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All throughout history,there have been accounts of levitation.Some say it is possible,and evidently it is to an extent.But ,is it magnetics? Magic,or trickery?
Any thoughts on how it is accomplished?
Are the same forces in science being accessed through magic?
Magic carpet ride anyone?

I think it became possible by the invention of wires, and riging.

I've never looked much into Levitation...So far from what I've seen...it is mostly just wires and people trying to make a living hah.

I was always under the impression that levitation was linked to enlightenment and the near shedding of the mortal body and rising above a frame of mind...

Haha yes,I do agree that wires and rigging,account for prolly most .
So you do not feel it could be accomplished by other means?

Right,this has long been practiced by Buddists etc..
Possibly it is metaphoric too.

I know two people that can levitate. But nothing like in this video. They can only lift a couple inches off the ground.

I think that mostly it is all just an illusion . However there are instances befor rigging and wires that are recorded in history .

You have really seen them do it DC? Would you mind sharing some details with us? Prettyplease?.An eyewitness account here would be awesome!
And yes,I have been able to trace this fairly far back,before riggings and ropes,so you are correct in that 2007S.
Sadly,when it comes to magics there are always going to be fakes,I am not speaking of true illusionists,who proudly,and rightly so, declare their act as illusion.But because of the ones who try to pull the wool over,they really kindof lead everyone to look at the whole thing through Jaundiced eyes.When in fact there really could be some who might be able to do it.who knows.

Yes I have actually seen it and I thought they were messing me and I checked the bottoms of there shoes and looked around for wires . I had them move over a little way and do it again. It was cool. It was my brother in law and a friend of mine. I was kinda shocked.

Wow,I would be too.Thats kool.Did they happen to do anything beforehand? Anything that would be considered magic or chanting or ...anything?

Just like meditation a relaxation thing i suppose

There are some levitation illusions that'll work without wires or rigging.

yeah i have heard that.. It could have been an illusion of some sort. Just dont really know how they did it.

I believe some levitation to be magic but most is done as an illusion

I found a few links with some wonderful thought provoking material on levitation that i thought i would share

link one
Here is another one link 2
And lastly i found this one rather nice readingthird link

BTW, that video is easily debunked. Just watch this guys shoulders. They're quite stable. So the pull applied by the rigging attaches somewhere between or slightly below his shoulder-blades.
And why do you think this takes place at night surrounded by a ring of fire?

Those are great,thank you 200zs.

2007S.is what I meant...posted too soon.

And thats one thing Ive been looking into also,is if the egyptians used some form of levitation to move great stones.There are in fact some ways it could've been done,but I will never discount anything if it has even a remote chance of provomg itself out.

levitation is an old way of using both magic and trickery in my oppinion.i think that levitation is done by magic of the mind over matter and using trick wires.those who can use mind over matter are real levitators and then there are people who use wires for the spectators.

I believe that Science is magic.

Science uses all sorts of chemicals right
Now with magic we use the same things we just call them powders,oils and potions...
That is my way of looking at it

Took a short look at the first link...
Those fabrications should be read carefully.
Example: Coral Caste build of 1000 tons of rock. "Heavy coral rock"? Granite's heavy, coral's not! Not to mention the fact that the "mystery of coral castle" obviously not baffled scientists and engineers. As someone once stated "has not been explained" is not the same as "can not be explained"...

Levitating by sonics? Well, that's theoretically possible by creating a layer of suppressed air. But not without blowing the levitated object to smithereens... Somewhat similar to levitating by dynamite.

Anything is possible, scientists have been able to levitate a frog, although that was with the right physics involved. Who knows maybe certain humans have a dsitinct physical makeup where they can levitate with the help of magnetics from the earth.

I happen to agree with you on that vid. Sarra.AS a matter of fact,so far,all that I have found as far as vids can be.Not only that,I found one which made me laugh pretty hard.I'll share that .Do they really expect to pass bouncing across a matt as levitation?
I am inclined to believe that true levitation would be accomplished by either magnetics and or by acoustical means.
And we do have an eye witness account in DC. to consider.

Levitation can also be achived through the use of magnetics

Magnetics do play a role that is true

Unless you're talking about the "floating super-conducting disc" - how, exactly?

I dont know how it would be possible with out trickery of some sort. it has been said that it can be done by manipulating the energy around you but i just dont see how it could be.

Yes,Magnetics are and have been an established technology as far as levitation,for quite some time..for instance the Maglev. But do you think it possible that there might be due to something else?

There we run into the same problem. Which energy? Whatever it is, it has to interact with the gravitational field. Therefor it can be measured by that very interaction. Nothing of that sort has been measured. qed

very true and good point,SarraS.That seems to be the current problem .Hell ask those who worked on the flytrap technology.
Plus,we are really doing this in such a Minor scale as far as sound and magnetics right now,its,well hard to picture,but I dont believe its impossible.At least at some point in time.
But if these guys are really doing it,like DC saw,I wonder how?

I have been stumped

I have been stumped

You mean lifting a couple of inches off the ground. A rather easy illusion. I'm not very good at illusions but I can do that, too.
Next time a magican comes to your town, ask him. ;-)

Good night.

I think we all are,thats why it remains a mystery.. Any other ideas as to how it could be accomplished Sarras?

oh,I think I should point out while magnetics can levitate ,as far as I know, you can't suspend a stationary object in midair with permanent magnets. So it kindof puts magnetics out of the running as far as stationary levitation goes.Unless they were to use electromagnets that can be adjusted in strength ,in order to balance themselves.It isnt pheasible.

Wouldn't it be just Mystical and Liberating to be able to do this? But some how I really do believe that St Theresa, a couple a monks and the avatars of India don't use/d magnets. My opinion of course but I did have more than a few eyes watching me when I was chanting during my stay at the Himalayan Inst. I will not teach the method but I did "bold" for a reason.

Follow and practice the science of Yoga and you will be just fine. If you don't then it only becomes trivial anyways.

Thanks for the insight BillyTJ.

air pressure maybe? Its a thought

A good thought,but that one is not really doable either.The noise alone kinda does that one in wouldnt you agree?
And back then,they didnt have compressors and all that like we do today.

How about the spiritual side of this...any thoughts?

I think levitation is entirely possible. I think it is just a matter of being able to ignore the laws of physics that people are trained to believe. There is no limit to what the mind is capable of doing if you have control.

Do you really think we as humans can ignore those laws ?Or perhaps use those laws to our benefit?

And I agree with you in that the mind has the capability to do many things.

Ok I see your point it would be hard to ignore those laws but I think they can be used to our benefit. All the laws like that are man made creations it is a matter of knowing that and being able to let your mind know that to be able to rise above them.

I don't believe levitation is anything more than a trick.

I agree BB.I guess it would take a lifetime to learn to do that and a hell of alot of self discipline.

Sadly,thats true,alot if not most would have to be trickery of some kind,one reason being I really dont think most have the self discipline it would take to do such a thing.

I'd have to agree with the rigging, wires, and other such tricks.

i think its all because of 'special' effects.

Many believe that magic is just effects too.How do you feel about that?

I agree with most people here in saying that levitation is normally achieved through wires and rigging.
However, I think that we could do this without magic. If we could break free of our mind's set mold, maybe we could achieve something seemingly impossible like this.

I think levitation is more a thing of the mind, a spiritual thing then a magicla or science, its more of a mind over matter, it has been shown to be mostly done with the mind not some scientific mixture or some abracadra words.

Most of the levitation that u see is done by deception using wires. But there are actual cases were there were no wires and it was true levitation

I believe that some people can actually levitate through meditation but most of the levitation that is done in movies, I believe that it is fake.

I believe it is possible to achive levitation with the power of the mind.

Besides that, one can benefit from the help wich some astral creatures can give, if one can get in contact with them.

Other dirty trix can include wires of course, as seen before, and some others of wich I never heard.

I guess levitation can be called magic like many other things, and science is the precise mathematical way to explain those events in technical detail.

The shaman is nice at doing his thing, but far from achiving anything usefull, anything functional, and that could be applied with functional purpouse.

Interesting ritual though.

I like that point you brought up..
"Besides that, one can benefit from the help wich some astral creatures can give, if one can get in contact with them."
It would be interesting to see indeed.

I believe that if we were able to tap into the 90 % of our brain that we dont use it would be possible. I think anything would be possible if we could do that. I am just not sure it is possible and if we would even want to. Might just drive us crazy lol.

Perhaps that is exactly what some some of those guys are doing.Accessing parts of the brain that we normally just dont use.

Have never seen it happen. Has anyone actually seen it and been able to investigate?

i think that levitation has to do alot with playn tricks wit our minds jus like all magic sometimes though it does have to do wit science and magnets it jus depends on who does it

yes it can happen i have done so many times and with tv biend so expoided these day it is not hard to wonder why none of you actually think it is real it is based on how intuned you are to youself and what you want to experence you can do anything you set you mind and heart to really, when it comes to levitation you have to will it in your mind so strongely that it all you think about take out of body experences for example it is a form of levitation when it happens you drift off to different places in time and then come back and sometimes see yourself ascending back into the body so in my opinion only it is deffently real and not just staged ....

I think a lot of cases can be thanks to wires and such, but I do think some are true displays of magic. It would take immense concentration and skill in order to make it work though.

I believe that some people can really do it. Most cases I think are a form of trickery of the mind.

i know that you can make it through deep meditation...
remember that the mind has no limits...

Although I do believe magnetics could play a part in it. I think it has more to do with ones power of thier own mind. People with strong mental abilities or powers of telekinisis are the ones I think would be able to do this, in lifting themselves instead of something else.

The unknown , Is there anything else you can tell us about this . How you go about doing it , and rituals used to perpare ?

under the right conditions it's possible

i have no clue if its true or not, ive seen it on tv but i wont believe it tell i see with my own eyes..

Something to consider....

Davidson said that the results unambiguously showed that meditation activated the trained minds of the monks in significantly different ways from those of the volunteers. Most important, the electrodes picked up much greater activation of fast-moving and unusually powerful gamma waves in the monks, and found that the movement of the waves through the brain was far better organized and coordinated than in the students. The meditation novices showed only a slight increase in gamma wave activity while meditating, but some of the monks produced gamma wave activity more powerful than any previously reported in a healthy person, Davidson said.

info copped from:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43006-2005Jan2.html

Perhaps levitation isnt as impossible as one might think.I might add also,and this comes from a reliable source,that one reason we do not see real levitaions taking place.is because the ones who have advanced enough to even do such a thing would never do it in public as a stunt for curious eyes.It is a very special exercise and not one that one should show off.For any reason.

What ever reason would anyone want to levitate? Maybe to pull that book down from the top shelf, but it is easier to use a ladder. Those who are seen floating around off the ground are using illusion to make us think we see them levitating. If there are those who have the mastery of natural laws and forces at their command to float around, then I doubt we would be present as observers.

Thanks for that Occeane, I had heard of levitationists having increased brain wavy activity. I am of the belief that this can be done, as was posted in another thread. Mayhap this is one of the things that would be possible with the use of the 90% of our brain not being used.

Good thread. I am of the belief that levitation is a possibility. There have been documented accounts of this across the ages.

I know from personal experience that everything I have seen is trickery. I myself, know probably a half dozen or so ways to levitate, all are just illusions for enjoyment. Some are quite convincing and others not so much. Show me a way to levitate without some trickery, or at least some very convincing trickery, and I know how to make you a very rich person. ;)

I think it is more a mind over matter thing, but it can be magic related, but the kind of magic that is with wires and tricks.
Science, hum not really as science is mostly based on facts and logical most of the time. So this means leviation is illogical so cannot be related to science.

not sure here but i find it fascinating

What does anyone know about the casimir affect?

http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/l/levitation.html

There is also Ultrasonic levitation.

Paul Horn, using a Korg tuner, found that when he struck the coffer it registered the note A with a frequency of 440 cps. Dunn also discovered that when he struck the coffer it registered with a frequency of 438 cps and that the entire chamber was designed to amplify and resonate that frequency and octaves thereof. Dunn's matrix tuner was inferior to Horn's Korg tuner, and his 438 was close enough to Horn's 440. This has been confirmed by other researchers.

Another researcher, John Reid, an acoustic engineer stated that while he was lying in the coffer and vocalizing various tones he was staggered by the intensity of the reflected energy. He said "the effect of lying in the sarcophagus while toning its prime resonant frequency is almost like taking a bath. Waves of sonic energy wash over your body almost like water".

It does not appear that all this was accidental or incorporated for a ritual. It must have had a more important purpose. We agree with Dunn that these acoustic properties were deliberately built into the Great Pyramid in order to create a resonant chamber. Dunn also feels that this formed part of an energy plant (see Chris Dunn's research in our research section for more details).

Does this mean that the Ancient Egyptians knew how to do sonic levitation? At this time, all we can say is that from basic principles of sonic levitation, the structural design of the pyramid (especially the King's Chamber), and recent research in levitation - the possibility is there. Much more research needs to be done but this is an area that needs to be pursued.


Info copped from:http://www.gizapyramid.com/articles/levitation.htm

Found this one on YouTube. Reminded me of alien space craft stories. NASA was performing testing in an Acoustic Levitation Chamber.

Oceanne: The Casimir effect? As in Casimir plates and wormholes?

Here you go WB.This will explain it better than I can..

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/print/9747

That accoustic levatation video is awesome!

The video that started the thread appears to me to be a fake. Although, I do believe that levatation is possible. I have not seen it, but I do believe it can be done by the right people at the right time and place.

Rev. Ravyn

Yes,I think the dude in the first one is fake too.It is why I posted it.Honestly,if someone can actually do it,I really think they are far beyond having the need to show anyone.I have a feeling it comes down to being metaphoric in some sense.And if it is doable,they are tuning into freqs at 600htz somehow as far as acoustic means.
Here is levitation produced by ultrasound.

I feel evry thing in this world is made up out of both like the yig and yan both go hand and hand and work together to make this life and world what it is and what it can be.

I would have to say that for me, only the that levitation achived with the power of the human will, counts.

I agree. Any ideas on how it would be accomplished?

everyone has the power in them to accomplish anything and everything, you just have to free every part of your mind, and release all energy, im not saying that i can do it, but i have been able to break some barriers through meditation and concentration... so anything is possible.

oh you know kris angel knows how

Chris Angle is an magician/entertainer. Plain and simple.

I won't discount the possibilty of levitation being real, but I am skeptical. The first video especially did not impress me. Night, ring of fire, angle shots that could have been taken at different times and spliced together to make it seem real. The art of illusion has been finely manipulated by man for a very long time...

I will believe a person can levitate when I personally see it, and see it 1.) close up and 2.) from all angles.

I agree with you.

I agree with seeing is believing but my mind is open to every aspect of everything so maybe..

I think it's mostly trickery and illusion. Who knows though, maybe someone somewhere is capable of such things.

That is how I feel too.It could happen.

I think it has to do with a certain area of the brain. I believe that we are all capable of levitation. The problem is "turning on" that portion of the brain. I don't believe it is magic, or science.

Thazkool.

Reminds me of that scene in the Craft. "Light as a feather, stiff as a board".

I would have to agree with Frucissiere.

One needs to explore and free/unlock every part of ones mind, in order to recognise the totality of the Universe and its numberless possibilities.

The key is going deeper in to ones being, recognising the energie flows, and uniting them.

Fear should be disspelled, in order for the individual to see clearly, and of course, the complete process desires patience, wich is actually just a sign of ones will, wich is necessery for anything to be accomplished.

Leviation, and a full ability to fly is only one of the universes vast posibillities.

Universe is ritch in numberless ideas, and every single can be recognised.

The key lies in elevating ones mind/being on to the higher level.

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