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Even though am one of the few that doesn't believe in ghosts or haunted places...I have always been facinated by Alcatraz and its history.


The Ghosts of Alcatraz -
written and submitted by Chris Ullman (from The Ghost Hunter's Net)


Alcatraz was known as a hotbed of negative energy and despair long before this small island just off the coast of San Francisco, California, became the site of the infamous prison nicknamed The Rock. Native American Indians who lived in the region hundreds of years before the prison's actual construction began considered it to be the dwelling place of evil spirits and avoided it entirely out of respect for its inherent "bad medicine."


Dubbed La Isla de los Alcatraces -- The Island of the Pelicans -- by the spaniards who first set foot on it, Alcatraz's potential as a military stronghold became significant to the US Army Corps of Engineers midway through the 19th century, and in 1854 construction began in earnest to erect the foreboding structure which was to eventually destroy the lives of untold scores of men.


In August of 1861, Alcatraz became a fully operational military fortress and prison. Over the next hundred-odd years, it would be the final dwelling place of confederate soldiers, Indian chiefs, German prisoners of war, and a host of notorious "criminals" from all walks of American life. Many died brutally under the harshest conditions imaginable.


And apparently many of these downtrodden souls have never left.


After Attorney General Robert Kennedy closed the doors of Alcatraz on March 21, 1963, the prison remained unoccupied for six years. It is now overseen and maintained by the Golden Gate National Recreation Area, and many employees of this national park service have some interesting stories to tell about this gloomy and disturbing locale. Park service rangers -- and people who have taken the Alcatraz tour -- have heard crashing and banging sounds, the metallic clang of iron cell doors, and the horrific screams of phantom prisoners while wandering through the supposedly empty structure. Many individuals who have taken the Alcatraz tour have expressed an overwhelming sensation of being watched while passing through the prison.


The individual cell blocks inside the prison seem to possess their own unique brand of residual paranormal energy. The consensus among psychics is that the D block of cells contains the most malevolent energy inside Alcatraz, and it may not be coincidental that this was the area of the institution where prisoners were kept in solitary confinement.


D block is a dark, cold, subterranean nightmare of hallways and four-by-eight-foot cells, fourteen cells in all. The segment of D block which contains cells 9 to 14 was nicknamed "The Hole," because this area of the block contains no windows or lights, except for a single dim light in the exterior hallway which the guards usually left off day and night. Prisoners who were forced to experience the misery of this hellish section of D block were routinely stripped naked, beaten, and tortured prior to being shoved into the blackness of their cells, where they were often left to die of starvation or exposure. The lone consideration given to the men in D block who weren't left for dead was to allow them to leave their cells once a week to take a ten-minute shower.


Of the six cells comprising "The Hole" in D block, cell 14D is almost unanimously considered to be the most unnerving. Many renowned psychics have spent time in or near this eerie cell, and one of the first sensations they report is the overwhelming coldness that seems to permeate it. Even to the non-psychically gifted, cell 14D is demonstrably colder than any of the cells in the remainder of D block, oftentimes measuring as much as twenty to thirty degrees cooler than the other cells in the surrounding area when its air temperature has been measured with a thermometer. Other commonly reported sensations among people who dare to enter cell 14D are a peculiar tingling sensation on the arms and legs, and an overwhelmingly powerful feeling of despair.


Many men perished in cell 14D during the bleak history of the prison, but perhaps the most bizarre story surrounding this cell was related by a former prison guard who worked at Alcatraz in the 1940s. At the time, this particular guard and his cronies took a sort of perverse delight in telling the resident prisoners the story of a ghostly entity who roamed the corridors of D block in search of inmates, whom the entity would then allegedly possess, torture and murder in the middle of the night.


The entity in question was believed to be the spirit of a former inmate who had died in D block in the late 1800s. According to the guard who related the following tale, on one occasion an inmate was locked into cell 14D. Almost at once he began screaming that something with glowing red eyes was inside the cell with him. The convict continued screaming uncontrollably for several hours, despite the guards' and inmates' insistence that he quiet down.


Some undetermined amount of time later the inmate abruptly fell silent.


The following morning the guards inspected his cell and found the man dead; the ensuing autopsy revealed noticeable hand prints on his throat, and the official cause of death was listed as "non-self-inflicted strangulation."



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I forgot to add...what is your take on the place having ghosts or being haunted by the lost souls of the long dead prisoners??


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I have seen a show on the place being investigated, but it's been awhile. And I believe they had some activity then too. I have always wanted to go there and check it out. =)



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I would like to check out myself...but there is talk of building a huge Hotel on the island.



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Some ghost did do understand they are dead. Other's feel as they are keepers of the grounds and stay'

It would not surprise me if they do not built a Hotel there.

In Wv there is a prison that is haunted and they intend on turning it into business offices.



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Yeah...I live in WVa...I saw the place once when I was kid.



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I have been and lived in enough haunted places to believe in the existence of ghosts. If enough energy is released in an area there must be some consequence. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed merely transfered. I believe that people can transfer their energy into things or places. It will retain some imprint of the person. Now as for the spirits of actual people "stuck on earth" that I would have to say would be very rare an based mostly on beliefs and will of the person. In either case the energy left behind could cause damage to someone or "scare them to death".



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I believe it's quite a possibility. I haven't toured Alcatraz, but I toured the state pen in Santa Fe New Mexico after it had been moved to a new supermax prison...there was a massive riot at this old prison back in 1980

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_State_Penitentiary_riot

and it was known as one of the worst prison riots in american history. I used to know one of the guards who worked there during the riot and he was telling me how people were getting beheaded and after the inmates took over the medical infirmary, they started taking drugs and he remembered seeing an inmate using another inmates head as an ashtray (eye sockets)...anyway, you can tour this prison now. They have painted over the blood stains, but they still seep through the paint and it's always cold inside there, even in the dead of summer. Creepy. It's rumored to be haunted by ghosts as well.

I'm not much of a believer myself, but I believe in this.



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I think it's possible that ghosts haunt Alcatraz, afterall if they're going to haunt something I believe it would most likely be the prison they spent most of their lives in. It couldn't have been a very happy place, so the people there probably were gloomy or depressed all of the time, and when they died they were unaware of it and stayed there.



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I definitely believe it is haunted. With the deaths that occured there and the type of prisoners that were sent, it wouldn't surprise me at all. When I was little, roughly age 10, I was there with some of my family. We did one of those tours and I got separated for a bit. The interesting thing is that even in the areas would I could see other people I still felt like I was being watched. Don't know if it was being watched for protection, or possibly something else. But lets just say I was glad when I found my family again, lol.



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I've always wanted to go tour their. both for the historic aspect of it and also for the paranormal aspect as well. It makes very good sense that the place is haunted, if they were bound their in life, why wouldn't that carry over and bound them their in death, especially if they have committed a horrid crime.



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i think it is haunted by the souls of the guys that were killed in thier until they have tied up the loose ends they will still be roaming the halls of the prison



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there's alot of pain and suffering that went on there.



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tht kind of stuff esp. when it evovles around ghosts and Alcatraz just seems so interesting...at least 4 me it is ne wayz.



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I do believe that it is haunted. After all there were alot of deaths there. I have watched a show called America's Most Haunted Places and Alcatraz was on there. Also Tap's investigated it and I saw that episode. They did get some activity.



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I wouldn't mind going there and checking it out



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I have no doubts that the place is haunted. Ive never been there but taking into acount the type of people that were left to die there, there really is no question about it.



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This website might shed some more light on the subject.

CLICK HERE

I do personally feel that The Rock would be a breeding ground for negative energies that could manifest themselves into spiritual activity.



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I heard that they do have tour groups that can go in for the day or something. I am not sure if this is so. But it is worth checking out.



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You know, I mightust go there, I really really want to experience a ghostly encounter, the supernatural just excites me and interests me



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Do you believe that if the hotel project is green lighted,the new hotel would be haunted by the spirits of Alcatraz??



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I believe so



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If the ghosts are haunting alcatraz, which they most likely are, and then a hotel is built there I do think it would be haunted as well. The ghosts died on that property and are probably attatched to it. Just think of the people and the lives they may have lead, think of how alcatraz must have been a pit of depression and despair...I think that there are ghosts there and most definitely they will haunt the hotel. They might even be angry that the prison is gone and that something new is there, because the prison (no matter how negative of a place it was) was the last place they saw before they died.



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With all the abuse ans torture that many of the prisoners went through while living on the rock,do you think if "ghosts" were in fact on the island,they would try to harm anyone that lived or worked there after the hotel went up??



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It is hard to say, will there be hauntings, of course, but will the ghosts really harm anyone??? It's possible. I think they might because of the brutality they had all faced



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I imagine they were angry and upset for being imprisoned for the rest of their lives, so if the spirits of the prisoners are still around then I believe they would be angry, so I guess it's possible that may lash out at the people staying/working at the hotel.



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i think the place can be haunted since it has a lot of built up memmories,i have heard that a group of native americans stayed there for a while using it as a place to live but i don't know if thats true or not..



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I do honestly think Alcatraz is one of the few places that is actually haunted.

Looking at it's history as well as the number of people who were imprisoned and died there, it's actually believable that it was haunted.



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Very Interesting!!! I don't think I have ever seen that posted before either. Nice Job!!!

I believe strongly that ghosts do roam the earth. I agree that the history of Alcatraz would make it a perfect place to find ghosts. I have been to prison before so I know that ghosts linger there too. I wonder if there is a movie on this or at least a documentary that I can sit down and watch. That would strike my interest.



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I have a tendency to think that anytime there is mass sorrow or strife in a place,it becomes "haunted".Alcatraz included.



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There have been several docs. on Alcatraz and ghost stories within each...Im sure if you do a search on history.com or discovery.com they might have them on dvd.



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thank you for the information, i will be checking that out



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A Brief History
of Alcatraz

Before the Prison

The name Alcatraz is derived from the Spanish "Alcatraces." In 1775, the Spanish explorer Juan Manuel de Ayala was the first to sail into what is now known as San Francisco Bay - his expedition mapped the bay and named one of the three islands Alcatraces. Over time, the name was Anglicized to Alcatraz. While the exact meaning is still debated, Alcatraz is usually defined as meaning "pelican" or "strange bird."

In 1850, a presidential order set aside the island for possible use as a United States military reservation. The California Gold Rush, the resulting boom in the growth of San Francisco, and the need to protect San Francisco Bay led the U.S. Army to build a Citadel, or fortress, at the top of the island in the early 1850s. The Army also made plans to install more than 100 cannons on the island, making Alcatraz the most heavily fortified military site on the West Coast. Together with Fort Point and Lime Point, Alcatraz formed a "triangle of defense" designed to protect the entrance to the bay. The island was also the site of the first operational lighthouse on the West Coast of the United States.

By the late 1850s, the first military prisoners were being housed on the island. While the defensive necessity of Alcatraz diminished over time (the island never fired its guns in battle), its role as a prison would continue for more than 100 years. In 1909, the Army tore down the Citadel, leaving its basement level to serve as the foundation for a new military prison. From 1909 through 1911, the military prisoners on Alcatraz built the new prison, which was designated the Pacific Branch, U.S. Disciplinary Barracks for the U.S. Army. It was this prison building that later became famous as "The Rock."

http://www.bop.gov/about/history/alcatraz.jsp



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The Rock is a great stage for haunting, rich with story lines, each one containing remarkable detail, the effects that could be used in such a place.. wow.. in Illious their is a prison that is haunted each halloween season, projectors and even blowers to move puffs of cold air.. the history of the Rock really sets the performance, to expeirance the lock down alone is a shiver I am told, I have only done the virtual tour myself. Some tour guides will only mention the ghost stories if asked by a group member they usually work the topic back to the tour and the history.. there are people that work their that always walk through, some newer ones will only walk through with someone else.. usually to avoid being spooked by another worker.. but some say that their is a presence.. so whooooo Knoooooowwwssss a voice down the corridor ask...



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I believe that I recently read where there was some discussion on putting up condos or a hotel complex on the island. I personally believe there is to much negative energy remaining there.



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Anybody aware of the status of the island prison in Australia, is that toured as well?



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I agree that this place is most certainly haunted. The hellish conditions and mistreatment of the inmates truely leaves a psychic residue upon this place. Although there were extremely horrendous criminals imprisoned there, they did not deserve the abuse that they suffered by unfeeling, heartless prison guards. It is no wonder that there souls full of torment wander the lonely halls of this place.



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The guards as well where subject to cruelty at the hands of inmates,
A maximum prison is the end of the line for some serious natorious criminials, yet some Paper hangers that where incarcarated there where even given jobs in admin. For the time Alkatzaz was a model prison.. held along side other prisons at the time, Levenworth, three times the suicide as The Rock.. half as many Riots. Inmates from other jails would sometimes confess to fedral crimes just to be transferred to The Rock.



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Thanks DW for posting this...this is very interesting :)



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I've read alot about this & The Prison too..
I believe it is b/c alot of Horrible thing's happened to ppl there.
These are thing's will keep a Spirit..



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I would say it is haunted, with the fact that some prisoners died in the prison as well as some being executed there. These also would not be very happy spirits



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A theatric effects company was given a private tour of The Rock, along with several magicians, shortly after that they announced the ghost tour of The Rock, I am certain that some effects where installed in the building. But whatever increases the promotion, Has any body noticed that a lot of haunted places get a lot of free promo, from "Hunters", Seekers, Investigators, and even skeptics.. How about all the bed and breakfast, the ones that are haunted attractions, they are booked years in advance. Historical buildings that are off once popular highways(bypassed by other freeways) they do pull the crowds.



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Australia being a penal colony has many prisons with long histories of ghost stories from past prisoners.

Many paranormal experts have tried to debunk or prove the stories. I personally think they are true, looking back out our countries bloody first beginnings. The torture and murder of prisoners runs rife throughout all the states. Each state has prisons with horror histories. Considering some of these poor souls where not cut throats, murderers or rapists but simple poor people that stole a loaf of bread to feed their family, or sentenced over some stupid offence just to ease the population burden on the UK.

So all that negativity has to leave its imprint an after thought so to speak of the horror people went through. Yes I think the halls of prisons where death especially was prominent leaves behind ghosts or echoes of what went on there. Some souls will never rest because of the hell they faced when they were alive.



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Yes,Australia is full of places like that.I used to live near a place called Hanging rock,and you talk about strange feelings..not bad ones,but pretty spooky at times.



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What would some of those places in Australia be called?



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I have been to SF's Rock and found it to be quite creepy and could see how the place would have a hard time not being thought of as haunted. It would also be difficult to believe that the amount of negative energy produced at any place of torture, death, and imprisonment would just cease to exist because the person has, if able, moved on.



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I would love to visit Alcatraz and any other supposively haunted place.

There are heaps of haunted jails in Australia, Boggo Road Jail is one, they even had a special on it not long ago and something happened which no one can explain. Their is also Melbourne Jail just to name a few. Hanging Rock is a place all of its own. I have driven passed it and I just felt doom and glom and that was just passing by in a car.



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Well, for all the misery & deaths, it wouldn't suprise me if the place had an eerie atmosphere about it. I bet it is haunted, or people might just be looking into things that just arent there.



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The whole place was founded on prisoners was it not?



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DasWolf -


What do you mean founed on prisoners?



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I feel there is ghosts or spirits and in places where traggic things have happened they could exist....but I also believe that a person so hyped up to the thought of ghosts being there can manifest their own fears and or be scared by things that are just common place there which they were not aware of



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In a sneak trip to an abandoned ""Asylum" in Napa I confess to haunting a few people, using the circulated info from online.. I brought a thin sheer square of material, and a thin fine stiff wire, we had cold beer as well, I placed the square material around the cold beer, kept the thin wire up my arms sleeve, when we had a collective moment in a hall, I threw something into a room behind me. they came out to look, I had the material on the end of the wire using their perifial in the dim lighted corridor I brushed the wire between them the chill was what they noticed, along with.. "motion" "Something touched me!" I saw something, they looked at me "?" .. I replied, I was looking up taking a swig off my beer, the wire and material "Vanished" they have taken two trips since, always with new people, they all claim activity.. perhaps to appear to be part of something. I had fun, I encourage others to create their own ghost for those that think they can not be scared.



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VAMPIREBLONDEE
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02:09:47 Jun 25 2008
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I have heard Alcatrez is haunted....but...If I was a ghost I would choose a better place to spend the afterlife than prison. I think I will go haunt a shoe store at the mall....ta-ta



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02:10:50 Jun 25 2008
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If a person dies a tragic death they most likely do stick around the place they died. Especially if that is where they have been most of there natural life, they know no other place.



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Oceanne
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Distortion,there are a bunch over there,but since this is about Alcatraz,I'll refrain from naming them,thus talking about them in any depth.;)



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14:05:04 Jun 25 2008
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Al Capone is rumored to haunt "the Rock"



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Warrior
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17:25:04 Jun 25 2008
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On one of the ghost shows where they go in and do investigations they had some EVP work and when they asked if someone was there on the tape when they played it back sounded just like someone said Capone. That would have freaked me out.



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VampireBlondee...I am not so sure that ghosts can actually choose where they want to haunt. Alacatraz is most likely haunted because of how many people died there. I think ghosts haunt certain areas because they died there.



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21:07:00 Jun 25 2008
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I'd have to agree with MiserableAtBest.


Ghosts usually haunt the places where they die or, in cases of murders, the people who killed them.



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21:32:12 Jun 25 2008
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one of geronimos apache freedom fighters was sent there.
the dock of the titanic which esp built was neaby and its huanted too.no ship will ever dock there.



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TumorNamedMarla
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21:36:17 Jun 25 2008
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Al Capone was also famously 'caught' in 1931, when he was successfully convicted for income-tax evasion. He was sentenced to serve 11 years in prison.

In 1939 Al Capone was released to hospital, after seven and a half years, as a result of an infection of syphilis. His poor health forced him to live as a virtual recluse in Florida, with his family, where he died on 25th January, 1947.

Capone never died in prison.


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23:04:28 Jun 25 2008
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Thanks for that bit of information DW.


Where did you hear it?



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Warrior
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23:11:28 Jun 25 2008
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That is interesting information on Capone. I had always heard he died in prison.



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TumorNamedMarla
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23:26:07 Jun 25 2008
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I was born in Chicago and studied everything about what Capone did while there.He did spend time in Alcatraz for tax evasion....but was never charged for killing anyone.

http://www.alcatrazhistory.com/cap1.htm



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23:40:29 Jun 25 2008
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I have seem many specials on telly about Alacatraz and it's ghosts. It is quite interesting, with all the pain and suffering there, one would think there has to be something there.Whether it be restless ghosts of the inmates or the guards that worked there for years.
The energy there would have to be so dense and charged from all the folks that were there.It would be a cool place to visit.



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TumorNamedMarla
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00:30:42 Jun 26 2008
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Sure anytime...just sharing major info.



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05:45:21 Jun 26 2008
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i think its funny how you have these old mobsters like capone. how many people did he have killed and he got locked up over tax stuff



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15:33:18 Jun 26 2008
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DarkWolfman.... may i suggest submitting an article to the Members Articles section on Alcatraz and the Ghosts that linger......i would rate a 10 for sure.... just going off of what you posted here



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22:58:45 Jun 26 2008
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some of the most mentally deranged,evil men,were put there so they could no longer hurt others,someof them died horrible deaths so evil in fact,after they died they still believe they live,so they can sacre other people to death,they haunt the walls of alcatraz.this is what i believe



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23:37:08 Jun 26 2008
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Darklady2008 -

I do believe that there were some very bad people at alcatraz...and that their spirits still haunt the place, but being evil has nothing to do with not noticing your death. Sometimes if a death is particularly violent, the spirit may not remember it, and not even know he or she has passed away...so being evil has nothing to do with not knowing if you have passed on or not.



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