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The Banner ad often appearing on VR pages says directly below it "Real Vampires" there is a page devoted to "what is a vampire?" but doesn't really cover this exact subject. So I ask, and with out any arguing please, What to you is a Real Vampire, and why? Posting resources is fine, but not necessary. It would be nice to fill at least one thread with individual points of view on this subject from various VR members. :-)

In my opinion, a real vampire is someone who feeds off the energy or blood of others due to an instinctive craving or need, not because they just like it, but because if they don't there is a definate difference in how they feel, act, and other general health signs.

In my opinion, I think a REAL vampire is whatever the believer, life styler, follower, or non believer wants it to be. Meaning, if you are a believer that it is fantasy you have in your head a fictional image of what they appear like and do. etc. At least on some level I think of it that way.

Now in my mind what do I think when I hear the term vampire? I think, an immortal in a mortal body, that has lived many lives and doesn't leave earth but changes bodies. I believe they do feed off of both blood and energy to survive. Does this make me right, no. Does it make me wrong, no. Its just what I see in my head when I hear the term. Sometimes an imagination and the will to believe in something can be a wonderful thing. :)

Thanks Cursed.. thanks for the summary.. that is the best way to place things on a level.

I personally find Upirs research to have the most substance.

A Vampire is a person who does not get enough energy through a "regular" process as a "normal" person would as in a meal.

I'm with Dabbler about Upir's profile being the most enlightening pertaining to how "vampires" came to be, and the meaning behind them historically speaking.
I usually do not take those saying they are vampiric too seriously on here compared to those that say they are either Sang or Psi feeders etc. 'Vampire' just doesn't seem appropriate because it comes off rather fictional or flashy for someone that takes what they do seriously or their condition at least.

I must chime in and add another vote for Upir's research.For me,his work has put the vampire into a perspectiv e I can accept on all levels.

I am as well in agreeance in ~Upir's~ Profiel for information pertaining to "real vampires."

Most of the vampire subculture is still thinking inside the box as far as what they have learned throughout their lives that stereotype the vampire and what they have learned from books and other facts regarding "human living vampire" and its state of being throughout society as well.

Mix two and two together and you get one confused individual who has still yet to understand why they claim to be "real vampires" because neither the books, nor the teachers have a true answer even though they literally wrote the book(s), and or claim to be elders of the vampire community itself, which in my perspective is quite hilarious.

"In summary vampire in its earlier form - oupire - derives ultimately from the Galatian Uber, which itself is derived from the Aryan Upari and linguistically and contextually the Vampire - the witch or druid - was a Scythian High Queen or King: an Overlord.

It is interesting to note in this context that when he compiled his journals in the 17th century Calmet, who had traveled extensively throughout the Austrian empire as an official vampire investigator accompanying imperial officers and soldiers, wrote that he had found no evidence whatsoever to support any notion that vampirism was either a supernatural phenomenon committed by praeter-natural beings - which he utterly refutes - or that it ever occurred in any form, either as a cult or in any isolated incidents, amongst the lower strata of society.

Without exception the enlightened Abbé was able to discover perfectly ordinary explanations for the incidents he had investigated, which in his day was quite remarkable, as the Church in past times had actively promoted vampire paranoia.

As Professor Margaret Murray discovered herself, vampirism was not the prerogative of the merchant or peasant classes, but was a cultic observance confined to the environs of the nobility, often as an adjunct to rites of the Noble and Royal Witch Covens of Scotland.

We can say with confidence then that real vampirism was indulged in by living beings who, unerringly, were members of the pre-christian and anti-christian high nobility and royalty. The most famous vampire stories, those of Dracula, Bathory and de Rais, support this conclusion. The historical evidence therefore supports the etymological origin of the word ’vampire’ - An Overlord."

From the following link:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/dragons/esp_sociopol_dragoncourt02_01.htm

It is my opinion that a real vampire is born from the bloodline of the ’Watchers’ (Seers - Derkesthai: Dragons) who had occupied a settlement near "lake Van", in Urartu - Armenia. As stated in the article, "The daemon or genius of the Dragons was inherited through the blood. Witches are born, not made by silly playacting initiation rituals."

Thus, Vampyres are Witches that practice ceremonial magic that are born from the bloodline of the Derkesthai.

Not much information regarding the suggested individual that was supposedly Bram Stokers idea rough draft story protagonist save for this tidbit here:

"Eleanore von Schwartzenburg lived on the Czech/Austrian border

in the mid 17th Century. She was a great believer in Folk remedies.

She even kept she wolves for their milk (Drinking it was supposed

to promote the possibility of male off-spring). The sound of wolves

howling from her Castle led to local speculation as to what she was up to!

There were rumours that she was a vampire, and when she died, was

buried under heavy stones - a mid European tradition at the time

for suspected vampires!

Bram Stoker almost certainly heard the stories about her, and she is

now thought to have had an large influence on the "Dracula" story.

(Incidentally, I believe the original draft of Dracula had a female

vampire in it, who was written out on the advice of the publisher.)"

Of which may be found: here

Now we are launching into something!

This is what I have been waiting for.

vampirechurch.com


The truth is no one is a "REAL" vampire. No one only lives on human blood. No one is 400 years old. No one will explode or burn to a crisp in sunlight. No one was born with "vampire fangs". What is true is that there are people affected with vampirism.



Vampirism is a very real human energy condition where the body of the affected person does not naturally make enough living energy or "chi" for the person to function in a healthy, energetic way. As a result of lower energy, the affected person is constantly fatigued, has a lower functioning immune system, may constantly have a low grade headache and be extremely affected other energy systems they encounter. Vampirism is a condition with which the person is born. It is not a disease and cannot be caught or spread by any means. No one can be "made" a vampire. Real vampirism is not a religion.



Humans naturally have energy fields or auras. We constantly exchange and interact with the energy fields of those around us. While everyone is capable and able to give, take and receive energy not everyone has opened themselves to that understanding or uses their natural abilities. Human energy fields are affected in an almost infinite number of ways. A person can be happy, sleepy, depressed, angry, in love, dying, frustrated, ill, bored, etc., etc. In most cases, a person can give or take energy to change or affect the way that their own personal energy is currently shifted. For instance: Having trouble focusing at work because you are just so giddy about your new love? Try taking some energy from someone that is a bit depressed or feeling bored. Your focus will improve in moments. Have a nasty cold that you just cannot seem to shake? Get out into nature. Take some of the healing energy of the sun and some green plant energy. Feeling depressed? Go somewhere fun and sample the enlightened crowd energy. Understand that taking or giving energy is natural and human. Using human energy is not something unique to those affected with vampirism.



So what makes a vampire a vampire? It is the lack of energy, not the ability to take. receive, or give energy. Persons affected with vampirism need additional living energy to function well and live a more healthy lifestyle. Going through life constantly fatigued is plainly just not fun. For someone affected with vampirism adding that daily energy boost is like having a cup of coffee. It helps energize them and helps them focus.



So where do people affected with vampirism get the additional needed living energies? Almost everywhere. While human to human energy is the best, living bio energy can be found naturally in the world around us. Running water, living plants and trees, the warmth of the sun, the ocean waves, a pleasant breeze, a thunderstorm and much more. The world is filled with endless ways in which it is filled with living energy.



The next time someone tells you that you are not a "real vampire" just kind of nod and agree and complement them on their new "Twilight" t-shirt. Then figure you are lucky, because you probably do not want to be that kind of "vampire".

Do you always believe everything you read, just because it came from a "reputed" vampire site? Come now, child.

vampirechurch.com




What is vampirism?

Vampirism is a life path characterized by unique abilities and needs for psychic and pranic energy resources most others have. One is born into this life path with their vampirism and normally will "awaken" or become aware of it sometime early as an adult. Noone cangive you your vampirism through one's blood or some other means, but you can be helped to undertand your own path. The need is real to fullfill a psionic energy void thru the ability to use the energy of pranic sources such as that in blood and sex, psychic sources shuch as that in the emotions of others, and earth sources such as the energy found in weather events such as storms. Vampirism differs in that the vampire seeks out these energy sources as needs to their own health.

What are some misconceptions of vampirism?

The film industry and the media have been largely responsible for these. Many of us have seen how vampires are portrayed as "immortals" and unable to be in sunlight or harmed by garlic and certain metals and even a cross. All this is certainly untrue. One of the biggest misconceptions is vampires "making", or "turning" or "embracing" another into vampirism with a blood bite or the blood of another. Vampirism is with a person at birth and so will manifest itself in that person's life.

What is psychic vampirism?

Psychic vampirism refers to one of the energy source needs of the true vampire. It is characterized by the ability to "absorb" energy for personal benefit from the mental and emotional energies of others. It also includes the ability to benefit from the energy of other sources in the environment such as animals, (notably house pets such as cats), weather events such as storms, and even the changes in the earth and moon. This is the most common form of vampirism and exists in some form in most true vampires.

What is pranic vampirism?

Pranic vampirism also refers to another one of the energy source needs of the true vampire. Here the sources primarily involve the dense energy sources found in blood and the energy in sexual contact. These energy sources are the most quickly satisfying and require less by amount than any psychic source. That is, a vampire's energy needs are more quickly met because of the density of the direct contact of this energy source. Many vampires combine an ability for both pranic and psychic sources, and this enables most to assure an available source if one is absent.

What are some safe blood feeding techniques?

I recommend the use of a sterile lancet device or some other stainless steel device with perhaps peroxide for sterialization and then make small incisions somewhere on the body. Good places I recommend include the thighs, arms and neck. This is one way to approach safe blood play. Amounts vary with each person. For most it does not take much, it just depends on how strong the bloodlust is running. Some need just a few drops every few days to a week while others need more of it and more often. Blood is a natural emetic and too much of it will cause one to be sick to vomit. It is important to remember here to be confident of your donor's health. With the threat of deadly blood deseases shuch as AIDS, this is crirtical. Also, be aware of any mouth infections in direct contact with the blood at the wound. Some take the blood in small cups and mix with a red wine. Health and safety are the important issues here.

What are some health problems associated with vampirism?

Because vampirism is based on needed energy sources, true vampires can suffer without them. Symptoms and problems vary but there are some common problems shared by many. Headaches (migranes) and general tiredness and irritability are common. Other experiences can also include depression and inability to sleep or irregular sleep patterins. Many also become more sensitive to sunlight and temperature changes, and some may experience blood sugar fluctuations. Many vampires are naturally ultra emotional, and so are naturally affected when there is little of the emotional energy available and so emotional health is sometimes affected. It is important to note, that vampirism is directly tied with the health of a person and so makes up an important element of that person's well being.

What is sheilding?

Sheilding for the vampire refers to the blocking of unwanted energy for the vampire. This is an important element in a vampire's health. As energy feeders, vampires are greatly affected by other people's energy and some of this energy can be detrimental. This is especially true with psychic vampirism where many kinds of energy are "absorbed". There then is "bad" forms of energy such as what may be found in the emotions of others and the mental probes of other vampires. Learning sheilding techniques is then paramount to any psychic vampire's health. There have been many methods introduced to help with sheilding development. It is generally recognized that use of your imagination combined with focusing skills can help here. Some vampires have had success with using light sources such as candles or focusing on one specific object in the room with you and "blocking" out other distractions around you. These are just suggested behavorial learning techniques and what may work for one may not for another. Generally, these approaches are a foundation to developing your own sheilding abilities.

What do vampires face in society?

The most important problem vampires have is acceptance and undertsanding. Remember, that misconceptions abound with the public's perception of vampires. Vampires are rediculed as not being believeable and so many are denied the recognition and understanding important for any person. Then many have to deal with the misconceived notions and ideas of want vampirism is not. Combine that with personal relationships and family rejection, and you have an uphill fight for the vampire. Many stay in the "closet" for fear of these and other problems. Of major concern is the hate and threats that come from a too closed ultra right religious society. Vampires are too often attacked in public and misunderstood in family and personal relationships. It has become a life long pursuit of some to help dispel these public and personal attitudes.

Are there resources for the vampire?

With the computer now becoming more popular with many, there now are many online organizations on the internet that help by offering information and promoting social and emotional interraction with other vampires. Where one may be isolated in a small town, one can meet other vampires by way of this online conncetion. Such groups as the Vampire Church and the Vampyre Research Society have offered the real vampire online resources on information as well as a connection to other real vampires. However, there is also an abundance of misinformation about the vampire that can be seen in role play gaming sites and chats. While these are good recreational rsources for the true vampire, it must be understood that role play is generally make believe for the entertainment of many.

im just posting things of things of what ppl do and say that relate to the topic

Those posts are based on opinion and the perspectives of a few that got together for the intention of going mainstream with their idea(s), nothing more... Nothing less.

Don't believe the hype. That website distinguishes the characteristics of the "psi" vampire and seems to claim that "psi" feeding is the only plausable way to go.

And I am just stating the obvious, since the mainstream vampire crowd most always turns in that direction for "conclusive" information based on their belief systems. Note that I wrote "systems" which is a metaphor for manipulation and brain washing. The government is not the only one capable of this type of procedure.

that is true . thats why i dont have respect for the government cause they love brainwashing ppl . i doesnt mean i dont believe in vampires or anything cuase its also wierd that the government wont even tell us whats in Area 51 imao i wonder what there hiding in there .

So its hard to believe something till youve actually seen it.

Just because I brought up the government, does not mean that this threads topic has to change.

My point was, just because someone says something that seems to be true, does not mean that it is.

As well, you state that you do not believe in vampires, and yet you brought forth information from a "reputed" source that follows along the path of the mainstream conventional vamp"y"re image.

In this perspective, it seems as though you may be following along the path and trying to further the manipulation from the "vampyre" sources in instilling plausable falsehoods on those of whom would fall privvy to such thoughts and ideas.

To me, this seems as though it is ... Contradictive.

Though I personally appreciate someone being forward with sources, regardless of the credibility of those sources.

I have to agree Dab.At least Webeneath brought something to the table that puts it into perspective,even if that perspective is percieved and written by a certain few.I have yet to see,myself included, anyone else bring anything worthwhile to the table,besides Upir,as to what a Vampire is.

I do not see the problem?

If you cannot objectively evidence your abilities or physical traits the chances are you are a nutter.

Evidence you are different is everything.

Sorry to say, I just don't go by websites for any be all end all puffy literature when looking for validated "evidence" of any type of real vampire.

Obviously, since a very few select group of individuals did come forth with stated documentation, basically tells me that the only real vampire is in the minds eye.

But those that have certain attributes, that relate to what they have been taught througout life describing traits of the real vampire, cannot help but to distinguish themselves as such because of this. Thus, by calling themselves some other name brought to the table, would not justify why they have these traits or an understanding for them.

I think the real purpose would be to understand something before claiming to be that something.

Truer couldnt be said SS.
All in the minds eye.
That is why there are so many debates and so much scoffing at one another.
There simply isnt anything solid.

Before joining this site I thought a real vampire was a person who chose to drink blood similar to the characters in fictional vampire stories, but lacking all supernatural powers such fictional characters usually have. Lacking a better word to use five years later I still call them vampire.

Which is my point in a nutshell, ~Danzig~.

Last time I looked I am solid, perhaps I just have a blood disorder or a bone/blood disorder.

Probably, science just isn,t ready yet...sighs...hey ho!

Merry Xmas.

At least I can get registered disabled.

~Laughs.

Point is, ~Fallingstar~... Since you have no medical documentation to back your claim, society may not believe you.

I am still waiting for those actually.You said you would get them to me FS.
It would be a good thing if it could be proven or if evidence were presented.
Only one who has presented any,is..again,Upir.

It's amazing to see how there's so much controversy for people to explain their version of what a vampire is. In the years i've been part of this site, there never seems to be a full on agreement.

Basically what i feel is that, there are others on this site that can only believe what they want to, those that are trying to get a better understanding, and those that are adding sheer udder nonsense and so it becomes a huge confusing mess.

I understand there are people here with certain "conditions" that claim to be vampiric, however if this information came from a vampiric website, or someone that simply said "oh you must be a vampire" because the "symptoms" are so similar.......Try getting a doctor's perspective and let science do it's job before we go accepting what other's say considering these people are more than likely NOT DOCTORS.

From what i see, a lot of what is being said from most vampiric websites is "borrowed" information. Meaning that about every so called "real vampire" site, is going to say the same thing. Just like those here. Same as if you choose to attend a church, it's no different from another church, you're still getting the same information.

You have to seek outside the box, even the vampiric ones to find your answers. Otherwise, you are going to keep getting the same repetitive "borrowed" information that is the most acceptable by a group of people. That doesn't mean it's false information....but not ALL answers are found within the same branch because each experience for others isn't going to be the same.

Your best bet, is by finding the root to what you wanna know. Just like Upir has. I know many people here have a lot of respect for the man because he's actually taken the time to research. You have to dig deep to find how things came to be.

I really do not know how people came up with their lack of energy as a sign of being vampiric. That one just blows my mind. That answer to me is unacceptable.

I've heard a lot of hoopla online during the years by others with it comes to those that call themselves vampire and lycan too! But should i believe everything I'm told.

No.

The blind always leads the blind. The only one's that can really see....are the one's that go their own path and seek the truth for themselves and is open to accepting information given by MANY sources.

I actually have heard of the term vampirism before used in a medical sense when I was younger. It was used where the term vampire could not be in scientific environments sense it describes a condition instead of stating someone is a vampire. The term was used to describe anyone who had a physical or psychological need to feed on the blood of others.

Do we call leeches and mosquitos vampiric too? Not from where i'm from but it might be ok to use it for insects, oh and vampire bats. Then again most animals that hunt don't have a frying pan and eat things AS IS.

Most humans need blood where it is lacked such as car accidents, transfusions etc. Well if you aren't spilling massive amounts of it, and you still have some in your body keeping you alive, then what's the real reason for wanting more of it?

The blood has to serve a true purpose to have it, and we ALL have it. So why the need to have more? Sure blood is the life-force, it keeps us all alive. Do you really believe that if you didn't digest more of it, you wouldn't still be living? Come on!

Same thing with the Psi's. It's all mental.

I think there is a difference in being a vampire and having vampiric tendency.

the vampire term has been taken way out of context Than what the actually definition is.

Its a being of folklore, and fantasy...not reality
I guess some cant tell the difference between fantasy and reality...

A real vampire is that of ancient times

Psi, I merely stated how the term vampirism was used in the medical world when I was younger. with the people with it referred too as vampirists. And you know, I've yet to see one person here who claims to be a vampire say they need it to live. I've only seen people saying what you've just said that "Do you really think if you didn't digest it you wouldn't still be living?" How it is for me, and others I've talked to on here, is that the feeding helps us feel how most people do normally, healthy and full of energy. Without it I feel week, starved, and fatigued. Never said It was needed to live, just to live healthy.

Well in my opinion there will not ever be any agreement as to what the *term of Real Vampire* is since there are no *real Vampires* in the world as to have been alive for centuries, Feeding on *Blood only* or anyhting else that what most would consider the *real Vampire*

Now grant it there are many who actually or try to live the lifestyle as a *real Vampire* these are the ones who have donors or belong to associations etc.

Yet, to break the Bubble so to speak, I do not feel that there are any *Real Vampires8 in our mist, but, hey who am I yet a mere human who just observes and listens to debates. LOL

Many do have and live with the tendencies of a Vampire. I mean I know people personally who share blood and have a society that they belong to, and that is fine with me more power to them. AS in my other profile MasqueradeDoll, I speak of many diferent lifestyles, and to me the Vampire* is one of them.

YET, I feel you should read *Upirs* statements of the *real Vampire* he makes good points and very interesting as well.

Im with you BFH about Upir's work being good.In my opinion,so far he comes about as close as it gets in explaining what a true Vampire might be.And he has done all the homework and presents damn solid evidence.

How ancient are we talking about Raziel? Where in ancient times does it describe a "real vampire"? Just curious....

Ancient times, I think Raz refers to Lore, and Superstitions previously accepted as fact.

I think it depends on what your thoughts are. Some ppl think that just because they drink blood means they are a vampire. I dont believe that this is the case.

A vampire needs blood to survive. Take a look at the real vampire bats, they drink blood to survive, they are nocturnal yet they dont drain blood from their source.

This is taken from the original post.

So I ask, and with out any arguing please, What to you is a Real Vampire, and why? Posting resources is fine, but not necessary. It would be nice to fill at least one thread with individual points of view on this subject from various VR members. :-)

This thread has strayed off topic MANY times, and we need to get back to what it is really about. This is not a thread to debate what a real vampire is, it is just to hear what everyone's idea of a real vampire is in their own mind. Can we please get back with that and not bicker on about who is right and who is wrong? We have threads like that already and I do believe that what vXVAMPRE is attempting to accomplish here is just a simple thread of peoples ideas on said topic. I personally was enjoying just listening to everyone's thoughts whether I agreed or disagreed with them.

Thanks everyone for the cooperation. I really would like to see this thread stay open and if the topic continues to become something other than what was originally meant to be it will be closed.

Is it possible to please get a response from some of you that have simply posted, I believe in "this" source, to express in writing a summary of what exactly it is you believe based on your study of that source? I didn't really make it clear in my topic post that I would prefer copy and pasted material to be omitted and rather just hear your views directly. I am not complaining about post like i mentioned above I would just like to hear more, for example, about the personal views of Upir's profile.

Well I studied a real souce last night~coughs...err yep!

When one Vamps out one notes the change in eye colour in her case to glowing blue...neon.

Bet you've never seen that? It's a very privte thing but true.

A real Vampire, is the one, who will never tell anyone about what is going on within his or her clan, especially in this Site.

And with that - What isn't a real vampire? If we strip away all that is 'fake', will the 'real' vampire be what is left?

What is not is the stereotype created by the gurus of Hollywood, to explode in the name of money. Vampires are NOT the same as the one portrayed in those movies. From the news movies to the old one, all were created equal, with one thing in common: $$.

What are they then?

so a vampire is a person that repeats, "Hollywood Vampires are not real." over, and over.. as well as " Vampires are Secret keepers." over, and over?

Well in my book a vampire is someone or something that drains blood or energy from another to survive. There are many creatures on this planet that fall under this umbrella. Not necessarily humans.

The thing that irritates me the most is when someone says that either they are not human, or use a reference such as they are differant from humans.

In reality, we are all human. Some of us are simply more sensitive to all things more then others and are intune with our surroundings and are aware of things outside this dimension.

This does not make us above human, it just tells others that we are complex and differant then the average individual. Though not nessessarily creating a vampiric metaphor, it is just the easiest way to describe the abnormality.

Markus, greetings "if you say you are a vamp you're not"

? ...Ok I agree most say nothing or act dumb.

but the question is specific and wants to know so with your logic we cannot win?

Anyway every now and again you get an areshole like me who tells it how it is because I am not afraid of slayers...shit they'd be doing me a favour ~Laughs.

There again I might just be a really good role player, hey lets face it thats so much easier.

Well, since there are no such things as "slayers" then I would call your bluff. Three of a kind, beats two pair.

Or you might just be giving the audience what they want to hear thus proving your point.

I use the term "slayer" lightly, by that I just mean a person with strong beliefs.
Who thinks they have the God given right to take anothers life because they are different and have sociably unacceptable "skills".

By using the term "slayer" as if they exist, just seems to me as if someone out of a select few is taking things to far and very literally, thinking that someone is or may be after them.

There is no real reason why anyone would want or have to live in fear of others. I mean, if there were "slayers" out there, then I think you would be running from them if they knew you were what you claim to be.

That is unless the old scapegoat statement is made "they only harm is a 'vampire' harms someone else." Which to me is a catch 22.

Don't mine me, just skeptical that "slayers" would take the time out of their day to do anything to anyone, unless they were getting paid for the job by some unknown entity, religiously involved or not. In this case, I think someone may be watching too many movies.

As far as the glowing eye thing, I think a youtube taping is in order for evidence to come into play if someone is going to be gloating about being something without valid video evidence to back their claims.

I have to agree about vampires are not human. PPl who tend to say I am a vampire and not human are taking the hollywood vampire way to serious. I also dont think that a real vampire would go out of their way to state that they are one. Even though it has become something we watch and read and therefore ppl are in the know, I still would think that we as humans would re-act negative towards someone stating they are a vampire.

Therefore to me a real vampire is something (not just human) that draws nourishment from another creature to satisfy a thirst. They would keep this to themselves so as not to bring heat onto them for being different.

If someone really thinks that they are other then human and do have the documentation that testifies to this as fact, then please present the proof.

I am talking about medical records that actually show the DNA Double Helix that shows what chromosomes have changed accordingly that would clarify why the DNA has changed from human to non-human. I would be looking for the genetic make up from 1-22 and X vs Y for the answers.

Once this paperwork comes to light... Then we can talk.

Im still waiting for that from FallenStar.
taps foot~

Have to agree with the doctor again. Ive never mentioned being a vamp to anyone except close friends and on here. And I still get insults from those who just suspect me of being one. If I openly said it itd be much worse.

It's a real shame that after Ive warned that the thread would be closed people still do not seem to understand what the thread is meant to be for. This thread is ONLY FOR YOUR OPINION ON WHAT A VAMPIRE IS. NOT FOR YOU TO ARGUE OVER WHAT IT ISN'T OR ASK PROOF OF SOMEONE WHO CLAIMS TO BE ONE. As I mentioned previously, we have enough of those types all round. It is a real shame we cant have a simple thread just to give an opinion in with no argument. That is what this thread was meant to be. Not a thread to debate in, nor to fight in.... just simply to give your opinion on what a vampire is and read the opinions of others. You do not have to agree with the others, but thats all irrelevant now, seeing as this thread just cant seem to stay on the ACTUAL topic, and keeps being argued in, I am closing it. I do apologize to vXVAMPRE as it was a very lovely idea for a thread.