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Do you think we're going back in time. With censorship taking over everything again, are we slowing reverting to the 50's? I've noticed skirts getting longer and music becoming mundane and "user-friendly". What is going on?

I would like to know if you guys have noticed this as well. And what are your thoughts?

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fasions styles and mentalities tend to cycle...so yes we do seem to be shifting back into more conservative idealisms....but it' won't last....



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I just got done watching Deadwood where they said cock sucker 27 times.

The newest Star Wars movie is rated PG-13. It has far more violence than any previous Star Wars film (all previous episodes were rated PG).

I don't see any trends towards more conservative media and communication.



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it might be a gradual thing. ever since Janet Jackson flashed her boob her in Houston, things around here have gone a little more conservative. What drives me nuts is that Clear Channel pulled a rock station off the air for some urban latino hip-hop crap. we fought hard and got our rock music back but on a different dial. same dj's too.



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we just might be.......and its sad.......



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LOL, I definitely have to agree with Cancer on that one. It is very true what he says, nowadays censorship is overrated. There are so many ways to cuss it is hardly looked down upon by newer generations, which is sad really. Things are more aggressive, more violent, more illicit, and there is plenty of foul language (even if used for the sake of humor). I'd say that instead of going back to the old-fashioned ways, we're going down-hill as a society. In my opinion morals are being thrown out the window, and immorality is being welcomed on the red carpet through golden doors into a tomorrow that is far less from perfection than we expect it to be.



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have not noticied things like that happening but then again i dont pay attention to people much anymore, if u were to come to where i work u wud swear u were back at school with all that happens there lol.



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it's true, people are getting more and more stupid everyday and tech or movie fx advance everyday, our children will pay people to chat for them



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It is true the world is becoming mundane, health and safety seems to be taking over the world! In some places in the UK scouts are not aloud or parade incase one of them falls over and is injured. The law protects the criminals more that it does the civilians. And as for the music don’t get me started,,, dam them all



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I find that no doubt fashion might be going back, and maybe a bit of the music! Some of the bands coming out now are pretty shit, although i find that we are at the same time moving forward and i hope and dont think we will go back to far in time! *prays* (but to who)



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its not that law prtects them they just get smart lawyers,i don't see us going backwards, style all ways repeat themselve just like history does so dearmon is right its a cycle of life,more things are accepeted today hair cloths,tats ect..



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law.. with money people can get away with anything they want.. that sucks..
people are getting defensive, society is getting scared of dissaster and is trying to go backwards and get all defensive and stuff



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law is not only money its a debate and loop holes,,,its a matter of how smart you are in the feild your in...



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Yes, in trying to make the minorities happy I think that we have made the extremes more generic, or more bubblegummy so they aren't extremes anymore



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i haven;t noticed anything, infact when you turn on the TV all i see is violence and sex oriented things. As for clothing i sport the short short skirts and so do other grls here in cleveland (but not as short as mine hehe) infact our skirts are gettin shorter. But on the radio...well they censoredout the word ass and weed which aren't swear words at all! But that's just the radio which sucks...

i say, buy satellite radio ;-)



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but i really don't think we're reverting back to old days...at least not over here in cleveland



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yes defenetly.... i feel like we are in the 50's or something.....
all the chotles and all the decoration for the houses ans shit...
i hate it..



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yes we are with clothes and much more i dont think that we should we should be moving forward and not backwards in time the past has happened and now is the time for the future and not the past.



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i have notice this and i think we are going back and i also think we should find away to change it back



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No.

Don't be silly.

Everything is moving forward.

Just maybe you are not.



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TV
Most shows today have more sex scenes, more body parts being shown, cursing and death scenes. Sex, Violence and death are big sellers for advertisers and so do you think we are going backwards?

Print advertising
Has become more provocative with children and young teens having sex appeal Do you think we are going backwards?

Music
Lyrics tend to have more then just words running through them. Again Sex and Violence and assorted life tales. Do you think we are going backwards?

We have progressed in many ways in the past 20 years and the change will keep happening. Let’s see what the future holds.


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i think that mainstreem is afraid of the future and what it has to hold so thats why there going back in the past.



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fashion goes around, fdades then comes around again. its just the way things are



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i primarily agree with dark admin.
fashion..culture..general standards..definitely not going backwards in terms of prudishness.

that can be seen just by turning on the tv or radio...or walking through the "juniors" section of a department store.

the current government on the other hand...is certainly trying to make policies that take us back to antiquated notions of "decency" ... not so much as to affect our day to day life (because that would interfere with their primary lord, commerce) ... but possibly enough to hinder social progress

back to work for me...



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i guess when the goverment gave us some freedom we kind of took it over board so now they are reducing our freedom with music and fashion cause the skirts was getting too high and the music was getting a little too nasty. They want the control back so they are going to take away the chance for us to be free to say what we want to say. see i was raised on rock and country. i do still listen to that type of music once awhile. I wish the musica and the fashion world will clam it down and please remember there is people who like to wear whole peices of chothes not just a thread. so i do believe that the goverment has the right idea about the fact to take back some control but not too much.



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It has been said what goes around comes around. Life travels in a circle. So maybe you might see somethings come back around and somethings you don't. Like it states in Lion King "The Circle of life". If we don't learn or study the past we are doomed to repeat it !!



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Now that I think about it.... I do seem to notice that that has been happening more and more here recently... who woulda thought? ^_^



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it doesn't matter i will choose 2 people to live and in 30 yrs i will kill every one else in the world



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Desdamona- when the government gave us freedom?

That is one thing that we are not going backward on. There have always been protests for free will, for the mentality fo the communities being controlled by parliament law, and in some aspects there are a lot of rules sanctioning an individual as to how they fit into society, but I dont feel I have been 'given' my right to become more or less obscene, more of less 50's-esque by a group in the House Of Commons, who usally only get the Seat because of their bloodlines.

The world has become over PC so we dont offend anybody at any time of course I prefer this to racism, but its OK for children to watch movies menat for those over 12 because an 'A' has been put into the film classification?

Television has become base. Furniture is sold by flashing nakedness to attract our attention. Adverts have become simplistic... in fact I saw a billboard today for a toothpaste, simply saying 'Pure. Clean. Fresh.' as if I wasnt even expected to be able to decipher constructed prose without someones assistance.

I know Im not totally answering the question... but the world is dumbing down, to make thinking a more comfortable and less self-discovering experience, and this worries me considerably.



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ya i have noticed this too. i sort of think that we r workin a little backwards. it weird



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I don't think we are going backwards, but they are trying to do a good thing although it is not always the right thing. You see more on daytime TV shows than most R rated movies.

I believe the clothes thing is just a fashion thing and will dwindle with time just like all the rest.



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I think extremism begets extremism. The more shows that write "cocksucker" into their scripts, the more censorship is demanded from the conservative masses.



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Problem is that mainstream gets more and more correct and cleaner but on the other hand underground gets more dirty! Both sides tend to extremes and I think that it all will snap at when moment!

"...building the towers belongs to the sky, so when the whole thing comes crashing down don't ask me why..."



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in all hoestly i think it how do i say?... um... Flucuates (sp) in different areas, like we will begin to focus on censoring moosik then if it snot that then movies and not that? then T.V. if not THAT then video games, they just like to drag us around like rag dolls.



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I'm glad you guys took the time to respond to this post. thank you for your in-depth opinions.



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I observed that many mentalities are still of the medieval times especially where I live.Anyways for the skirts getting longer,er... how would they get any shoter?aren't short enough for you? lol
Also I think that some mistakes are repeated over and over again.
As for the cencor,here it is very strong.Most topics aren't allowed to be seen on the local channels:for example non chatolic religions,since my country is chatolic.



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aww going back ward doesn't mean all of that. i have a friend whose grandma is clearly open and all those so call new sex act. yeah she done all of em and that was back in the 50's so if backward means hiding things again kind of but if you look at it another way all weve been doing in the fashion world lately is goign back and men fashion never realy improved much anyhow. I for one wouldn't mind replacing all the statiums with colosiums and so on. I am tired of this industrial senery and a change would be nice.
A NOTE ON THE CENSORSHIP THING:
censorship is happening in my opinion because parents are now letting the tv raise thier kids and if their kids happen to see something they wont take the time to explain it and so on. so if the media is being blamed for every little bad thing thats happening well so they are deciding to play parents. and I realy don't see the point when everything is censored and the news tell you of things like that anyhow lately thats all the news have been doing. topics are always child molestation, war, drug bust, official caught with hookers and so on.



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all this generation does is cuss..well atleast in my state they do..its not getting more user friendly..i have seen alot of children shows that are dirty minded..but i dont know..i mean whatever!



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for the past few years we've been going back in the past and then accelerating to the present, its crazy, this world



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Big Brother is watching, censorship, Onstar, Gps tracking in cell phones. The signs are thre.



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i think things certainly do rely on the past but i also think that we go back and forth every time we do something, i mean we were evolved from the past so we will always rely on that in some form or another



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it depends on whcih circles you travel in some groups are going more concervative and others more wild but a lot of the old fashions are coming back



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well as a child born in the 60's i can honestly say that things seem to be a deja vu



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yes I agree we have to remember we are the new future lets change it ther is strengh in numbers



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yes we are going back in time. We have no freedoms, no rights, our religions are being criticized (sp) again. We are reverting back to when people first came to America and even further.

FUCK BUSH



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u all have picked this one apart. No need for me here -goodbye.



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Well with all the conformists out there and the they may be trying to But I definitely think no cause most PG 13 movies today are far more violent than they used to be I used to think of PG 13 movies as kids shows now they have just as much action as a R Rated film so no I do not think we are going back



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As far as the things and people I am around and exposed to uh I don't see a cycle. Most things are becoming more macabre.



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well... i think that all the world is upside-down and going backwards...
that's the way life is... crappy



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hahahaha... thats freaking awesome... but i hate censorship... im a very liberal person... i think people should do what they think is right



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I totally agree I mean come on most kids see and hear worse things in school than they do on tv or radio. I know thats how it was at least at the schools I went too.



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maybe we like longer skirts they have been around forever and i dont know about anyone eles but i have been as u said "friendly" my whole life and no we are not going back and time its just the way some people like to be



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yes i have noticed it and i dont agree with it at all. i do not like the fact that cesorship has to control everything and that you cant even express yourself the way you want and get a job. its awful.



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cencorship is a little more in some area then it was before and less in other areas. so no we are not going backward. what I find funny is that in he usa the goverment is not supose to censer anything. not one single thing it's in the constitution. alot of people don't know that



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for the love of god we have more freedoms now than ever and we choose to use it with fowl language on tv and other stupid things what we really need is someone to slap us in the face every now and then so we get a real perspective of important things.



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i also have noticed that. as we go further into the future it does seem like fashion and such things are reversing itself. but i think that it's only fashion. technology and stuff as u know are getting more futuristic. but other than that it seems that we are going backwards



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04:45:34 Jul 10 2005
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I don't really feel we are moving backwards. But the sad fact is we are a majority ruled by a law making never satisfied minority. We have laws that go against the constitution and the bill of rights. If people do not start standing up against this, I fear one day we may all be mindless drones ran by the government :(



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DarkRaven666
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04:50:51 Jul 10 2005
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I don`t think were going backward really. It`s true,fashions just tend to cycle,sometimes the same with music. I don`t think were going backwards but it was a good question.



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Stormie
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04:51:19 Jul 10 2005
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It's A Perfect Circle. No, really.

Time repeats itself, just evolved. It's a life loop.



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PerfectlyDamned
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14:41:09 Jul 25 2005
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We are a society that is growing ever more concerned with the morality of our children. We are more open to what's "obscure, obscene, and only-lawrd-knows-why", and perhaps sometimes we step over the line a little too far when it comes to the things we say, feel, speak, express, and see.

It's all about protecting common decency. But, sometimes it goes to the extreme on that as well.

Hmm, but if you watch the news lately, clips of torture, beheadings, executions are displayed. It's not like it used to be 5 or 10 years ago. So, we're not going backwards yet.

Maybe there will come a time some of us to burn our bras again? :p



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AngelCutz
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16:47:48 Jul 25 2005
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nah, i think the media is still way more leaniant than the were in the 50's.



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Marix
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17:02:47 Jul 25 2005
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Ever since Titty Gate, there was alot more censore ship on TV and the radio.



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VTR
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17:30:51 Jul 25 2005
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well...that's the way the world is now....



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Monique
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20:55:57 Jul 25 2005
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Well I have heard the saying "History repeats its self" all my life and if that’s the case..... I am ready to be the Pharaoh of Egypt ;)



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21:12:14 Jul 25 2005
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It seems like and and yes, 'history does repeat itself' is a very true statement. It makes one wonder though, doesn't it?



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21:13:31 Jul 25 2005
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I hope not..then places like these would be extinct.



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mistertricky13
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ever been to Alabama? Its a time warp. This place is stuck in the 70's...rednecks with greasy Elvis hair, everyone is a mechanic but most of the cars are falling apart and emit exhaust from hell and everyone says "yawnt-to" and "ustacood" like Larry the Cable Guy. The rest of the world may cycle, but Alabama is a backwards running treadmill...lol



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dirtylawngnome101
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00:52:17 Jul 26 2005
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a lot of people are bringing back the looks from back in the 1900's.....but tequnology is getting better and everything so yeah....kinda yes and kinda no



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00:54:04 Jul 26 2005
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I don't think we are going backwards when it comes to fashion and music lol I think they just ran out of good ideas so they have to go back in time
Hey Canada is legalized Gay Weddings and Rights so we are definetly moving foward
the only complaint is all the "political correctness" there is too much and no one can just have a laugh anymore with out some group calling it wrong



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kellatra
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03:41:24 Jul 26 2005
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Of course we are! Conservatives have taken over the government, new laws are being proposed to restrict the movements of women, gays, and others opposed to the religious right, and music is taking a plunge! Welcome to the apocalypse, children.
And by the way, I believe Jesus would have been a socialist, as he always looked after the poor (pre-medicaid), always healed eveyone (universal free healthcare), and abhored killing (would suport the death penalty).



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LadyEslaina
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13:56:21 Jul 30 2005
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yes, definatley ..... soon you'll have to cover your stomach and knee's again to go swimming .....



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NewBreed
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14:00:09 Jul 30 2005
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It is impossable to move backwards especially when drunk you just end up falling over



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bulimicbastard
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17:26:58 Jul 30 2005
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some kids like clothes from earlier times but i think thats just them but who knows



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Marious
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20:22:27 Jul 30 2005
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i really do prey so



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