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The adjectives that pop to mind when I consider fictional vampires are: ravenous, depressed, lonely, sensual, which all touch on romance, but yet are not fully romantic, or are they?

Please give your opinion on Vampiric Romance.

I would think that if a vampire found their soul mate - vampire or human - he/she could spend an eternity with that special person. (Of course, the human would need to be bitten and turned into a vampire too, for the eternity part).

Whatever they deem as romantic to them would work.

It depends on how the vampire was tough or raised in a
vampyre family.
I mean,one type of family could be the romantic type which respects others mates with passion and with many
rituals.
Mating rituals..to make them happy and feel love within
the chaos of this world.
some vamps can be raise around or with others that don't give a flapping fish..about romance.They could be
very aggressive,alone,and hot tempered.
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romantic to a vampyre.
(my brother is a romantic freak..lol)
They love to treat there mates to anything they desire,
make them happy,give flowers..special ones.
Feed off one another and giving bliss and power transfers.Do things by candle light,treat each others hearts as they were one.being open minded,and
share each others needs and wants.
Just being there..and taking in every breath the
other outakes.

I would imagine vampires to be too tormented to really experience romance in the way depicted by our pop culture. But it all depends on what fictional type you're going with. The Edwins and the Angels can pull it off nicely, but the beastly vampires from the horror flicks are anything but romantic.

Not to stereotype or any such nonsense but I could say that to literally sweep a woman off her feet in a circular motion called dance to make her dizzy, is an excellent way to keep her disposition sweet. As long as she is under the vampires control, then the nature of the vampire remains as such.

To control the environment around the individual including society, is a rare gift indeed. This does not necessarily require role-play to carry on in that endeavor.

Think of Bram Stoker's Dracula as a good reference, or Vampire in Brooklyn.

Bah, vampires were only romanticized in the last couple of centuries or so. Before they were thought to be hideous risen corpses, cursed things, more like mindless zombies. There's nothing sexy about that, but authors (Bram Stoker in particular) saw them as something that they could potentially turn into something beautiful.

I think the modern Vampyre is just as capable to feel love as a human does. They feel loneliness, depression and sadness. I think that finding someone who understands them and does not fear them is the key to them being happy. I believe vampires in general are so mysterious, it allows them to be extremely seductive.

I believe they could have a romantic side to them...in their time of need...if you know what I mean.

For me the romantic side of the fictional vampire is that looking for a lost love. You see it in Coppolas version of Dracula and you see it in many other movies about vampires. All are looking for someone to spend eternity with them of course in the case of Anne Rice could be male or female. Some as I said it is merely the reincarnation of some lost love.

SteelIndigo, you and others have mentioned key words:

1. Lost love

2. Soul mate (whatever that is).

3. The inherent loneliness of the vampire has to be in place in order to spark the other two.

the gift of a naive herem.. what a romantic gesture that is, the meal and entertainment is free and plentiful for days on end, you can just stay and not have to worry about anything but soundproofing the place. *wink*

A candle lit "dinner" in a graveyard with blood on ice.

Just a thought.

Yes I do like your refrence Souls and Bram Stoker is what comes to my miond as well, the mesmerization and being swept off your feet, that alone is romatic enough.

Hollywood has added to the romance allure of the vampire world lately, before that they were evil monsters that just killed. With interview of a vampire and twilight we see the romance side of the vampire and emotions of them.

With the movies romanceing the side of vampires it shows that vamps have feelings as well and so yes apires can love for ages and have no trouble with it.

In the book Dracula the way Dracula treats Lucy and Mina is very romantic, the chase, the seduction.

Yes I would do it different, imagine a bed with black satin sheets, with rose petals strewn all over the bed, lit candles surrounding the bed, Tchakovsky first piano concerto on the background, and her biting my neck.

Seems to me he treated them differently. Lucy was the cast-off tart and he drained her full bore, whereas Mina he savored for days, dallying, wanting her to beg for it.

Ok well taking into consideration that a vampire has held on to their human side and not turned into a blood craving animal.

Then I guess what we all consider to be romantic would be just as romantic to a vampire.

I think it would be like the vampire searching for the perfect mate and then the process of making that person understand they are your soul mate. Im sorry but to me Twilight is very good vampire romance.

Apology accepted, but millions of people agree with you. The guise of adolescence made that particular brand of romance more acceptable.

I think modern humans, and perhaps vampires, long for innocence, that first blush of love.

Feed on me for eternity.. Now, that's romance!

*giggles uncontrollably*

SheWolf85 basically reduced my entire entry down to only a single wonderfully expressed sentence... wow! :)

Allow me to re-phrase.... Shewolf85 expressed her own thoughts so wonderfully that such also served to eloquently encapsulate my own in just that one beautiful sentence.

Vampires fulfil nearly every definition of romantic.

Emotional Idealism and Esthetics over Practicality.

Hello,

I think scences are romantic to a vampire. A vampires scences are hightened to far beyond a human. They can see, smell, hear, touch, and taste deeper and therefore treasure much deeper than humans can. They see a humans true nature, hear their heartbeat when they lie, smell their scent, taste their kiss and their blood entirly, and they can touch us not only on a physical level but also emotional and spiritual levels. At least as a vampire these things are romantic to me. Also nothing in the world can tell you more about a person then what you can see, smell, taste, touch, and hear from them.

All human beings were made with feelings, so I think a vampire can be as romantic as anybody else, it depends on his/her experiences in life and his/her intellect. I am an example of that, çause I can be romantic with my couple and sensible without loosing my ability of seduction and character strenght.

What is romantic to a vampire? To a real Vampire, a Lovely neck, where hot blood flow, which is the meal and the way of existence of any Vampire.

Romance and romantic are not the same thing.The modern romance forced the Romantic traits and it`s a perverted and slushy variant of it.
The persons who ever read Romantic authors (even pre-romantic) know what I`m talking about:
Teophile Gautier, Byron, Shelley, Baudelaire, Poe, Kleist, Novalis, Holderlin and maaany many more.

Unfortunately the modern public doesn`t read the Romantics anymore and uses their modern substitute: the bestseller writers!Among the bestseller writers are also differences: Stephen King is much more romantic as Sandra Brown in the true meaning of the word.

The vampire of the XIXth century literature is a representative Romantic character, having both characteristic of an angel and a demon.

I am the Mentor of a group named Transilvanian Dark Romanticism.
If anyone is interested in finding more about it please visit our pages.
If this is a passion , you`d better join our ranks!

I'd think long walks in the graveyard on a dark, stormy night. Oh wait, you weren't talkng about me, were you? lol. I think a vampire could be very romantic.

Just as I said!
People imagine different things about Romanticism.

Maybe it would be a good thing to see what the dictionaries think about that.They say the romanticism is:

- Emotional:

"a rebellion against an overemphasis on reason in the arts"

- Cynical:

"rebellion against established social rules and conventions"

- Imaginative and individualist:
"emphasis on feeling, originality, and the creative imagination and on the artist's own personality"

- Impractical and dreamy

"a movement in literature and art during the late 18th and early 19th centuries that celebrated nature rather than civilization; "Romanticism valued imagination and emotion over rationality"

- Escapist:
"An art style which emphasizes the personal, emotional and dramatic through the use of exotic, literary or historical subject matter."

- Nationalist
"One of Romanticism's key ideas and most enduring legacies is the assertion of nationalism, which became a central theme of Romantic art and political philosophy."

- Nostalgic:
"Thus some Romantics looked back nostalgically to the sensibility of the Middle Ages and elements of art and narrative perceived to be from the medieval period. The name "romantic" itself comes from the term "romance" which is a prose or poetic heroic narrative originating in the medieval."

- Paradoxical:

"They emphasized heroic simplicity and their fervent landscape descriptions of an already-exotic mythicized frontier peopled by "noble savages" was similar to the philosophical theory of Jean-Jacques Rousseau."



Sources:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/romanticism

http://www.google.com/dictionary?aq=f&langpair=en|en&q=romanticism&hl=en

http://www.yourdictionary.com/romantic-movement

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Romanticism

Basically yes, talking about past in a cemetery is more romantic then enjoying the dinner in a light bathed restaurant with your lover.

Very good points one and all I very much agree with Upir and D.R. The definitions were brilliant as it gives us as individuals choice in how we may interpret Romanticism

Dragonrouge,

Your definition was so much better than my "Emotional Idealism, and Esthetics over Practicality."

Like with humans, it might just depend on the vampire.

I think that the fragility of humans can pose a romantic air to them. Then again...it can also repulse them...

I would say our mortality and ability to die..

I would imagine that nothing is romantic to a tenured vampire, but rather it would be all trite. As a human, we cannot manage to spend more then a decade or two with the same person without growing restless... can you imagine all of eternity with your current partner?

Scarlett -

I disagree. There are many Humans who spend their entire lives married to each other and still truly love one another. In my own case, I've already spent over two decades with the same woman and could not imagine spending the rest of my life without her.

"What is romantic to a vampire? To a real Vampire, a Lovely neck, where hot blood flow, which is the meal and the way of existence of any Vampire."


Haha! I couldn't agree more.. It's the ultimate union.. the sharing of blood that binds each other for eternity.. Beautiful, ain't it?

Thank you, Nitewulf and KG!
*bows*
There is one essential thing about Romantism I forgot.
In literature and arts there is one new thing that this movement brings in the spotlight and from a unique perspective:

Death!

In the middle ages it was regarded mostly from a religious perspective(a place of retribution or punishment) and during the classic period was an alternative for the hero to escape from the fight between ration and passion.
In Romantism it appears in the center of the preoccupation of artists and writers.It becomes a theme!Death is combined with mystery! After death there is something else a mysterious world from where a person comes back(usually) but changed: think about the canvases of Delacroix(Dante and Virgil),Byron`s poems, Poe`s tales(Ligeia, Morella, Usher), Gautier`s tales(Aria Marcella), Schumann`s music and all the other Romantics direct or indirect.
This is a very important theme for the Romantics and a new estetic perspective.
Also these are essential traits f the vampire character created in that era.

Ramantic to a vampire?

considering the fictional aspect i would say that memories of old faces that once loved feeling would come to be the romantic issue of a vampires life. for would not the dead be just that dead emotional less.

When I saw the thread the first thing that came to my mind was Bram Stoker's Dracula. To me it represented more of a romantic novel rather than a horror piece.

Dracula was deeply in love with his wife who died and that tormented him endlessly until he met Mina who looked like her and so he thought he found his lost love..that somehow she had come back to him.

So I feel that with thier long life span (fictional vampires) that they are lonely and are looking for someone who they can share eternity with.

Well, to me its means finding that special someone to be with forever and share your eternal life with them and have no regrets. I know what I would do for my mate when or if I ever truely find her out there.

i believe it would have to do with the style of vampire

say an empathic vampire would find one who is either overly emotional or under emotional rather romantic. the thrill of a overly emotional vampire would be a endless feast which would benefit the empathic vampire,as well as the donor due to it helping to stabilize the donor a lil. as for under emotional the fact that this empathic vampire could be around the under emotional person without having to control themselves too much or brace for a emotional backlash.

lets say a sanguine i think for a sanguine least to my opinion it would have to be someone masochistic a glutton for pain in the effects of allowing him/herself to be cut or bleed since blood is what thrives a sanguine something blood filled say a mate who is overly into hunting,fishing,or different activities of the like.

hmm a prantic vampire I would have to say their idea of a romantic time would be doing the most chaotic thing possible with the other whether it be playing simple april fools day pranks or as massive as gossiping to a level of actually causing fights to break out.

an incubus/sucubus would have to be someone who can meet their starvation for sensual energies whether it be as basic as cuddling and kissing to a nymphomaniac.

in honesty its very hard to decipher what a vampire would find romantic, as you would have to be in the mindset of the vampire. when they were born and all the way up to their own personal mindset brings forth such diversity that its almost impossible to decide what one would think romantic.So I think the examples I provided above would be the start.Since understanding why someone craves something or feeds from a specific source is just one stepping stone in being able to figure to the extent what a vampire would find romantic. since for most vampire its the hunger the need to feed that thrives first and foremost if left unchecked

...and a geo would be a tree-hugger? O.o

The vampire I know likes to sit in night and talk about stars and cuddle... He also likes presents....hmmmm I think he's pretty romantic... laughs... but then well never mind TMI about to be exploited....

To dance naked in the moonlight, the sweet taste of blood on your lips, from one you wish to savor forever.

I find the romantic part of being vampire is the fact that you must live forever biting the beautiful napes of humans! There is a romance in seeing a glittering white neck pulsing with red hot soul and intensity!

DR is right!
We all have a perverted image about Romantism and vampires too!

These days have no glory and no Romantism:
"You are my heroine?"
lol
This is the new image of Romantism.

a night on the beach with a young 21 woman or man and then the vampires mate comes in for a snack when the other is done with the date lol

Well I dont know what the fuck I am, but as for my opinion: Love that never dies. If others follow this believe it may be why some are so hopeless, they continue to love only one their whole life and around 90%(probably more) of all relationships die, It breaks them, they lose hope and all value in life, so most no longer see romance, love, any of these things. A hopeless monster to most people. Thats my view of these things at least.

Perhaps a hot shower and a fresh bar of soap would be romantic to a vampire

There is so much lined up with all the fiction in the world. There is no romance there is no charm. You ever heard the phrase scared stiff? Well when someone is scared so stiff you can do whatever you want with them. Its not mind control.
Depression falls into this because you've been alive for so long you just want company but they make vampires out to be this cruel creature who needs to be hunted. I think its pathetic bullshit.
Romance is there if it is wanted.

Romance will always be there.. *smilez*.. and yes, a wonderful shower/bath sounds absolutely fabolous.. *sighz*... 21 women on a bed? haha.. Just one man would be enough, really.. ahhh.. but then, he must be a vampire.. :)

The undying/eternal love thing appeals to me.. I'm a hopeless romantic and I feel that when 2 people truly love each other, no matter what kinda creature you are, it is the bond that lasts. That secret looks you exchange, or the looks that say, "U know what i mean?".. Or just smiles in place of full sentences.. I think those are romantic..

The vampire of folklore would probably find that a virgin's blood (or any blood for that matter) and soft dirt in his/her's/its grave to be quite attractive. In this instance, I consider the vampire to of being like any other animal on this planet, like the ant or the pike; a lifeform that is consumed with and by its basic instincts, and is such feral.


The vampire of fiction, however as in Anne Rice and now, Stephanie Meyer, would most likely find someone's ability to stand by them through thick and thin to be an attractive quality. This is not just limited to supernatural entities; regular people are trying to find this every day and every night. This notion, and more importantly, the appreciation of it would be heightened for a vampire, as they are eternal and if they are particularly old, they have passed ages that we would never have gotten to see or will ever see (without being kept alive on pharmaceuticals and or technology).


I'm sure ol' Methuselah's attribution of being able to live 969 years old was meant to be taken more as a metaphor than any else, but hey, perhaps it was true and the Count of St Germain really is an Ascended Master and not a charlatan who died centuries ago :p

SheWolf85 - *... 21 women on a bed? haha.. Just one man would be enough, really.. ahhh.. but then, he must be a vampire.. :)


And so he must be, indeed.

What is not easily understood by others and what truly defines romance for the historical "Vampire" is that this is not about numbers of orgasms or about "satisfying" their woman or women...

... instead, it is about near-endless communion between true Equals. It's about knowing and being known in return as only another or others like you ever could.

Finally those women so cruelly branded "insatiable" by men and treated as "freaks" or worse... finally they found a man who was as they were, which meant emotionally and spiritually as well as sensually. Finally those rarest of men who possessed a woman's full capacities in the emotional and sensual were able to commune fully and completely with women who were as they were... who fully understood them as they were, in turn, understood.


This... this was and still is what real Romance means to the "Vampire."


- Upir'

Let's see to me it's when a vampire find it's soulmate and feel true love for the first time that lasts through the ages...

The two would have some soft but deep classical music playing in the background, in a jacuzzi full of blood and rose petals, as the sip on freshly gathered blood. Soon after making love.

And at least one of them still alive.

I don't believe romance is a normal feeling to a vampyre, but anyone may find true-love. And true-love can be even more potent a lure than warm blood.

Candles and a beautiful women

Anything that is romantic to any common sense person is also romantic to a Vampire. Romance is fulfilling to all. In its own way needless to say.

Romantic to a Vampire would have to be finding your life mate, inwhich they give up their humanity to be with him/her forever.

I guess it depends on the person the vampire wants to be with. For someone who is not also a vampire, I am guessing the normal dinner and movie and walks on the beach. Generally whatever that person is interested in.

For the vampiric partner though, probably the exchange of blood and/or the willingness to share a donor. Flowers and chocolate are nice too though:D

Ha! Irony, you deserve your name for that last. The ultimate vampire romantic hero with whom you exchange blood or share a donor + chocolate and flowers. Who could ask for more?