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What does your religion say about what is good and what is evil? And if you are not religious, what are your ideals of good and evil?

Self defined perpectives based on the situation at hand. What is in yourself interest, or self sacrifice, and the consequences of the actions relating to such.

I have no religion. I guess what you would call an athiest. But, I used to believe that everyone had some good in them. But, over and over through life, I have been proven wrong. Even the religious people showed some kind of evil...So I stopped believing in anything.

Hmmm... Maybe I should have been more definitive.
What in your religion or ideals, constitutes as evil?
For instance; Man1 kills Man2 for Man2's money... thats evil in my book.
Man1 kills Man2 to protect Man1's family... thats good.
Now I know there are multiple religions on here, I was wondering, what the various religions define as good and evil and what are each individual's ideals on good and evil.

I hope that made sense.

Oh ok. I feel silly now.

To me, Evil people are the ones who use another, to benefit from them. Such as money, or sexual things. Evil people are money hoarders, who won't give a cent even to save thier family members from poverty. Men who beat their wife/girlfriend/children. I could go on, but I wont.

And to me, good people are the ones who take time to help others, like family, and friends. The people who would help an old lady with her groceries....etc.

I don't claim any religion.

Someone who is always putting others first before his or herself, always helping out when they can, always kind to others and very respectful, showing Trust and Honesty is the definition of a good person in my book.

Someone that is thinking of only themselves, cutthroating other people to benefit themselves in some way, or someone who would kill another person is a definition of an evil person.

There are so many descriptions that can be given for both good and evil, but I gave just a few.

Evil is only a point of view. The point of view which is evil come from the ideals and laws that people believe are right. Basically this definition states that evil is in everyone

I agree with most it is all in you're prospective of a situation

Like most here have said the definition of good and evil is situation. What migght be good in one instance will not be in another.

Different variances change things and the outcome of events and what will be the outcome of future events.

Pretty much what maybe evil to one is not to another and it is all in the interpretaional sight of the individual and their beliefs.

to me evil is when one kills innocent kids and adults..child molesters and such..A satanist uses their wiles about themselves to achieve what they want in any way they can get it..

And good in ones depends on how they do..doesnt matter in which way but

I could write a whole book about how I define good and evil... But to keep it short, an evil person to me is someone who does everything for his own selfish purposes or with cruel intentions... Let's say, the opposite of a good person who'd be honest, caring, trustworthy and so on.

I understand that its dependent in each person's eyes.
Ok I'll throw out another for instance:
Christians (all forms) see Muslims as evil. All Muslims are going to Hell.
Muslims see all Christians as infidels that are destined to Hell.
2 religions that come from the same history, yet their Ideals towards each other are warped and twisted. I'm no theologian nor do I want to be, but why is it one religion sees something evil where the other doesnt?

that doesnt make one evil by getting what he or she wants..least in my books it doesnt..good is alot of things so..i am a satanist so that isnt evil but i am still kind, caring and loyal..will take up for my family and friends..shakes my head

I apologize again Winter.

But Christians see Satanists as evil... I dont know much about Satanism but from the little I read they adhere to a strict moral code.

well i see Xtians as evil..For they do as we do but hides it..why hide it? but yet they call us evil? haha..dont get me started on that..You see evil in those on tv begging for money or sinning but yet that is okay? i know this thread isnt about it but..Same thing

I know what you mean...

More input from other religions and/or persons of various beliefs!

I know ppl doesnt want to see or hear that but thats the way i feel..thinks it is main thing that helped me make my decision and i know i made right one..One thing i want to make clear and that is i am not saying all Xtians are evil and i am not cramming this down anyone's throat but look at the world today..And tell me if that isnt reason for one..well nevermind

i belive that People use people against eachother and harm others that is evil,When u help some one with something then that is good or do something for family or another ,. Id say if a your protecting your family thats one thing if the other person is hurting some one in ur family and u kill them then that is good. But if u kill him and he didnt harm your family and only had intensions of doing so then that is evil.

i agree with you but doesnt mean that an xtian can do whatever and all they get is a pop on the hand..that isnt right..shrugs oh well..

we all have a good and evil in us i believe

"Without religion, good people would do good things and bad people would do bad things, it takes religion to make a good person do a bad thing".

The reason I have no religion.

Honour, loyalty and love have seen me through to this point in my life.

YOU choose between good and evil.

Very well put Cere .. I also think that any one who murders , rapes , and harms young children and the innocent , do things for the wrong reason and for personal gain is evil .
Ones who help others even those they don't know like strangers ,like what alot of people did when Katrina hit New Orleans that is good ..
But that's just my opinon on this .

Good and Evil I think everyone knows what is good and what is evil kind of like a compass that will always point north.

All things in this thread are just opinions. Please share them.

I have shared my view on it lol what ore is there to share you are either good or evil unless you are one of the few people who can find a balance of the two.

I believe that good and evil coexist, and there cannot be one without the other. They balance each other, and exist in every living being.

Thats all well and dandy but WHAT is good and evil?

Giving money to the homeless... Good I guess
Kicking the homeless... I suppose that could be evil.

it all depends on your actions because no matter what you do or say it doesn't matter because what matters is the intent. You may do a good deed but only to make yourself look good.

How is that evil? How is doing "good", even if its for you benefit evil?

because you are doing it to make yourself look better or appear better

What makes that evil though? I like to be conceited every now and then, its uplifting to myself... Is that evil as well?

I was brought into a catholic family..but my religious values varey..i believe there is good or bad in every aspect of life. I think it diffres from sumones actions. Like murder, rape etc..i find that evil..since i dont choose one religion i guess it depends on my views of what i consider evil

Good and Evil are merely perceptions...

Suppose God and the Devil did exist... suppose God thinks what IT is doing is 'Good,' does the Devil think what IT is doing is 'Evil,' or is it IT's perception of 'Good?'

throughout history people have done evil things and thought it was good. hitler thought what he was doing was good for his people. thomas torquemada thought he was doing good for god. the soldiers that took mi li thought they were doing good for democracy. james nobel thought he was saving lives when he invented dynamite.

is it the ends or the intention that make something evil, or just how others view it.

morality is rarely a simple case of good or bad - there are so many shades of grey. if you are a pet owner who neglects and beats a dog, you are bad - but if you are a scientist who dissects or poisons a live monkey to create a cure or test a product for safety, you are good. or so society believes.

good and evil are moral judgments - rules that have evolved to protect the group.

I think in order to make a judgement on any good/evil the whole picture needs to be seen.

As humans living in this dimension that is generally not possible.

So, we do what we can the best we can, according to our understanding.

I definately agree with Carvall... there would need to be the whole story.. man1 kills man2 to protect his family, but man2 was robbing man1's house to feed his.. it would be hard to say without the entire story

I agree with all the above but my point is why does getting what you want by any means make you evil? everyone does it even the best xtians..i see this and i know i am not the only one..so why does everyone blame it on satanists or what not? so what, we are a religion and just like human nature, we get what we want..why hide that fact like some xtians i know..and i mean big time xtians..

I am a Satanist...and yes, we do adhere to strict moral codes.

I don't consider other 'religions' evil, but what does annoy me is when they try to force it down your throat so to speak.

In my eyes, anyone who commits crimes of any description against children or animals is evil and should receive the worst form of punishment imaginable

Agrees also..But why does Ones think just because we believe different that we are evil? What about the ones who does do bad things to kids? I mean look at what so called xtians do? And all they get is a slap on the hand? And that makes it right? Please..Least We do not hide things but doesnt try and force it down anyones throat..So why are we called evil?

The Catholic faith are the worst kind.

Using their 'religion' as a blanket to hide behind and cover up their 'indiscretions' that go on behind closed doors.

Very well said Sir and i am glad You are the One who said it..*laughs* That is exactly who i was meaning so..

I think good and evil is defined by the situation at hand like it was said to kill to protect your family is good but those that kill for greed or sport or for no good reason is evil.

my ideals for good and evil are simple easy. SATANISTS! ahah

Those are all spectacular answers. Lets keep this thread going.

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Re: Good and Evil
Posted: 02:57:04 - Aug 27 2007
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What makes that evil though? I like to be conceited every now and then, its uplifting to myself... Is that evil as well?

WEll for all intentive purposes doing a deed to better yourself as in make your self look good in the graces of the powers that be could be seen as not neciarily evil but alternative agendas.

i just dont understand how Satanists can be evil just cause we are Satanists..Evil comes in all religions, so why pick on Satanists? thats my point..And an upstanding Xtian can go out and do evil but yet no one thinks that evil? to use any means to get what they want? how is that right?

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, I've been out of the American Media for a while but last I checked those Catholic priests were getting busted hard for the child groping stuff.

I am not religious but both can not exist without eachother.
I think what people do is up to them but find it evil if it harms/hurts some-one else.

Many human actions may be morally void or even mean and deceitful, but I reserve the term 'evil' for truly rare individuals who seem to lack the most basic human compassion. Though in truth, they too are likely victims themselves of poor mental health or early trauma.

To simply say someone or something is evil is to excuse individual responsibility. No person is really evil (uncontrollable and fated to do evil deeds). Personal choices, and personal morals for every situation makes us all responsible for our actions both in our eyes and any gods we may worship.

what one person does in everyday life one person in the world will call it evil in some way.

it was more then just groaping by the priests.

thats my point..they can do what they wish but yet get a slap on the hand but you let one of us do something like that and guess what..we are evil and get life or whatever..how does that make it right? look at the ones on tv begging for money and abusing that? thats a sin

true makes you wonder if the pope is really a virgin. All I am saying is there is no way to tell if a guy is a virgin you can't look at his genitals and say yeap virgin lol. Well there is one way to tell msg me if you want to know lol

again, It depends on the believer(follower) For an example, the firefly clan off of devils rejects seemed they did not think they were eveil. Lots of veiw points, but only all of them are true....

No what I'm saying about the priests, last I heard they were going to do jail time.
Also see that getting into the subject of people getting away with anything, goes into the subject of money.
Hell, I bet Bill Gates could go on a killing spree and pay of the judge, thus enabling him to get away with an evil.

i bet that too..it isnt right for ones to call us evil just because we are different..and i dont really care if pope is a virgin or not..laughs

Well, I am a proud member of the Satanist community. In our religion, almost everything that is considered "evil" by society's standards is "good" in the eyes of a Satanist. Likewise, most things that are "good" to society are "evil" to Satanists.

I say most things because, like every religion, there are exceptions. For example, a common misconception of Satanism is that we molest children and sacrifice virgins/infants for our own pleasure or for ritual purposes. Satanists do NOT encourage such acts, by any means whatsoever. Nor do we encourage blood sacrifice, animal or otherwise, unless it is your own blood that is being spilled, or the blood of a human who DESERVES such punishment.

Naturally, the concept of good versus evil is a complicated one, and we may never know the truth about what is really good or really evil. Everyone has their own beliefs, whether they belong to a religious sect or not. No two people think exactly the same way.

Very true GothGoddess..and well said..You have a point but the so called good ones do whatever and it is okay but let us and look..my Church doesnt approve of those either and it is up to You if you decide to do so...but it isnt right to judge us by stereotypes..

I myself, do not truly believe and good or evil... Positive and negative, but 'good' and 'evil' are not my personal perception.

the world is changing so much so it is hard to tell between good and evil so..i myself is a good person but a satanist

So MsXtremehate... what would you call rape? I mean.. thats evil all the way around as far as I'm concerned. I understand the negative... but negative is such a common word for a soldier it doesnt befit the full disgusting-ness of rape.

isnt that like lying and getting the ones you so called love to believe that..thats evil and has nothing to do with satanism..but evil is evil no matter who does it

Bill Gates has enough money he can pay to have someone killed he wouldn't need to do it himself lol. So what catagory does he fall under evil? for supplieing the funds and means to commit such a crime although not pullning the trigger himself?

shouldnt matter how it was done..he still would be guilty so evil..doesnt mean nothing on how rich or poor you are, we are still humans just different points of views

Good and Evil is in us all.. It is not defined by a religion or a code of conduct it is how one lives their life..

There is temptations thrown at us all the time but it is what we choose to do that defines the good or evil in ones self.

I'm inclined to disagree Redemption.

I think good and evil IS defined by a religion. If it wasnt for a religion, murder wouldnt be condemned as it is.

This is why?

Do you have to have religion to be considered good or evil?

I dont believe in a so called religion but then again I dont go out shooting people or wishing harm to any one.. It is the way I was brought up and the way live my life that defines that...

there will be many opinions on what ever but it still comes down to you as a person..

not sure i agree with that myself..but as i have said before..to each their own..but not all Satanists are evil

But where did those morals and values come from Redemption? Somewhere done your family line somebody prayed to something that told them that murder is evil.

Its all relative. Good and Evil are mad-made concepts. To some people, sex before marriage is evil, yet for most people, it's just gooood!

I totally agree with GothGoddess .... everything that is 'pleasurable' is considered a Sin by the Xtian faith ... but why should 'man' suffer for things they enjoy??

The Catholic faith, in my opinion, is based on fear....if you live like a Saint you will reap the benefits and go to Heaven, yet if you misbehave you will burn for all Eternity in Hell. How can one faith decide your fate?? Surely it is up to the individual how they live their life...at the end of the day, as sentient beings, we all have the power to think for ourselves.

Rather than try to define good and evil acts and situations it is really just much easier and more accurate to describe the proper state of spirit and soul.

Self centeredness while not necessarily evil in itself will almost certainly allow one to act in an evil manner at times.

Other centeredness will almost never lead to evil and will allow you to do the most good.

good and evil are just made on how you look at things good can be evil from one persons view and not from anothers and visvercer

I don't necessarily have good, and evil in my religion. You yourself base it on your own actions as a person.

Aside from the religions version of good and evil..men and women all have a bit of both in them..Good and Evil isn't taught 100% of the time.Just like racism is taught..a child isn't born hating other races or nationalities...they grow up seeing how their family is...calling others names and such.Everyone is born innocent....free of evil...of hate and anger.What they see around them,what they hear around them is what cause them to hate to become "good" or "evil".
What is GOOD...and what is EVIL??
Not what a dictionary says...what does it truly mean??

I think everyone's idea of good and evil differ on how they were raised.
A child who is raised to believe a religion somewhere can come over here and be told what he has learned is evil.
It all depends on how one is taught. I think that the perception of good and evil is actually a learned thing

I agree with you Arvalin. Good an Evil is taught just like prejudice is taught in my opinion. Children are born innocent , a clean slate if you will, and are taught in their caretaker's view what is right and wrong - good and evil and so on. Ultimately it is up to the person to decide after all they have experienced and were taught, their own views on what makes something good or evil or otherwise.

Good and Evil... good being things that help you or other people.
Evil.. things that hurt you or others....i dont think all people are evil or good i think its the moment at which the occurance happens

i think people shouldnt talk about good and evil as if they where 2 sides of a coin there like to ends of a stick some where they have to meat and then the lines become blered as to what is what and some people will class things different to others

There is more to being good then giving money or help to another...as there is more to being evil then kicking a homeless person.You can be the best person in the world and still have evil in your heart.

no such thing, it's all a matter of perspective, if a person believes a religion strong enough it's either human or inhuman to what it is. Just tons of things go into that.

agrees with DarkWolfMan..But why is it always the Satanists or Others who doesnt agree with Xtians anymore who get called evil? There are so many points and views on both good and evil..Shouldnt matter how one believes for anyone to judge them as good or evil

I think its all to do with Gods commandments. Good can be your feelings towards people, love, respect, treating people equal, helping poverty, helping the sick, just like Jesus did in his life. Evil could be killing innocent people, creulty to animals, being racist, treating people horrible. I think communism and fascism is evil, what Hitler did to all those millions of Jews, that were massacred, just for being Jewish, that was a total act of evil.

I dont think self defence would be evil, because that is protecting yourself, friends, and family from harm from others.

I see a lot of what one of my teachers called "situational ehtics" (look it up sometime.

My definition comes from my religion. Love God with everything you are and you will love man. The reason, God is love. Those who have bad press or are just ignorant and claiming this dicipleship and not loving everyone else are fooling themselves. That being said, I am evil according by that count... I would kill anyone who hurt my kids, wife or was going to kill someone else without cause (read the first entry)...so that is my opinion in a nutshell. Copy that?

I am not religious- I am pretty much a Humanist, and I believe that the polar opposites exist simply as one negates the presence the other- however, they are extremes that are VERY rarely, if at all, as clear as "good and "evil"- there are usually two sides.

I believe that we are all extremnely good at labelling each other as one or another, but not being able to see that the choices that we all make are very important, instead of just using these harsh extremes, we should concentrate on the smaller aspects in our everyday lives.

Good is doing things of a constructive nature. Things based on selfless love.
Evil is doing things of a destructive nature. Things based on selfishness. It's actually that simple. Good and evil comes from actions, not nature.

Good - My version of good is never doing anything that would harm others, human and animal alike.

Evil - The direct opposite.

I wish I could answer that but I'm not really all that religious.

But if I were to choose a religion it would have to be one that would allow me to drink or smoke as much as I want or else forget it I'm staying non religious.

This isnt about what your religion is... its just what is good and what is evil to you.

Do as thou wilst, shall be the whole of the law.

**Sandman** Your thread starts out with religion "What does your religion say about what is good and what is evil? And if you are not religious, what are your ideals of good and evil?"

That implies that religion is part of what answer you are seeking, else even mention it in you opener?

Besides the fact that religion plays a huge role in most people on the site (for evidence see the poll of that title).

Saying that religion or some personal credo does not affect ones choices in determining good or evil acts is like saying how bald is bald or how blue is blue. It is affected by ones perspective and that is colored by thier values, which in many cases, is some form of religion. You need only look to global polls of what percentage of people consider themselves one religion or another. It obviosly play a very important role, albeit poor in some cases.

Maximus, you misinterpreted what I meant with that.
Grandmaster said, "I wish I could answer that but I'm not really all that religious." Which denotes that he finds nothing evil and nothing good... or I could misinterpret that, which is not uncommon over the net.
Now if you would skip back to what I said at 01:37:54 - Aug 28 2007

"I think good and evil IS defined by a religion. If it wasnt for a religion, murder wouldnt be condemned as it is."

I completely agree with you on the aspects of good and evil being defined by religion. I'm not much of a history buff, but I do know that religion has played a key part in shaping the world as we know it.

Indeed, as you are well aware, from the area of your current residence. Stay safe my brother. I too pick sand from my boots from time to time as a reminder...KKMC Saudi etc etc etc.

I am agnostic so....in other words....I dont care lol

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