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I'm interested in reading some of the personal interpretations of this very popular prophetic writings, It seams to denote the vision of a impending doom yet to counter, but how much of it is riddles and how much of it is interpretation of imageries, how to read the beasts, the horsemen, the second coming, the antichrist and the seals? some tend to be presented in literacy and other in symbolism. Those who have read the books; what are your take on that matter? OR is it all a well orchestrated vision that others could use in advantage of more recent times.




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*Chuckles* I think I could be interested in the answers to this thread, since not one individual nor scientist or philosopher has come up with any answers that are worthy of say TIME magazine, or History Channel documentaries.



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When I went to Liberty University one area I focused on was advanced Biblical prophecy so naturally I've basically got the book of Revelations memorized lol.

I think it's made up of two parts 1) the literal side and 2) a less literal more imaginative and analogous part. Which is which is really up to the individual with the help of the Holy Spirit.

Anyway, I do think that it deals with the time from around 1930 until the near future.

When trying to understand some of the more "colourful" descriptions of things we have to remember that it was written by someone nearly 2000 years ago. He was looking at images of things today and in our future through Roman age eyes. So chariots with fire coming out the back were probably actually cars, fire spiting creatures, vehicles of war etc.

I do believe 100% in it's truth.



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Exactly the whole deal about the vision of people speaking with/using rocks, as the direct interpretational analogy of "cellphones" in modern times ,that would look as a piece of rock to someone who was limited to the imagery of his time period and surroundings. Although the tribulation sound too assimilative and somehow flawed in convictions, either you follow one or the other, the grey areas or confusions does not exist, so those who are non adherent to the present condition what judgement is placed? the "mark of the beast"? for not knowing is the real deal. I mean if a guy comes saying he is the incarnation of Jesus Christ wouldn't there be reasonable skepticism knowing the opportunist behavior of individuals in our society. Is either follow blindly with "faith" or die insecure to the moment. I could easily see people believing that if you assist mass suicide you could be ascended to another plane (heavens) and saved, and could see a substantial amount of people following by faith with no security of what they are following, which could turn out to be another thing coming.



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The book of Revelations... It's an interesting subject for theologians, conspiracy theorists, and casual propheteers alike.

I think that the visions are the writings of someone stuck on an island alone for far too long. To me, it goes along the same lines as Nostradamus. Whether it has greater or lesser credibility depends upon one's perspective.

I don't think that the book makes a lot of sense in today's world. Even if it is a book of prophecy, it falls prey to the same problems as all prophecies: you don't know what it's really talking about until that event occurs. In which case, prophecy is pretty useless.



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personally, i think that it's one of the most out there sci-fi books every written with a lot of inside jokes about things that where happening at the time. (like the number of the beast is actually a hebrew numerology joke about nero).

as a prophecy, it's just like anything else out there, it only has value if you give it any



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You know, it is sort of like watching the movie: The Ring. The world will end in seven days, but with a twist. "what? Ben's gay?



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In earlier editions of the Bible that weren't changed by the Protestants, Revelation was not considered canon and originally referred to as Apocalypse. It was included because some thought it might be apocraphal in nature. I have read elsewhere about who John actually was or believed to be. It wasn't written concerning future events but dealing with the Romans. The Christians wrote in code concerning trying to over-throw the power of the Romans who were persecuting them. Here is some other information.

Many scholars believe Revelation 13:12 is actually a reference to the legend of Nero redivivus. Although Nero committed suicide in 68CE, many believed he would rise from the dead in the future, possibly because they thought his death was faked, and that he had simply gone into hiding for a period of time. If this was the case, then John's vision of the first beast, 'whose fatal wound had been healed' is a reference to the return of Nero.

Although 666 is the number of a beast, there are clearly two beasts being spoken of here; one from the sea and one from the land. The beast from the sea is said to be a symbol of the Roman Empire, with its ten horns and seven heads representing the emperors and rulers of Rome:

•Tiberius (14-37 CE)
•Caligula (37-41 CE)
•Claudius (41-54CE)
•Nero (54-68 CE)
•Galba (68-69 CE)
•Otho (69-69 CE)
•Vitellius (69-69 CE)
•Vespasian (69-79 CE)
•Titus (79-81 CE)
•Domitian (81-96 CE)
(Dates are when they ruled Rome)

Now this list of ten men are not the only ones to have ruled Rome, but they were the ones under whom the idea of Emperor worship emerged and flourished in the 1st Century CE, and as such it is the beast from the land which represents this practice.

The original institution of Emperor worship was intended to honour the lives of dead leaders and their divine appointment, but in some cases certain rulers (such as Domitian) considered themselves to be the living presence of Divinity on earth.

http://www.thatreligiousstudieswebsite.com/Religious_Studies/Angels_and_Demons/666_origin_meaning.php

Nero's name adds up to 666 by their numerological system. These writings only related to that time period.



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I'm not sure that really ~adds~ to the discussion SS.

I'd be interested in hearing the thoughts of people who think the events foretold in Revelation have already happened. I've always been interested in their reasoning.

Revelations is a pretty rare example of a faith having a canonized "end game" for itself and the world. For me I find it comforting, knowing that no matter what happens the good guys will win in the end.

As for there being enough skeptics around if the actual Antichrist came around... see during this time the Holy Spirit would have left the world and the bulk of humanity would have lost the ability to think with their hearts and spirits. This would allow for a greater number of self-delusional people (deluding themselves to thinking this person is actually Christ). Then you have the whole "miracles" thing, the Antichrist preforming miracles, over coming death etc, that should please the skeptics. Plus by the time the events in Revelation start to happen the world will be so far gone and in dire need of salvation many will flock to him. Then of course once the Antichrist has taken control you'll either submit or perish.

The Bible states that once we know something (once we hear the Gospel, know about Revelation, know that not wearing a seatbelt isn't smart etc..) we are without excuse. In other words if you know something and go against it, whatever happens is your fault. So, for the majority of people the negative things that will happen to them are their own fault. The good news is that people can still make things right, so long as they refuse the mark etc.

One interesting thing is that although no one can know the hour (date) of the Tribulation and then Christs return we do have the power, through our actions, to postpone the events of Revelation for a time. God has given us 2,000+ years and an open play book, sounds pretty darn fair to me :)

I also find it very interesting that it doesn't seem to mention the US as a major player, or anything at all. To me this can only mean that either 1) the US will no longer exist at the time or 2) the US will be in such poor shape that whatever role it plays will be pretty inconsequential.



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ok guys just some input. the bible is contradiction to its self for good can't exist without evile for god made all thinbgs in pairs so to completly destroy evil would altamatly destroy the balnce and good whould no lomger exist either so take it in mabie the end of the world is just another shift in the ballance like the great flood for the world became so coorupt that god the balance had to shift the powrers and destropy most of the earth bring back good and evil to a managable level i think the bible talks about this again for the first time the city of lust was burned to the ground the second time the earth was purged by water and the third time i belive it will be purged by rain of fire litrally liquid metle from the sky now for what can happon the suns solore flairs aif big enough can send out flaming balls of iron red hot from the sun i can't find the site i read this on but it had something to do with the sun lol



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This could be an interesting discussion but keep insults and derogatory comments out of it.



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I have read Revelations many times, Its my favorite book along with Genesis.
I have a strange thought on this as we may have been created by Intelligent design, not meaning god, but an alien race.
Erik Von Daniken wrote a book titled Chariots of the Gods.
This book explains the many wonders of the world and explains them with great detail.
Although nothing ever gives you a soid answer but infact even more questions.
Von Daniken also shows the reader this is no contradiction to belief in Christ



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Interesting points altogether, Mr. Von Daniken (and other Authors with similar works), is a great observer and scholar of his field, He is in fact the ever- new direction of our own re-definement of our origins without the exclusion of a yet more higher being (God in universal connotations so to speak)- like genetic studies for example( is interesting to know that some of these scientist mostly the founders of new "breathtaking discoveries" believe in God and yet dismiss the literacy within the sacred book{ the whole 6,000 years of creation debate} to believe in the world so complex that there is no chance for coincidental creation but that of intelligent design). That is in fact interesting in exploring given that the broad picture of truth can only be seen with all the pieces of the puzzles, not a singular overview. Prophetic writings could in fact mix with other prophetic messages that are correlative, in other cultures around the globe and in fact five you a fair overview of other mysteries outside our reality.



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The Book of Revelations to me is a mystery. In ways it does make me wonder. The part when the angels hold 4 scrolls
One pours blood into the waters. I often wonder if that is water pollution.
Everyone can have a different thought on what they read in Revelations.



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.. a fairy story, written as axplanation for those who cannot comprehend the real;ities of Life..

.. that said, it is also too open to anyone's interpretation [I've read it! Unlike some..]



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I am glad someone else has read Erik Von Daniken. Much of the Book of Revelations as described by John The Baptist is how ancient man would have written the visions of the future. As someone else said its their interpretation of the modern world and such vehicles they come to appear to him. If you read Revelations then you must read the book of Enoch. Enoch was taken to live with god, or the Eloham, Eloham means "Those from the sky" And this is their interpretation.
Enoch also descibes the names of those with whom he learns from while being a pupil to the Eloham, and they teach him about the future.

In my opinion I believe that an alien visitors once was of great influence to ancient man, and where we learned about our origins. And I think its possible they will come back to earth and thats a whole new philosophy.



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I grew up on the teachings of Revelations.

And EVERYONE had a different aspect on interpretation.

I think it's all relative to those doing the reading.



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I believe that no one knows the exact meaning of revelations. I'd like to think it's like Left Behind, where almost everything isn't quite literal, but some things are, and most is metaphoric. I do not know, and I believe only God knows how it will be.



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If you take 5 sentences from the book of revelation and make 5 different person read it, all 5 will give you a different meaning of the message. My opinion about the book of revelation. This Book was not written to reveal the end, but to prepare you for something that may happen, with no specific time.



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I would have to agree with GreenWitchFantasy, that the interpetations all depends on the person reading it. I was raised on it and all in all the bible constantly contradicts itself if you read it well. so it could be interpeted in many different ways.



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I think this book as well as the rest of the bible were intended to pusuade and/or scare the masses into not doing bad stuff. Just my opinion.



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Well in Indian Epics too the words used those time matches similat to present advance of science yet more than that they have used even more afvanced and controled weapons. and they says the dark age started from nearly 5 thousand year ago and at the end of dark age there will be destruction again. but before that the war in cosmos will take place of goodside forces with evil forces... they clearly mentioned the evil will lead the dark age and will lead at start and later whole dark age will ruled by evil forcing good side forces open the fight as final conflict.

this means you will see more destructive weapon which you even not imagined but narrated in the epics such as flares of star etc becoming true within 15 to 200 years, but this is the begining...

I have read few epics its horrible if it all come true with the science...

it is said that one item brahmastra able to destroy whole universe and able to kill only single person or can make him unconscious for desired time.

the features of it is same as nuclear or thermo nuclear weapon.

One agneyastra is weapon of fire just like flares of sun but controlled. one of air which tale the weather destructive but accurate controlled and can reverse within moment.

Nagapasha which make person unconscious slept mind.

Their ability to penetrate they written these weapons can seek the target in whole universe and brahmastra is not reversible as final weapon of destruction.

and above all the fetures and capabilities fed in one more weapon which is resizable disc and it called sudarshana chakra. they generate their power or dynamic from the sphere or in the space and after causing destruction it go back to the owner who used these weapons coz they are reusable forever and only can be destroyed by the owner.



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I dont believe there will be an end at all. I think we may die out as a race, or nuke ourselves to death, but a D-Day? Not in my vision



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There are several official interpretations of this book, and I hold the 'Preterist view':

"Preterism holds that the contents of Revelation constitute a prophecy of events that were fulfilled in the first century. Preterist interpretations generally identify either Jerusalem or the Roman Empire as the persecutor of the Church, "Babylon", the "Mother of Harlots", etc. They see Armageddon as God's judgement on the Jews, carried out by the Roman army, which is identified as "the beast". It sees Revelation being fulfilled in 70, thereby bringing the full presence of God to dwell with all humanity. Some preterists see the second half of Revelation as changing focus to Rome, its persecution of Christians, and the fall of the Roman Empire. It also holds that the Emperor Nero was possibly the number of the beast mentioned in the book as his name equals 666 in Hebrew, if using the Greek spelling of Nero's name (Neron Caesar), but using the Hebrew symbols with their assigned numeric values (an ancient method known as gematria). However, a few ancient manuscripts of the Revelation say the number is 616, fifty less than the more well known numeral. A possible method to this problem lies in early translation. In the assumption that the Revelation was meant to be distributed among the Early Christians, it could very well be assumed that occasionally someone may have used the Latin spelling of Nero's name (Nero Caesar), so the total value of the gematria would be 616."
-Wikipedia


That's pretty much the description of that interpretation, but I am definitely not an Anti-Semite. I don't believe the 'Jews' killed Jesus, I think it was a lot of people who were responsible, but all fullfilling a prophecy and necessary for it to come to pass.

That's my personal belief anyway. I'm not into the fear of the end of the world or any kind of 'Rapture'. I kinda run for the hills to get away from those views. I believe Revelations is all about the fall of the Roman Empire which is long done. Nothing more. Again, that's me (and millions of others). Feel free to have your own feeling on it ;)


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Just like death after the birth, the end is hypothecated after the begining. may it be species, may it be earth or may it be universe...

see once the volcanos saved earth from becoming space snowball of sun...

many a time human kind saved from the end of human species during coldwar for missiles just waited for final human decision though they were automatic....

but this will not happen always. one very small cosmic accident can turn earth to collide with any other planet or ma yit change its orbit to very far to lead total change of speed of turn. if it changes the orbit the change of its turning speed on its axis will lead the whole top and surface of the earth collapsed and makingone more moon around it. going away from sun the weather will vhange very fastly and chemical balance and equation of the earth's environment will change very speedily.

sun presently throwing the flares only, may it become instable and throwing anything else in future or explode these are very minor or little unregisterable accidents of the cosmos at universe level...



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I am int the camp of Joe Atwill..

I think if you read his book, you will see where Revelations came from.

and who it was written about...



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I believe that the bible will unlock it's secrets very soon as we reach levels of technology that help explain certain miracles. I believe through time travel and nanotechnology many prophecies in the bible seem less Davine.

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Wow, reading those last two posts were wicked......especially since they came from the A-C himself lol.......

The thing about the bible is that all through its pages, on multiple occassions (somehow) it contradicts itself. So for me, Revelations could be true and then again.......



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I have a theory that ties into the book of Revelations. It's called, "the Uniplanetary Evolution Theory" and it explains how the planets in the solar system are all Earth evolving in time. Venus is Earth in the past and Mars is Earth in the future, after it gets destroyed.

Here is one example:

REVELATION CHAPTER 21

1 ¶ And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Venus being the new Earth and Mars being the passed away Earth with no more sea.



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The Book of Revelation reveals more about mankind's morbid fascination with death and destruction than the actual end of days.
For me personally the only thing that is fascinating about the Book of Revelation is that after 20 centuries people still seem to think that they will see it's unfolding in their life time.

Good luck with that.


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Well, it's normally the last book in the Bible. But, truely it could actually placed at the begining of the New Testament part of the Bible.

Prophetic, symbolic or, just one person's opinion of "things to come"... some "events" may by this date have occured... and just like the Predictions of Nostradamus are (and will be) subject to interpretation and reinterpretation...

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yes, it is definitely interpreted differently as everyone knows, but how many actually do not believe in the revelation at all, or perhaps don't even believe in the Bible at all. Or is there anyone who does not believe in the Bible, but does believe in Revelations?



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I believe revelation is about the fall of jerusalem and the Jewish temple. its a history book..nothing more. the symbols could be understood by the church. but not the romans who put the guy who wrote it in exile on the isle of patmos. people always talk about the anti christ. you cant even find that word in the book of revelation. nor the seven year tribulation. I couldn't find it! i believe it was relevant in that day and age in which it was written and not a crystal ball. I am a Christian but I think taking this book literally is dangerous and misleads many into thinking we are exempt from future disasters. in some manuscripts the number of the beast is 616. either way they are talking about Nero Caesar. 616 is his number in Latin and 666 is his number in Greek. the book is about the romans persecuting christians and jews. end of story and don't drink the punch!



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I am "Interested" in The Book of Revelations, about the part where it says about the "Living Seal". What I only here on the Internet chatrooms and other different websites, is the "Anti-Christ" and other stuff... But why people does not talk about the Living Seal?



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..the fellow who said taking it all so literally was oh-so spot on!! I commend him, for saying it.



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The book can be interpeted too many different ways.
Like a seven headed serpent adorning seven crowns, could mean seven heads of states or even countries in battle between good and evil.
Is interesting read, but leaves the imagination too open in views, interpretations and opinions.



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i have to agree with OB Joe Atwill makes some very valid points and backs it up. Caesar's messiah is an awesome read and will definately make you think . will probably put to rest some peoples questions



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if you read about the 7 headed beast, there are alot of historians that think they mean the city on 7 hills...rome. the great beast was nero, etc.

didnt the bible also say that the 2nd coming would be within the lifetimes of those that were writing the new testiment?
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yes i believe so if i remember correctly has been a long time since i have read it



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I don't want to offend anyone here but this is considered a religious writing so it is hard to state an opinion without someone getting a tad uncomfortable.

The thing about The Book of Revelation that sticks out to me is that it is a religious apocraphal book, yet everyone discusses it all the time like it represents everyone's beliefs in the world. If the early churches didn't canonize it, then why did the Protestants put it into their version of the Bible that way? It originally was back in the back of it. Which would mean it should be between the Old and New at this time I have to agree. I personally think they didn't know where to put it because it is controversial.

It is a beautiful writing in the King James version of the Bible but if one doesn't believe in this type of faith then it is nothing more than a well written piece of fiction. Who knows what they were talking about because people back then were persecuted and wrote in metaphor and secret codes to keep from either being locked up or killed by the Romans. I have read in other places that part of it comes out of Mithraism and some is word for word from those writings which predate it. I think it was a separate writing and wasn't suppose to be placed in the Bible really. Still it got there and it's meaning is obscure because there are many viewpoints as to what it all means, including those taught in seminaries from the viewpoint of their religious leanings.

I find it interesting all the movies and novels that have stemmed from ideas in the book. Some quite entertaining. Time will tell whether anything literal comes to pass stated in the book as preached in this day and age. The problem lies in the fact that it is so vague it can be interpreted to mean many things and has been interpreted that way. I don't think anything can be done if it were true because it is written in a fatalistic manner.



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i do agree that since it of a religious nature, one should walk softly here.
my understanding is that when the council of nicea was putting the bible together in 323 ad, revelations almost didnt make the cut. i have noticed that it seems to be interpreted differently for each person reading it.
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In my humble opinion, considering the original Inspirator of these written works, it is a powerful book, that we shouldn't take lightly, The forces between Light and Dark, are in a constant struggle. Since each of us have a free will choice about what to believe, I feel as if if it part prophecy, but you have to take into account not only revelation but the New testament as a whole.



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Here is AC's video..



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My opinion, as well as others i know, feel that the revelations are something that has already occurred in the past and is referring to all the chaotic moments during the times of christ before and afterwards. The bible itself from the stories, the scriptures are written in a doom and gloom manner anyway.



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As it has been said before, the book of Revelations
has been put through multiple interpratations.

So many different sources that have put a different spin on the subject that it almost has its own gravatational field.

In the end Revelations should be taken with a grain of slat, a slice of lime and a shot of tequila.



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Revelations along with the rest of the Bible has been translated so many times its hard to know the true meanings behind it.

I think that there are a lot of things to come that we are unaware of. We think we have an idea of the possibilities but because the Bible in itself is a contradiction that it will always keep us guessing. To me all of this has happened before (technology, finding cures to diseases, new diseases and pandemics popping up etc..) we are just new players in a game called life. Just like in Ecclesiastes 1:9 "the thing that hath been, it is that which shall be: and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun."



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Fascinating, slowly but surely we draw closer and closer to the truth through science and reason.

My own view is we as a species maybe missing the point. Why would our inferior ancestors be given such clues to a final "revelation" or Apocalypse...literally translated " The revealing of the truth"

It is a warning. Was it the only warning given? I think not....2012 looms large in all our subconcious minds thanks to some rather convenient moutain chisel marks.

Many religions have such warnings, many lost, some burried by corruption and power but a few survived.

As conventional energy and the financial system grinds to a halt we all have a choices. Perhaps this is the ultimate test~

Perhaps to treasure your kith and kin or die like every other inferior species?

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I,m in the death camp..I don't like most of them...sorry its just how I feel.
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revelataions is about one thing not the end of the world its about the fall of the church thats all !!!!!!!!!



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Being raised Roman Catholic, I stayed away from the Revelations as a kid (I don't even think that book is read from during masses). But from the research I've done on the Book and talking to people who've read it, just like anything else in the Bible - this is just my opinion - the Revelations are lessons or even guidelines of how to live your life and what deciphers that which is good or evil.

When my dad was dying of brain cancer in 2005-'06 he read the Revelations and another member of our now former church told him he should not be reading that, that he should read the Gospels for hope and inspiration. I think my dad read the Revelations because he knew his death was imminent and was very realistic about it.

Again this is just my experience with it from people who've paid attention to the Book. Although I'm not going to lie, now that I consider myself to be an outsider from the religion I grew up on I'd like to read the Book to try and understand why many Catholics fear it so much.



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based on what research that ive read, (and issac asimovs guide to the bible) it would seem that the book of revelation is actually referring to the fall of the roman empire (apparently predicted to fall but only about 400 years off of the time).
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I believe the book of revelations are referring to a past occurance during those times, around in that area basically, of the chaotic mess that it was. People have been preaching the end times for sooo long and really, it's over-played, esp in the bible belt that focuses so much on these things just to keep people "in line". Enoughs enough already. Oh same with expecting something to happen and that we should "prepare".



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This post may be long but if you would like to know the full meaning of revelation as studied by me with the instruction of a number of Bible Scholars and a Bible Mathmetician (get to the math part at the end) I encourage reading it to get the full knowledge of the book along with some insight as to around to the times you can look forward to this happening. If you are familiar with the bible code and the Pyramid Giza it might help you understand the math part a little bit better. Let me note that I am on the stand point of "I will believe it when I see it" and simply take an interest in Bible history. Okay here it goes:

Every beginning has an end, and different people believe different things. Whether we chose to believe it is our choice as humans. Revelation in a nut shell is about Johns visions of end time events shown to him by God/ Jesus (same being in essence; In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1. Jesus= voice of God.) According to Revelation there are several steps to the process of the destruction of the world.

The first will be the peace treaty to end the fighting between the Muslims and Jews and the Temple being rebuilt. This kick starts to final 7 years left. This is separated into 2 parts both 3 1/2 years long. The first half being the Anti-Christs rise to power in government eventually leading to him being the "President of the World" if you will. The second half being the seals being opened, bowls of wrath being poured out, and eventual return of Jesus close to the end. You can read the in between parts and details for yourself its too long to go into detail. Eventually what happens, according to the writings, is Gabriel and his angels defeat Satan and he is cast out to Earth, where he takes out his anger by destroying most of it. Note that unlike Father, Son, and Holy spirit, Satan and the Anti-Christ are two separate beings. The Anti-Christ is essentially a companion of Satan working together with him. Most people don't read into things this deep, but Satan being cast out does mean that he still has access to heaven and God. It talks about Satan casting accusations about the Humans to God and trying to get him to turn against them.

Satan is defeated and cast out he is no longer allowed into heaven therefore hes pissed that he cant plead his case and turns to destruction of the humans and the Earth. This is the part where basically 75% of the population gets toasted, no pun intended. Eventually Jesus comes back and imprisons Satan and his angels in Hell for 1000 years while Jesus rules the Earth while still on Earth. After that he will be released "a little season" Revelation 20:3. After he is released there is a final battle between Jesus and his angels and Satan and his. Satan is defeated and Him, the Anti-Christ, and their followers are cast into Hell where they, "will be tormented day and night forever and ever." New Jerusalem is created where Jesus and all "saved" live forever. Took a while but that is revelation in a few paragraph nut shell. Okay now for the mathematics and Bible code part of it.

If you know a little about the Bible code you know that basically what they have found in the original texts is a code that has shown times, dates and numbers of fatalities of the most major tragic events in human history, other than when the end would be which is what I will get to in a moment. If you don't know anything about the bible code rent the movie "Knowing" with Nicholas Cage. The writers did a spin off of what the bible code is and turned it into a movie involving aliens and stuff. Essentially the movie is about the bible code. Different instances in the Bible say that no one can know but God the exact dates of the ending, but it doesn't say anything about us getting a close idea. This is where the math comes in.

If you know about the Pyramid Giza you know that it is different than all of the other pyramids. It was also the first built. If you look at the different chambers and the air tunnels in diagrams you can see that the angles of them are actually not coincidentally placed. I'll post a small passage from a website explaining the significance of Jesus to this Pyramid and post the website for your further investigation.

"Coincidentally, the horizontal base of the triangle in the Pyramid is 30,043 inches, or 3,469 inches short of the crucifixion, which corresponds to the date of October 14, 29 A.D., the date of Christ's baptism."

http://www.europa.com/~edge/giza.html

Basically it explains the significance all of the angles of the pyramid from air passage angles to base angles etc. Now i am about to get to the part that might cause some... erm... discussion to put it lightly but just bear in mind this is all beliefs added together with some factual mathamatic equations... Once again I will say that I am still on the stand point of "I'll believe it when I start seeing it unfold" so take nothing personal from it.

Okay... basically there is an alignment of certain planets and constillations that will align with the different angles of this pyramid and when this happens, basically what my "Bible Mathmatician" source believes is this will happen when Jesus returns. What he has shown me (remember the Bible code part) is that according to astronomy and his mathamatical equations based on the pyramid this will happen about 87 months from now or 7 years and 3 months. This would make the peace treaty to be signed sometime in November of this year. Plans are already in place to rebuild the Temple and there is already talk of a peace treaty being signed.

One final time I will say that these are beliefs and equations take nothing personally this is just my explanation of the chapter and what I have been shown by scholars of what they believe to be approximate times of this occuring. I hope this helped anyone who was interested in the explanation of the chapter and such. I will post this on my journal for any future reference. Thanks for reading



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