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If you've used magick, either black or white, did you have irrefutable and successful results? If so what technique did you use and where did you learn it? Please share the process you used.

I use Disenchantment spells often, I can only say they work because I have seen those that benefit from them vomit upon completion or the ritual. I usually recemend
ginger to those who do it. The feeling of being severed from enchantment is
a sinking feeling.

I cast a spell on my mother-in-law so she would chill out (put her name on a peice of paper then put it in a freezer)

I have used it sucessfully but it cost me I am a healer and i feel what I pull so I use it carefully

I have used it and been rather successful. Mostly to help others with thier needs and they have all come back prosperous.

There are magiks and casting circles that are used quite often by me, since all magik is neither black nor white, but grey...As in neutral depending on your needs. Though I will not give out casting information, as it is a personal thing to me. Success, well that is in the eye of the beholder in my opinion...Though very successful in all my workings.

Magick takes much concentration and energy. Magick to me is just a prayer that we wish something in our lives will just manifest a little bit faster.

There is no such thing as black or white,everything needs a balance,good with the bad,so I am not one or the other,I balance good with bad,light and dark,and face the consequences of my own actions.

I am just starting to get into that part of training... so far I have only done small spells that are more for focus training... but they have worked... The thing to remember is that spells don't always happen right away...

i agree that one should not tell of their workings, it can draw negative energy.

Soulshroude ... you are absolutely accurate.
mysticwinds ... good point ... although i m not sure how much i agree with it.
MizzVampiria ... another good point.
xXxSlaveAngelxXx ... yet another good point.
psychvamp ... i completely agree.

robotech ... there is truly no such thing as black magic or white magic ... it remains what it is by how and why it is used ... although never shall i tell how i do my magic i have used magic in various forms and i have had failures as well as successes ... in most every case there has been repercussions both good and bad.

well said vladimir,the key is to remember the rule of three time three.three times bad,three times good.or if you like we can call it karma

I have read posts others have left on this thread and I agree with some of you here regarding that any magick one performs should be kept to themselves and not shared openly.

But all you you have really shared many good points here.

I've used magic, but there is no such thing as black or white magic. All magic is gray. The same spell that is used to heal can also kill, hence it isn't something to play with. It did work for me, but I don't like the idea of messing with it because bad things can happen even if your using it for good.

Black and white? No.
successful? Smiles~ mmm,you might say quite.
Tell you ?..
It is very simple.
Think it.

I've used it frequently. I've had things backfire before, but mostly success.

I use traditional ceremonial magick, such as invoking/banishing rituals of the pentagram. It's basic but it works!

I should note that I had several years of formal training and initiation. It can be learned by oneself, but I suggest sticking to the book for a while.

Such is the space between real and imagined when the crafted well appears to appear for those who seek to find.

I cast when I need to and it works,
you shouldnt cast on anyone it will back fire. Or should I say come back three fold

seeing magic work... Perhaps magic works when not viewed. If it is seen then it is by the person casting it. only because they focused with ritual.

yes
i will just say one very good looking man who is 29 is still a virgin living at home with mommy and daddy and the curse will not be broke till he appologizes for teasen me about my disability ...LOL its bad enough he teased the handicap but to tease one with power ...i think the punishment suits the crime

I Have used magick before to curse my enemies. I used a certian curse that required ones blood and the burning of it and it worked and that person has been tormented for 2 years now

i was always told i was not pure enough to practice a strictly white magick but not evil enough to practice black magick so if there is such a thing i would say i dabblein shades of gray

I honestly don't understand why someone who is experienced in magick would have a problem sharing their experience. To somehow think that it is forbidden or that ones experiences should be kept to themselves, frankly, is ridiculous.

There are great many books written by a plethora of individuals who are true masters in occult practices. Many who have written on the subject not only shared their experience but left us with step by step guides on how to duplicate their results. If they had not they would only have been discredited as being touched in the head or as being rodomontade. Giving credit to ones sources is only proper. This is how we learn; otherwise, these practices would have been lost and no one would have the pleasure of keeping such knowledge to oneself. Of course by sharing and publishing ones experiences and techniques one exposes oneself to criticism. However, by doing so it gives those who would criticize the opportunity to put the process to the test and also hopefully enlighten them. It also allows the shit to float to surface. No one here has learned what they know in a vacuum.

That being said, sigil magick works like a charm every time. It is rooted in Jewish mysticism and the use of "סגולות" (segulot) or remedies made of sacred names. I first learned about it from U.D. Frater's book Practical Sigil Magic and then gained a more detailed understanding from my teacher in Israel. Frater's book is out of print and if you can find a copy it's really expensive. I know there are other books available that deal with sigil magick but I cannot vouch for them. You can also get a short description on wikipedia.

You can download Frater U.D.’s Practical Sigil Magic here. Enjoy and use it wisely.

http://www.pop-psychotronics.com/2007/10/28/practical-sigil-magic/

i have used it succesfully. i conjourd (sp) rain before. my technique can be found in my journal (under spells of course).

sharing your experiances isn't bad as long as your doing no harm and that is where it can get dangerous cause if you don't know what your doing you can cause harm unknowingly.

i have used many that were successful...... Wicca, Green Witchcraft, Native American, Voodoo, Satanism just to name a few...... very persistant results.... one hint.... don't doubt anything and make sure it is what you want

Only benign spells...such as protection or healing. Of course the spell may have had nothing to do with the positive outcome but I believe that they did, and that is all that it takes to be real for me.

Yes, I have been successful on a few occasions. Although I will not tell How I did it... I got my daughter's boyfriends mom off her back, I have broken up a couple that I knew was destined not to work & I have helped a sick person.

I have used it it a few times. Yes some were successful. Putting great thought and energy into watch you wish to achieve. Try to clear your mind of all other things.

I used a spell to stop my husband from drinking. Just the smell of alcahol makes him sick. He was drinking himself to death and destryoing our family. He has been sober for over a year and is happy with himself and our family is stronger and closer now.

Correct HHW ... doubt is a bane of doing magic and if you really don't want the end result then you have no business trying the effect.

I have used different types before. I study upon different types of magic and found out that all it takes is some faith and patience and you will be successful.
A rule that I learned is that, you never rush a god or godess. The reluts could lead to failure.

i've noticed a lot of people who have not done magic yet.... that is interesting to find so many people who haven't on this site....i kinda thought they went hand in hand.....

of course maybe a lot of you don't realize that you do magic every day, that also depends on what you personally classify as magic.... i happen to put more things into the magic category than others because they are just as natural as what we call magic

HellHathWings, I've noticed the same thing. Actually it's has surprised me. I was hoping to meet other serious practitioners. By the way HellHathWings I heard an interesting interview with Joshua P. Warren on 770 WABC, of all places, the other night. He did a first time inside documentary on the Church of Satan. It was an interesting interview although it's not my thing but it did make me think of you. You can check it out at http://www.insidethechurchofsatan.com.

when iv used it for the most part im 99.9% successful. i do not know if its because of what in casting or because iv been wiccan as long as i can rember and i grow up in a wiccan home

The first step in any success is faith in it. Believe in your magik...& believe in yourself.

YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!!

I agree with many here, I feel that it should not discussed on open forum with much detail. I use Goetia and had many trips up the wrong path to learn but I also feel that is as well with any magick. It is dangerous if not completely in order with wording and timing but i can only speak for Goetia. Yes hit the books and learn as much as one can before the actual start and protect your self very well.

Of course I have...All the time..It's part of my life...It's part of what and who I am...It's within my very essence..and within the fabrics of reality and time..and beyond...

Some call it magick...some call it shaping or altering reality...and then you can use it for attracting things...or detracting things (i kind of made up the word detracting, but ya know what i mean :D ) also for illusions, but keep in mind..illusions can be reality..for we live in an illusion type reality itself....

Remember this...Less than 5% of the KNOWN universe is PHYSICAL...haha...
Dark matter and dark energy make up the rest...so where do dreams, thoughts and magick lie? well think about it.

Very good point Xvoid. The physical world is only an illusion. In kabbalistic terms all that is physical is known as the Klipah (peel, husk), which surrounds what is truly real, the spiritual world.

I do the informal "Polish Hex" on people when the tick me off.

It is applied by making a curved V with the main and middle finger of the right hand, palm down, and it is projected to the offending party.

It's intent is just to wish general ill or harm to them for doing the same to me.

Not sure if it works, but it makes me feel better.

I don't think I've cast a spell that I could say worked with any certainty. I've never cast a spell or curse at anyone whereas I could see the result as anything tangable.

the most prominent spell i have used was a simple protection spell placed on my home , i used some pure brass tubing and fashioned it into the rough shape of my house , then set fourth annointing it with different fragrances and oils that were appealing to myself and others within the house placed it under the entrance way and lit a white candle just south of it , then i repeated the process again at the back entrance

so far i have had no visitors that cause any harm to my home or anyone within it and those who intended to do so never really entered the home they just left abruptly

a wee bit of sigil magick, basically to control the weather. i called the rain and it worked quite well. but then again, i've been doing that all my life so...

i would love to learn the craft i think if u belive in yourself and remain postitive and belive in what your doing should help

_As a college student, I don't have much time to do magick, but if I did, I'm sure I would. Magick works if you believe it will...it's one of those things, sorta like...and man do I hate cliches..."BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER." In other words, if you believe that you can do it then you can, but if you believe that it will mess up, it will._

i do half-assed stuff that half the time works. likely just chance.

like ill snap my finger and point at a street light and it will turn on or off instantly. same with doing a lightning dance and when i throw my hands down the lightning strikes. not everytime but ive blown my friends away with it before. thats as advanced as it gets for me, and all that i would attempt magic for -- novilty.

I'm learning I'm a soul trying to find herself trying to find who she really is... I want to use magick but havn't a clue where to start I myself am in need of help Idid one time infact successfully scry for my sister I call her my sister b/c we were so close we are wose than twins who have been arround eachother since birth and are now in their thirties and have never left eachothers side and were only 18 =] but I couldn't find her one time and I used magic to scry for her and Ifound her location. usualing a pendalium

I mean no disrespect, but I am a bit confused here.
Magic is used by so many and claimed to work at least fairly well.
Yet noone is willing to really share their experience(s) beyond saying yay or nay.

As a skeptic, I have difficulty believing this.
Its been around for centuries, yet noone can share it because it can cause problems.
Then how is it still around?

I am seriously confused on this one.

Pontius Piolet...

It depends on how you define magic. There are different types, or different forms. Some ppl are better than others. Some ppl may tap into something here and there and are afraid of it, so they close off..People fear what they don't understand, and some people have no control..

I can understand part of your confusion..

Now, theres just having (esp) which is a type of magic itself...When I go to the casinos to gamble..I always hit a machine..It's fair to say that I always win...Just sometimes more than others..
Then, theres your consciousness or thoughts which seem to affect reality..almost as if your thoughts control a portion of what's going on in the world, or what ppl will be talking about..maybe it's just being in tune, or others being on your frequency...
Not sure..But..I have had great experiences, with thinking about something, and it comes to me..or wanting to see a show about something, and i turn the tv on, and it's there...kind of like synchronicities, or some how psychically knowing which channel to turn to...Then theres the manipulation of matter, or moving matter (with mind) yet...more so with energies..or perhaps beings or connections with other dimensions...
I think dark matter and dark energy, in science may have an answer in some of this..and it's funny that it's called dark energy and dark matter LOL
but if you read my earlier post, it states the percentages of the known universe that are made up of the different types of matter...dark energy and dark matter combined make up the most, leaving less that 5% to be the "physical"...I'm just saying that...theres a lot out there..and a lot that actually is connected with us..and you can use certain things as tools...Not everything is as strange as it seems..and yet...of course it is..especially if you're not used to certain facts of reality...

Magic..perhaps can cause a problem, but then again, that's an interpretation made up by the individual (or individuals)...Depends on why or how it caused problems..but...I don't know what they're talking about...I know that...theres a lot of things that ppl don't understand...and the pieces that they do understand, they run from it..like i said earlier, probally because they feel they cannot control it, as well as understand it...Or maybe they think they understand, and give negative assumptions...but maybe there are some negative aspects haha..Just depends on everything..from perception to scenerio..etc.

I mean...manipulating reality....
If you think abou it....
Look at this human world and society...Look at all the buildings..the stop lights..the roads..the side walks...the grocery stores...the architecture..the cars...the machines...the foods..customs...the tv...the toys...gardens...clothing..clothing types and styles...genres..movies..music....All of this used to not exist...and if it wasn't for the human mind, and the imagination...the magic...it wouldn't be a physical reality....but technically...everything that you are living in, and each morning when you're on the toilet, or taking a shower..using a sink, a fridge or a stove...realize...that technically...it all came from someones mind...or many minds....this was not real until it was thought about...even though, there are also things that you may think about, that already exist...in some other place..some other time..or even in the same world and time..and sometimes if you google things..you find..oh hey..look it already exists....or hey..i'm not the only one who thought of that....

SO...when it comes to imagination, magic, and creations....there are some deeper levels of manipulation of matter....which seem more surreal, than they do to most humans that live in todays world....

oh..P.S..

I want to add something to my sentence..

is was not real until it was thought about...AND was NEEDED..and had some kind of use for...

I have used magic sucessfully in the past. The ones I have most sucess with are my cleansing rituals and spells. I have also managed to get some money spells to work in the past, but I do not keep a trackrecord, If I suceed I am happy, if not, hopefully I will get it next time.

I use ceremonial magic with the use of magic circles, the forms of the circles are not always the same because they are changed according to the order of the spirits that are to be called... the moon cannot be combust or in Via Combusta, which is between fourteen degrees of Libra and fourteen degrees of Scorpio... There are many requirements of oration and only a few will be devote enough to perform the invocations...

i would like to respond to the first question with "lol" and i would like to respond to the second question with "if u really know anything about spell casting, astral travel, rune casting, tarrot reading, or anything of the sort, u have probably already been advised against teaching people who dabble so the people who hav offered advice, i would consider in my own judgment to be not fluent in the magic language, so to speak, and therefore, disregard anything u have read.

I've used one type of magic which everyone has done or will do sometime in their life. A Natural magic.

You're asking us to break the rule of perfect love and perfect trust. You're asking us to divulge things that are to be kept silent.

Go back to reading Harry Potter, fluffbunny.

I cast a magik spell on this thread to keep it from closing. Apparently it worked...because this thread has lasted almost 2 weeks & not the usual 4 minutes. LOL

I HAVE USED IT SUCCESSFULLY ;-]

healer, there is an old Latin quote that addresses your remarks, "An nescis, mi fili, quantilla sapientia mundus regatur?", which simply means, "Don't you know then, my son, how little wisdom rules the world?"

The vr is intended for sharing information, not inhibiting that sharing... please respect those who choose to share...

Ab ove maiori discit arare minor.

Naah, I never was successful in using any magic so much so it could show in a real result.

I am usualy best at cultivating large amounts of spite&malice.

I am really good at growing hate as well.

I guess that counts as a form of black magic.

I have found when I'm doing magic I need focus on what I'm about to do and what I am doing for it to be a success, also breathing deeply & evenly helps with this too.

Yeah, I've used Magick before. the most important thing, i've found, is to always use it with the utmost reverence. what i do is see, that is my gift. tarot cards, crystals, etc. different forms of seeing beyond or see more than is apparent. you just have to keep an open mind, basically.

I used a protection spell a few years ago. I wasn't sure if it would but it did the trick.

I didi a money spell for someone who needed money and wass well in debt about 8 days ago four days ago they became "Mega Millions" Richer they won $500 in the lotto as well as a few side perks 100 dolor scratch offs and such it was pretty cool watching it in action :] I had fun!! cashing all those tickets at my store :]

all witches in one source or anouther have used majick successfully.....its a matter of what you believe and how you use it that it works.........

I try not to define the idea of magic by a color, as that approach seems quite foreign and repulsive to me. I measure by intent, technique, will, and success rate: A metaphorical alchemist's table, if you will.

Usually, when somebody asks, I tell them it's an illusion, even if the statistics involved clearly defy that notion.

I am what you call a Heremtic viewed pagan. So my faith is abit different. I believe in white black and gray. Yes I have seen results in all. Where did I learn it from my family, from my teachers and of course books.
Depends on the magick you use and what you use it for..

Bows

i have used magick many times with good results. there is a list of spells in my journal that i have used, and they have all worked

To me, Magick is just a word simply used to describe something one can do mentally and emotionally with much focus, and willpower behind the personal purpose of what one is set out to do. I have used my mind to do such things before in the past. I do not practice it as often as I might should but I figured that it wouldn't matter unless I REALLY felt the need to do it. Some instances I have successfully healed myself, or a pet, and even my son from fever. One other time and it's not something I'm proud of, but I have been terribly angered by someone that I wanted harm to be done to them. It didn't exactly go as i wanted it to, but it was close enough. In the end, I managed to learn that..."magick" isn't needed for everything. Time and patience is virtue. ;)

I remember asking a similar question once, asking people if they had any proof and if they didnt, could they provide me with a easy spell to try and prove this to myself. (Yes, i am a little skepitcal)

Anyway, i was basicly harrased by Countless people, refusing to prove or give me a spell. But then something funny happend.

A boy messaged me and said he had asked for a spell from his friend and what do you know? I had already seen that exact same spell on two different websites!

So, magic? I think if such a thing existed, it would only be given to the very FEW people who didnt bragg about it.
So i guess that mean's half of VR is....

FacelessUnknown, there will always be posers and then there will always be true believers in the craft. Those who are patient, who believe and who are thirsty for knowledge, who learn step by step without rushing things. Good things take time. If you have enough faith, you could turn a butterfly into a swimming cat.

i have tried, santeria...it worked I beleive because the person who was trying to hex me was not able to..

yes i have used magic successfully on more than one occation both white and black magic.

The only spells that I've used that have actually worked are healing or to make the wind stop or start. Which making the wind stop or start or calm down or whatever you want wasn't hard. I just asked it to really... That might seem crazy, but it really worked. And healing I have the best success with. Taking away headaches, relieving minor pains and such is all so far, but I'm still learning.

I learned everything from Anton LaVey's teachings ,,, and yes it works ,, .

Magic can be used for good and evil and it will work if you believe in it

I haven't yet, but I am hoping to learn. It really intrigues me so I'm hoping one day once I know even about it then I can attempt it, and just hope that it works.

i actually did a tarot reading for myself today. just something very imprompty and casual. its not my gift but it was pretty accurate. it must be a good deck

Indeed And I Used It To Find Love, And on my birthday I did and now I'm Married lol

you used tarot right? what kind of reading did you do? I'm always interested in the types of readings that people like to do

had a friend use magic and it backlashed on him

I've done no magic recently, it has worked for me in the past, but I find actions to be more effective than wishful thinking paired with candles, herbs and words.

I wanted my ex to be nicer to me with no ill words, so i took his pic and put red and black ink splatter marks on it and put in under the mattress.. it worked..

I remember when I was younger I read in a witchcraft book a spell that would separate happy lovers. Put there names on a piece of paper. Take a black candle and set it in a glass bowl filled with ice water. Fold the paper and set it unerneath the candle and let it burn out. I never had any reason to try this, so I have no idea if it works.

I believe that if a person believes something enough it makes it very real. And there is much more to this world than we know. Magic is all around us every day.

I have been a practioner for amny years and used all different types from cereomnial to candle magic, protection and cleansing spells for the house. As long as it is coming from the heart and well meaning the intent has always been successful. each time is always a learning experiance, I will forever learn new things as there is so much out there that we are are not aware as as Xvoid so clearly pointed out.

I literally wrote a love spell like the one in practical magic, you know
Eyes that are blue green
Blonde like the sun
Stuff like that and well...
Were getting married in december, lol

I don't know if it was luck or spell casting success. I myself during a full moon ( have cliche i know ) , lighted candles, wanted to have a spell for a boss of mine to have the flu or be ill.. Hated this boss mind you. I said a spell i read from a book (i figured what could it hurt ) . i READ IT AT MIDNIGHT, thought it would be effective. well it resulted in my boss being out sick for 3 days with the flu.. I don't know if it was luck or what. I mean since that time i quit my job at that place and actually my boss got fired for being mean to another employee but still. I was bored, it was early in the evening, i hated my boss and had the book and candles on hand.

Yes i have used candle magic successfully and also my tarot card magic

Thats great that you were able to expierence that. I did a simular spell like that a few years back and it worked like a charm. I no longer had any feels for the man at all. Love was blind I just needed to open my eyes.

I have never used magick and honestly have never met anyone who could show any type of result from doing so. I cannot say if it works or not.

I haven't tried it. I hope it will work though.

biggirlangel - Help with what, exactly?

darkxwhisper - What about someone who doesn't believe it will work until they've used it?

And to answer the question, it depends on the type of magick.

The ability to love is considered a natural magick among other things.

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