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Great question. I think both. True vampires are born that way. They had no choice. Bt, a person who wants to engage in the lifestyle may do so at any time.

But, aren't both the same? If someone embraces the vampire lifestyle, aren't they a vampire? I think both are a choice and mutually exclusive within each other.

it is a good question..agrees with Trivia though, why cant there be both? I know I was born that way, seems my lil demonspawns were born that way also..

But if one truly embraces the vampiric lifestyle, doesnt see a reason for them to be labeled new

I think were all born this way it just takes time for some and others never realize what there potential can be all there lives.

I think they are mostly the same, except for one thing, choice.

A “true vampire” had no choice in the matter. A “new vampire” chose that lifestyle. Doesn’t this mean they can also turn away from a vampiric life if they so desire? Or is it something that binds you for life? Educate me? Anyway, a “true vampire” is stuck, no matter what. Not to make stuck sound bad, I am just at a loss for a better word.

True vampires may of been born with it, but a 'new' vampire basically decided to explore themselves and they have unlocked a whole new side of them that they didn't know was there.


However, if a 'new' vampire gets too used to living and taking in energies and or blood, they might find that they develop cravings like a true vampire would. They, in my opinion, become a true vampire, but not from birth- by choice.

This extended existence and all it brings can be addictive, as with anything of this nature, such as magick and even meditation. If one gets used to a certain state and they thoroughly enjoy it, they might find that they need to satisy that state in order to maintain balance.

New vampires true vampires they are both the same thing... a better question would be true vampires and fake vampires...

i think it can be both. some are born that way. and all there lives knowing there is a dark calling. and then some i call have a an awaking to the fact.

great point.

but a born vampire would be i think one who would have lived with gifts since birth. and probley be aware of some of the gifts since then. and a new one i think would not.

I think both can be correct as well. Some people may all of a sudden feel compelled to learn of a vampire's ways and incorporate them into their own lives, while some have been vamps since birth.

I think that Vampires are born Vampires. But you might be a Vampire and not know it for a while then realize it later in life.

a little of column a, a little from columb b. some vampires arent awakened till later in life. call that what you will, but i think thats how it usually goes.

you dont see many vampire toddler childes around these days.

I think vampires are born that way.

I have to agree with RavenKnight. Real versus fake. And, are we just calling ourselves this name to romanticize what we have always done?

Lady Trivia, wise words indeed.

I know that I may have been bron a vamp, and while signs were there early on, I didn't fully realize my potential until later in life

I think they were born with the potential, but they have to decide to embrace it or not at some point in their lifetime.

I think that you are born with that potential... being a vampire... or, at some point, you can choose some lifestyle...
Some of the true vamps haven't had the chance of deciding, but I did... I wanted this to happen to me...

i think that rue vampires like myself are born that way..the new vampires get turned or make up there mind to be a vamp..

true vampires don't really have a choice r born that way and don't realize their full vampiric form or abilities till later in life............new vampires are people who get bitten by true vampires and turn into one but they don't have all the vampiric abilities a true vampire does...also they don't know how 2 control their half-vampiric form

I believe it is both as well. Some are born to it and its something out of their control. Others want it and make themselves one. They make a choice where as a true vampire hasn't.

i belive it is both as well, i mean i was born with a loving for darkness, and natural fangs , i swear people think they are fake lol

Cryingmoon, its probably because some in society rather believe that vampires don't exist so therefore they easily dismiss your claims of being a true vampire. Perhaps they fear their sanity will cave in if they find out that there is more to the world than the black and white they wish to see.

I think of it like religion. Take the Christian belief. Some are born into the religion, while others, whose parents were Pagan or some other religion, chose to follow it. That doesn't make them any less of a Christian.

we are a new vampire now when we die we will become true vampires that's just how i put it bascily you feel stuff in your neck so your a vampire. new vampire so when you die you can be true vampire if god don't take you you will be a vampire but if he does then you will be a little angel and watch over kids women and even men

I am just wondering why you would have to turn to the "dark" side of things to be a vampire? I don't think we are evil any more then a "normal" person is.

A manifestation of a mental illness is unlikely to occur after a certain in age in life is reached. I would think the same can be said for vampires

Man let me be the one to open a thread like this some of the admin and other members would jump all over me. but hey ok here go's A born vampyre or pure blood they are what they are just that, A vampyre! They can never change who or what they are yet we do try!
one who is awakened is now and forever vampyric and that is that! they may wish they can un-do what was done but it can't be done. they will forever need to pull energy or blood it is what they have become in the end the hunger will win!

...To be truly honest, I think that if you're parents aren't vampires, I doubt you can be...I think it's a born trait only.

The others, I think they take on the lifestyle only...Although if were going off the myths, you can be "turned"...

Wow some great responses to my thread! It is very interesting to read what all of you have written. *smiles*

LordOfNoctemAeternus - Why do you think the admin's would be all over you with a thread like this? lol, you can message me that later if you'd like ;)


HellaciousRose- I agree with your post, that your parents probably do have much to do with if you are a vampire or not, but I'm sure it could go both ways. Or, someone could be a vampire and their grandparents were vampires, but not their parents. In other words the vampiric blood skipped generations? If that makes any sense...

dragonspawn- I think you are right about the "evil" ness of being a vampire. Just because one is a vampire, does not mean that they have to turn to the dark side or be evil in ways. ;)

Sorry I could not respond to all of you, I will post more later. :)

i believe that someone has to be born a vampire in order to be one...but then again there is the whole biting and swapping blood to become one

New Vampires...hmm, makes me think of hippies. A temporary movement that works for some of the masses at the moment. In a decade they'll be driving mini-vans lol... (maybe that was a bit harsh *sorry*)

Born Vampires...Well, that pretty much says it all! Leopards don't change spots, snakes don't skydive and once a vamp always a vamp. But, hey, I don't believe that all vampires are evil.

WastedLife - it was interesting that you say it is like a religion. I can definitely understand your point of view.

dantearmy666 - I said this (pretty sure) in the beginning of this forum that I was born a vampire. I did not choose this, but the darkness has always been something I have been drawn too ever since I was little. So, I agree with what you said. You of course, this does not mean I must be an evil person, but that I relish in the vampiricness I guess you could say lol.

XxHellKaisersAngelxX - biting and swapping blood... isn't that more of folklore than anything else? I mean of course there is the biting, but swapping blood doesn't necessarily "change" one into being a vampire *shrugs* , just questioning is all.

TheCryingDutchess - hippies, new temporary movement, ... I had to laugh when you said this just because sometimes I believe this to be true with some people. If you are saying that they "pretend" to be this way because it seems like it is a fad right now or something to that extent, I understand where you are coming from. And then where will those "hippies" be when the fad is over? lol. Driving mini vans LOL. Thanks, I needed that.

Great feedback!! :)

Interesting question. I don't believe that people are born "Vampires." I think they may grow into the Vampiric lifestyle. I love the lore of Vampires, but I believe that only psychic vampires exist. If there were true "Lestat" type Vampires, why aren't we all Vampires now??? I'd take the bite! No Vampire has come to change me, or even feed. So, no new ones. True, being the Psychic ones.

Great question. Well if some one became the way they are as a chose its not in their desterny < if i spelt that right. Sorry bad at spelling. But for some one barn as one they have no option its in their destorny its their fait. So i beleave that to me a vampire its got to me in your desterny to be one

I both in both as well . Some don't even know they are Vampryes till much later in life . And some never find out at all . So it doesn't matter if you've choosen this life or if your born in it .

I do not think that wether you choose to practice this life style or you were born with it mattters. If one chooses it then I think that that person was always like that, they just hadn't been woke up so to speak. If someone had always found this fascinating and they were practicing it at an early age then they were probably born knowing.

ChartreuseDreams - your idea of reincarnation is interesting... So, I guess the next question would be, why would someone or how would someone be reincarnated into a vampire? Since, the vampiric lifestyle is not really considered totally evil or good, what category does it fall under? hmm...

I read some articles from the website (house Kheperu) last night and was very intrigued by what I found. So much so, that I bought the book "Psychic Vampire Codex" as well! Hopefully this will help to quench my thirst for the knowledge I so desire of the vampire kind.

However, the House Kheperu website is not based on "truth" persay. In their belief statement (on the home site) it states that all of their articles,etc. are based on theoretical evidence. Although it is interesting to read, I'm still skeptical as to where the truth actually lies.

i agree with lavisbre we are all born that way but we dont notice our potential untill we know of it and feel it eventually

I believe that you can't just start doing vampiristic things and call yourself a vampire. I belive vampires are an ancient form of demons, not just some person that claims to like blood and looks a little pale. Also, you can't just be born a vampire, unless you have that disease that makes you loose all of your red blood cells. That disease (can't remeber the name of it right now) was commonly mistaken as vampirism because back then they neeeded to drink blood to get enough red blood cells so they coould survive. Now they have treatments for it and stuff. That, I feel, is the only way you can be born a "vampire'.

Mostly that disease is syphylus. In the third stage of it, you loose your red blood cells, pigmentation of the skin dies out leaving you pale, and the calcium in your teeh wears thin making for fang-like teeth. This was the most common reason behind certain outbreaks of panic over vampires in many cities throughout the world. That is, until they gave it a name and discovered that it was a disease.

ChartreuseDreams - I want to thank you again for being so extremely helpful to me and to other people reading this forum! :) You have brought much helpful information to the table.


blackenedXXXrose8293 - "I believe that you can't just start doing vampiristic things and call yourself a vampire.I belive vampires are an ancient form of demons..." I agree with you, in the first sentence. But to call ALL vampires demonic? That may be a bit harsh, but I'm not going to go against any one person's beliefs. If that is what you believe so be it. I do not consider myself to be a demonic being.

WastedLife - Thank you for giving the input on the name of that disease for us. Syphylus. Good information. :)

I think that there are both new and true vampires. I must admit, that i am a new vampire. There is something appealing to such a lifestyle.

in my opinion some may get mad... but new or old theres always a higher belief or ways of showing ect ect from one to another whether new or old it counts if you dont play with it. if u like it be true dont let it be a phase for a week. think about it, if there is a true vampire which there is, they dont brag about them selves or make them selves be seen

I also agree with Trivia. If anyone born a certain way embraces a different lifestyle and lives his/her life according to that lifestyle choice, then they ARE part of that lifestyle. For example, vampires, gays, Christians, etc. Any lifestyle really.

i didn't read the responces but it's probly jus me but i think u can do both, ur held at a higher status being born a vampire but turning is ok too

kandyvamp thank you for responding to the forum, and not to get too off topic here, but wouldn't it be a little bit too extreme to put gays, christians, and vampires into the same type of category?

If someone is a homosexual, I highly doubt that they just woke up one day and "decided" to be a part of that lifestyle. Most homosexuals are born that way... Christians, well you're not "born" a Christian or any kind of religion. One can be taught a religion when they are born or brought into a religion when they were born, but you're not born Christian.

Getting back to the subject at hand, as far as vampires go, I believe that yes there are both true and new vampires.

I really think that it could go both ways. Or maybe new vampires have aways been vampires but just don't realize until later in life. I just made myself have to rethink my post lol

lol no worries blueblood! I understand what you mean. And that poses another question. So, if one is considered to be a New vampire, is it because it is new to their current way of life and it is just a lifestyle change,

OR

is one a new vampire because they have came to a realization that they have always been a vampire.. hmmm..

I'm pretty sure both can happen... those who are bitten and those who were born with vampiric parents... I kind of feel sorry for the "true" vampires, as you put it. They don't have a choice, they're born with a need that they probably never wanted... I'm not putting them down, I'm just saying, they better hope they want it.

Yes I do feel an empathy for the "true" vampires... However, if they are born as a vampire, then they do not know any different.. So, I would imagine they would crave what they have been born with. I'm sure that thinking changes as they grow to realize there is more out there and others are different than them.

i think it depends on how we are brought up what different life styles that are shown to us at an early stage

Actually I think vampires are "chosen", but they don't choose to be vampires. The real "true" vampires do the choosing of those who will become new vampires.

hmm, I think chosen is a good word here. Although there have been many people saying that one can decide to be either or at any time. I believe that a lot of it is that someone IS chosen to be a particular way when they were born. This rational could be taken from many different perspectives. People that are born with their parents being doctors have more likely of a chance of being a doctor rather than a construction worker because of their upbringing, accessibility, and personal experiences because of the family already familiar in that area of study. So it would make sense that vampires who are born vampires would also be the same way.

A true vampire is born into the lifestyle while a new vampire is aquiring this lifestyle. Hope that helps a little.

In my opinion a true vampire is born that way but they may not be awakened until sometime later in life, some not at all. A "new" vampire may simply be one that was just awakened or they could be someone that has chosen the lifestyle. I dont believe that all that chose the lifestyle are true vampires. One that simply choses the lifestyle is less likely to be a psychic vampire, be adversely affected by the sun or get the same benifit from blood.

Although I appreciate everyone's opinions on this subject, I'm still not sure how I feel about people that have just "joined" the lifestyle and consider themselves to be vampyres...

I agree with what wolvie says. Even though I started out this thread asking if people believe in the "new vampire", I myself do not simply because I do not think one can simply just start to be something and then call themselves a vampyre... I think that vampyres are born that way and they either choose to use it or not if they know that they are indeed a vampyre. For those who are blind to their vampyricness, and then find out about it later in life, I think they would be called the real NEW vampyres...

I personally do not believe in the "true" vampire, in the fashion that it is being defined in this thread.

I do not believe that vampires are born or turned- I think a "new" vampire would be a person who involves certain beliefs into their lives within society, rather than caliming that they are supernatural.

I never said that the true vampire was "supernatural"... not sure where you saw that posted here. However, I DID say that the true vampire was an individual who was born with the lack of that certain substance (energy, blood, etc.) and need to feed off of others in order to obtain that.

No, I didn't mean that you said that in particular, I was just suggesting that this certain definition is subjective to that sort of belief.

I personally think that everyone has a relatonship with the world and the environment where we learn to take certain elements in order to grow as people, but this often comes with a lot of preconceptions in itself, and that is my true interpretation of some beliefs into the concept of vampirism- if you follow me?

Echo, I understand what you are saying and I agree that some people would take the vampire to mean only "supernatural and ficticious" beings.

And I also agree that everyone is connected with the world in one way or another as well as being connected with people. However, when one is a vampyre or vampire, they were born with a "lack" of a certain vital source whether that be blood, energy, etc. And that is why I have defined vampyre/ire the way I did.

And I think what you are getting at is that you think that some people say they are vampires because they feel they have some kind of "special" connection to the world which others may not and that you disagree with that.... Let me know if I'm in the same ballpark here. lol

Hmm well vampires are born vampires and have no choice, at least in my belief. All vampirism is the taking of a life source of a human such as their energy or blood. The only way I can think that a "new vampire" would arise is they are taking another life source. its unlikely but possible.

Rayden - you said that if one took another life source... so which one are you speaking of?

Furthermore, you have an interesting take on the thread, you think that "new" vampires meaning that they take from a "new" life source other than what the true vampire would take from. Am I correct on what I am interpreting?

i don't think it matters as long as you reach the same place!

poesraven - "i don't think it matters as long as you reach the same place!"

I apologize, but your post was somewhat vague... What exactly are you speaking about?

What doesn't matter? The means of how vampires/pyres obtain their sustance? And I'm not sure about what you mean as far as "reaching the same place" Please explain in more detail. Thank you! :)

I've never heard of this. Someone please send me a message and explain it to me. I find it rather interesting. Thank you.

Dnamra - there is nothing really to explain it was simply a question that I have put out there for discussion. If you read the entire thread, I'm sure that will give you more than enough information for what you are desiring to know. ;)

Thanx V25! I was having a hard time writing out what I was thinking but ya that was what I was trying to get at. lol

as for what i think you eather were borne a vampier or not. as far as our ways yes i think they have changed to go with the times eather we will change with the times or we will die that is how i see it

So you do you think that a born vampire might not realize until later in life that they are a vampire?

yes and no for me i have always knowen but for others they might have a idea but then push it aside it tends to be on that persion if they acept what they are the sighns are alweays there they just need to know what to look for

To answer your question blueblood, yes definitely! I am an example of that question. For many years I was unaware of my vampiric tendencies until I was awakened to that fact. So, I have more control over what I naturally do.

And BTW you're welcome! lol anytime. ;)

Both. Some were born with the dark quality, and others weren't so fortunate. However they choose it later either from the external or internal appeals of the culture.

i think they are both.

I agree they could possibly be both.

Hmm..good question. I was born a vampire but I do find some others being turned by vampires. It's a painful ordeal, i wouldn't recommend it.

For people who chose to follow vampires i find that the ones i've met, are generally ones who lyk different things to other mortals and they sometimes prefer their own company, unless it is with other mortal-vampires or vampires.

A vampire is a vampire to me...

I would have to agree that it is both. You are either born as a vampire or you choose to become one.

I am not sure how to answer. Though I enjoy blood it's not a need for me and therefore I don't consider myself a vampire, though I may live part of the life style.

I really dont like the way you have worded this a vampire nessacery doesnt have to be dark and i beleave if you are a vampire you are born one and if you later in life randomly turn into one it is because your spirtual side has grown enough to support your vampire side

One either is or is not a vampire.And choosing one's lifestyle is all a matter of choice.and we all have one.One can either choose to dress the part or choose not to.

Given what I've heard as a description of the modern living vampire, you must be one from time immemorial. Your 'soul' is what has always been a vampire and you are awakened to your state of being in one life or another.

I know that makes less political correctness for someone who wants to believe they can be one but doesn't think they are one and that to answer maybe would be more nice. That's a bummer...but saying both implies that we can all become one and that goes against the ideas that have been put forth before. If true, then vampirism is more of a cult of mind and less of an incarnation of being.

so far, i have never met a "new" vampire that doesn't sound like an idiot that believe in hollywood ways. So, until i meet one that's "new" and doesn't say, "omg. i need a new coffin and i'm gonna suck ya blood and blah" i'm sticking with the true theory.

I believe that it comes down to choice. Some people find the lifestyle to their liking sooner than others, or perhaps feel something missing from their life and try things until they find what is missing. To those who feel that the vampire lifestyle completes them, I would catagorize them as true. Others who only follow the lifestyle because they like it or to try and fit in with a particular crowed for whatever reason would be catagorized as new. In the end however it was a choice for both groups of individuals on whether or not they wanted to follow that path once they realized what it all meant to them

I think that true Vampires are born that way.

I think a true vampire is a person that can not go into the sun, has to drink blood to stay alive and they live forever, a new vampire is a person who has decided to become a vampire by doing what a true vampire has to do...

I never new that u could be awakened until last night I always thought u had to be born a vampire

True vampires are born as such. It isn't till later in life, like early teen years, that the awakening takes place and the symptons start to show themself. True vampires are like any other person, we just lack the Chi engery a normal human possesses and therefore have to feed either on other's engery or blood to gain the chi we lack.

"New" vampires are people who either are wannabes that have seen too many Hollywood movies. Or people who just have simular feelings and interests as true vampires and decide to go with the vampiric lifestyle.

True vampires being born as such, have a choice like those who seek the life style to engage in it. IT is all a choice, what we do, how we do it.

So it is irrelevent in that setting seeing as it is a matter of perspective. However, I am a mage, who engages in practices of predatory spiritualism to continue advancing, It seems that anyone who makes the choice to a part of any society no matter how much of a fringe member they may be, they are still part of that society regardless.

I believe in both. But I consider new vampires as practical new souls (I believe in reincarnation, so basically I'm saying souls that have just desided in this life to make the change). I think everyone in this world has different aged souls and I consider the true vamps to be the ancient souls that have been around for centuries and in every life are vampires.

But that's just my opinion XD, but I'm not completely sure if it's a choice or not. I've heard that most vampires awaken when they hit puberty, but I was forcefully awakened against my will when I was a child. I've also heard that it has to be a quality of the soul for there to be any chance of you becoming a vampire at all. There are so many opinions out there >.

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