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I understand that death is just another part of life but why do people constantly kill themselves and end their lives sooner then later? I've had 17 people that I really cared about commite suicide in the past 8 years and I can't help but wonder why they ended their lives so soon. I mean the first person who commited suicide that I cared about was only 8 years old. He died in my arms and I was only 6 and I still can't figure out completly why he did it.

some people think...no matter the age...
that theres no other way out of a problem
in there life.... and have a feeling of that no one is there to tell to.... or that no one really or truely cares... and dieing is easier then living...... and some how not thinking what that does to us who is left behind...... *i am not say either thats what happened*its just one way it goes...

I myself cannot really understand this-oh, I may know the reasons behind it, but I always considered it the cowards way out and could never kill myself. For some people, it all gets to much and there is nothing anyone can say or do that will help. Some think that others would be better off without them, or the world doesnt need or care anyway. Some just cant take the pain anymore. I feel your loss-sorry about your friend at such a young age.

Peoiple take for granted the great gift they have been given... Life, no matter how bad it gets, can always get better... You have to have faith...

that is so very true.... a life is a gift...
that is to be looked as beautyful thing...

its just like vampyone said. its gets to be too overwhelming and they feel there is no other way out. ive felt that way many times, but i just kept telling myself that it has to get better. and it kinda did. some people just try to take the easy way out and crumble under the stress of life. or some have extremly low self esteem, think no one will even notice so what the hell, why not. my dads real father shot himself in the head, he was an abusive drunk and decided it was the best thing to do for him and his family. its their way of solving things

It takes a very weak person to off themselves. It doesn't matter how bad you think things are, someone else out there is worse off, and they're still alive and kicking.

Sorry if I come off so bluntly, but as many times as I've had the opportunity, I'm still around. And that's saying something.

robin3 is very right, they think its the only way out......i feel a little happy with myself bc i have mannaged to talk most of my friends who have tried to kill themselves out of doing it.....but i just have one of those personalities that some people will listen to me and let me listen to them and tell them what they could do thats better...... but i know that one of these days i willnt be able to talk one person out of it and it'll tear me up

having grown up in the suicide capital of western Canada I kinda became numb to the whole topic....buried too many to continue caring so much....
personally I think it is total cowardice.....
but logically I know that some people just have trouble seeing not only that there is good in their lives....but the damage they willl do to their loved ones by their actions....very selfish of a thought process really....

why people commit suicide? cannot give you an answer except they think it is the easy way out. Not knowing the screwed up pieces they leave behind. i have also had a few friends and family commit suicide in the past couple of years. we may never know the answers, we must move on. all you can do is start to regonize the sighns, and pray you catch before it is too late.

Taking your own life is such a waste! There is no problem that can't be fixed and nothing is bad enough to kill yourself for. It's the chicken shit way out. How many people who are dying(not by choice)would give anything to have your life, no matter how shitty it is? Just to live? To me suicide is just like taking a shit in the almighty's face, I don't agree with it at all, but thats just me......

There is no answer to this

depends on those peoples mind n how the live n their background

Someone close to me killed themselves .I think about it to but we can never be in there heads at the moment they think of doing this .So until we feel that kinda of low will never know

well if they knew how much they would hurt you by dying they would probably not done it, i am so sorry ofr you

I do not kindon suicide, but I think it's quite a remark to appose opinions one people that are suicidal or have commited suicide. There are mentally ill people that have thinking problems and everything may seem impossible, so I don't think I'm one to cast judgment so fast. Because I know for the most part, the majority has at least contemplated it.

oh honey I am sorry to hear that you have lost soo many people close to you. As to why people do it, nobody knows. I mean, they could have had serious problems, severly depressed, no other way out, don't know what they are missing. Who knows the answer to this. My condolences to you on this though.
*kisses and hugs*

Thanks everyone. I really appreciate this.

If you read back what you originally posted, then how can you possibly believe that death is just another part of life?

If thats the case, then people have the freedom to move onto that stage when they chose, and dont need prior judgement from others in which to do so, do you know what I mean?

death is life

life is death...

balance!

You have a point Echo. Well death comes to us all. We don't know when but it will. Well to does who bring death early to themselves Isay this "One less person to worry about." Excuse my rudeness but I have not regrets or remorse to those you commit or attempted suicide. They are weak and should not remain in this life or any other. People should just live what little life they have to the fullest !!

the easiest reason for me to understand is if there's no one specific problem that's bringing you down, no easily identifiable group of problems, just a general overwhelming feeling that life - everything about life - even when it's at its best - isn't right for you...isn't worth dealing with...

i dont understand people who kill themselves over a guy or a girl or an event...

but i can understand that if day in-day out you're feeling like even if things were going as well as you can imagine them going...you wouldnt feel a bit better about life...

at any rate, that's how i excuse some of those that have left me deliberately. i dont actually believe that most of them had cause to be so hopeless...i always like to think that there are diet changes, lifestyle changes, exercises, medications, supplements, increases in fluid uptake, etc. that will improve your outlook eventually

but i can understand that if you dont feel that, and you dont think that you're going to feel better no matter what the circumstances are - it might feel very very right to kill yourself

Vrykolakas-

Can you honestly say that you could stop your own life by your own hands?

Many people live their lives in misery, waiting for someone else to kill them. At least some are assertive enough to do it themselves.

Its a freedom of choice. An ultimate choice.

sometimes emotions overwhelm a person and cause them to do bad things to themselves

apparantly 2-3am is the time most people choose to kill themselves

i have been awake at that time and i must admit your mode of thinking does change and depression sinks in sometimes
i dont know why it does it.....just does

i cant say ive known anyone of my friends to kill themselves and 17 in 8 years is a lot and im sory for that

between 2-3am is an odd time.

Its the time when your heart beat is at its slowest, your temperature is at its lowest, and when most people die in their sleep.

No wonder the suicide rate is up at that time.

Everytime I have nightmares (and that's a lot), I seem to wake up between 2-3am...
After reading this, I'm a little freaked out.

And come to think of it...it was about in that time range when I almost commited suicide a few years ago.

Glad I didn't now, but I sure wish I did then.

Someone called (at out of all the times too) and interupted me, and I didn't go through with it.

My emotions were just ripping through me. I felt like I would go insane if I couldn't make them stop, and suicide seemed like the only way out. I couldn't let time heal. I would have lost my mind by then. Which some people do claim I went a little crazy and I'm no longer normal. lol. I have trust issues now. Didn't before. I'm still not fully over it. And it was over some guy.

I remember people would think I was stupid for it. But it seems to me if they went through what I was going through at that time they would have understood.

I'm sure a majority of people have suffered that feeling. Maybe not everyone, but a majority...

I guess I'll stop rambling now. ^_^

Sorry if I said anything wrong, just thought I'd mention it. =) My opinion. Thought I'd share. Best Regards~*

Its ncie to hear everyones points, no matter what side they are from.

I would not take my own life Echo. There would no need for it. I have been in rough times were the only thing I could think of was death. Thoughts and trying to commit suicide are two different things. I know for if my mother could make it in the worst of times then I can too. Life is hard and death is easy. No wonder so many choose death the Pussies way out. For those who wait for someone else to do it for them. Their pain grows even worse cause the pain builds and yet no one to put them out of this life. If they could just sit back and realize that they are still living waiting for death that they can turn their life around !!

It was said by Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam that it's a way of showing you let the world beat you. You didn't have the strenght to fight on. I agree, for I would never do it for one simple reason...and she's 10 years old. My daughter. Plus this life, world we live in SUCKS but I wont let it beat me....

Suicide shows everyone your weak...

My thoughts Only...

I am a Noble by nature but yoiu may call me Marius.

they think there life is a mess and the hate the people in it or soemthing someone did....this may sound alittle rude but they seem to be all about them selfs to me not careing about others feelings! because when they kill the themself they dont see how much it hurts others!....i cant tell u y but i cant tell u what i think

Having recently come out of a deep depression myself i can say that the 8 inch long hunting knife pressing into your throat whilst you're bawling your eyes out for someone to help save you is the only thing between you and your maker at that specific moment in time.Those of you who say it is a cowards way or that people who wanna die are a waste of space will never understand what true despair is.

Suicidal thoughts have a way of blocking out all logic,all thoughts of any bright future, leaving a poor soul with nothing but a need to fade away and disappear.Some want the world to take notice and see what they've been reduced to but some just want to be forgotten altogether.Now having put the hunting knife away I am glad i lived long enough to see my children grow.I have friends on the net who are in dire need of someone to help save them from their maddening desire to die and faed away into obscurity...I try to help them but is hard.Please don't say these people are a waste of space or ungrateful for the gift of life,just try and understand them more.

Because most of them don t have a reason for live for...it s a litlle easy when you have a reason to live,that makes you strong but when you don t have for what to live for,when you don t have hope or anybody who waites you at home or maybe a friend that always has a good word for you ...this world it s so fucked up i don t know what is in evrybody minds but evrywhere i look is to much misery ...

arland...thanks for that. i like the way you said it. i can agree with people who say that suicide is selfish.
it's downright cruel if you've really got people out there who love you and would do something to help you if you let them know...
but not everyone has people like that, and even when you do...there are things that can happen in your mind that seriously downplay those people...you can believe that they'd be better off without you...in the real deep of it, you can believe that they're just waiting for you to kill yourself so that they can go on with their lives!...
lots of people say these things when they bitch and moan about life...but to truly believe them...is terrifying.

I don`t really understand why people commit suicide either. I guess they do it because they are so un-happy and don`t think there`s any other way to fix the problem. So they think that by killing themselves they`ll fix the problem and they won`t be around anymore so nothing worse could happen if they're dead. I don`t really get it but that`s kind of how I look at it.

Often times, people lose their way, they forget that the gods/goddesses what ever,never place anything in your path that you can not overcome. recently a friend of mine decided the obsticules were too much for him, and he swallowed the business end of a shotgun, leaving behind a not yet 2 year old daughter. I can not begin to understand How a Parent can do something like this, with no thought for the out come of their child/ren. He forgot someone besides himself was involved in his big picture. I mourn his loss, his daughters loss, and the fact she will never know her true father. he was a good man, though he was a lost soul.

Death is really only the start to something else there are things you can only see when you are gone from your mortal body
but i dont think that was the reason your friend killed himself
i dont remember which one of you said this but there isnt always a way to get out of a problem

I have tried to kill myself so I will try to help you. Thankfully my pathetic fear of pain spared my life for me to realize that it wouldn't have helped. I wanted to because I felt I had no purpose, and that noone really cared about me or what I did. But that isn't true. Everyone is loved and cared about. EVERYONE. I get tired of hearing pathetic emo souls tell everyone that "noone cares about me" and oh" im so hated" and stuff like that. If you're hated for who you are, don't be mad, don't kill yourself. Don't care what they think, they aren't you. Noone but you makes a difference on your opinion. Thank you.
~morgana~

humanity gets blinded by pain, emotions which are all weaknesses....

Sometimes death looks like the only way out. I was backed into a corner and tried to get out via suicide. Thankfully I was kept alive.

I now have a true friend and soon to be my lover when I get to Australia.

yay you!

Suicide seems to be a waste of life I agree. But for some of us there is no happiness. We have no soul mate, no friends, no family, or no family that gives a shit anyways. There is no light at the end of the tunnel, none that we can see anyways. Maybe we have good memories but now they have become painful. All we have is pain all day everyday. But I believe in each of us exsists a will to survive. I just think some people don't find it in time :( I have talked a few people out of suicide and I have been there myself. I try to help others now it may not make life easy but what does. It gives me something to focus on. But more importantly it gives me a purpose.

The reasons may very accept that thou feels that thee has no othe way to excape thine life and, thus thou seek out death and embrace it. as life may shun and forsake you but death will always embrace you and will be there when thee call for it

for some they get to the point the pain of living is to much death seems to be the only end to the pain

noone will ever fully understand why people take their own lives,,,for to understand u would have to have walked in that persons shoes and lived what they have lived, seen what they have seen and thought what they have thought, felt what they have felt,,,a particular situation for one person might seem quiet trivial but for another it might seem earth shattering,i think we should respect ppl's personal choice and rather than mourn what we have lost celebrate the person who we once shared a bond with,,,,

they think they can't do better,which is stupid

death is a blessing but not by your own hands. I could understand dying over a better reason like protecting something etc. but everybody else just sounds weak.

going through a few things this past week i figured out why people kill other people. its because of the run around to register for college lol. no but seriously when death is dealt by those who aren't supposed to deal it...its just a cry from attention. they feel they were wronged or are lonely and want to be noticed.

Most of you judged badly suicidals,but I think I can understand them,they felt lonely,fed up of probs and no one to help and understand them.

Maybe if they searched more they could solve their prob and wouldn't have made it,but now it's too late, and maybe not everyone has someone to trust,or is strong enough to cope with life!

The only people who have any real point about suicide issues are the ones who have been to the lowest point a person can get. Then they have every right to give a responce.. all of you people saying this and that who have not been to this 'point' you're jumping on the bandwagon and have no real thought of your own.

'A young person dies tragically, everyone asks, why can this be... what a cruel twist of fate...'

'how about, if that person grew up to be a serial killer or the next hitler... Death comes to us all for many reasons.. When a person dies, it is ment to be .. no matter how it comes knocking on your door'

Pallida Mors aequo pulsat pede pauperum tabernas regumque turres'

I remember being at a low point where even breathing became difficult because I felt like I was breathing in toxins. I wanted to die everyday. But I didn't really truly attempt. I coped with cutting.

Death seemed like a calling I couldn't go through with. As much as I desired it I couldn't go through with it because music is like my blood. Without it I know I won't be happy. And if I killed myself I doubt there would be a choir of angels welcoming me home....

I have not the sleightest doubt that I could end my own life....
the thing is there would require certain circumstances occurring to get me to the point of wanting to.....terminal illness....
life support requierd..that sort of thing...
but if there was a reason I considered worthy....not the sleightest hesitation..

Now this is a difficult subject because no one could ever know what a person who commits suicide was thinking. I know I tried once, the freaky thing was that as the razor dug in and the blood dropplets started to form, the wound healed. I don't even have a scar. I tried to drug my self, I got a headache. I was twisted and serverly fucked up. People who go so far as to try usually have a deep seeded problem that they can not deal with by themselves, but are to afraid to talk to someone about it. Sometimes death seems like a release from a situation that appears to be unleaveable. As for your eight year old friend, I think you'll find that he didn't really have a concept of what death meant. He more than likely thought he was going to wake up, just like going to sleep, but then I wasn't there so I wouldn't know. I hope I have helped.

i would love for him to come and get me because my life is meaningless

I agree with Nikolius.

I hate attention seekers

4 people started slashing their wrists to comite suicide in front of me.I just stood there, that thing repulses me

people kill themselves because they are sick of life...they don't care because the next life is coming after death...don't you belive in reincarnation?

Death is all around me. I've tried to kill myself many times because I have no reason to live.

people kill themselves because they have to not because they want to their lives get so confusing sometimes it is the only rational thing to do it sets them free from the pain

A dog is crossing the street and gets hit by a car . 10 minutes later , that same car drives off a bridge . The driver was so sorry about that dog that he couldn't live with himself . People kill themselves for the damnedest reasons . But usually they're too weak to handle the [usually unpleasant] situations they're in or those situations are too extreme .

Death by any means, including suicide results in people grieving their own loses. If and when someone chooses to take their own lives, I hope they are making that choice with a clear mind. Otherwise its just plain sad. I believe in free will.
I have lost too many friends that were fried when they choose to take their own lives. If they were in their right minds, they may not have made that choice.
For those who can not go forward, get some help. It is so difficult for those stuck in despair to reach out...
I do not believe its the cowards way out, I believe its the individuals perceived only way to end their pain.
My best friends mother commited suicide and 20 years later his father did the same. He never did move though his grief. My friend is dealing with this and perchance he will deal with all that pain a little better...with a little help from his friends.
~Lady~

it is a release if you are trapped it is the only relable way out. if you get it right, also its one thing you can control, how you die, when you die.

This life...
it ain't worth living.....

some commit suicide because they are depressed and feel that they are traped they're never happy they're always wondering y, they're always sad so finally they think if they kill them selves it would solve their problems....but one can never fully understand y unless they themselves try to commit suicide but fail in their attempt to end their life

Are we living to die, Or dieing to live?