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Is Evil a concept, an idea, a survival skill? Are we born to do bad things simply because it's genetic or is it something learned? Is Evil something that can infect you like a virus? Is the Devil the "soul" cause/root of Evil? This question is open to interpretation, afterall, there are many forms of Evil...[Don't confuse this as a question of good vs. evil]

Many questions...

Well In my opinion there is no devil just a bad force, but whatever bad force out there has nothing to do with evil...unless of course you become possesed.

I believe the causes of being "evil" is all pyschological. Most of it I guarentee is damgae from childhood too. Being evil is definetly a state of mind, no one is born pure evil.

Bu that's just my opinion, I'm curious to see what other people will have to say...

evil is simply a choice, we all have the choice weather to be good or evil or maybe a combination of both since we all have our tempers and things that will set them off, good and eveil are both a part of us all, its just how we choose to live, the actions that we take in different situations that determine which we are or want to be.

it is a choice and a road in which we choose

I agree, you can definetly chose to be evil, but some people have problems and snap, becoming evil due to psychological issues an can't help it. Some people really just are crazy...I've seen it.

evil is definatly tangible...ever been alone and you get the gut feeling somthing realy bad is going to happen...then it does...yep you just experianced a tangible evil

evil is definately a state of mind......
even in cases in which people are influenced by some darker entity....they opened themselves to such things on their own....
we all have an inner darkness that we have to choose to lock away.....or choose to let run free
at the end of the day...we still have the choice

Well said Caermon, I wholeheartedly agree. Evil is quite tangible and we always have a choice.

My Apologies a typo that was meant to be Daermon not Caermon

hehhe
typodemon attacks!!!!

I think that evil, for the most part, does not exist except in human definition. Many of the things we consider evil are merely survival techniques that do not gain our moral approval.

It can be all.
It's all about perspectives.What can be evil for me might not be evil for you.
Also some might pretend they are evil to be ''cool'' in reality they're idiots.

I was asked what about possession in a pm on this topic
my take on that is that some people are just truly good people...in both thought and deed....I feel these people cannot be possessed....but those who even think dark or unkind thoughts are opening themselves to both the darkness within.....and the darkness without....
age is irrelevant in this....
so in choosing to think along negative paths you have chosen to open yourself to the evil......we all have it...you must choose not to use it

oh how i miss, the ever swift & precise, ways of our fellow VR member ECHO...........

"evel" like the feeling of "bad" is in your hade. you could fix it. but you wont it? this is the problem. (or maybe it's not...) i'm lost. i couldent answer this on to myself this is why i'm so deep in my mind...
But still i think evel is a state of mind...

Thanx Your Freak

*evil* sorry

Evil is real, evil is power; even a chief angel like Archangel Michael can not confront it. Don't mess with evil, or anything else in the spirit world.

I beleive it is a present mind set--if you are inheritly evil than evil you are.
Choices are either good or bad.

I think, this specific question aside, one has to look at what 'evil' IS.

What is evil TO YOU?
Right now... what I find evil... someone else might look right past with their own definition/justification for it.

The little girl who is chained to the water heater in the basement for half the summer because of a dress being hung wrong. I find that parent evil.. not to mention a few other choice 'colorful metaphors'.

I find anyone who abuses a child in any manner 'evil'.

Unfortunatly people also confuse the word evil with 'wrong'.

What I find wrong is not being comfortable in ANY position I sleep in (2 1/2 more months).

I think, generally, what I'm getting at is that what 'evil' is... is an opinion.

Therefore not tangable.
A state of mind.
An opinion.

Yeah...

I think most of the 'evil' you come across is just decisions/actions that the majority of ppl dont agree with, and therefore label it 'evil'

I do also think real evil exists out there, we just dont see it much

hehe hey miz...heres one for ya....
there is no more proof of good and evil in a christian sense than there is of us so called vamps being real....
heheh I know you'll have some commentary on that

All of you make very interesting point of views. I pretty much think it starts with a psychological disorder, even though you may not notice it and when something happens it'll trigger that disorder and blow up in your face.

Basically it's just like most of you have said. :P But yeah. Just another person who agrees.

agreeing is one thing thorny...but actually putting the why in there....thats what we like to se in the forums...any monkey can say they agree....but saying why requires thought....bravo on being a thinker

I don't think there is such thing as actual "evil" or "good", they're all made up, separated into what they are by humans. State of mind, I suppose.

I feel it is all the opinion of the person. I may think something is evil but that doesn't make it true. They may think what they are doing is right.

This may be just as unusual as I normally have been in the past but...I believe it is both tangible and a state-of-mind. See every person and thing with a soul, including angel and demons if you believe in that stuff has the capacity to act, feel, and become evil. It is tangible because people can be straight evil no matter what you say, I have seen it. This is not a movie, and some things you can't find defined in a book.

If you are a member of this site, you must think somewhere in that cranium of yours that there is more to this world than what our 5 sences can sence.

tangible.
pick up your copy today...
"the crow 4 (with edward furlong) : there is no god"

its is both. evil is something we humans created in a reverse to good...without death there is no life..without evil there is no good..it sets them apart

We are born to have evil. No one is born of pure goodness. Evil is part of our lives just as good is. We learn what evil is and we see what evil is. Surroundings and lifestyles are an influence to the evil that people hold inside !!

I think its a choice unless your a mentally unstable person with alot of issus.

Like if people are born evil?They don't just learn a set of norms that others would define as evil?

Hail Satan,high and mighty king of Hell!

Does that make evil?

i beleive that evil is a state of mind

I must agree with weirdwhtieguy at this point.

:: shakes head and mumbles ::
Comprehensive thought people...

-_-

It's fine that you agree... but WHY.

WHY do you agree or disagree with another person.

Am I the ONLY person on this site that gets tired of filing though the "Yeah, uh-huh, I agree with so&so..." 's to get to the well thought out answers.

Not even well thought out ones. Just something that proves you actually had a thought process that brought you to your answer.

Evil is tangible, and it is present in today's society. But once again, evil is in the eye of the beholder, it is purely relative to what you believe.

For example, many people might see the very existence of this site a pure manifestation of evil in the world. To them I would say get a life and get over it, but believe me there are people out there that would believe this. And what's more, they are entitled to their oppinion and we have no right to tell them that they are wrong.

Good and Bad, Dark and Light, Evil and Benign, all are reletive, there are very few people in this world who we may consider to be evil, that would actually agree with us.

So I think the better question to ask is .... What do you believe to be an evil act ... not is evil tangible.

I think evil is a choice or learned behavior. I get so pissed off when people use the "Devil made me do it" excuse. No one makes you do the things you do good or bad, you do them cuz you want to or your taught to react that way. Is it tangiable I dont know about that, some people say it is food, sex, drugs, and any other thing that is concidered evil those are all tangiable things but are they really evil, no they are just things objects or people that tempt, it is what you do with those temptations that is concidered evil and there again it is a choice, you can stuff your face, screw random people, be strung out everyday but those are all your choices no one elses. We are not born evil we are conditioned to be evil.

Evil is a state of mind and once people reach a point then they are evil and it is tangible.

It really depends on what you define evil as, a person can be evil but In that sense id have to say its a state of mind

i would say that it is caused by your surroundings

Evil is a dark thing born in a heart that either festers and grows with the surroundings in which it is growing in, or burns and dies for the same thing. All is dependent on the 'now' and 'present' of things.

it is whatever you make of it and the stronger you are the more you can mold it

Evil is evil. I don't think you are born Evil, and I don't think you learn to be evil either. Its something you choose to be. Evil has been and always be around, no matter what we try to do to wipe it from this earth. Its something that has been in exhistance since the dawn of time, it something we have to learn to live with.

Hmmmmmmm....Is Evil A State Of Mind Or Is It Tangible?

In a word......yes.

}B-)X

Evil to me is somthing that everybody has inside themself. It is just a quastion if you want to let it out or not. And I also think that Evil is´t somthing that is bad everytime. It deppends wath the evilnes is for...

here's my 2p for whats its worth...

We are all born with equal opportunity of light and dark paths within us...our upbringing shapes us and moves us down one or other of those paths and we continually cross over dependant on the events that occur in our lives and the education we receive.

so when achieve adulthood at around 21, we have already the basis for the person that we will be in the future, we develop a personality that will be very hard to change.

But then, evil is simply a label that we attach to enable us to understand the actions of those that cause harm and grief to others...it can be described as intrinsic to our being, as it is the flow of negative energy from each of the auras you project at differing levels of conciousness...for example...if you are emotionally scarred in childhood, you will receive a blockage in your flow of energy and this will expend itself from you in an abnormal manner, perhaps expressing itself in violence as opposed to love, because the mind has been trained to do such though its experiences.

so...in answer to your questions- for me, evil is a concept which we apply to those actions which have been learned and have pushed a soul down the 'dark' path, but not something that you can be infected by, unless you count the 'infection' of opinion...

evil is a man made cocept satan is a myth that the church's use to scare you into there belife's now i'm not saying that there is no good or evil balance i don't belive that we veiw it the right way.
with out negitive*evil*there could not be a positive*good*
so regardless if it is Tangible it is something that is inside all of us some just don't show it as much as others

who is to say they are bad things? you shood not label things that are unknown...I see evil and good as one thing it just seems to pop out diffrent every now and then

i think that the environment influences you to become evil or not. i mean if you grow up in crime you dont think its summit wrong, is it?
its up to your intelligence though whether you become evil or not coz you should learn whats right and wrong and make the decision

Evil doesn't exist. People don't kill people to be evil, they do it because of something else. Evil has to be redefined during different eras and countries. Some one in Taiwan could be considered evil, but so are people who eat cows to Hindus. "Evil" is part of human nature. Its human nature to fight, kill, etc. Evil is neither a state of mind nor a tangible force, its just part of human nature.

you Interest me fritz you just mainly said almost the same as me its just way better XP

well, to define evil you must have a solid definition of good, then evil would be the opposite of that. ^_^ But as I don't think that answers the question here's another perspective.

Evil in and of itself is not a tangible substance. For something to be tangible it must be definite and evil is most definitly not definite. A person most have at least some definition or what is "good" in order to determine what they find "bad." As every person is different, there is a different definition of "good" for each person and therefor a different definition of "bad". And, based on today's general conscenious, "evil" is basicly the absolute form of "bad" Now, knowing that, we can say that the definition of "evil" also varies from person to person giving it no definite form.

Now here's where I contridict myself, one of the reasons why having multiple personalities sucks. Although there is a general conscenious as to the meanings oh "good," "bad," and "evil," the three still mean something different to everyong. Therefore if need be, a person's mind can give "evil" a tangible form, like the devil for instance. Why that happens varies from person to person but usually has something to do with a fear of some sort. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that, if it must be labeled, "evil" is more of a state of mind than anything.

*shrugs* I dunno, I'm just yapping. Once again, here's hoping at least some of that made sense.

NO EVIL ISNT A STATE OF MIND!!

EVIL IS JUST EVIL. IT COME'S TO U ONLY IF U WANT IT TO COME U ARE THE ONE THAT CONTROLS EVIL

Evil comes to those who seek it out. That is something I always say, but it always comes to those who try so hard as to not seek it out, its a double standard, and is far too in depth to answer one way, it has more than one correct answer

Evil is tangible force: I don't need to go far back in history, to find regimes where compassion has been suppressed, and evil has reigned. I am not talking about the fascinating abominations who disgust us with their incomprehensible and detestable acts of savagery—they are just fucked units that missed the humanity bit of being a human, but rather the tangible force that descends and corrupts everything. The devil is given power on earth, and I cannot see him, but I can see his effects.

I don’t believe in the devil or god …. I think that evil is just a human state of mind. It just some thing I guess that every one have in them but some people seem to let it out….

Evil rests within one's soul and can be awaken by different things...

state of mind

thats definitly something to thinka bout......... i dont know, i like evil sometimes but i dont know if i would say its genetic

just a state of mind

all humans has the pontental to be evil. animals see things in a different light. they do what they need to seurvive. we dont we kill for plesare. blood sport and so on. you do not know true evil untill you look into someones eyes that has totaly given into evil. and thank the goddess there are very few people like that in our world. and thoses that are there usally meet there end.

good or bad? what u think of that? every thing is good n every thing is bad but it depends on the thought of people
really huh?

Evil is a state of mind....now how you use evil.....that is your own illusion.....

Evil is different in everybdies personal moral system, and one person may e offending another without even realising it.

Some people take pleasure in 'being' evil, apparently, but do we really have any proof for that ( I think that the dramatisation is often more media and cinema based than acutual people) and maybe some are without choice in the matter. However i think its important to bare in mind that some believe that evil is a posession, others think its al motivated by the self, and that can make a big differece in the final outcome.

Is an executioner evil?

They commit murder, but its in a way 'legal' murder, and considering the feudal system at the time when public executions was popular, killing someone who had commited a 'crime' 9which could have been anthing a small as sealig a loaf of bread) could b seen as 'doing good for the society.' Its something im trying to sruggle with myself, and I dont know if anything can really come u with a comrehensive answer of 'what is evil when when it spans past the individuals moral values.

* snort *

EVIL IS TANGIBLE

Evil is subtle and powerful and corrupts quietly.

As an aside, I do read what you write Echo, it is always well thought out, but this time you are wrong. Evil is not a state of mind, it is a force that will corrupt, unless held at bay.

Evil is in the Congo, where soldiers are canibals, not for food, but for rituals; it is in the terrorists training camps, creating live stock for religious zealotry; it is in America, where there is a wicked waste of resources in the name of capitalism; it is in Japan, where the barbarians still eat whales. It is not in the mind.

As you said to me Miz, I also read your posts and find them wll thought out, i was not saing that evil is entirely a state of mind, but when it spans past the fundamental ideas of what is evil, for instance when t becomes a hierarchal or sciological mass concept rther than an individual moral system, then its definition can become confusing.

well evil to me is not a state of mind. before i can take on this post i must get a definition of what is evil. for what is evil to one is not to another. i will draw the example of the war not as a political thing but just for an example to some its a good thing to others they think its evil.

as for my own conviction evil sometime is just a defense mechanism. I have done some evil things in life just because i was simply hurt real bad and wanted other to understand the pain so i delt as close as the pain i was feeling to others.

as for this
EVIL IS JUST EVIL. IT COME'S TO U ONLY IF U WANT IT TO COME U ARE THE ONE THAT CONTROLS EVIL.

sometime we cannot surpress evil it can consume us so much that were swallowed by it. yes in the end most of us come out but that is after many demages have been done

i beleive that it can be born into, also it can be a state of mind, then thats not evil, its just wanting and beleiving you are...

Evil can't be a state of mind. Look at Hitler, he killed millions of people, to him his actions were justified and good, to other people he is evil. Like it was said before, you have to have a definate definition for it and the opposite of it would be evil.

No one does things to be evil, their actions just happen to be labeled that.

There is no such thing as pure evil, but I suppose it would be possible to be 'infected' with evil as you grow older; no one is 'born' evil because "good and evil" aren't implanted in our DNA when we are born.

Evil is a concept created by man, as is the idea of good. No other creature on earth has that distinction. So it is definitely a state of mind. Our actions based on it are what we see as being tangible.

"Evil" I don't think there is a such thing. It's a term that someone can use on someone else for the sole purpose of controlling what they can or can't do. Trying to make them feel bad about something that they might agree with but others don't. If it did exist then everyone would be evil b/c there's always someone out there that disagrees with something that many others like. For instance, I think most cake tastes putrid, so all you cake lovers are evil. Wahahaha.....

"Evil" I don't think there is a such thing. It's a term that someone can use on someone else for the sole purpose of controlling what they can or can't do. Trying to make them feel bad about something that they might agree with but others don't. If it did exist then everyone would be evil b/c there's always someone out there that disagrees with something that many others like. For instance, I think most cake tastes putrid, so all you cake lovers are evil. Mwahahaha.....

Also, sorry for the double post. I'm new to this forum thing, gimme a break crazy.

It is a complicated question I suppose that Evil is really a relative thing. what is good to one person might be evil to another. so that being the case I suppose i would consider the concept of evil to just be a state of mind.

i dont know what evil is, and this topic is very deep, and i dont know why but i cant seem to concentrate on it, and i wish i could because it seems to be very interesting.

Evil Is Just A State Of Mind...

evil is very real.I cant say how i know that because you would think me to be crazy.I know there is evil and it can take hold of people that think it's not there.

it is both, there is the force of evil.. and there is the thought of evil.. in either case we are the ones that decide what and who we listen to so at the end of the day we are without excuse.. we either appreciate life enough to wish to do good or we don't

I think that you are born with the ability to be evil. But there are some who dont tap into it, and others that do and can control it. Others who are driven mad cant control themselves. I believe that it is a choice to do evil things but the thoughts and ability are completly natural. If that makes sense to anyone.

i think it's something we develop i dont think it is something we are born with

All of the above...I'm drained and so my brain is dead...been too long since I fed...

IF YOU SERIOUSLY HAVE TO ASK IS EVIL "TANGIBLE"...THEN PLEASE DO EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING ON THIS REALM OF EXISTANCE AND GO TO YOUR NEAREST HIGHWAY AND ACT AS A SPEEDBUMP FOR ONCOMING TRAFFIC...PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE THE REASON WHY SCUMBAGS LIKE JACKSON GET OFF(IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE) WTF IS GOING ON IN YOUR SAD LITTLE WORLD THAT MAKES YOU SO "NUMB" TO THE WORLD AROUND YOU...EITHER STOP SMOKING CRACK..OR NO..JUST LAY OFF THE PIPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ASSHOLE

Lesson of the day: Think Before You Speak[silly doll...]

I've been reading up on the responses of this thread I had posted and am very pleased that many of you took this question for what it is and not merely for something "evil". :::Grin:::
Many of the responses have been interesting and thoughtful. It's good to know that you aren't afraid to speak your minds.

I'll be adding some of these responses in my journal...that's how much I like you guys.

I believe that the term "Evil" is just what we define as undesirable. I believe that "evil" is not a universal concept, but one crafted by humanity. The evidence I find for this is in the poignant phrase: "One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist." What we might find despicable, another might find right in the right circumstances. Of course, we might call them wrong and evil, but that's because "we're" not "them."

Of course, this in no way means I have made a value judgment or believe that people should stop this at all costs. I think people should just think a little harder before they label something. Okay, now I'm getting off my soapbox.

This 'evil' you speak of is everything and nothing. Evil, in your description, could be very different from everyone else's view on it. You are brought up to what you believe evil is. Family, friends, media and mostly society gives you an out look on what evil is. But really, it could be anything. Most people only refer to evil as something has happend. Such as, "That guy hates me. He's evil!" And so on and so forth. Everyone is going to have a different view on what it is.

evil is a state of mind. thought gives birth to action

depends which eveil you speak of it can be both, that dragon within makes you evil and evil lurks in every darkness

This thread has reached its maximum length. Therefore, I am closing it.



Bye-Bye Thread.



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