Medical Facts about Vampires
As the 20th century evolved, rational man turned to science to explain mythology that had pervaded for thousands of years. How could a man be mistaken for a vampire? How could someone appear to have been the victim of a vampire attack? Science, in time, came back with answers that may surprise you.
Anemia
Catalepsy
Porphyria
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Anemia
Derived from the Greek word for "bloodlessness", anemia is a blood disease in which the red-cell count is unusually low. Red cells are the carriers of oxygen throughout the body. When a person suffers from anemia, their symptoms are caused by inadequate oxygen. These symptoms may include:
A pale complexion
Fatigue
Fainting spells
Shortness of breath
Digestive disorders
There are three main causes of anemia: disease, heredity, and severe blood loss. Over the ages, a person suffering from these symptoms may have been under suspicion of a vampire attack. Once again, myth warps to suit the needs of the believer. Although the victim may have contracted a disease or simply have inherited the blood disorder, society would have found it easy to believe that the symptoms resulted from a vampire attack. Indeed, these symptoms may even have suggested to our ancestors that the victim was beginning his own transition to a vampire, marked with a pale complexion and trouble eating food.
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Catalepsy
Catalepsy is a disorder of the nervous system that causes a form of suspended animation. It causes a loss of voluntary motion, a rigidity to the muscles, as well as decreased sensitivity to pain and heat. A person suffering from catalepsy can see and hear cannot move. Their breathing, pulse, and other regulatory functions are slowed to the extent that to an untrained eye, it would seem as though they were deceased. This condidtion can last from minutes to days. Before 20th century medicine came along, there were few diagnostic tests that could be done on a body to ensure it was in fact dead, and so it is possible and even likely that persons suffering from catalepsy could have been declared dead prematurely. Embalming a corpse before burial is also a 20th century idea, so it's very possible that these bodies were declared dead and buried while the person still lived. Upon recovering from their catalyptic state, the person would try to dig their way to the surface. Many myths may have arisen from this single condition alone.
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Porphyria
Of all the disorders and diseases even loosely linked to vampirism, the most bizarre must be porphyria. It is a rare hereditary blood disease; its symptoms so closely match the myths associated with our modern conception of vampirism it's eerie. A victim of porphyria cannot produce heme, a major and vital component of red blood. Today, this disease is treatable with regular injections of heme into the body. However, as little as fifty years ago, this treatment was unavailable and the disease unknown. In the past, a porphyria sufferer would show symptoms that include:
Extreme sensitivity to sunlight
Sores and scars that break open and will not heal properly
Excessive hair growth
Tightening of skin around lips and gums (which would make the incisors more prominent)
This disease would likely cause the victim to only go out at night, in order to avoid the painful rays of the sun. In addition, while garlic stimulates the production of heme in a healthy person, it would only cause the symptoms of porphyria to become more painfully severe. Porphyria was eventually discarded by scientists as a reasonable explanation of the vampire myth that has pervaded our history. Although vampire accounts of the past bear little resemblance to the dashing figure we romanticize today, these qualities may have contributed to our look at the vampire in film and fiction: pale skin, extended incisors, even the fear of the sun!
lmao yeah ppl knew nothing about medical science back then, jeez that had to suck ass. Now how would you explain a modern day vamp....like me? *evil grin*
I knew about the first two reasons for people thinking someone was a vampire back then, but the third one is a complete surprise to me... :-)
Thanks for the new info..
lol Imagine if one person had all three
Anemia
Catalepsy
Porphyria
:D
*jumps back...I must say that this is one of the few good researches I've read here...Well done
I read about those not to long ago. It is pretty interesting stuff.
Interesting and well put together. Thank you for the info:)
Ive heard that before i was hoping no one would notice that lol ~smiles~ im a 16th century vampire.
impressive!! this is the reason I am here!!
for info and insight.......well done!!
I also knew about the first 2 symptoms, but the 3rd is, like you said, eerie. thank you tons for that wonderful information! :)
very interesting info... just goes to prove how superstitious people were in the olden days.
also...the origin of the staking of the vampire was becuase villiagers thought the dead walked at night and attcked other villagers....so when one died...they *staked* them into the their coffin...so they wouldn't rise at night
Wolfman your right about that.. I've read that from a few different sources...
I also looked up the three diseases... and all I have to say is good job vampiric... very good info
thanx Lilyrose...I tend to read everything I can about vampires and legends
awww how sweet... everyone is posting that they want posts.... guess actually reading the post is a possibility thats ignored...
nice info i didn't know about the 3rd type thanks 4 the info it better then some of the stuff ive seen in here
well...i've read that the villagers staked, beheaded and scattered the remains of the vampire on consecrated ground just to make sure that they didn't miss anything...also read that back in old europe vampires actually walked in the daylight...
My grandmother has anemia. If she get cute she bleeds and will not stop until I put a band aid or something on it.
Thanks guys for all you comments, anyone has any more input then please add it to this thread :)
Very well done vampyric666, you pratically summed upp all the information from the scientific point of view.. I'll keep a copy for reference ... very good indeed
that seems weird yet cool i dont think they can explan me
Very interesting read. I'd also only heard of two. Excellent reserch I would like to know more if u would like to chat privately sometime
Its always good to see forum posts from people who actually know what theyre talking about.
Thank you for that. It has proved to be a very fascinating read!
I think its a good link betwen a version of human vampirism, which is always useful information to have.
Both Catalepsia and Porphyria are rare conditions, extremely rare. However, anemia is common and transient condition, thereby explaining away many of the supposed "vampire" outbreaks. During a cold winter, large amounts of livestock would die off leading to an increase in "vampires" that fall. This was a direct result of the lower consumption of iron containing meats and vegetables.
Nice post.. Good to see some intelligent thoughts on this board.
Very interesting read. Thank you for sharing the information.
Yeah its interesting to know that there are basically real Vampires out there. Its just a shame its due to illness, but its a fascinating medical condition.
Does anyone know anybosy with any of these conditions?
here's a nice link about that vampiric666...
http://www.shanmonster.com/witch/werewolf/porphyria.html
Yeah, people didn't have medcine back then... that's how witches and such got burned at the stake..
I never really thought of being anemic enough to get people to believe it... I suffer from that myself.. grab me the wrong way and I'll bruise..
but if I eat good amounts of good rare steak then I won't bruise except under extream measures...
i actually had a girlfriend last year that had the same condition
As many of you ladies may know many women become anemic when pregnant and have to take iron pills.
Yeah thats probably more common than any of the others.
That it is, although sometimes it's best not to try and explain the 'unknown'.
I knew of anemia and catelepsy, but didnt know about poryphera (not sure if I spelled that right...guess I shouldve checked) until I saw an old episode of csi this morning about a female with that condition. She had her dogs attack people and she would remove their organs (primarily the ones that held the most blood...heart, liver) and she would dry them, crush them into powder and use it in a protein shake. Sooooo odd.
lol i watched at episode last night, how interesting..
amd i have heard of thoes too..actually know of a few who the doctors have piled them with pills and tests to see if they cant " fix" thr problem.....
Doctors always try and fill people with pills to cure unknown or illness not understood.
those are interesting , how do you find that stuff out?
I work in the medical profession so its general knowledge.
Nice job vampiric666, I've read of these diseases myself too! that the reasonable explanation of the vampire myth! At least of one "kind" of vampires!
No problem, please add to the thread if you have more info.
Nice! Ive looked up alot of this, and Im glad to see Im not the only one. I have something called Von Willibrauns disease, which is kind of like anemia. Im missing a factor in my blood that does not allow it to clot as it should. (sorry if I misspelled it Im not concerned with it at the moment)
so much to be learned here at the VR ~ better than school :) LOL. Seriously, this has been a very informative thread...love it :) Thanks a lot.
If you follow it back far enough there was also one other thing that made people think of vampires...
coma's... caused by numeral things... sometimes posions they mistakkenly consumed in their forage for foods.
I have read about Catalepsy and Porphyria long time ago. Very interesting. There are other disorders/ diseases that are questioned as to having a link to vampirism as well.
Yeah there are many links, they all connect with each other.
One other disease that was found to be a basis for Vampirism was TB...
Because TB is so contagious, it was common for several members of a family to get it(especially in the old, unhygenic days when people were often poorly fed). The first person to die from the disease usually got blamed as being the vampire that was returning to prey on and weaken the others. _American Vampires discusses some cases that occurred in New England. In some of these cases the people actually dug up dead relatives, cut out and burned the hearts.
Just a tid bit. ;)
yeah,common thing for ppl2make of an not understood fact one evil mith...nice info.10x.
I really like the info you put on this forum! Very interesting read and informative. I knew about all three of them. Hey remember that movie "the others" where the two children had periphalia or however you spell it :P lol Good movie by the way :D ok I'm getting off topic again damn it! grrr :P
actualy this stuff was even in the movie blade trinity
i agree very impressive on your part but hypothasize this science is a fallasy they try to explain the unexplainable and rationalize things when some things just aren't rational the the human world...
well written and well researched......man will try to explain everything through either science or religion
The later one of the three I had never heard of before. It's absolutely intriguing. I'm planning to look it up myself, I'll try to report back on it sometime.
that was a good read
i knew of the medical vampireism
but feel that it is a problem more then ppl want to admit
I knew about many of those things you mentioned before hand, but thank you for elaborating.
What about haemophilia (sp.?) the condition where your blood does not clot? also it causes pale, thin skin, and daylight sensitivity.
thats a bad disease..i had a friend with it and it was scary...she couldnt do anything because the disease makes your skin very fragile and anything could puncture through and your left bleeding without any way to stop it..
I have similar articals in my Journal, some is speculation but some very interesting insights in to this subject
Very good subject you choose and useful information I think. Welldone.
like a lot of people posting i knew of the first two diseases mentioned but not the third nice job in research and posting of a possible explaination for some of the stories that cropped up about vampires
so if im reading what you wrote correctly....there are no such things as vampires
No it doesn't it just gives you an insight into the medical aspect of it.
Good read
apreciate that you took the time to research so that i could read and expand what i know!
copy and paste....
does not constitute reasearch...im not attacking you vampyric666...I think its an entertaining thread...but as far as the LardOfNoctemAeternus is concerned...uh...hello...isn't a medical fact a scientific fact?
I'm just curious...do people on this site have any education whatsoever...wait..let me rephrase..COMMON SENSE. or does the majority of people saying....good read...very interesting...or my favorite one so far...."inpressed young one good job nice read"
If they are medical facts...wouldn't that make them SCIENTIFIC FACTS.
O r are we all under the impression that the world is flat and the stars are pinholes in the sky.
but you are right vampyric666...they are my opinions
Good facts: I've heard of all 3 conditions before, but never thouhgt of them in the context of a potential explanation of vampirism!
And yes, anemia is very common during pregnancy: I experienced it myself. Iron pills, unfortunately, are extremely harsh, and if a woman's morning sickness is really bad she can't take the iron pills! I had to eat liver 3 to 4 times a week for 8 months...
i honestly ~liked~ liver until then!!! now, i can only eat it once in a while...
*shudder* Oh gods.. I would rather take the iron pills than eat liver any day. I was very anemic when I was pregnant. In fact, I usually am anemic anyway.
believe me, by the time i was done i was ~praying~ that the morning sickness would ease up so i ~could~ take the iron pills... no such luck! no, i threw up violently every day for 8 of the 9 months... i'd love to have another child, but there's ~no way~ i want to go through THAT again!!!
Taking medical conditions and classifying them to Vampirism is wishful thinking but that is what they are, medical condition.
Luscious I accept you are not having a go at me, but, I work in the medical profession so theses things arenot something I've gathered together from google.
Yes medical and scientific do tend to go hand in hand and I was not trying to find a link between Vampires and medical conditions.
I'm simply saying that in some cases they are explained by medical conditions.
And yes, people do have common sense and I agree with what you said about just putting 2 worded answers.
But at the end of the day, if you don't like the content of the thread don't post in it.
I dont think there was science enough to prove anything back then, Not enough Medical evidence ,. And being pregnant u do become anemic. It is so hard to explain the facts about vampires to the humans
medical facts are not always fact...it is a way to explain some conditions that doctors have no way to figure out what it is or how to treat it...thus in order to make the all might buck and look credible...they come up with the term "medical fact"...
look at how many times doctors are changing what origionally was a medical fact into something else..." new evidence shows..."
take your new evidence and shove it!! how are you kidding anyway? You have no clue!!!
*takes a breath* sorry i happen to have a very low opinion of doctors because they are for the most part, ignorant...