I'v have always been intrigued by the werewolf. Lately I have been reading up on aparent sightings and news stories about the species and have read some pretty facinating and freaky stuff, but what i'm realy interested in is what others think of them. Do you think they're myth or legend, and whether you believe in the ancient curse of the lycan and whether you believe that things DO go bump in the night. If you would like to share your insight on sightings, historical stories and modern stories, or other info, please do.
I would love to know everything about them.
Look up Brey road. Or the Brey road beast. Its someplace in Southern wisconsin. I found it to be very interesting.
many sightings are out there, The beast of brey road was folklore going around and was made into a Hollywood tale. Stories of werewolves seem to slip about current sightings, yet I think a lot of it is based on truth of the imagination of the people. What they have saw or claimed to see. Things are still being discovered on this planet so there's always a chance.
I believe that a person can have some of the characteristics of a wolf. They may exhibit heightened senses of smell, instincts, etc. However I don't believe they mutate and change into part wolf - part human.
How does someone know what is is to be a werewolf? Some people that are new to this site wanting to know more about who they are may try to look here for answers.
How does one help them in this area?
(please explain in detail as your thoughts will help too)
I have heard of (and met) some people who feel they carry the 'soul' of an animal inside themselves, whether it be cat, dog, wolf, etc. As stated previously, these people have (or at least feel they have) the characteristics of said animal. I have not, however, heard anyone claiming to be an actual shifter, nor would I believe it if I heard it. While I cannot say it is impossible, I would say it is highly improbable. I think this could be an interesting thread, though. I am definitely looking forward to reading the different myths.
Many come to me looking for ones of their kind b/c my screen name is SummerWerewolf. I tell them that I'm not one but I am willing to be a friend.
Here's a link regarding the Michigan Dogman legend...just in case anyone wants to dig into it any further.
http://www.michigan-dogman.com/
well..
indeed i do believe in werewolves...
things go bump in the night, but not the way people think...
things move around during the night...
vampires and werewolves...
i do believe that during the full moon, the werewolf will become more and more drawn to feeding and sexual desire... even killing something... but transforming into a HUGE dog...
not really....
The links shared here have been very intresting indeed. Would love to here more.
Another thought: Any good info on what it means to be a werewolf?
I have heard of a disease called Clinical Lycanthropy, where a person believes they are changing into a wolf or some other animal....
here is a link to go learn about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_lycanthropy
Actually werewolves does indeed exist. The person suffers from a disease called Lycanthropy. Or Werewolfism. And the only group of people where this disease first stemmed from were the Irish. However, the fictional part comes in where they shapeshift into the wolf due to a full moon. That part isn't true. The first Irish settlers were used as slaves, and pets because of their tremendous strength, and superb servitude. If you do some research I am sure you will more information on this. This is the research that I have compiled so far.
So, if anyone finds out anymore information on this particular subject, please let me know.
i don't know if werewolves are real or just myth, but i think that there is the possibility of their existence and would like anyone with any proof one way or another to send me a message and show it to me
The term "lycan" came from the movie: Underworld. The reference for the term lycan describing the werewolf is a bit better to remember though. We here in Louisiana have a differant term..."Loupe Garou." As we have our own version of such a beast in the bayous, it has been sighted time and again. Our Audobon Zoo has a statue that resembles such creature near the alligator exibit in the bayou side of the zoo.
I am suprised the "therian kind" never get their own posts. "therian" is a term commonly used when working with cats, werecats would be therianthropy.
i am a "werewolf" in the sense that beautifullysadistic said i feel a wolf spirit in me and a t the full moon i have heightened senses and it is very easy for me to lose caontrol and start attacking people but i have never transformed...but i do sometimes black out during the full moon. any thing else that i can help with please ask me
Ok, we are not seeing who's going to kill who here, lol
Just learning more of what it is to be one.
Which again i will ask this.
What is it to be one? How would one know that he or she is one? What is it all about? Storys that has been told, info about that can be shared is great.
Details, and explaining these few simple things can and, i think, is very intresting. To me, and some that is new to this site that is learning about these things.
I would think that the genome structure of those of whom claim to be said "lycan" in theory, aside from the stereotypical moon gazing as well as attributes contributing to lunar effects, should have heightened senses like that of the "vampiric" gene.
If an individual is born with these qualities, who is to say who is "vamp" and whom is "lycan" just by these senses alone? Since both are rather similar in attributes alone.
I believe that humans can have wolf like characteristics!
humans can have wolf like characteristics.... and that would be what?
LOL Wolf characteristics. LOL Hmmm...there are many. Ferral natures, quick aggression, predatory stances, hieghtend senses of smell, pack mentality, and many more.
I believe that exist but no so much like the old monster movies show them. I think their blood is still around in some folks.
I am still open to any storys any one has to the sightings to werewolves and the like, if any one has one.
I live in Michigan.. The dog man legend has surfaced alot.. Theres a song about it.. I live in that area.... I've seen these places they stated in the sog, and all the tales seem to be true.. Its of a half man half beast that when on his hind legs reaches 8 foot tall. There was even an x-files episode about it.. 7th day of the 7th month of the 7th year is when this beast is supposadly active..
All through history it has been told of human children being find living with wolves and acting like wolves. Even when they have been taken out of this they still tend to act like wolves so in a way yes it can be true. It is also known of ppl who have hair growing all over their body and are miss identified as werewolves.
What I know about werewolves isn't susbtantial but I have done some research. Lycanthropy is a genuine mental disorder where, in the main, the sufferer is convinced they turn into a wolf (usually at full moon) and display wolf-like characteristics - eating raw meat, howling etc.
Then there are the people who, through meditation and ritual, can also take on the traits of the wolf. Some believe that they genuinely becme a wolf, at least in the mental sense, if not the physical.
Personally I don't subscribe to the belief of an actual physical change from human form to wolf form, I don't think that would be anatomically possible. But certainly on a mental or astral level, yeah, it could happen. Astral projection could be one way for a Lycan to 'shift'...their body stays human but their astral form is a wolf.
Aside for the medical afflictions and what not,I think Im going stick with the fact that it is simply a metaphor for the way someone acts.
AS far as genetics or hybrids and those possibilities?..not even going to go into it.
There are people that have hair all over their bodies that are identified as such.. I saw afew of them in San Antonio Texas.. Its a mystery how that happens..
I too have heard of the wolf looking people, the ones who have hair all over there body, and I have heard it comes from a pre domit gene that went active. that went haywire persay.
its those storys that made me think about doing this thread.
I think of the story of Jekyll and Hyde as sort of werewolf tale.
"Stevenson had long been interested in the idea of the duality of human nature and how to incorporate the interplay of good and evil into a story."
Jekyll-Hyde
Free audiobook
There has always been myths,facts,fictions it really trails where ever end you start at and from what i know its intrest how a where wolf starts. They share a savage trait that can do much damage to so maney people its really quite intresting how it all works. anyways i say its a possibley there could be some out there i mean realy theres no solid proof thats theres not.
And if there is, are they really aggressive as most state they are??
I think its possible for one to have a wolf spirit, I'm not too positive about the actual transformation to the wolf form, but anything is possible. I've heard stories of an indian spell that was used to transform the shaman into a wolf?
Ok, another thought, Like some people learning that they are a vampire, How does one find out that they are wolf types?
There has been sightings from the beginning of time time really. I believe there are,there has to be more than just humans.
I, personally, don't believe that werewolves exist other than as a medical/psychological disorder. I am more apt to believe in vampires than a human who shapeshifts into a wolf when there's a full moon, or any other time.
i believe at one point in time in history that they did exsist as for now who is to say they have just not evolved enough so that we do not know who they are the myths about them had to have started somewhere
There is much documentation including many photographs that show unusually hairy people with animal like features. Is this the crux of the werewolf legend? Perhaps.
Extremely hairy peeps? I could possibly be mistaken for a werewolf if I didn't use nair?
LOL, lets us all use nair for the hair problem...lol great advice...lol if you got the hair problem of course....lol
Any good advice to someone learning about werewolves?
Oh, here is a good ponder.....May be slightly on the silly, but it is a ponder just the same.
If a werewolf bites you, do the one that got bitten turn into a werewolf as well? Seen a few movies where it could be possible, but in truth, i am not sure.
Do the silver bullet kill a werewolf?
:D
Interesting question...it seems like that in the movies, if the damn thing doesn't kill you then you will turn.
And I would have to say that silver bullets would kill damn near anything if the shot is good.
werewolves i believe are real it is plausable that there is a disease that can change your apperance and also weaken brain activities explaining the animalistic qualities and transfer of the disease through bites is also plausable same characteristics as rabies
perhaps there is an almost extinct species out there that resembles warewolves. just as the loch ness monster is suggested by some to be a dinosaur.
I personally think that the werewolf myth and the bigfoot myths are tied together. Big hairy something(s) living in the forests? There must be similarities.
That very well could be.
Big foot and werewolves being tied together is a thought i haven't thought of.
My husband has seen bigfoot, around here, but that is more yeti and truth.
Werewolves? Well, isn't that associated with Jojo the dogfaced boy?
perhaps. The storys of werewolves started some where. Either by people with too much hair, or by people who didn't understand indians with animal counterparts storys. (animal totems)
And this brings me to this, would it be possible that some of the beginings come from just that? Indians talking to the animals?
That was purely in jest btw :p
Nobody have a coronary.
It very well could be something that originated from the indians speaking to animals.
LOL I think it wasn't the indians that took the werewolves thing way out there perhaps....lol it was the others that was trying to settle in the areas that the indians was liveing at. And watching the indians and there ways that just do as they always do, and make up storys to what was going on....lol i think also one way it could of happened.
Me, i think there is such a thing as werewolves. Why not... We are on a vampire site....lol they are real...lol
Nightwing666 states: Actually werewolves does indeed exist. The person suffers from a disease called Lycanthropy. Or Werewolfism. And the only group of people where this disease first stemmed from were the Irish.
I ask: I’m sorry, can you please provide links where you found this information? The basic research I have just done states that Lycanthropy is “Lycanthropy, a psychosis in which the patient has delusions of being a wild animal” (The American Journal of Psychiatry). It seems the first mention of this psychosis dates back to the Book of Daniel, not the Irish.
After writing an essay about Irish immigration to America, I am fully aware that the Irish were treated deplorably but nowhere in my credible sources did I find a reference to the Irish being used as “pets”.
Also, if you are looking for information regarding therianthropy, there are many great websites available, in addition to Yahoo Groups.
http://www.therianthropes.com/
http://www.geocities.com/rainforest/canopy/1927/greenspiral/resource.html
I've been waiting for someone to finally answer that question by naming the illness. Thank you.
I did not realize that it had mention in the book of Daniel. Do you know exactly where at?
Misterstikki:
Unfortunately, I am not familiar with the Bible. I believe that Nebuchadnezzar is prominent in the first 4 or 5 chapters of the Book of Daniel.
I suppose anything could be possible. I'll definitely be reading a little more about all this though. Thanks for the info :)
The Navajo people call a witch a wolf, in traditional culture witches are evil, and so is the Navajo wolf. Another name for witch is used by the Lakota, and that is the skinwalker. There are some Native Americans who believe that the witches have the ability to shapeshift, it would not be difficult to believe that by putting on the head and skin of the wolf would make one a werewolf.
I do not believe that anybody turns physically into a wolf, but ones mind may become the wolf, and wearing the skin of a wolf and the head of the wolf would come damn close.
Thank you demiana, well put.
It does put that dang close to it.
I think and believe that the werewolf stories have steemed from the people who have the hair growing all over them. They do look like a K9 and can and have been identified as wolves. Because we as humans stem back to the caveman ere we hunted and acted like animals. As it is in our genes we can tend to re-vert back that way. Hence when we see humans being a part of a wolf pack it is a natural occurance. With us being animals it is easy to be identified relating to one such as the wolf etc.
I totally agree, we do tend to resort back to our animal instincts at some time or another. I have two brothers that are very hairy...not to the degree as having hair over all their body but if they let their hair on their head grow long they tend to look like werewolves.
In most Shamanistic cultures the people often hold common beliefs about shapeshifting and those that preform magick.
Even the Norse.
Among the Norse how ever there was also another possibility. The Ulfhedinn or Wolf Coats. These were a form of Berserker that like thier counterparts often wore the skin and headress of a Wolf. Like Berserkers the warriors inducted into becoming a Wolf Coat went through a form ceremony that involved Magick Potions, and often the eating of a Wolf's heart and drinking of its blood inorder to bind the Wof's spirit and strength to the Wolf Coat. After which it is said that Ooinn (Odin) would cast spell granting immunities to certain weapons. These warriors would suffer the same Berserkergang as thier counter parts. Going mad in battle becoming animalistic Ignoring many deadly wounds.
I believe that a person can possibly posess some of the characteristics of a wolf. Like heightened senses, or even having all of the hair (like those two boys in mexico they're family suffered from a disease that caused them to be covered with hair) but I doubt people actually turn into wolves. I know that alot of different cultures out there believe in shape shifting, but I just find it a little unlikely that a human can turn into any thing other than that, just a human.
I always wondered if native americans might have screwed with the settlers heads once they started realizing that they were getting screwed...maybe pretending to be monsters resembling wolves, tormenting them at night.
The lycan is something created by the movie 'Underworld'.
Real werewolves in my opinion, don't exist, and are just honestly massive wolves.
Misterstikki - That's an interesting way of looking at it, maybe when the native americans and the settlers fought, some of the indians dressed as wolves or wore the skins of wolves, and maybe that's one of the ways the myth of the werewolf came to be.
Nebuchadnezzar didn't believe he was a werewolf. The story in Daniel says that he is supposed to have 'gone wild', losing the ability to speak and eating grass like a bull with his hair and nails grown out and knotted. The idea being that it was a punishment from God.
Think further back then Indians, my friend. Myths of werewolves go way back. One should never close their minds to such myths as these. Yes, the term lycan is mentioned in "UnderWorld", but weren't they essentially the same? I do not remember there being any extra abilities mentioned that separated them from the werewolf that we know. I consider them the same.
Robin, some of you questions were barely answered. I don't know the answers of some of your questions about how does one know if they are a werewolf. I can just answer other questions... best of luck finding answers.
There were Historical Dire Wolves that were roughly 5' or more at the shoulder. And while they are believed to have been extinct before modern civilization, there are other myths and stories of such large creatures being fought by heros of those ages. A warrior wearing the pelts of one of these Dire Wolves would be covered from head to toe.
kitsuna, good point. some questions haven't been nearly close to being answered.
How does one know if they are a were wolf type?
Example. Alot of us know we have vampire traits, how can we tell if we have any were wolves traits?
I'm sure there are traits of the werewolf that one can see. Take strange behavior during the full moon... when the moon's power is at it's peak...
i believe that werewolves have as much right to be real as vampires do after all myths had to come from somewhere else other than the big screen.
i think it's possible that being a werewolf could just be another part of someones Ego such as a seperate character that has developed in them mentaly such as how some martial art form portray certian kinds of animals in the different forms of practice so may the werewolf atribute be used to help some overcome their fears in certain cases.
I heard a story some where where the theory came a bout as the ans irish myth about the men turniong in to wolf to attack the enemy hope this will help
there are many stories of sightings and many stories of magical being of misfortunes.in ancient native american beliefs very few have had a curse upon them.others believed it to be the ability to shape shift.in my oppinion everyone has an inner demon/inner animal that comes forth during different times in life.the world is spiritually connected with everything in it.i personally feel a close connection with wolves as some are loners and some are just down right mean in a preditory way.this is again just my oppinion and i do believe that some peoplein ancienttimes could actually shape shift into there animal spirit.
Well, does anyone know how to tell if someone has a gift of the wolf? or being able to shapeshift?
Maybe this will help.
HOW TO TELL IF YOUR NEIGHBOR OR FRIEND IS A WEREWOLF
Werewolves live amoung us today, but unless you know what to look for, they are impossible to identify.
Except when they're suffering an attack of the rare illness that turns them into crazed beasts, they look like any of your friends or neighbors, experts say.
Dr. Werner Bokelman, an Austrian anthropologist who has studied werewolves for 30 years, has developed a test to help identify the werewolves amoung us. Here's how he says you can tell if your friend or neighbor is a werewolf:
* Does he smell like a mixture of stale hay and horse manure? Werewolves have extra glands that emit nasty smells.
* Does he have eyebrows that meet in the middle of his forehead? Doctors in Denmark say that's a certain sign of the beast inside. Werewolves' arms, legs, and bodies are extremely hairy, especially the backs of their hands and the tops of their feet.
* Does a neighbor's child seem unusually attracted to little girls by the age of 7 or 8? Werewolves reach sexual maturity at that age -- five years ahead of normal humans.
* Is the ring finger on both of his hands longer than the middle finger? Experts say a long ring finger is a sure sign a person is a werewolf.
* Does he own large pets that often disappear and then are replaced by other large pets? Werewolves have enormous appetites and like to sink their fangs into large, fleshy animals. It would take 100 chickens a week, for example, to satisfy the average werewolf.
* Do you hear strange howling and moaning in the neighborhood when there is a full moon and no dogs around? If so, you are living close to a werewolf.
* Does his skin slowly change color? It takes a few hours for a werewolf to change from human to animal form. The first sign is a gradual darkening of the skin.
* Does he wander around graveyards, mortuaries or turn up at the scene of fatal accidents? Corpses are a ready source of nourishment for young werewolves.
* Is his blood bluish red and his urine a deep purple? If you can trust yourself to be alone with a suspected werewolf in the daytime, try to find out without being too obvious. Following him into a men's room might be a good idea, but be careful.
Haha, a few of the first ones sound like Hick qualities ;]
oh ha ha ha thats true....i didnt notice that until you mentioned it.... so i guess werewolves live in the southern region
I think that the werewolf that most talk about here is the movie type werewolf. Shaping into a werewolf and such, I do believe that is a myth. The actuality of having wolf like qualities I do believe that is real. The heightened senses and what not. There are several different syndromes that are pertaining to animal instincts that people have.
There is the Lycanthrope syndrome: IT involves delusion of that the person can be transformed into an animal or they are an animal. An afflicition in which they can shapeshift into a wolf.
Then there is Zoanthropy in which the delusion is they can form into any animal not just a wolf.
COtard's Syndrome: When a person has delusions and idealations of immortality.
Werewolf Syndrome: Is an actual disease which in pretty well known worldwide, The person does not have wolf like tendencies but has the features of very thick like hair growth all over the body. It is called Hypertrichosis.
I guess Larry the Cable Guy has something new to use for jokes ... lol.
Brey road beast. i have heard of it and it is very intresting
there have been many sitings of WareWolves, on a farm not far from me and cattle has been missing and also chickens, cyoties are with the WareWolve nature
I believe the beast is real
The last known reported alleged werewolf siting in the state of Oklahoma was in 1971. It was said to have ran throught the streets dodging cars and going to peoples home and drinking out of there ponds . It was around for three days and never seen again.
misterstikki thanks for the website very intresting read
Never heard of or thought about it, but I read about the Brey Road beast as mentioned above, it sounds scary, but I don't reall know what to make of it
i m not sure if there really is a lycan curse but i do believe that some people can have heretitery disorders or gene structures that enable them to have werewolf features.
yea, see, I have seen the people who have the hair/fur, but don't live out in the woods eating roadkill
there are people who change in their minds at a full moon its a condition called lycanthropy, youll have to excuse my spelling if it, these people were called werewolves back in the early years even going back to medievil times where they were accused of eating livestock and even small children its a mental condition when a full moon rises they change into Man wolves or werewolves to us, other people with conditions are the ones that suffer from Congenital Generalized Hypertrichosis a condition of unstoppable hair growth which makes them appear like a wolf man
There is what is called Werewolf Syndrome. I have posted the medical term for it in another response to here. They do not shapeshift or things like that . They just have excessive hair growth all over the body.
That is about as much as I have witnessed with Werewolf, never really encountered someone who really was a shape shifter
well i believe it is possible to occur,i personally think the myth started from those who have the gene disorder i have seen a family in mexico that had ths feature but i am not exactly sure how it occurs..
morbidcuriousity - I'd like to see a link to that 'sighting'. ;]
there is a syndrom found by scientists on two boys, it's called the werewolf syndrom, it's mere because of the body covered with thick hair that seems to make them look like werewolves, that's what i know that's a fact
It's correct term is Hypertrichosis. ;] Jo Jo the Dog faced boy suffered from it.
I believe that their are those who look like werewolfs, I prefer to call them werefolk instead because i believe that they would look human with fangs and total body hair...
The werewolf syndrome did not have fangs just excessive body hair.
All this is very intresting indeed.
Still myself looking for more tales or storys on werewolves.
Robin - I think then, it would be easier to do self reseach, no?