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I was watching Tapps on TV last night and was thinking about paranormal and science mixed together.
If you believed or felt a house to be haunted and nothing showed up on their scientific equipment …. Would it mean your ultrasensitive to such things or science hasn’t caught up with what a ghost is?
Personally I believe a ghost needs us around to draw energy from what do you think?

ghosts do feed off of our energy but they do feed off of other things..they feed off or batteries and anything that has electicity

Ghosts have been known to feed off of numerous souces of energy....

Heat

Electrical

Emotional

Psychic

and Geological.


Wherever energy can be found, a spirit can find a way to exist.....

There is so much that science is still learning. I will be interested with the potentials that will come from the development of Nano technology to see if our outer perceptions of the paranormal changes some of them to a more normal status.

For those that don't follow completely, my line of thought is simply as science grows in its testing ability, so will our understanding of the paranormal and how it fits in our world.

To answer the other question no I do not think that because equipment doesn't record evidence that there is none, I just think we need better ways to find and track it.

I saw a show with newer equipment for photo spectrum in all aspects not visible to the naked eye. On first try they captured a manlike image. I do believe and always have that there are more things in life than what you can see. Technology/Science just has to play catch up.

i think ghosts can hide thier energy from the equipment if they want to

I think there is just some things that science cant detect. but i also believe that ghosts need people around to believe in them, if you dont believe in something it doesnt exsist, maybe its just that they go in looking to prove nothing is there so there fore they find nothing. but on the other hand if they go in thinking that the place is truly haunted they are able to find something. I guess im just rambling now and not making sense

T.A.P.S. and they never prove anything because ghosts do not exist.

Ghosts do not need our energy they can take the energy from electrical things

Yes Hawk2k I agree with you ghosts feed off many different things not just us

Why do you think that?
Why would a ghost feed of other energies besides human?
Also how?

I would think a ghost could manifest itself out of pure residual energies. Those energies left by past drama, whether it be from decadence, happiness, or sorrow.

Unless we are discussing the merit of static energies, then mayhaps they do need a living individual to perform such apparitional appearances.

machinary has a tendency to brake down or just not work at all. I wouldnt take it for gosbol that because a machine shows no evidence that thats how it should be.

Back in the day people used a phrase which now seems very old fashoined......' can you feel the vibration ' I have never found a phrase which describes it better though.

As a part of a congregation I have been asked to send love/energy in order to help communication with Spirit and so yes I think that we can give energy, but is that the same thing as it being taken without our consent ?

No, I personally don't believe energy can be taken without our consent to 'power' a ghost/spirit, though perhaps they can make use of strong emotion that some of us throw out now and again.

Nor would I be bothered if ' ghost catcher ' equipment could not verify what I could feel around me, instincts have been around a long time, I would always trust mine in such matters.

I don't know if it's the fact that they haven't caught up with what a ghost is, I just think that they haven't made the right technology/equipment yet

Ghosts are energy and energy usually feeds off energy so it's possible that Ghosts need people about to draw energy from.

Since when have ghosts ever fed on anything? They're ghosts!
I reckon that even if equipment picks nothing up, it could either be a timing or placement thing, or perhaps their technology isn't able to sense anything because it isn't the right kind of technology... why is this so hard to put in words? Ech.

I don't think just because the ghost isn't showing up on film that it doesn't exist, I think that just means that our technology isn't advanced enough to actually capture the ghost on film. As for the other thing, I don't believe that ghosts need us to be around, they can feed off of any type of energy around them. Like risidual hauntings, they play over and over even when people aren't around.

i think ghost still have some of there smarts from when they were living so most of the time they show them selfs when they want to be seen or to make a point. and i believe that ghost and such feed of everything from emotions to the current running through the wires in your house to a cell phone battery. it has been known for the spirit to drain such things dry of there power before making them selves known in some shape or form. but as far as the field of science catching ghost and spirits on film and such. they where caught because they wanted to be. they may be dead but to them they are very much alive of sorts.

I also believe that ghosts feed off of our energy. They do exist, and just because there is no technology to "track" them means nothing. We are always making technological advances. Who's to say we may or may not ever be able to prove their existence.

thats just it. most of know that spirits and ghost exist in this world. there is just to many men and women that chalk there happens of the odd and the weird to be sleepy or something of the sort. so how many have really seen ghost could be alot more then we all think. but in the end i dont think science will be able to track them. but does that mean they dont exist. well that a load of crap. i in my personal life know better then to say they are not real. for i have seen them and at one point in my life i have lived with them.

Well in my opinion they don't need us they are just in sort of a limbo in my opinion. But I think that maybe the equipment isn't good enough.

with out us how else do you think they would make themselves known. after all we all long to me remembered or to have us be known to the world.

We are talking about science. We have found just about every particle now, and the only one we have not detected is the particle that makes things gain weight.

we are talking about something that has not mass nor weight it is something and at the same they are nothing. i am surprised that we really found dark matter or antimatter.


but with spirits they are nothing but the left of energy of ones soul that wonders the earth still reliving his or her past. so can science really see or track spirits no. they can not. it is not proven that science can. most of that world still believes that ghost dont exist or that we are all nuts because we think we are vampires or are different in some way.


so to me science is the crack pot on this one.

Being pagan we know our ancestors talk to us in rituals and dreams…science cant understand this

well I agree science cannot understand the whole concept of Ghost, spirits etc.. I mean they try (some of them) yet as a whole the Science part is always trying to analyze what it is and not accept the fact it can be real.

I also do feel that Ghost need living beings to enhance their energies. I mean we do have alot of electrona and nuerons in us LOl (electricity) and the Ghost to me need that energy to survive on this plane.

If spirits/ghosts are not detected on EMF, EVP, or Temperature sensing equipment, it doesn't mean they are not there. At the time the investigative team was there, it could be the ghost was elsewhere. There is also the possiblity that the ghost simply did not wish to be detected.

ghost do interact with the tools people use to find ghost. but in them selves those tools are worth nothing.

I could imagine the energy depletion could be measured, if one could get a haunted person hooked to an MRI.

the fact of the matter is most people of the science world would laugh at the mere thought of such a thing. but i guess in that aspect you are right.

i think that sounds very reasonble. Ghosts need us to be ghosts, they have to have energy to feed off, thats why eventually haunted houses are no longer haunted because the ghosts stopped having someone to feed off.

They only get power from the rage anger hate or love they have felt in life

Might not be just those negative energies, might be the type of ghost haunting too.
Teenagers tend to attract poltergeist activity and when teenager is removed from the house the activity stops.

Where visual walkers seen before there tragic end can stain the building.

There are essentially three types of entity; half-real subjective, half-real objective and whole-real, which in turn is split into three types.

Subjective means seen or perceived with the naked eye/ear but not video/audio equipment, and objective means captured on audio/visual equipment but not perceived with the naked eye/ear. Whole-real means captured/perceived with both eyes and equipment. If that makes sense :-)

Whole-real can be type 1 - when subj. and obj appear the same;
type 2 - when subj. and obj. appear different;
or type 3; when subj. and obj. appear essentially the same, but additional information/evidence is apparent on either subj. or obj.

(The use of the term 'half-real' doesn't mean that an experience wasn't real; it's simply a way some ghosthunters use to define the characteristics of a sighting)

So; with that in mind; a half-real subjective paranormal encounter wouldn't appear on any audio/visual equipment, although it might well use it to manifest to the naked eye :-)

It appears to me that ghost would be of a conscious make-up, as emotions are related to the consciousness of something, could that make a case that ghost are not, souls, but lingering consciousness of people? Then would that unsettled, or connected/attached conscious
be aligned with only those who are connected or attached to the ghost.

I really dont know how I feel about the whole ghost or spirit needing someone to attach themselves to. But I do know that it is possible for someone like Tapps to come into your home and not find anything and your house really be haunted. No I dont know from experience, but it is possible. Some people a spirit or ghost just wont mess with or give them any kind of idea or sign that they are there.

Ghosts are ghosts because that's what we want them to be. We only use 10% of our brains..... I'm sure all of you have heard that by now.... Now, when someone dies, do we not imagine them there for a long while afterwards? We want them to be there so badly that sometimes, it happens.... I think that ghosts are real but only because we make them.. if that makes any sense at all. all our love, hate, anger, resentment, depression, etc. go into making these beings in the image of our loved ones and depending on which feeling is strongest is how the ghost turns out... i think that that's where we get the poltergeists and such.... and how ever much energy is put into making these beings is how long they might stay or hang around until they eventually fade away... That's just my opinion though.. may seem a bit far-fetched, crazy even, but hey... It's no worse than some of the stuff I've seen other people come up with. lol

i belive they feed off from our energy and they feed off electric and heat.. Sometimes i think they feed from fear. Ii think that there are times when they want to be seen and when they don't sciene can't force them to show themselves..

If something like that were to happen I'd believe nothing was there. Nothing paranormal at all.

ghost have to draw energy at day and through electronics and electromagnectic field so that they show at night ghost is pur energy and feed off energy to make them selfs known

I think that a ghost will only let you detect it if it wants to. Did that make sense? I do not think it will manifest itself on demand but when it is ready to do so.

i think we al thrive on energy and agree that ghose need energy as well..
i think it is in science to disbelieve ghost but to the nonescience who are sensitives and open minded to believe and help find findings of spirit existances.

i have heard that ghosts do have a lot of powers and can be dangeruos

i think that if somebody feels like that and nothing was caught, then science hasnt caught up yet.
theres always room for improvement.

I dont not feel they would need us around to manifest.There are plenty of electromagnetics around to charge them.

I believe that the spirits do pull off of the energies that are around them .

i think it's even possible for them to drain our energies when they are close by,i think thats why people who live in haunted houses are always tired.

If there is negative energy being put off from someone does that necessarily mean that the spirit there will be a negative one? Just curious

What powered this activity?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tina_Resch

Ghost feed off our energy and things in our home. Scary as it is to have a ghost around.. Spooky!!!

I agree they do feed off are energy and are fear
I also belive a ghost can harm you if they wanted to

How do you think they could harm someone? Phsyically?

I don't know if I believe that ghosts are ppl come back to earth I have had way too much experience in the supernatural. I dont claim to exactly know about spirits but every spirit ghost ect. I have seen felt or heard has been what I believe is just dark spirits sent to torment and drag you down.lol yea I know I'm babbleing:D

I dont think ghosts have any power unless they are evil

Interesting thought …. Why would only evil become a ghost? Or just good people cant?

spirits, dont need us there are many other sources and i believe in them see them and here them seeing i have a physchic ability to feel presence i cant hear them or see them but i gasp when i feel something eh but yeah i think id have to agree with the electric energy feeding from them

um another post not all ghost are evil most are lost or trapped in between worlds smiles, not all are bad or out to get us only the demons hate us there once was angels now considered falling angels from the one time they was with god from heaven and have falling to mercy to the devil god i hate that word gives me the "chills". lol

I mean ghosts can hurt you right by moving objects, am i correct?

My ghost has tripped people, Some activity can cut it pretty close, but that would be in response to someone over reacting to activity.

I think ghost who have had a bad death stay in this world untill the can get revenage on who every killed them so I beleive ghost can go unseen or felt untell the choose to show you

What makes anyone think a ghost is feeding period?

i thing most ghosts can chose where to be seen or not they might need to draw power from us to materilize

a ghost to me can be in a house and not respond to a scientiific equipment if they dont want too.

in some ways yes ghost are only ghost because we want them to be. but in other ways. Ways we can not understand at this point in our lives. have seen and heard and even felt something that was not of this world interact with us in some ways. so do spirits or ghost exist yes. the way the mind works to me has nothing to do with the existence of ghost or not. they are still here trapped in this world of the living because of the way they either left this world or the way that they have lived there life.

If you believed or felt a house to be haunted and nothing showed up on their scientific equipment …. Would it mean your ultrasensitive to such things or science hasn’t caught up with what a ghost is?

I would think about the possibility of a Poltergeist in that case.

Personally I believe a ghost needs us around to draw energy from what do you think?

I think it's possible, when I had my expiriences in my own house, I used to feel tired more than usual and if I had these expiriences, there must be a reason I believe.

i belive ghost energy cant be harvested in the same manner as the movie ghostbusters!! ya i said it!!

We view ghosts to be in the realm of the paranormal, assuming magic = paranormal and implementing the theorem of equality: The paranormal is nothing more than undiscovered science. So yes, I do think that we are not at a stage that we can properly catalog EVERYTHING.

However, have you ever considered that there just simply wasn't any paranormal activity that night?

I couldn't have said it better myself, Profane. ;)

No, we're not even close to being able to catch and study everything "ghostly". Just think of the progress that we've made over the years. We have so much farther to go. Will we ever have all inclusive proof of ghosts? Some would say we already do and some would say no.

Also, just like Profane said, there might have not been any activity the night TAPS investigated. Jason and Grant always say this when they don't catch anything. There was one show they did where the ghost seemed to be more active when a 12 year old girl was around. Jason and Grant both said that maybe the reason they didn't get a lot of evidence was because the girl wasn't present. They can't always have a perfect setting for investigation.

Besides, ghosts can be shy, can't they??? :)

TAPS is fun to watch, but how often do they actually find something? I have to say that I do not believe in the paranormal, but that is only because I have not experienced anything.

i think human intuition and instinct is one of the most powerful things inthe world. If you get an eerie feeling, or swear the house is haunted, there is a reason. I believe science and people like tapps do great work, but its just not quite enough to keep up yet.

in my option before one can sense or see a ghost, or spirit or what ever you may want to call. first that person must be open to the fact that they are real and that they can in fact interact with the world of the living but if said person is not open to such things that how would he or she even know what they felt or saw or heard was in fact a spirit or a ghost. most often the not many people who think that ghost and all that is a bunch of crap then they could have had many interactions with said ghost and spirit and they could not even remember or recall said event as they would pass it off as just a random thing happening in the house or in fact that it was just there mind playing tricks on them.


so that is why many people who want a interaction with them become a non believer in the world of spirits because they never keep there minds open to the possibility of such a event happening to them.

Animals can sense things probably far better than we humans can at times. I think it depends on how well tapped we are into nature and our surroundings. It's only natural to feel certain ways about things or places we don't have a full understanding of. I think it's really cool that TAPS is at least trying to prove something (or not) with science. Working together instead of against each other would be more beneficial in the end, unlike let's say...the Crusades? :D

I guess the best way to se if your intuitions are true, is to search for a history on the place you think is haunted. If there were serial killings and suicides it is likely that there would be spiritual activity.

I think Tapps (Ghost Hunters) and Ghost Hunters International do a very fine job of debunking things. I just started to get invovled in thier shows after seeing a show called Most Hunted on the travel channel. Watching the differnces I firmly believe that it was best said by them. "Just because we didn't get anything, doesn't mean it's not thier." With the evedence that they didn't or did have I think they either don't have the right equipment at the time or it was truely nothing going on.

Doesn't nessassarly make it true. It's only our logic that states to us that ghost or paranormal activity needs some sort of energy to draw apon. Being that it's always around us. In order to disprove this you would need to be an absloutly no energy sealed room that was supposedly haunted or contained paranormal activity to prove otherwise.

I personally believe that science is still in its infantry when it comes to the paranormal and supernatural.

Most beings are more attuned to ghosts than others. I think its because we can feel them feeding off of our energy, no matter how morbid that sounds.

Ghosts only have as much power as we allow them to have.

Ghosts can draw power from many things that are around us. Human energy is one of them. I am a watch ghost hunters and love how the debunk things but there are always things that are unexplained or unable to be debunked. Human perception can see things that science has yet to understand

I agree with the majority that ghost feed of anything that gives off energy. I think it is more powerful if they are related to or lived in the place they haunt.

As for science, well unless they can touch it, feel it and see it, there is no basic logic for it being real. But these people believe in God. Go figure.

i think that just because toys dont always pick up on a spirit dose not mean they are not there.. do you proform on camand all the time.. why should they?

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Where exactly did you hear that? Wouldn't it depend more on the ghost rather than them all?

I feel it needs our energy. I also believe if a ghost doesnt want to be detected it can make it so they dont get a reading.

I believe ghosts can feed of every kind of energy postive, negitive, electrical etc and what results you get all depends on the energy they are drawing on. Having all sorts of amazing techinical equipment is great but personally I think the best 'ghost' detector is a human being, partically a sensitive one after all machines haven't got feelings/emotions or a soul.

Ghosts feed off of whatever energy is around. Just because they are not caught on electronic equipment it does not mean they are not there

ghosts draw enegry from lights or whereever they can get it

I don't think they just need us to draw power. I have been watching ghost hunters on sci-fi for a while and I have noticed ghost draw power from electrical objects and the energy around them. They suck up heat almost, if you have ever heard of hot spots.