma so if someone does something to me, I know one way or another it's going to go back on them three times as worse. I believe this theory because I've seen it happen. :}



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There is always the danger of using the eye for an eye in cases where there is a presumed insult as apposed to a true one. Isn't that part of the argument against capital punishment, that an innocent may be put to death.
I believe there may be times for an eye for an eye but as a standard for every day living I believe the concept is too fallible. Depends too much upon the interpretation of someone who may be unstable to begin with. Such as organized government.



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"Revenge is sweet, like sugar, in a baby's mouth" . For me, revenge is necessary to satisfy yourself, when someone do to you something horrendous. If someone do something bad to me, I will be 300 yards away, + and shoot. That simple.



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A negative act, that begets a negative act in return, will only result in further negative acts.



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your best friend takes your fiancee, do tell me that it doesn't feel good, to bash his head countless times from a Volvo, to an Astra Van. Can you??



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The phase an "eye for an eye", does not mean revenge, it provides equitable retribution for the offender.



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I would take the eye and eat it!!

Yes I know it's wrong to want to hurt others.

Oh and it would be so nice to live in peace and harmony, let's be honest here...

If you shit on my door step, I'll shit in your house!



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An eye for an eye is how things tend to roll but not always. It comes down to more of people get what they give more often than not so it may not be an eye for and eye but deeds never go unrewarded or unpunished



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I would say an eye for an eye is lowering oneself, as considering the action being of a low level of being therfore creating the need or desire to retrbute makes one go to the same low level to do the same thing.

It is best to simply let things deal with themselves as I was once told, the who spit in the air will have it back in his face.

Plus an intelligent man will be silent, as the foodl will bragg of lies and false saying



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When I see people with grudges I can see the emptiness, everything that once filled them is repressed to devote to revenge.

I have seen people who reacted to wrongs done in their presence, and their is a preserved stability about them.

If in the moment I would instinctually react (not necesarily harm, or kill).

My Armys' Post is more my flavor in long running grievances with nemisis, btw, a nemisis to me is made when I offer to dismiss the actions of an enemy if they owe up to their obvious wrongs to me (or someone close to me), and they refuse the gesture out right..

Then.. It Is "Game On".



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If someone confronts me, I will afford them a quarter three times. If they continue after the warnings have been given, then I will entitle myself to a course of action that is suitable for said situation.



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The term an eye for an eye is taken from the Old Testament. It isn't about revenge, it is about punishment "fitting" a crime.

If the situation warrants it, personally I will show no mercy with my retribution. I definitely don't ascribe to turning the other cheek. I want people to know that there are consequences for the wrongs they have done me. If a person fears no consequence, in all likely hood their behaviour towards me will be repeated. I am not saying that violence is necessarily the answer. Consequence comes in many different forms.






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To which ~Lolita~, is why I stated "then I will entitle myself to a course of action that is suitable for said situation."



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I was not responding directly to your post. I do agree with you thoughts though :)



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Well the quote is fit to depand upon how much the aggressor crossed the limit... if the offence is kidddish and of no harm and little harm physically and materialstically, then we should not harm our state of mind, intellact and conscious going after it... just to leave it. if there is enough law to punish the kin, we should escape the matters to the law enforcement team. and if the ill minded society kin, doing continuous offence which do not fall in enforcement of law and juridiction, then this slogan fit to acts and if the cross border matters, this slogan is fit most...



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Integrity - Having the courage and will power to do what's right even when no one is watching.



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I believe in "an eye for an eye" simply because that was how I was brought up. I do believe that if I am harmed I should retaliate in the proper manner.



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"An eye for an eye makes the world blind."
Nothing good will come out of getting even.. unless one gains self-satisfaction from seeing another suffer... Sometimes, I succumb to that temptation. Just a lil bit.. but it's up to an individual, I guess. Things happen for a reason... The fury to get even is always there though. And it's hard to suppress it at times. But I strongly believe that we should never give in to that lust/desire for revenge. All it brings is hurt and pain. And I would never want to inflict pain upon another.
"You've got nothing on me".
That's how I live in this world.



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I think something interesting for us to examine would be the notion of Positive Morality~ our moral obligations to society extend beyond not hurting others.

I believe we should act for the greater good.... we should examine whether what we are doing is in the best interest of the greater number of people. By being the bigger person and letting someone "get away" with an action you are not fulfilling your moral obligation to society. If a person is dealt "acceptable" consequences for something they have done to you, they will be less likely to repeat the behaviour within society.




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My dear Lolita, are you telling me, that if a "moron" rape a woman, that woman doesn't have the right to get a 44 Magnum and blow the brain of the perpetrator? We are living in a world with no "Law". I put Law between quotation because the law only apply to some and not to all. Welcome to earth, My dear Lolita, Evil is always around, if you are not prepared, you tend to be a victim. Be alert!!



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Markus you should attempt to read my comment properly.



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There's "getting even" and then there's "self defense". If a woman is getting raped, she has every right to pull out whatever she wants and slice the mother fucker to shreds. It's self defence. See the difference?



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I believe in the rule or law of 3, personally. What you do to for or against someone comes back to you but 3 times better or worse.



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It doesn't have to be for the common good. I believe in looking for myself first and foremost, then only will I be be able to do anything. I don't and will not speak for the common good. Objectivism is the way to go.
Besides, only the warped will mess things up. The rest, well, we live and we learn. Hopefully. If everyone were rational individual beings, then the world wouldn't go blind as a result.



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Don't be a punching bag, either pysically or emotionally. Probably better off shrugging it off, and moving on



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Hate for hate and ruth for ruth,
eye for eye and tooth for tooth,
smile for smile and guile for guile,
scorn for scorn and love for love,
war for war and woe for woe,
blood for blood and blow for blow



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people will get what they deserve in due time. Karma can be a bitch and when someone judges another wrongly they will be judged justly in the end and it won't be a good judgement.



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i believe everything happens for a reason and of course it may not be within our reason but i believe things occur to even out the battlefield per say,i believe karma may have some help in this and feel soemtimes karma may need a helping hand,in the end i believe as long as one is content and pleased then there was no wrong doing but then i am one who believes doing what you will as long as it is pleasing to you in life,we all make our own grave so to speak just remember what you make of it is what you will lay down in.



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There is no grand plan or design. If you offend another you should expect to pay for your transgressions and will in my world. There is no free pass, once is enough.



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i was always told if someone hurts you hurt them back twice as hard, i live by it and it seems to work well



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the rede promises three old to 1 bad aciton. Karama is a viscious bithch. ANd revenge is a dish best seved cold.



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To me its on the situation...

Like if one steals, the other doesn't steal he just gets the stolen thing back legally.



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an eye for an eye, yeah what a great system. That why the word is like it is. We have a justice system that is suppose to work for us to stop us taking justice into our own hands. Dont get me wrong sometimes we need to defend ourselves and what we believe in.

There was another saying 'Turn the other cheek'. until we get away from this 'eye for an eye' policy that we tend to take we will never live in peace and harmony.



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Exactly, all of us live in countries with a legal system in place. We have no need of the eye for an eye mentality.
Self defense and the effectiveness of correctional systems are a different debate.



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What about things inflicted on us by others that are out of legal jurisdiction? People can cause you an unjust and not fall fowl of the law. Should they be allowed to just "get away" with their action? I think many of you are interpreting "an eye for an eye", to mean that violence must always be dealt to the offender. It is about “acceptable” consequences for a behavior.

TheDoctor- doesn't turning the other cheek just encourage a person to repeat a behaviour or worse still allow a behaviour to escalate?



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~Lolita~ just made me think of something... What about the judges within the legal system that convict the criminals. What if they make the wrong choices but felt as though they were the right decisions? Does any of that deem an "eye for an eye" nessessary in circumstances such as that? Or would the judge be just doing his job?



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I was raised by the eye for eye creed. I am not a violent person but if anyone were to hurt my child or harm my family...you will definitely feel the wrath!!!!!

VENGEANCE WILL BE MINE!!!



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No I am not one for the old "eye for an eye" idiocy. I believe that things happen for a reason, people do things for a reason as well, I learn from it and allow Karma to take its revenge in Karma's time frame. I don't see the point in revenge or retaliation it only hurts me in the long run.



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That is a valid point Lolita. Someone can talk about you behind your back or similar petty wrongs that aren't illegal.
In cases such as that I usually ignore them. I don't feel that they have caused me harm. It is only an annoyance.



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There is the potential for a harsh awaking should anyone civilization impose Eye for an Eye, eventually someone will ammend the law in sever ways. What is a petty crime to most could be pleaded as offensive to a small collective that had sentimental investment l in something intentionally damaged or innocently taken.

Imagine being put to death for something as trivial as breaking a collectors vase.



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I have never openly supported the 'eye for an eye' mentality as violence inenvitably leads to more violence but on the other hand if you turn your cheeck too many times it's gonna get slaped. You have to pick and choose your moments.

This reminds of a quote once said the the 90's series 'Forever Knight' when a couple of characters were talking about revenge and running and hiding get you nowhere," if someone strikes out at you, you strike back. That is after all what seperates the winners from the losers". Apt I think.



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I am afraid that I have little respect for "the law." It has been, too often, prostituted to further the career of an attorney or judge, and as a loophole to forgive the crimes of the scum of the earth at the expense of the honest victim. There is nothing sacred about the law. It is supposed to be a tool to protect that which is sacred; and that is justice. While I am not a huge proponent of an eye for an eye, preferring forgive and forget for most offenses, there are times when it is appropriate. Especially when the law has relinquished it's committment to justice.



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If we start taking an eye for an eye approach to things our legal system will break down and there will be no such think as law and order. It is just asking for trouble.

Even though we at times think that the law is a wasnt of time or not working, it is there and it saves us from becoming animals.

An eye for an eye approach is wrong even if it is just by law. No matter what happens to us we cannot use that approach otherwise we are going backwards instead of moving forward.



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Whats interesting here is to see how many of you advocate eye for an eye vengence without really weighing your thoughts; lets suppose tomorrow laws are enacted into congress that make revenge legal-if someone cuts you off in traffic-even if it was not malicious or even intentional-go ahead and run them into the divider, its legal now, kids in the car and all. But remember, anyone now has the right to do it to you. In a horrible instant, your brakes fail and you run a redlight, killing a child. The parent of that child now has a right to come and do likewise to your child (I mean, lets face it-accidents do not placate the wrath and grief of a parent who's lost a child due to someone elses negligence or intention). This can go on and on, but whats the point? In the end, only a select few "lottery winners" would still be standing, and not neccessarily the strong; most of them would be dead from having gone out in a blaze of glory. No, the earth would then be populated with all the cowards who hid in their cellars while all this eye for an eye garbage they initially avocated takes place all around them. Amazing.



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i think that there should always be thought given to the "eye for an eye" approach, but perhaps not so literal. i do think that punishments for crimes need to be harsh. for instance in the case of violent crimes, im against so called hate crime legislation simply due to the fact that the punishment for the "hate" crime is what the violent criminal should get in the first place.

a literal interpretation of eye for an eye punishment tho just wouldnt work.
~W~



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I think "hate" crime legislation is there to show that "hate" crimes will not be tolerated, and that it is wrong. Thus the differentiation between "hate" crimes and other violent crimes, tho the punishments are the same..



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Well, let me analyze the question. Today, our "society" is divided in 3 different classes: The rich, the middle class, and the poor. The conflicts between these 3 classes always is in the front page of every paper. Now, we all know that the Law only exist for the one that have the most money and if you are the victim, and the perpetrator is rich, then, you must use the eye for an eye, because at the end, there will be no law to protect you. Do you know how many women are rape every week in our major Universities and because the perpetrator "father" is a good contributor, nothing happen, everything go under the carpet? I truly believe, that who ever came with this beautiful quote, was a genius. Yes, "revenge is sweet, like sugar in a baby mouth".



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I think that the "rich" getting away with crime is an exception, not the rule. It doesn't always happen. There are plenty of instances where they are held accountable.



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To me, it depends on what you are trying to revenge.



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what does an eye for an eye really get you???? think about it a minute........ Usually a viscious circle is all and a bunch of heart ache .....Two wrongs dont make a right but at the same time I can see the need in certain circumstances......I believe in karma but I am a Dad also and if the courts wouldnt met out the justice a beast deserved who's to say I wouldnt do it myself but thats a test for me and to each their own test and trials



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Well it was thought up back when everything was answered by the sword. This is how they thought. In modern times, violence isn't thought to be the answer to solving all problems by many individuals anyway. I will leave politics, religion and countries out of this.

If you look at the story of Beowulf and Grendel you can see this very clearly. Nothing was served by it. It starts merely because someone they call a Troll and don't like wandered into someone else's territory and took a fish. The killing started and kept going by the child who witnessed it. What purpose was accomplished? None, because a lot of people died for a silly reason. One can understand people's feelings of revenge when it deals with family but what starts is a feud and after awhile no one remembers what started it. The idea is the "eye for an eye" to pay for a wrong.

If we followed this standard anything could be used as a wrong and we would be killing each other for the slightest thing.



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True, but thankfully there are people out there with a modicum of common sense. It is a fact that violence only begets more violence and we should learn to treat each other with a lot more respect but in some cases, a persons 'civilised' mentality can more overan with primitive impluses which dispite all our best effects remains subbornly strong with the right movivation.



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My mother once told me, revenge is for god and god alone!
I will say this to you as I did to her.. if god did not wish me to do what I have done, he would have stopped me!
My oldest son and his friend was hit by a drunk driver, my sons friend was killed he was only 11, my son was 12. my son is now 17 and has to see doctors for the rest of his life.
do you know what happened to the driver of the car?
he got six months....F@&k that.... in my life I have seen the LAW! let many who have taken from good people get away with it.


so to me an eye for an eye is how I live.
do I fear the mundane law? NO!
if it is meant that I fall for doing what I feel is right then so be it, that is fates way of saying what I did was wrong.....



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hot or cold, revenge tastes sweet to me ....
sometimes thats the only way to get past whats
happened or else you might dwell forever without closure.



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UMBRAxDExVIR
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I agree fully..



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RomaMarieNightwing
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For me "An Eye for an Eye" is only acceptable in the issue of the death penalty.



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WhiteWolf
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I was raised that way but soon figured out that it gets me nowhere fast. It just kept me wanting 1 up on the person that harmed me, but what good does it do at all? I think it takes you down to that other persons level & in the long run it really isn't worth it



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SheWolf85
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I have always been against the death penalty. I still am, actually. I would love to see the person go insane. Losing all semblance of life, sanity, and whatever they know.. While being alive. To me, just locking them up will do the trick. Morbid, yes. To me that's the ultimate punishment. An eye for an eye? Maybe. But no one gets hurt in the process, I guess.



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JudasBrood
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but some already have no humanity. so it really would have no effect



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an eye for an eye approach is so wrong. At one time there was a place for it. But we have evolved. Some cultures still use this approach and they are still pretty much in the dark ages (mainly 3rd word countries).

We do tend to still use this approach at times, things like road rage but it gets out of control. Because we cannot control our temper we tend to go over board so what starts out as a eye for an eye approach can become worse.

we have heard stories were neighbors get into disput because of a pity little thing like leaves falling over the fence and they toss it back and forth and then all of a sudden one turns nasty and then it leads to murder. All because they started to use this sort of approach. Nope leave it were it belongs, in our pass.



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LoveChilde
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An eye for an eye is old testament Mosiac law. It is not God's punishment for man but man's punishment for man. God's punishnent was what was done to Cain when he killed his brother Able. He was not killed. He was cursed; marked so that all humankind would shun him for a long as he lived. His punishment was so much more than fitting the crime. He cried to God that so marked he would be killed by other men. So God said that whoever killed Cain would suffer God's revenge seven times. But he we never relieved from his curse.

The legal system in the US is far from perfect. There are corput cops, corupt judges, corput lawyers and corupt jails. There are innocent people serving long prison terms and there are gulity criminals hat have murdered many who have never served a day in jail. The rich benefit from the system and the poor are troden underfoot. It is all sadly true.

Nonetheless, I say without a doubt an eye for an eye is a fool's game. The punishment for the commission of criminal acts is for the State. The proper forum for revenge is overkill for any personal wrong. If I were wronged, I would prefer to dole out God's law to the tresspasser; not the law of Moses.

My example would be The Count of Monte Cristo. He was falsely imprisoned by 3 men. He later escaped from prison and became wealthy. He took that wealth and ruined the men that had wronged him BY THEIR OWN GREED, JEALOUSY AND DISHONESTY. He baited a lavish hook for each and they hung themselves.

I mean if you decide to do something to someone because they did something to you; why just get even? Why not play God and give them 7 times what they gave you? Else, why bother?



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Erinyes
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it all depends on the matter at hand i believe,some things are worth getting revenge on a personal level while other things are not.



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I believe some things are worth forgetting about while some transgressions are to grievious to ignore. The ones too grievous to look past are the ones I crave revenge for.



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eye for an eye is a little strong but if it were a finger for a finger i think that it would be alright its a little drastic but hey do what you want just not to me



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eye for an eye is a vedictive aproach to a situation, we must come to terms that if it is worth it, Still wrong in todays society, but I see the approach taken almost every day.



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FallenStar
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I hate the notion of an Eye for an Eye although I agree this is what people practice and it is why nothing ever gets done.

If one makes it clear that if you dare to take my eye or any member of my familys eyes I will not only take your life but I will carpet bomb your hometown and erase your very existance...
Then the chances are they will think twice in the first place...right?



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