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I HAVE HERE, I photo taken by a friend.. NOW, the friend is an open-minded-sceptic...

THIS is HIS bus... and HE took the picture with a standard digital camera.. (nothing fancy) THIS photo is one of 4 taken in relatively quick succession.
The date on the picture is wrong.. this was done, this year.

OK.. he doesn't smoke and he was the only one on the bus.. none f the other pictures had this mist, (ectoplasma) in..
OK... NOW, on this picture.. Please look up tot he right hand- top of the photo, by the bell press button.. and then cast your eyes over the photo.. THAT is where I believe this entitys Head is...
a hat, perhaps!???

I won't make any further suggestions.. as I do not wish to contaminate this thread..

Do you see something?
I have also sent this photo, to professional paranormal Investigators.

I have never seen a mist, with Straight edges......

Out of simple curiosity...why did he take the picture to begin with?

I can see what you're seeing...I can see a round topped hat with a larger rim, a little like a cowboy hat but the top is rounded...

I also can make out facial features underneath of a guy, people will see different things

He just bought the bus and wanted to take pictures of it!

When I look closely I dont see anything, when I move myself back a little bit it's clearer, I'd sell the bus if I was him lol

i deff see it . thats a trip

Definitely interesting. I'm looking forward to the results of your investigation!

I see it too! Very cool!

We also had a similar thread about ghosts in pictures. Many people dispute it. I personally believe that is most certainly is possible. But then again, I love any thing that is unexplained!

Well I hate tu be a "doubting vampire" but when I look out the bus windows I see a cloudy damp day, is it simple moisture on the camera lens?

That doesn't look like moisture or condensation to me, it looks like mist/fog

It IS possible... but It looks like a mist, to me.. it has depth to it.. giving the illusion that it is not flat on the lense.

OOh, it looks like Excalibur holding his sword whilst he takes the bus. Snickers, well we have rather run short on horses now so that figures! *Minx* great photo babe, it looks like its a daylight shot though, so I am wondering is there any glass in the area of the shot that the light could of bounced back and fused like that?

I dont see how anyone can see that as fused light, it's either photoshop'ed or mist lol

I do know that I could create something similar to that using photoshop

Not saying you have Minx, Im going with that its really there :P

minx i think u r right. i do see what u are talking bout. but at the same time i cant remember the name but he mentioned it was cloudy out side. with that said it could be one of the two theories said. in the end it is up to the person to make there own choice of to believe or not.

So I get this straight, HE did not see this phenomena, it only appeard in the photo..correct?

I myself am a VERY skepical person, but if, as you say, the photos were taken in quick succession, then moisture on the lens isn't very likely.

I do see what you are reffering to, but have no good explaination.

hang on to that bus.. and he needs to find out the history of that bus, where it was in commission, and all that!

i agree with Darkest Desires. i would see if it posible to find out if anything has happened on the bus and give a more clear insight as to if this phenomenom could exist.

he didn't see it with his own eyes.. he was clicking away and with the other eye shut. ( i had already exhausted most questions like THAT)
this wasn't on the next photo he took..
just one...
he's used a flash too..
I dunno.. Emearald.. I think A light fuzz, would be sharper and more lucid.. not so softly misty, perhaps>?
I will ask him to find out more about the history of the Bus.. if it was in an accident perhaps...
and the passenger might be STILL tryin to get to Peckham!!
LoL

Wow, that is a phenomenal picture indeed! Is it just me or does it kind of look like two eye sockets of a skull too? Well I cant wait to hear what the pro's say!

creepy =O omg!

Mist looks two dimensional not three. The human mind will always look for familiar faces in everything. Sure Jesus isn't in that mist somewhere? lol.

Yes, we do look for faces in everything, BUT where did the mist come from? It was the only picture with mist, there was no smoke on the bus, and obviously the guy didn't see anything else unusual. How do you explain something like that?

2 dimensional meaning WHAT?
a flat mist?

plus there is the straight edge to consider.. Please read the initial post thoroughly before you post a response. This was in just 1 pic out of 4 in the same area, SECONDS apart.

Yeah, I was wondering about the flat mist thing too, lol. But I still cant believe that he didn't see anything before hand, and it just showed up in this picture, but they do say that ethrics travel in just split seconds. Its unbelievable that it was cought on film.

Well, yes its more misty than glass flashback, ghostly shape Minx!

I still see a flat mist, if that is clear to you. It does not go behind the first row of seats. As seeing anything..I see a figure that looks like the character from star wars seating in the upper right. I would also would like to know why someone would take four quick shots of a bus. Seems suspicious to me.

She already said why, her friend had just bought the bus so he was taking pictures of it. Kind of like when you buy a new car you take a bunch of pictures of it, you know? And if it is an ethric, the whole spirit is going to travel together. The fact that the "mist" is all in one spot IS what makes it so amazing, and why we think its more than just a breeze. How a breeze of mist would get there is beyond me though.

Why would it go around the first set of seats if the thing is actually infront of it like it looks :|

Don't mind me, damn bifocals. O.o
It also may be the sun coming out and hitting the bus ,lighting the vapor mist that was already present in the bus. Ask him if the weather was humid or not.

It looks like a thumbprint on the lens to me, but that doesn't tie in with 4 shots being taken in quick succession and it only being on one.

Can't see what you mean in it but am going to keep looking for it :o

Thumb print, very interesting!

I just looked at the picture again & I can see what you mean, if you look at it like that, it does actually look like a finger smudge

to me, the mist looks like it is above the seats.. next to the grab rail.

As for star wars.. well, You NEVER KNOW!! ;)

Why would somones 'new toy' be suspicious!!?? I explained why photos were taken. I know the person that took this picture, well. he is a mate, and had just bought this bus.

But then again if its a finger smudge, it wouldn't have sharp angles like that picture clearly does on the right hand side

My personal opinion of that picture as a graphic designer would be that somebody knows how to use photoshop :)

VelvetRose.. he has bad eye-sight and wears glasses.. He removed them BEFORE he took the pictures.. he said he saw nothing at all abnormal.
I even asked if his breath created mist (if it was cold and such) he said no.. This is why he brought this to me.. coz he can't explain it.

Scott, as a pro using Photoshop, do you think you could produce a picture like that...?

im 99.9% positive a picture could be produced like that. im not saying its a fake....im only saying what i see :)

thereis something or someone there...u can see the face and the shoulders...he lucky to have caught it on film..

OK.. fake aside.. I really need your fedback on WHAT you see guys.. this guys wants to know if his bus is haunted!!
LOL
I personally can't wait for the PI's to come back on this.

I am sure photos can be 'doctored' hell I have had a pic of ME, look like a zombie!!
Didn't take much!!

I assure you... this is a picture that mymate took..
If you doubt the authenticity.. please just humor me.. this is serious for us back here.

http://www.biorust.com/tutorials/detail/229/en/

heres a perfect example of the effect used....

the main differing factors being another picture was used on a transparent backround and the picture was grayscaled, misted, set to screen..then the layer way placed into the bus and was blended in.

this is my opinion.

I think it's authentic Minx, Im just logical & trying to rule every possibility out lol

K after seeing that link I think it's definately photobucket'ed lol...I do see the hat though.

GodsHand...
I appreciate your opinion..

But whether it is REAL is not the REASON for the post.. I wish to hear what people, SEE.

A guy with a hat on and a big ball of photoshopped mist...

This is a situation where your friend will probably need to have the original picture file still in the digital camera, (because you have no negatives) if he wants an accurate investigation of this picture.

It's interesting though because the more I look at it the more I notice that the mist doesn't really seem to be in the bus. It's behind the nearest pole to the right but it still seems to be more popping out of the picture than back in it.

I wouldn't leap to conclusions and say that this is photoshopped because I use photoshop a lot and just the way it seems to curve forward in the center is interesting...

of course little digital cameras can easily malfunction...I don't really know, just saying what I see.

Oh lordy.. I hope you get your answers

Ok, looking at it without trying to work out what it is i can see a girl with long dark hair in the top right corner. Her face is a bit obscured though

At the bottom, the "mist" looks likes its moving away from the camera towards the centre

Hope your friend gets an idea from the PI what this could be. When i first looked at it i saw the hat. When i looked at it a 2nd time i definitely saw a face of sorts. Thats to cool. Maybe the bus has a past & he needs to figure out the history of the bus. Might help understand the face more....

Looking at your description and then looking at the picture i could definately see the wide brim hat. Then when i looked a little more closly i thought i could define a face. I dont know. That is kind of insane! What fun though

well i believe in this kind of thing... but to me that looks like glare.

careful guys coz our minds like to play tricks on us just by seeing a mist or a smugg ...

is the bus old or new?

bumbed...I cant see the hat

To capture something like that is ... exciting... but I think everyone has seen stranger things than that at least once.

i see the head i think.

Sorry to bust the bubble, but that looks like a smeared fingerprint. Especially on a damp day using a flash or having anothersource of light reflected towards the lens...

Ok..what I'm seeing is a cloaked figure, a hood over his head and it appears one of his hands is obstructing the lower part of what I assume is his face.
Not sure about hats or anything like that...
this is just what I'm able to interpret out of this pic. :)

Wow! That is very interesting!

Regarless if real or not, I love photos like this as they spark the imagination, the "what if" of all that is around us.

As for it being real, no doubt having been caught in other mists I have no doubt that at times they can act as a way of altering our subconscious.

it see it now!!!!

it see it now!!!!

I see a tall man. Very cool. Thanks for sharing.

i personally can't see anything but smoke. BUT my BF was laying across the rrom and said he could see a man's face and hat.....and I only asked if he could see anything in it.....
Shrugs....I guess I don't have the eyes for it.

that's rad. it could be a ghost, seeing as how they show up as misty figures

Real or not, to me the mist looks like an old time miner leaning forward.

What do other people see, I see a bit of what Nihonin (sorry about the spelling, I never seem to get it rigth!) although at first it seemed more child like to me.

No Liebe, you spelled it right. :)

I think the more opinions of what is seen more people will "see" it as well.

Someone may say that it looks like a child, then more people will see a child. I said it looked like a miner and you can see it now. To me it's all in how your eyes "interpret" the mist.

it looks to me that the figure is male around 6ft + in height and wearing a baseball cap. however he seems to be wearing a cloak too which is strange.

but he definately is there and seems to be either smiling or smirking.

i take wedding picture with my aunt and if we don't clean the lenses really well and if the light hits the lens a certian way it has a similar effect.

but it every well could be more

I believe in it but to me it looks like cigerete smoke, forming into something and I do ghost hunt and very sensitive to things like that

Is your freind sensitive to spirits, and if so I'm guessing he had no other manifestation?

You might look in the the history of what has happened on the bus also.

I would have to admit at frist look I thought I was looking at a smokey Bus but on further review the picture dose have a shape about it.

It is a flash reflection of the pole. It si not in the other photos because the angle was not right for it to bounce back.

interesting, it's very very very hard to capture mist on camera

It is possible that is is just me but when I look at it I see someone who like like the guy off the beer battered fish commercial

very strange....looks too white to be mist...nice

looks like a face inside the mist to me

When I moved back, like a person before me said, the mist looked like it was moving in one place. I wonder what that was all about?

THat is very interesting. I can definately see what the others are seeing.

I too see a face in the mist/smoke... Some of us will and some wont.. We all have our own perspectives on this.. BUt i will not mock you.. This is a very interesting photo, i will give you that.
When will you find out more from the investigaters?

I have a picture of a guy who took apicture of himself in an old mirror with my camera... He did this shortly before he stole tha camera and a a bunch of other things... but the picture was unusalble because of the glare that looks identical to this. Most mirrors these days are too perfect to set up this kind of glare...but if you look at the way the hilights on the poles are ... and various other things (like the aforementioned looks like fingerprints) it is highly likely that it si the glare from the pole. i see many things in the photo... and it is a wonderful tory to tell... but i think your frined has no concern about ghosts. I think if I were him I would post the picture on my bus as a keepsake and make up a story about it.
The ghost bus... Do.do.dooo

I don't see a anything that could be called a hat or a head when I look at that pic...sorry...

I do see a hat when I look at the pic.....it's one the far right-hand side. That's pretty cool.

I REALLY have a hard time believing that it is just a glare or photoshop. I have taken several classes and done many jobs as a graphics designer. I'm practically a pro at photoshop and I COULD NOT do that. If you look at the way it curves it doesn't look like ANY of the brushes or tools you can find. NONE.

Wow minx thats an awesome photo and if I was your friend I would find out the history, get the names of previous drivers see if someone had a heart attack or stroke on the bus. I can see this is no ordinary mist of fog, if there was a fog it would be outside the bus as well... possible smoke but it would have been in the other photos as well.

So I agree this is a ghostly encounter, I can see the hat and a face under it so its definitely something. I am normally a skeptic until all things are ruled out... and it seems to be the case here.

I see something in there. It would be interesting to know what you find out about the picture. If I was him I would get rid of the bus. Something doesn't seem right with it.

Velvet, if you find it hard to believe & you've done countless graphics, you should look further up in the thread were GodsHand gave a link to pictures that had been photoshop'd & they look exactly like that.

I could produce a picture with mist like that in a few minutes.

Im not saying the picture isn't authentic, Im saying it is extremely possible that it's PS'D, as I've done similar pictures myself

interesting picture.ive seen lots of wierd stuff but kinda looks like he was smoking a doobie and forgot that he exhailed.my parents live in a valley and we get alot of fog and mist in the spring wich makes for cool pictures.ive seen some pretty amazing stuff as there is a swamp across the street so methane and such adds to it. (i have taken lots a hundred or so)but ive never seen it so prominent inside even when it was as thick as pee soup outside.

The only way to tell if this is a real ghost type picture is to let experts look at it and it will still not be known but atleast it can be examined by people who knows what real ghost pictures look like..Why did he take the picture in the first place ?

RavenKnight..
He took 4 pictures as he had just bought the bus plans to do it up!

Kinda like before and after pictures!
he took 4 pictures in quick succession.

thats interesting, i see the hat and the fhead n i can also see part of a torso.

I have studied this picture.. Moved away from the screen and I noticed what some of you have said... It looks like the mist is kinda movinf on the left hand side (spiralling)... the sharp edge to the upper right is what interested me the most tho!!
a mist with a hard edge!!

I am SURE photoshop can do stuff.. Like i said I have turned in to a Zombie with photoshop!
I mean look what it can do to celebss skin with flaws???
I have sent this picture to a PI team.... I had a message back from initial viewing.. that if the mist was from external humidity.. the windows of the bus would have been at least a little misted up.

hum ok I hold my hands up and say all I can see is something that may well be a face kingda skull like maybe? no hat though arg i'm going blind.....maybe if iI had my glasses on it would help?

Away from the PC i can see a person wearing a hat.

up close , i can't see anything but mist..

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