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according to old European folklore, a sure fire way to deal with a vampire is to leave a tangled fishing net on his / her grave - the vampire is compelled to sit untangling and repairing the net, until the sun comes up. another old wives tale says you can keep a vampire from entering your home by scattering rice over your doorstep - the vampire cannot pass until they have picked up and counted every grain.

this would suggest that Vampires are obssessed with puzzles and games (anyone for a game of double hangman?). Do any of the Vampires on this site recall hours wasted during the eighties whilst they sat fiddling with a Rubiks Cube? Given the choice of biting a luscious virgin's neck, or finishing off that 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle, do you go for the jigsaw every time?

Well I had not thought of it till now, that you have mentioned it ....I did do that and yes I do go for the puzzles and do not stop till I have gotten them complete... This is a very interesting thought you have brought up. Amazing how very close it is to how I am and how I do act/behave with puzzles and such....

I like this thought you have posted.Though i must dissagre with both.. Vampyres are highly known to be OCD..Hence the tangled net and the rice.This comes from the B.C times .
REFERANCE---..Vampyres are of a nature of higher mind quality,They are a curious kind."If i do this what will happen"A supossed myth rolled around in these times that Lilith had a gown made and it was less then perfect.With her being upset she cast upon all the race with inproved minds.And i'm not just talkig about this and that from the ways they can fly and all of that other stuff.. But inproved minds by the way of being to see in a different perspective So to the point of my disscussion.. Yes.. I am sure vampyres love playing games.. Who wouldn't like fun sometimes.. But i don't think games are a weakness to a certain point.. We are a one track mind.If we see food we feed..Nothing will stop that.. Not rice or nets.

Are vampires really highly known to be anything? *grin*

Anybody remember the X-Files episode with that town of vampires, and Muldor kept one busy by spilling a bag of sunflower seeds or something like that? The vampire was so very pissed off as he started to count them, stopping only long enough to tell Muldor how very angry he was.

Seeing as how real vampires are human beings, I would think, if put in the highly unlikely situation of "kill and feed to prevent discovery, or count the spilled marbles", that a person would be able to overcome their OCD for a few minutes to take care of the screaming person problem.

But that's just my opinion. ;)

If I can eat and type, I am sure a vampire can count things and bite necks

Also vampires are supposed to be able to move at great speed, it can't take them long to count a few seeds can it?

Now this goes into.. what kind of vampyre we are talking about.. holly wood or real vamps.. I can't move at amazing speed.. I am OCD And i will take care of a screaming victim.

I am nuts when it comes to puzzles especially the 1000 or more pieces. When I have it all laid out and begin to put it together I actually can memorize every piece and when I fall asleep I dream of where a certain piece goes so I wake up and do it. Happens with evry puzzle.
BLESSED BE

i dont know about those type of ocd things.... but i like to play games with people... i like to mess with their life a little.... and play games in that sense... the brain is alot harder to figure out than any other mind teasers are....

Dear Artemka

You seem to be demeaning the power of the Vampyre

I for one take that as an insult and this being a vampyre related site (if not excusive)
I would appreciate more qualification regarding your post

BLESSED BE Madlyn

LordLestat,

I was not intending my post to be demeaning to vampire powers and certainly not intended as an insult to you personally.

I can't see how simply offering a vampire a puzzle could stop such a powerful creature in pursuing his goal.

The 'neck biting' and 'counting' references were a direct answer to the matters in the original question

I would be grateful if you would re-read my answer with this in mind

i find the seed / rice counting thing a bit unlikely - its just a bit of folklore. the point is, according to folklore many mythical beasts / gods / fairies etc are beaten or defeated due to some obssession with puzzles and games. like the Rumplestiltskin tale. i know he was never depicted as a vampire, but the principle is the same principle. like playing chess with Death.

Perhaps that explains my video game addiction! =p

Well, I do know about the OCD compulsion. I am just a regular human not a vampire by any stretch of the imagination. but, I finid that I will sit for hours on puzzle or game or something that is complexing and I feel the need to figure it out.

So it may be something that is an individual thing and something that doesn't effects all those that belong within vampiric society.

Artemka

I must saay that I for one found your earlier post rather frivilous but on reading your follow up I agre with & understand your words
But with the greatest respect to this thread I will never agree that Vampyrism could ever be thought of as just a "game"
For we are highly intelligent Immortals here to guide others and hopefully help add to the database of Cancer's magnificent site.

Enjoy and learn my fellow vr contributer

Long may we all add to the site and contribute as you do.

Thank you Sir, I stayed up past bedtime to read that :)

And a great thankyou for awaiting my response

you are a very intelligent person.

I indeed respect your further comment as I am sure others will too

Karnstein
Your reference to "plaaying chess with Death"

I would appreciate your elaboration on that point as I feel "games & puzzles" are far different from chess

That be the game of Kings (and Princes of course)

Hmm... I have noticed that before, actually... I have a tedious obsession with the whole action-reaction thing... I do things just to see what will happen... It's something I can't help most of the time... and yes, I will even stop in the middle of an arguement or something that should require all of my attention just to do something like that... Maybe it's just me, though...

I'll admit to being just a little too OCD with games, puzzles, and mindteasers. Stop to count the rice? Sorry, not my cup of tea. Untangle and repair a fishing net that's not even mine . . . okay, I've done things similar to that already. It's definitely an interesting train of thought.

r.e. playing chess with Death - i was thinking of Ingmar Bergman's Seventh Seal - i'm not sure if that was inspired by myth or his own invention, but the idea of a hero playing some sort of strategy game with a deity or spirit being for his soul / life is a common archetype. sorry to cut through the pretension, but chess is a game, its played between two players on a board with equal numbers of pieces. but in the broad sense of the wrod, all contests are games. the Olympics are called the "Olympic Games" do not think that calling something a game in any way demeans it. games play a very important role in life. i dare say there are a few serious Vampires who see the trapping of their quarry a game. many people see seduction as a game. call it an intelectual challenge if you prefer. I must say, the idea of it being OCD didnt occur to me til you mentioned it, and i now find that quite fascinating.

ive heard of the untyin knot thing on the x files and how vamps are a bit obbseive compulsive, and i no if im knitting and it gets tangled i cant cut the thread i have to untie it no matter how long it takes
lol

as far as the OCD thing goes, i remember even as a teenager when i was shopping at a grocery store, if i saw something in a spot it shouldn't be, i would move it. And i have been known to spend as much as 14 hours a day on video games. I don't know if these things are in any way related to "vampyric characteristics" or just part of our human nature.

Let's see,decisions,decisions!
A puzzle or a lovely,young lady!?
I guess I'll just have grab a bite while I'm trying to make up my mind! ::wink::

karnstein,in Greek Mythology,the Sphynx stopped travellers & asked them a riddle.
If the traveller couldn't answer the riddle,the Sphynx killed & devourered the traveller.
I believe it was Theseus (but I don't recall) who answered the riddle & the Sphynx jumped,shreiking,to her death off of a cliff.
Also,there's a story that Daniel Webster once had a riddle contest with the Devil,if the Devil won,he'd get old Daniel's Soul.
Daniel won the contest,the Devil shreiked,cursing & cussing & departed to his domain.
Literature & Myth do have instances where Death was cheated through the "toss of a coin" or "roll of the dice".

I suppose whether they would take out their victims or count seeds would depend on the situation, and the type of vampire. Some vampires would instantly kill their prey, while others would take the time to count the seeds, knowing their prey would not elude them forever and revelling in the thrill of the hunt.

I personally think that it is silly to think that, instead of taking substanance, that a vampire would rather play a game.

i dunno if thats games or a severe case of obsessive compulsive dissorder

I am obsessed with comprehension. Not just mine, but other peoples as well. (I see other peoples points of view really rather quickly, and then spend a lot of time trying to explore other points of view... which makes me seam argumentative..Heh heh.)

I like to understand the why of the thing. The end result of the puzzle is irrelivant if you understand the "trick." A whole system that follows a trick of wordplay etc... tehn that type of puzzle becomes boring to me.
However, there are some things that stop me cold because I do not understand tehm properly. Even though basic elctrical wiring is simple... I do not like to do it, because I do not really understand electricity... not that I won't use an electrical device... jsut that I won't fiddle with it beyond the scope of my comprehension (ie transistors and motherboards...etc).

So in this way I could see a puzzle as a barrier. If an enigma were presented to me... I would not destroy it, in fact I would be fascinated to the point of destraction.

A good enigma is harder to find than a food source.

I have an obsessive personality...but I blame it on my mother, who has Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. lol But maybe it is the vampire in me just showing the obsessive nature.

I love a good game.
I will sit for hours untangling rope....no point in it..but i have to get every knot out.
Puzzles, puzzle video games....i love them
I will sit for hours playing sudoku.
I had never thought of that before..interesting thread.

I can understand if someone starts something an OCD can make them not stop til its done

but would it apply if someone else simply dropped the 'game' in front of them, as in the case of the vampire myth up top?

I have to agree with Lestat that the original myths were more about obsession and compulsion rather than games or puzzles. After all, how much of a game is counting rice or picking up seeds? OCD is painfully difficult for a person to simply ignore. On top of that, we should consider that in the myths where this is mentioned, it was 'impossible' for a vampire to continue until the obsessive task was completed. This pointed to a supernatural influence over their compulsion and not simply a devout interest in solving problems.

Finally, this is one of the OLD myths...it would seem odd for many of the people here to argue against the idea of the original undead myths with their penchant for silver or garlic or sunlight, etc and then totally embrace the idea that vampires are obsessed with games because it fits in with their ill spent time in the eighties. That seems a bit like cherry picking to me.

I like to think that these early solutions to stopping vampires were hatched in order to give someone hope in the face of spreading futility from the diseases that were often the cause of 'vampire sightings' centuries ago. You no longer had to dig up your recently deceased mother, behead her, and stuff garlic in her rotting mouth...just throw a tangled net on the grave. Besides, local magistrates were starting to frown on the whole grave desecration hysteria so this would also offer a more legal alternative.

The members article 'Seeds and Vampires' says that The Vampire Book: The Encyclopedia of the Dead pp: 545-546 goes on to mention that the vampire could only count one seed a year. If the myth is right the vampire would hardly ever move ! - counting not just the seeds thrown out to stop him but also the seeds that blow around naturally.

I follow along with FelixFelix - some of the myths are based in fact, smash a stake through the heart of someone you think to be a vampire and - yes - they die. The seed myth doesn't hold much chance in working.

It would have to be a more of a reassuring thing to stop people worrying.

I've never heard of either of the old wives tales you posted, but, seems to me that "IF" they were true Vampires would be suffering from OCD not some kind of game.
Monk anyone? LOL.
I find it rediculous. Vampires are romantic and dark creatures, yes ...... well maybe.... they play with their food, but so what doesn't everyone at some point?

FelixFelix I think had a very good point.

I think that it was a matter of stoping people from descrateing graveyards and economis that might have given birth to these tales.

It would stand to reason. as most cultures frown disturbing graves, the government(local)and law enforemnt of the times woud have to come out with something at that time that would plausibly pass in the minds of the ppl.

It didn't have to make a whole lot of sense as most things that are based on a certain belief system don't unless you believe and tht is all that counts

all legends are based, at least to some degree, in truth.......but you guys are missing the important question...are they poppy, or seaseme seeds? oh gosh, or maybe even *gasp*, sunflower seeds!!

kingjakk, I have learned to my cost not to mention the words 'truth', 'myth' and 'vampire' in the same sentence - you might get away with it :)

The myth does not only cover seeds of course, there was rice and of course knotted cord etc

and perhaps the seed thing is a spell, or faith... i would have to read/hear the myth to find the grain (seeed) of truth to the story.

Anyway, back to teh topic of games and not just the myth that was the springboard of teh topic; i agree that it would be because vampyres are intelligent that we are fascinated by games... i think that if one were really OCD one could not live as a vampire... tehre is way too much mess, the blood just gets everywhere. I can't imagine what it would have been like before lancets and alcohol/baby wipes. I don't think the OCD thing really stands up when you concider sangues.

hey people,
i personaly dont have any pashintz with puzzels i start strong and then fade out or i get distracted and forget. :( so not cool!!! lets see ocd, yea i have some chartactoristics but not dignosed with it i freak out when some one moves something in my domain... but thats just me.

Are we now implying that vampires (modern day or otherwise) have a stronger propensity for intelligence Kglitterous?

Let's look at that...if we're talking about myth, they've obviously been foolish enough to be caught by another vampire, and they always seem to get caught or destroyed in myth and fiction...so they're definately not more intelligent in myth or fiction that the average human...just stronger and older.

So how about modern vampires...well they chose the name vampires with all the stigma, superstition and prejudice that goes with the name...that was a dumb move. Many have also opted to follow as 'truth', the written word of a person who used to write gothic fiction and showed avid interest in VtM...that took some serious faith and imagination but I'd hardly say it required intelligence.

So do people think that vampires 'like games' because their smarter? Is that something that can be backed up or is that more ego coming into play?

With the exception of some games like chess, I don't think that intelligence and game playing always go together - skill and strength maybe.

So IF vampires are drawn to playing games it is probably nothing to do with his/her intelligence.

I'd look at most puzzles as being a question of creative thinking or three dimensional visualization. The ability to look at a problem in different ways or for different solutions. That to me is a big part of intelligence. I just don't think that 'vampires' have more of it.

I believe the intelligence issue would depend on the individual, needless to say.

As I do not want to restart the dabate over the mythical and the modern vampire, I woud say that the puzzle question would have to boil down to the person themselves.

But take note: Just because you like solve puzzles doesn't make you intelligence. it makes a keen problem solver, maybe, if you are reall good at it.

I am not sure that intelligence has much to do with it.

See now I think creative thinking and good problem solving skills are a sign of intelligence. I don't leave intelligence strictly in the book smarts realm. However, one could show great aptitude for creative problems solving and still be foolish or naive...but I don't think that makes them less intelligent...simply less experienced or less educated.

I will agree to that in part. I would say that the capacity for intelligence can be seen in problem solving. But there are a lot of very stupid people with a very high capacity for intelligence. Or maybe stupid is not the right word I should ignorant.

1st just wanted to say great post..I go for the games and never thou of it tillnow to... And to come to think of it all ways of been go at them to. I don't know if it is becaues of that or what but great ?
.....xxx....

Actually, i think that the brain inhibits the mind... vampires (among others), for various possible reasons, are frequently less suseptable to that. The human brain (personal hypothesis) regulates thought into, not nessesarily advantagous paradigms. The mind, because it is part of the soul and not the body, is less constrained by physical limitations.

Logic is not intelligence as far as I am concerned. A computer is very logical, no-one conciders them intelligent. When a computer can "think" outside of it's programing (not just extrapolate) then it may be concidered intelligent.

Even an erroneous idea could springboard to a truth you would not conceive of without the false concept having facilitated it.

Vampires tend to concider more alternatives than mundanes, thus I suggest that they are more intelligent.
(many of the people on this forum are not vampires, I would not concider them mundane)

(fuckit, i am too tired to spellcheck...LOL
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(PS- I should really make a new thread... I appologies for OT thoughts)

Damn, that was supposed to be "my" appologies... or I "appologize"... changed horses in midstream, I did.

another thing that id like to add is that many people have different skill levels, but i dont see how that has to do with intelegence at all just a lot of practice!!!

Being a vampire myself, i think its true.... I love to untangle knots in necklaces or laces and can sit for hours undoing them . even puzzles... especially mind games

my favorite mind game freaking people out by playing games and or jumoing out at them so much fun i do it to my mother at least ounce a day

Yes, I was going to make a comment about experience too. Experience + Intelligence = options. Then we have the problem of free will... LOL.

There is also a gift called limited infalibility, which is a tapping into the devine: inspiration, epiphany... art etc; it is not intelligence, as it does not come from ourselves... either our mind or our brain.

My other thought was the fictional vampire having lost their soul... if they have lost their soul then they must have lost their mind... perhaps they are using demonic reflection of soul and mind?

Kglitterous - While I admire your spirit, I cannot agree to the idea that vampires are somehow better problem solvers or creative thinkers because they are more in tune with their mind and less hampered by their brain. As I've said, had that been the case, I don't think they'd have so recently chosen to use the word vampire to describe themselves and thus face the onslought of prejudice and negative press that comes with the moniker...or on the highly unlikely possibility that one believes the myths to have been influenced by ancient real vampires, one would have thought that those ancient 'problem solvers' would have worked out a faster way to dampen those negative prejudices other than waiting a few thousand years and starting some vampire societies in the goth scene.

animal instincts tactics mind games are gud

while i do love puzzles and brain teasers, i can't say that its an uncontrolable urge to finish but who knows everyone is different mabye there are people who feel this need to finish

Well I'm not a vampire or anything but I sure do love doing puzzles and I usually don't stop until I have finished them. And I have heard the same thing for vampires and counting things like rice and having to untangle fish nets and certain things. I wasn't sure if they were false or not and I also heard that they are fast counters at like lightening speed so I don't know if that statement would be true or not. But it's an interesting thought.

Great post karnstein! This is a very interesting topic! I have been diagnosed as slightly obsessive compulsive! If I start something, I must finish it! I don't really know if that would be a vampire trait or not tho! I tend to want to believe that would be more of a normal human thing! I mean vampires are more about the hunt wether it be for food or energy, I just see that as being their main focus! Maybe they were obsessive compulsive when it came to those things! I don't think rice or net could distract them from that!

Vampires are known to have OCD. Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. There are different types. And this type falls into place of a lot of stories and folklores as you have mentioned 2. It is an interesting fact.

I myself cannot stand not to finish anything I start. It becomes I guess you could say an obsession. Wheather it is reading a book, doing a puzzle, playing a game or etc... I will strive to do my best and not to finish is defeat in my eyes. I believe everything you attempt or start to do should be finished.

It is an interesting thought. I myself am overly obsessed with puzzles, riddles and trying to figure out the impossible outcome. The difference is I wont get involved in it if it is simply dropped in front of me. Only when one interests me and I start in on it do I become overly obsessed with finishing it above everything else around me. Getting all the knots out of a rope isn't something I have to do because it is there...if I am so inclined to take up the task as a choice then I do HAVE to finish it.

Yeah, I have to agree with being a bit OCD. I can be quite obsessive about things, and I do enjoy a challenge and puzzles/games. So perhaps there is a bit of truth in the "counting spilled rice and untangling fishing wire" myths...

Which brings to mind that I have come to realize in the last few days (since I became a member here)... the challenge to raise yourself in status on this site, though said status has no impact on my real life, is a maddeningly addictive one...

i like puzzles as much as the next vamp. although if given the choice of biting some hot guy...i'd totally go for the guy! but thats just me... i never did understand those old wives tales...a group of my frineds who are vampires used to test out the wives tales. they never found any that really where true. i think they were just told, and practiced, by the supersitious peoples of old. everyone needs a sense of being safe from what they fear, and these people feared vampires. thus the telling of the old wives tales.

I thought and had always heard that it was witches that sat and counted grains of rice, and that it was death that liked to play games...

im more partial for the virgin than the rubicx cue...but hangman and monoploy is fun

I can relate to the ocd thing.

I have a slight case of OCD, but I don't believe that Vampires are OCD, I heard that tale regarding something else. I don't recall what at the moment.
I can't sit still long enough to do all those things.

I have never really thought about it.. but yeah, I guess I do seem to obsess over puzzles... I am very deteremined and don't give up until I have figured it out!!

Hmmmm,it would explain a fasination for video games and such and the Cube??an evil invention to be sure,be well

I take more on challenges, if someone challenges me to do something its like ya better watch out because here she goes! lol..

Hah those are some amusing stories.I'm not sure if they're real or hold even a sliver of truth but it certainly makes the vampires seem like obsessive people. Almost caring in a strange way.

yes i have gone for certain puzzles and get very frustrated if i can not solve them. as in like you said the rubik's cube. but eventually got it and then was bored with it.

I would go for the puzzle but if I couldnt do it quickly I would get fustrated and probbly leave it alone for a bit.

Well I never put allot of thought into till you brought this up. I love a good puzzle and wont stop till i have it figured out. I have been known to sit for hours or even days obsessing on its outcome lol

Kudos to Indigo for posting one of the more insightful posts on this topic.

Totally ignored.

I for one am going to leave here and go rate a few more whelps, play some hangman and message a few more people.

Don't see the relevance to the topic? Perhaps one should stop and consider one's actions. So many pretty, pretty levels... more powers... more people

Very pretty....

Is it OCD or is it the fact that it is folk lore i mean i am OCD and very picky about things but when buisness is at hand you take care of it then move on not to say that a great mind game or puzzle is not good every now and then too But i think it is more of an urge to learn and keep the mind stimulated

Its just a myth...all though I do like to count things. But it will not stop me from doing other things.

ok let me justsay that as a kid inschool if the teacher hadsomething thatwastangled they braught it to me because iusually was able toget it undone in a matter of a few mins
iam bossed with games and puzzles
but iam not ocd

i beleive that it was the proplr thinkning of something to comfort themselfves.
itjust sounds like this myth gave birth tothe count of seasame street lol

good topic to get poeple thinking

While I don't truly have an opinion about whether or not the OCD thing with vampires and games/counting is true or not, I do find it of an absolute interest that so many of us that find ourselves enmeshed in this lifestyle display this same characteristic. It really is of no surprise that we would share not only this but also other traits. Go figure, right? It would lead one to wonder exactly what other traits would be found to be most predominant within the vampire/goth community, psychological and otherwise. I, for one, would be very interested in knowing these.

I don't have any particular fondness for puzzles and such . . . as a matter of fact, most puzzles I hate . . . then again, I'm just a Psychic Vampire. Maybe there's a difference between the two kinds of Vampires?

I used to spend hours trying to get the rubiks cube right, but I have never heard of these myself, the only thing that I have ever heard is that a Vampire cannot enter a home unless he or she has been invited in.

I haven't done games in years except on here with the rp and thats about it

I also have an obssession with puzzles, be it jigsaw, words, video games or otherwise. I have to spend as much time as possible on it until it is completed. I have always been this way.
And I too saw the vampire episode of the x-files...funny...a vampiric pizza delivery guy! Cool.

I like this thread....first one in a while that made me look at this crazy game room of mine, Im so into puzzles and games I actually converted a room in my house for it......hmmmmmmm

is this thread still running? i thought it would have closed ages ago. what have i started? i just took a bit of folk lore, and updated it to modern concepts - and seems i opened a whole new can of worms. the obsessive compulsive disorder idea is quite fascinating, and seems to have struck a chord with so many people. the idea of a vampire being distracted from his prey by a carelessly discarded sudoko puzle is definetely an idea hollywood should follow up on.

Wow i found this Thread Highly interesting as All my life Ive loved puzzles and Things that have given me a challenge! I usually pursue something until I have completed it as well or had Success! I am not happy unless I have done so or know why i cannot complete such a task and it is usually not my fault or beyond my control or I am not skilled or knowledgable enough yet for it! and then I Go and seek out the info and go back to it so i can succeed! Great Thread thanks for Posting!

This is something similar to a conversation I was having about ten minutes ago. I can be obsessive about puzzles and problem-solving activities and do spend far too much time on these activities so it's interesting that you've brought up the idea of it actually being in a vampire's nature to do such things.

I too and am highly OCD as well as being an insomniac. This is a good combination. I can not start something without finishing it and doing it to a T and if I don't think it's perfectly done, I will tear it down and start again. I do believe this is the way a true vampire would react.

I beleive that everyone has a little OCD in them and there are curtain things we just gey stuck on. But like I said before I have always loved puzzles and trying to figure things out. At times it gets to be so much though because I wont stop till its solved lol

Great topic Karnstein. Its just too bad that so many people on this site took what you were saying and went a whole other direction with it. I find the Folklore of vampires fascinating to read about. Not saying I would ever think that they are a reality. Just like I never really considered Vlad Dracul to be a vampire. And I sure as hell don't think we are immortal or can fly. But To think about this OCD and spending countless hours on an object is something that alot of us seem to do. It is very relaxing to figure out that puzzle or spend 18 hours on a video game.

I even tend to spend hours upon hours when i get into the string of it just researching things. Thank you for posting this. And I thank everyone who actually stayed on topic here as well.
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...strange wouldnt they rather bite ane take blood then play a game??

Oh yeah I did many a time in the 80's with the Rubiks cube...I still do puzzles...now they are video game based.

I do love mind games... but I cannot say that I am compulsive about it.

I think they could. I see a lot of vamps getting hooked on hangman lol.

Lol very true I must say. Obsessed on getting those favors.

It's now 04:22 in the morning and I have just spent the last four hours at europoker.com assimilating people's play money reserves.

Forget the rice grains and the riddles, if you really wish to be safe, place a laptop with any type of poker software installed in front of your bedroom door and you'll have at least one creature of the night less to worry about ^^

I hate to tell you but not all vampires are OCD.....I am bipolar and dont feel the need for the tangled web or the rice, even though I do love puzzles on my leisurely time but only leisurely...

On the topic of old folklore, which I'm well familar with. It is said yes, Vampires are "drawn" to puzzles and games. I personally don't believe it's true. I do not consider myself a vampire. I study the history, and the culture of vampirism because vampires have fasinated me sense I was very young.

These things, puzzles, and games...other folklore...The garlic....the crosses...it all adds up. None of these things really work, it's all hollywood induced fantasy. Yes, these things come from a basis of truth old romanian folklore.

I'm more of a Video game person myself. Wasted many hours playing RPG's and such.

- Sin

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