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LifeIsKillingMe
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In some cultures "Visiting" another person by means of spiritual transportation and manifestation is quite common. What are your thoughts on what is called Dream Weaving by some peoples such as the Cherokee?




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I believe that it is possible, even through meditation if concentrated enough.



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would be nice to be able to even grasp how they prepare themselves and indeed how they accomplish it



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it's a very rare gift from what i know of it.
but i've heard it called, dreamwalking or narcomancy too



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I have been visited by a member of my family by way of Dream Walking. It was quite interesting. So, yes, I believe in it, but I don't know how he did it at all.



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I have heard of it as dreamwalking too, and think its an extension of meditaion and astral projection.



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I know someone who can do this and he calls it dream walking. It is not something that can be taught, he just knows how to do it.



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Is this dreamweaving another form of astral projection? Cause thats what it sounds like to me.



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its possible i find it very interesting



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I guess you could say it is like astral projection. It takes a special person to enter someone's mind. But where astral projection is putting yourself in different places, dream walkers walk in your dreams.



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I've also thought of it as something like astral projection... It brings out my curiousity all the time. It amazes me, and I constantly try to learn about such things...but I don't really know as much as I would like.



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Octavia
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Enter your dreams eh? So Feddy Kruger has some truth to it...lol



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This is from the Vampire (Vampiric) Codex.........


XIX. Dreamwalking
Remember, we can feed through a touch, but our spirits extend far beyond the limits of our body. Long-distance draws that are just as intimate and intense as feeding flesh to flesh can be achieved.

When you are starved for energy and no opportunity to adequately sate your needs has arrived, you may find that you will send yourself out in dreams. This is much like astral travel, although it is largely an unconscious activity. You will dream of someone close to you. This can be a family member, a good friend, a current or a former lover. This person need not be located physically close to you, as the subtle reality does not know distance as we know it in the physical world. Your body may be confined to your bedroom, yet your dream-self may wander hundreds and even thousands of miles away.

The dream will seem unusually vivid. It is very likely that the dream will also be lucid, and you will realize at least in part that you are dreaming, but that this other person is somehow actually present in the dream. In the course of the dream, you will have an exchange with the target person. The exchange can be overtly vampiric, or it may manifest itself in an erotic context. The person who you have visited this way will wake up tired and worn just as if you had fed directly from them that night. Often, they will recall the dream as well, and if it is possible to compare experiences, you will find that certain elements of the dreamscape were shared by both people involved in the dream.

With practice, you will come to be able to distinguish between your ordinary dreams and these dream-walking experiences. The process does not always have to be unconscious. You may gain mastery over this ability and dream-walk at will. However it remains a survival technique inherent in the vampiric nature. Therefore, especially in periods of dire need, you may find your soul wandering regardless of your personal control.



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PhoenixTempest
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And here is a link to another site.....hope it works.

http://www.housesaintgermain.org/id38.html



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LifeIsKillingMe
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The experience I have with it is with a dear beloved friend who is a Cherokee and training to be a medicine woman. She is very gifted and has manifested to me both in my dreams and while I've been awake as well.



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of course it's possible!like astral projection hehe.I sometimes feel like my spirit wants to go out from my body when dreaming and it is also said that when we dream we make like an obe hehe.

A friend of mine used to feel like her bf's presence in her room at night so yes hehe:)



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VanHelsing
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Is Dream Weaving possible? Sure, why not?



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blacksoulangel
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i`ve tried astral projection once..but couldnt concentrate enough..



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thebatt
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it's not really astral projection, because if done right, the dreamwalker can change what is happening in the dream



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wow i have never exsperienced it (sp)



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thebatt
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it's much harder to do than astral



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hey with all the new things we have here now.. dream weaving should not be a rpoblem..lol..
i think is possible..like that episode of spongebob squer pant he was dream weaving.... hehehe
i don't know if we can do it but i'll try.. or somethin gi am gonna go do reserch on it .. i'l let u know as soon as i a m done..



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It really if done properly is more like and feels like a sense of enlightnment.



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Woody honey, if you raid my bed one more time in your night time flights of dream weaving, i'm going to slap a law suit on you and bill you for allimony >:)



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My friend used to claim he could do it. I didn't believe him then but now I have my doubts...
Now if I could do it I could have some real fun...
I do believe in it though as a serious connection between two people whose lives are spititually entwined



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I ALSO believe in it...It would be a truely twisted power to posses in the wrong hands to be sure....



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Wrong thing to be saying buddy, specially with your avatar.

But yes in the wrong hands it could be very destructive.



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Fabulous concept...last time I spoke to an uncle of mine he was telling me how he does it..really interesting and requires a tremendous ability to keep one's thoughts focused...brilliant skill....I am soo envious of those that can do it...

Oh what I would do with a power like that...mmhmmm...lol

Succubi and Incubi come to mind here...YAY!!!



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be careful what you wish for, it might come back to bite YOU!



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well i am do like the idea cause can you just see someone using that to your advantage? so it is could be bad in the hands.



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LifeIsKillingMe
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Moreish baby.... you know you've been enjoying being woken up like that darling! He he he!!! };-)~~~



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It is possible for one to remove him/herself from their own body. A person I knew had visited me one night spiritual. He said it's best to do it when you sleep. The body is at rest but the mind is still functioning !!



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ellie
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that would be kewl to do but i have never hard of it



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oblyvia
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I definitely believe in dreamwalking. There are many stories of the deceased contacting a family member through dreams. While this could be written off as the subconscious playing games, the message the deceased is sending often proves useful, making it appear ligitimate.



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well i font know, but i do think when you dream about some one it has some signifigance to it. i think all dreams mean something.



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This is very different from the deceased contacting another, and being asleep merely opens up the mind to see what cannot be seen with the eyes, meditation or sleeping or peaceful resting of the eyes can allow the dreamwalker to enter anothers mind through those same means. But yes concentration is key in everything.



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i have heard of the posess but never read how to do it. but it is a bit out of my depth



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out of body experiences....astral travelling....shamanic journeying... dreamweaving....all different facets of the same ability....simply with a different activation principle.....



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i had a friend how once was possesed by a demon, it was awful... i want to forget but i just cant sometimes...



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Possecion is one thing, but to dream walk is another. Dreamwalking isn't dangerous or controling.



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What's THIS exactly?



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HowlingWolf
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Astral journeyin which ur soul or astral projection takes leave of ur body. I ve seen the world so many times like this and ive seen so many things. its so much fun. Any1 want the spell?



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The Cherokee, my ancestors. knew what they were doing... of course this is a real thing... I have never experienced it or tried it, but anything can be done if you put your mind to it ( not meaning to be cheesy )... Even I am capable of breaking my mind... I was able to fool myself into not breathing for over five minutes... The mind is a great and powerful thing that we all can controle...
*~Gylanah~*



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I believe it is very possible to do, but I don't know how the people would complete it.



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Dream Weaving is possible, some call it a gift because there are those that cannot handle the reality of the power that it gives you. Astral plane.. yeah thats the easy part...



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i totally think it is possible but i don't agree with the terms...if that makes any sence....lol



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dream weaving is a very old ritual as some people call it. it requires concentration and reliablitlty on your power to see yourself drifting, floating into a space of someone's dream.... not everyone has the power and patience to even try to dream weave others it comes easy to them....



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It kinda feels like when you're awake, but feel asleep and then feel like you're not in your body anymore. behind yourself or in front of. it's an awesome feeling.



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don't think so. ur spirit has to stay in this world or id be gone



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ummmm...i think it is possible very possivle



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it is possible if u believe it can be done...and for that fact it is interesting



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blah



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well.... yeah it is very interesting but some people just don't get wat the question is.......:)



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i think its possible... but only for a few people who are trained in it, or have a gift.



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It's a very interesting subject. I want to read more into it. Never really had an experience with it myself though.



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it can be done i have been through a "dream weave" it is very hard to stay in focus and keep your soul in your own body but it can be done.



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man i am sooo0o sad this makin me deppressed



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dream walking or even astral projection is not depressing. more like flying with restrictions of an airplane or a body. But the sensation of soaring amoung the stars that are nonexistant.



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I am often visited by others i dont know more in dreams......



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i think it is posible and a damn cool thought



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i think it is possible and KICKS ASS!!!..lol



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I think its totally possible I also think that visting other realms is possible as well



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it is possible i think but i am not totally sure about the realm thing



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I have done it before. i have visited my friend because she needed my help desperately. it was weird, kinda undescribable.



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it is possible to do that..



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It is undescribable, but if i had to but into words, zero gravity and a sense of weightlessness.



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well i thought the realm thing was for witches??



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I rarely hear of this but i hear it's common to everyone you share deep feelings for or people who are close to death.. they contact with you through their dreams and other such events to let you know important things or deliver certain messages.


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I believe that it's possible for people to do that.... It's quite common among some actually..



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really i didn't think it was common!!



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its not comon at all, but highly plosable if they set their entire being on it.



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blacktear
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well i think it is possible but i mean anything is possible as long as you know wat you are doin...i mean like visting another realm as long as you know wat the hell is goin on... i think things are very possible and then there are alot of people who think they know wat they are doin and it doesn't work soo they think it is not possible but people who know wat they are doin get it done right and it works cause they KNOW wat is going on!!!!!!! so yeah it is possible i believe it works but i don't know how it works...soo yeah...lol



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hey, i've had the feeling and have done it about three times and still can't get it down to a pat. Don't really know what i'm doing until i'm actually doing it.



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I have a very close male friend who can do this and he has walked into my dreams many times. He has walked in during embarassing moments. It takes considerable amount of meditation, well not meditation just the only word I know to describe it. I asked him how he did it and if he could teach me, he said no and no. Dreamwalking is something that is just in you.

I have about 4 friends who can do this. Most of the time they leave me alone, but there are times when they just try to mess with me. If I had a gift like that, I don't think I would abuse it like that.



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HellChildDami
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I'd love for someone to weave their way into my nightmares and make them stop; so i stop having to make myself wake up and have a splitting headahce so bad I'm almost blind from it ... anyone has any ideas as to why this happens (besides physical, I've had CT's and MRI's they show no reasons) I would love to hear your theroy's on this ...



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one could try sleep accompaning medication for nightmares, but to be able to visit another in a dream and make such things that happen is an awesome thing to see or do.



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i belive in dream weaving cause it seems like a form of O.B.E but used some times in a sleep sate



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art you doing it know



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HellChildDami
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I've looked into medicines.. but medicines to help you sleep soon be come too addicting ... you find that you cannot sleep with out them no matter what .. as I am already much that way the last thing I need is to add a chemical addiction to it ...



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true, ever try something called S.E.R.V.A?

it's a stress release protocol that can be self induced and allow one to sleep freely



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blacktear
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wow i have never heards of it.....lol



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dream weaving is of a state of concousness,
where one has complete control of their dreams
that the body remains still while the mind and spirit travels out of the body.
Yes this is also called astral traveling
Outer Body Experences (obe),
dream walking/surfing
or what we consider to be dreams.

I have to admit that everyone, every animal on this planet dream,
So what is there to say that we all dream?

Some remember better then others,
some in only blk & wht, and yet
we all have a way of traveling to a place where time had no meaning and
you are not confined to one place
(your body).

Eveyone dreams,
not everyone can Astral travel/OBE

Where it is controlled by proper breathing, body relaxation, mind clearing and focusing on your spirit and feeling it as it gets lighter and flows away form your body and well be for you know it your astral traveling.
>:D



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i think it's realy wery posible.you could do lot's of thing's in your or other persons dreams.
you just need to know why you are doung it and be really wery carefull.
thare is several book's writen about so called " Dream Weaving ".
So if you are interested you could read them.



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I have tried this ONE time before with someone. We had both decided to make a place that we knew quite well a meeting point. That night before I went to bed I concentrated on where I wanted to be. Well, needless to say, instead of being where I should have been I was at a place that was like it. I believe the meeting place a cedar mill. I was at a mill. It looked as though there was a school to the side. I remember alot of young children there in tattered old clothing. It would have been around the time of about civil war I will say. Give or take some years. I remembered seeing a few adults. The children were being beaten and abused verbally. I tried to wake up and couldn't. It was a horrible experience. I have never tried since.



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This is a practice that dates back to the earliest of civilizations, several references, not sure how much is still in practice today



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fullmoonfever
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I believe it is possible and have also commonly heard it called dream walking



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Dhampir
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Dream weaving= strong acid.. simple as... you can;t contact the dead or other things... thats just fucked up on drugs..



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It's quite possible with enough practice and meditation and several days participating in a ceremonial sweat.



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Vampireinchains
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Everyone can do it given the right link or wavelength pattern what do you think...?



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lunarvampiress
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yah i think it could happen i woud defanantly like to try



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lunarvampiress
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astral travel now that's a virtue I must ensue



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shadowofdeath
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i believe in it. and it is very much fun.



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I believe that anything is possible, though I have'nt known anyone who has experienced it.



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aliandra
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i think its possible and it is an interesting concept



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karla
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I think if the connection between two people is that strong anything can happen even out of each others presents



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bloodplay84
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18:37:07 Jun 22 2005
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100% believe it...
-Stacey's Chick



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I believe it, it happens



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23:55:14 Jun 22 2005
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i have used this from time to time not at all when i want though. some times it is a very tiering experiance. but to answear yes i belive it
happens. some times it's hard to remeber what happens.



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