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I want to hear some of your thoughts on stuff that we have seen our whole life. Modeling in or around graveyards, witchcraft ceremonies in graveyards, or kids playing in them.
I think these things are disrespectful to the bodies that lay in rest there. Kids climbing on peoples stones (which cost a lot of money) or stepping all over a plot of somebody that meant a whole lot to somebody else. Or modeling shots include in the background other plots.
Just tell me what you think on this topic.
Do you think graveyards should be respected at all?
What are other things you think would be disrespectful to do in one?
I want to hear your thoughts.
We aren't slandering their names by visiting and taking pictures at graveyards. Children are children. They climb on anything and everything. I don't think it is disrespectful
As long as you're not causing damage to them nothing to worry about. I do loathe people who let their dogs take a dump there and don't clean up after, but that goes for anywhere.
who cares?! i don't think its disrespectful,there is just a bunch of rotting corpses that are just that,they can't hear you or see you,people are pathetic and stupid to make something out of nothing like the dead.
instead of going on with their pathetic lives they just continue to mourn and worry about the dead.
Well if we think about it......those of a higher power or authority ARE protected and treated with respect. Even tho all that is there is a carcass of what we used to be.....to family members whom go there to visit to find someone making modeling shots or goofing off around their family's headstone might not be the best idea and would come off being disrespectful.
What kids do however is a different thing even tho i believe a parent SHOULD step up and tell them "Do not do that. That belongs to someone." Instead of letting them run around without any teachings of what respect IS. That's just bad parenting.
Well Mortalitas, I care and it is not about 24/7 grieving it is about respect of property in general. as was said a lot of money goes into the headstones. I am not saying that we cannot go and take pictures or anything yet, even the dead deserve respect after all it is their place as too their final resting.
grant it they are rotting corpses as you put it. yet, I myself like to see flowers and nicely groomed cemeteries, yet, as in New Orleans there are some very ancient ones and also in Europe, I feel there is no harm in taking pictures and such and well kids will be kids as long as they do not damage anything.
I was taught to always respect the cemeteries myself and I also take pictures and stuff in them.
I guess it just depends on the individuals. I am not one to go to the cemetery and cry every day,week etc. hell most my family has been cremated LOl
But, I think we should respect the ones who are in a cemetry, because people d go there to talk or whatever to connect with their depared. I do not see anyhting wrong with that.
I guess it is just each persons preference.
I think the dead have better things to worry about than what is happening around the stones on their earthly bodies on this realm.
I think it is disrespectful. If the grave doesn't belong to your family stay away. There is nothing wrong with going around and looking but when it comes to climbing over or damaging then that a different story.
I have seen many grave sites damaged because of ppl who think it is funny to destroy them, and a lot of these graves are very old.
I fear it will come to the day when grave yards will be locked and you can only gain access when there is a funeral because of the low life who go out and cause damage for the fun of it.
It,s not right to cause damage. But if your not actually doing any harm, it's ok.
Graveyards should be sacred. And by the way, you wrote, "witchcraft ceremonies in graveyards", real witches don't perform ceremonies at cemeteries, not my kind of witches. Yes, there is an euphoria with the new generation about Graveyards, which make them, attracted to many young people.
I think all photos should be taken of the dead before they are put in the ground. I don't know why that ever went out of style. Maybe because photography developed to the point where everyone had to smile and look happy. Which is interesting when you think of fashion photography in or near a cemetery. Here you have a wraith-like model, probably not smiling, and duded out in fine clothes. On the surface it would seem as if the photographer is seeking contrast, but perhaps there is also symbolic commentary on the fashion industry and its corpse-like icons. Cemeteries provide a reminder of death in a peaceful, usually non-hazardous surrounding. As such, they are one of the last natural free family fun centers left where you can picnic, play, maybe even make love without the smell of barbecue.
I for one would never make love in a grave yard....I would probably join the locals if I get tapped on the shoulder...lol.
It is funny how a grave yard has all this stigma of being an evil place, yet we flock to them to wonder around and look, spending hrs and hours. And rightly so. You can find a lot about history or someones life in a grave yard.
I for one get really annoyed and sad when I see the destruction done to graves (or any morial in general). These places are set aside to remember ppl's lives. We have to live in a world full of hate and someone trying to take a pound of our flesh. When we pass away it is still done by ppl showing disrespect to the dead.
to cause damage is to be of dishonor that is just how i see it
Graveyards are for the Living, and to vandalize a graveyard, or mausoleum affects those who come there to grieve.
a plot is property.
Behavior in cemeteries is a case by case matter.
As stated, Cemeteries are for the Living, and to be curious with death is nothing new, one way to exercise
that curiosity is to overcome, or place it in perspective by exploring, and interacting with Graveyards.
There are people that tour sites of massacres, and Murders.. they all have their personal reasons, some are more Ghoulish then others.
With some Ghoulish behavior is a phase.
unacceptable period, purest form of disrespect. pend a few hour restoring historical graves and you'll understand.
Well,
First off I was raised a bit differently then most of you. I was taught the the rest place of our ancestors is scared in the way a church is scared. And in this fashion things that you wouldn't do in a church you don't do in a graveyard.
Also, Someone mentioned that graveyards are only for the living, again I was raised to know that graveyards are a holy place for the living and the dead.
aesthetically for the living. It is not an absolute. But if I was to see trash from a kegger in a cemetery, it would make me cringe a to an extent, especially if I had a loved one buried there.
So long as you are not desecrating the grave sites, I do not see it as a lack of respect to the dead.
First Doctor I say well said
Going in and taken photos or drawing is a bit different it's not being disrespectful
When a family pays out so much money on head stones and such these are expensive
its disrespect to climb knock over and be like a Moron
because you have such low morals in life or for the dead
yes our body may or may not be there but these were our final resting places.
No way...you guys deleted my entry...Have I been naughty?...farts quietly...
What do you want from me....It was a genuine post
It was not in violation!
Theban we have deleted your entry because...You state no such thing, instead you delete it!
What I stated I actually...well it was a long time ago now... : ) and I was being humorous with the post.....sorry if it deemed a deletion ^^
When I am dead and buried I will not care who does what to my marking because I would of moved on.
My children play in graveyards all the time...nothing spooky about them.
The stone is in place to remember the person...not the rotting corpse in the grave!.... I have moved on lol!
However no damage should be done...odd that I feel this way, I know....because I don't really care of such things!
Stealing Grave blankets as someone or a few people have done recently is a disrespect.
For maybe they were bought with someone having very little money or made out of love. To destroy tombstones is a disrespect to the family who goes to pay respect.
Other then that I see a problem with nothing else.
My beliefs are:
1.) Graves are for the living.
Damaging a grave is no more offensive than a purse snatching.
2.) The body... is different.
The unenlightened soul remains (spiritually) attached to the body for some years after. Destroying the body before the soul has fully "detached" itself is a setback for the soul.
Id rather have a prostitute set up shop in my crypt than be cremated.
3.) Prayers said on behalf of the dead aid the soul in ways probably more significantly than here on earth. Grave sites are good in this regard... and respecting graves, and praying for their soul is a good thing, because of this.
Technically if we all really think about what the esoteric practices are doing in the Cemeteries themselves, is a respect for the dead since the rituals are in their honor as well as ours.
When a party goes on in a Cemetery, I would see it as a sign of respecting that individuals life like they are partying with us.
Now, for the vandalisms that go on when tombstones get knocked over purposefully, then yes.. This is a great sign of disrespect. Those who do this should be either fined, jailed or both in my eyes.
The Rite and Practices: No problem as I and we (those in my family) see those prospective as Honoring those Living and Elsewhere.
In the sole view of 'tippings' and other acts of deliberate disrespect, that is a crime.
As for the "art" form as noted "pictures": No problem as art is a very powerful tool of expression.
i would be honored to be a background Marker for a Scantly Clad Goth Lolita Model. Photage even after being under, yet my marker may not be in a Cemetery..
They might be a bunch of rotten corpses but people pay for the headstones, no one likes to see damaged cause on their beloved people, it's offending the people involved.
What gets me is the Shady Undertakers, and Funeral Parlors. That takes it to the next level. Displaying a person in a 15000 dollar casket, then raising them after the service and tossing them in a 200 dollar pine box.
Dumping bodies scheduled for cremation into make shift landfills.. that goes far beyond ghoulish, a Ghoul would be repulsed by such behavior, and practices.
Wheres My Damned Shaking Mad Stick?
As dabbler said, cemeteries are for the living. The dead are not there. Personally I believe that damaging or stealing what is not yours is wrong no matter where it takes place. I believe that sometimes we demand more respect for bodies than we did for the individuals when they were living. I believe that disrespect, no matter what form it takes, or where it takes place, illuminates the stupidity of the one who has been disrespectful.

people who do that sort of thing need to be punished servilely. It just isn't right that is outright disrespect.
that sort of action is sickening, ppl who can do this sort of vandalism need to be taught a server lesson. What right do these sort of ppl have to go do a low act like that. I say bring back the lashing teach them that they cant just go out and destroy things
I don't see the fun of doing vandalism at all.
I wish they get haunted, darn it.
well i think they should be respected
but i think there is nothing wrong with having sermons or children playing there if no damage is being done
if grave yards were to become off limits for the respect then i feel that all the tombs from around the world we visit and take stuff out of for museums should be returned as well
I grew up close to an old graveyard. I enjoyed finding the tombstones of soldiers from the Civil War or the Revolutionary War. My parents taught me not to climb on tombstones and to try to not walk across graves. Instead walk around. In this manner I could respect those buried and yet still enjoy looking around at the history of the graveyard.
I feel that those that party in graveyards are disrespectful and usually are breaking the law. In most U.S. States it is illegal to enter a graveyard after dark.
To damage any property not belonging to you for any reason is disrespectful.
Perhaps I should allow my sentiment/emotion to get the better of me. I have family buried and I have a real issue with emotion, being that I don't allow it to control my life (most of the time)
However that said, I understand that they were once living people....and yes respect should be shown. I apologize if I have offended anyone by stating that they are just rotting corpses that wasn't my actual intention....dam my humor sometimes ; )
hey! i was the one saying they are a bunch of rotting corpses not you lol
anyway i don't care about respect when it comes to graveyards,its nice and peaceful I'll admit but i don't give a rats ass if someone goes around breaking headstones and urinating all over the place.
Thank you for your reminder I am aware of this.
This is not a competition about who can be the most crudest or devilish or the most disrespectful or heartless Mortalitas...*chuckles*
Why do people deserve more respect dead than alive?
BTW... ghouls are eater of graveyard flesh. Surely being a ghoul is worse than being a vandal, or simple grave robbing?
Personally, I don't like having that much formaldehyde(sp) in my food.
I just don't see why anyone is so upset about things that aren't even occurring to the body. It's not like vandals or thieves are damaging the souls of the dead (in the manner that Set tried to in the dismembering of Osiris.)
Surely graveyards are just things. Feeling anxiety over possessions of the dead is stupid, surely the dead have already learned detachment from their property.
Burial rites give comfort to the living... all rituals are crutches for the strength to do what should be done without them. Like letting go of the dead. When you allow the burial rites to be a fetter, you damage your own soul... and surely that would cause displeasure of the soul of whom you cannot find detachment.
True, there is nothing wrong with taking kids to a grave yard, what is wrong is the guardian not looking after them. I have taken my kids to graveyards but they always stay with me. They enjoy it as much as I do. They always found it interesting. I don't think it is the kids fault it is the parents.
I feel that taking pictures is fine, no harm done. However I do not agree with climbing on stones or walking on graves if it can be avoided.
The dead don't care. They are long gone. I think dabbler said it well. Cemeteries are for the living.
A crucial part of a civilization is how it treats its dead. We have law dealing with the last will of the people that died. We respect the wishes of those past, and we honor them for the sake of the close ones that remain.
This is also somewhat selfish. One believes that ones requests would be followed after death and that ones remains are treated with respect. That is why the laws are in place.
Children playing on tombstones and taking pictures of cemeteries aren't necessarily disrespectful. In part these are activities that lead us to be more comfortable with our own eventual end.
We should certainly not partake in casual activities in cemeteries during funerals or while people are visiting the graves of their loved ones. And we most certainly should not deface cemeteties in any way.
Here is an Article written by Elder Danial, regarding Taphophilia (sp), one of the first Member Articles I read.
https://www.vampirerave.com/member_articles2.php?entry=23
of cause the dead wont care but the relatives would. I could never or would never allow any of my children climb on or over a grave (with or with out a headstone). To me it is a sacred site.
Jids playing, laughter and fun is not disrespectful f the dead.
How one conducts themselves in a cemetery is in respect of the living, the people who have lost loved ones and need or want a place to remember them by.
Some graveyards contain bodies of fallen soldiers, hero's who should be honored in memory for the sacrifices they have made for there country.
If I saw someone being disrespectful they had better watch out I'm 6ft 2 and have a very nasty temper when I see such behavior
One should conduct themselves in a cemetery the same way one should always conduct themselves, with honor, integrity and respect.
Cemetery should be respected, like walking round graves instead of on top of them, the younger ones will play tho out of curiosity, or to be daring or just posing for pic's on graves ... tut tut
I totally agree LordBaalNox, grave yards should be a place where you can go to honor our dead. I do believe kids should be taken to grave yards for funerals and to visit. Kids are generally very inquisitive ppl they don't always go out of their way to cause trouble (younger ones). If they are taught respect they will respect. Kids have this knack of bring joy. Majority of the time it is the parents who have not taught them respect or to do the right thing that is the problem.
to destroy or cause any damage to a grave is unacceptable in the extreme...but...
i am attracted to grave yards. to walk in them, to photograph them...
and yes...to make love in them.
i don't dishonor the dead...far from it. but i am attracted to the energies found there.
~W~
i like walking through graveyards and they are nice places.children don't as a rule climb over graves i think.desecrating graves is a horrid and incomprehensible thing to do.the dead are very aware of whats going on around them.i think the worst people are archeologists who dig people up.when i got to the British museum i just don't want to be in the Egyptian mummy section.i can feel their pain.
Don't really care as long as there is no destruction, I plan to be burned and dumped in the trash, why does it matter, we'd be dead......
or perhaps you can be barbecued, and you could tell everyone to just eat you.
LOL
sorry...i couldn't resist
~W~
I frequently have lunch in the old graveyard near my parents house or take leisurely strolls through there to clear my head. I also take photographs in graveyards. This is no more disrespectful than photographing the pyramids and such; they are also burial places.
I also see nothing wrong with performing "some" types of magical rites in graveyards.... I think this is what was being alluded to with the mention of "witchcraft". Before anyone jumps on their high horse, I am no way advocating digging up the dead or any other direct interference with the deceased or their grave. Casting spells in graveyards in some cultures is actually common place.
Desecration of graves and burial plots though is beyond what would be called disrespectful. People who are capable of these atrocities should be punished to the full extent of the law. I cannot imagine the effect such a crime would have on the family of the deceased.
in my hometown cemetery it was a local hangout for teens. yes we partied, yes we lied on their graves, taken pictures of them and i'm sure someone has slept in them as well. there was nothing wrong with that. not in the governments eyes anyways. the only time it ever became a concern, most of the time either the cops were called or the person who didnt want you doing certain stuff around their plot, they would talk to you personally. honestly, im an artist. i took pictures, drew, lied down and held a head stone at one point im sure. but most of the time, it was just to capture the beauty and the irony of the life thriving in the cemetery. however, when a gang got a hold of the cemetery, and many others, they were hunted, caught and put in jail for a year or so and then on probation for longer. not only did they have to deal with the cops, but the entire town. all of us respected the cemeteries- mostly the non-gang related teenagers. i think that should give an insight as to the teenagers point of view- well some of them anyways. i don't believe that hanging out in a cemetery is at all disrespectful. hell what would a cemetery be without people to come pay visits. sometimes, people like me get attached to a certain or few families because they wanted to figure out their history or they paid respects to families they had never known before. i know me and most of my friends have. i brought a bouquet every week to a family with a headstone of a lil girl and a dog. then i'd sit and talk to them or just soaked up a moment. it was really beautiful... just to put that out there.
There is a grave yard in Brisbane which bans ppl from entering it after a certain time. I has gates which they lock.
hategurl101 - I don't think there's anything wrong with paying visits to a graveyard, like you said that's basically what they're for. That and having some place to keep all the dead people.
I also think that "partying" in a graveyard and destroying the headstones are two different things, although some people tend to cross whatever line that separates the two.
Very good point about Necropolis and Life. I think when fear of death is eliminated a necropolis becomes a beautiful thing. N.American thinking still fears death too much to allow life in it.
Who better, but youth and children, to occupy our cemeteries? Most have no concern with death. It is a sad thing if cemeteries are only a focus of death.
Personally I prefer my resting place to be a celebration of life... if that involves someone "tagging" my grave, or tipping over the tombstone... isn't that celebration of life more valid, than constant fear of death?
Graveyards are a place for the living and the dead. To see a child run around and look at the headstones is a good thing. Helps put the fear of graveyards out of their heads. Hey it is mostly family right? But to destroy something that is not yours is wrong. period. So walk through it's peaceful and fun to look at the old headstones.
Graveyards are respected by some "paths and/or religious believers", especially those that take into account their "Ancestors", be they blood or otherwise. In one religion specifically believes that it is proper practice to perform rituals in graveyards as it brings them closer to the "Ancestors" that are buried there. There is no greater energy than that of a graveyard, so why would most de-consecrate them?
In regards to children, children are children, they are the innocence of life and spirit, so why would their climbing on tombstones be a problem either? In many pagan traditions, it is said that a sacred circle, place should not be broken, but it is acceptable if a child or indeed an animal enters into it. Would this not be the same for a graveyard?
Just my opinions.
The Doctor- no graveyards in Brisbane allow entry between sunset and sunrise.
Lolita the cemetery opposite the Botanical gardens on Mt Cootha does allow people to enter between sunrise and sunset. The gates are locked over night. I been there myself it is the Toowong Cemetery one of the oldest cemeteries in the country.
I think all Cemeteries should be respected. They are places for family and friends to contemplate and remember passed on loved ones. That alone should be respected.
Children will be children but I don't know many that want to enter a graveyard without an adult accompanying them due to fear of ghosts.
As for photos, I see no harm as long as they are not doing anything sexual, I think that crosses the line.
Defacing, damaging head stones and graffiti are all very wrong and are the ultimate in disrespect.
As long as there is no wanton destruction of the head stones or damage done in any way shape or form then visiting grave yards is a great past time. I enjoy visiting graveyards taking photographs. I find it peaceful there and I always respect the resting places of those that are there.
If we are not making mockery of those souls existing in the nature, we are not disrespecting anybody....
Even we have to respect our first form of life cayanobacteria (stramatolites) which gave oxygen to this world.
Respecting living and non living things we do good cause and it impact on our resolve and cause and effect positively.
Ive known some cemeteries that do lock their gates at dark....and some don't.
for all of my enjoyment of such places, i do think that those that would "tag" stones or destroy them should be dragged out of the place and flogged.
but then sometimes i'm a bit old fashioned lol
~W~
I do think graveyards should be respected for different reasons. It's walking over and around people that may no longer be physically with us but their bodies are. It'd be like walking over someone when they were alive.
Writing on someones headstone or something like that is very disrespectful. You are marking on something that is in remembrance of someone.Would anyone want that to happen to their headstone?
As far as children climbing and playing where they shouldn't, that happens everywhere. At the grocery store, at museums, and yes at graveyards. It is disrespectful to climb on the head stones and possibly damage them just as it is disrespectful to possibly damage any other property belonging to someone else.
As a photographer, I find it interesting that many people have the misconception that when I choose a set, I am just using it and don't respect it.
Graveyards have meaning, messages, and history. I wouldn't have a model get naked and hump a head stone.
In all honesty, graveyard shoots are as over done as railroad track shoots and angel wings ;)
Taking photos does NOT equal disrespect.
I think it is a matter of viewpoint and culture. On certain days those who are Mexican go and picnic with their dead in the graveyards. People have been studying old markers for years and doing rubbings. Hollywood Forever cemetery has parties of all types there.
The cemetery near the Whaley House in San Diego (can't think of the name, was minimized in size and people are buried under the street and some under the sidewalk. There are markers in the sidewalk. Most people don't notice this until it's pointed out. I have to agree that the burials are for the living but I also think people could be a bit more respectful in the memory of someone's loved one and not vandalize or leave trash around in the cemetery. Some people don't care they go to the graveyard for the thrill of being there after dark.
Visting or photos is not disrespectful to those buried there, in some cases it adds to the mortality of the names forgotten, what would be disrspectful is vandalizim if graves.
I use to work in one and even partied in one, yet never destroyed anything of that nauture of these people final resting place
*urinates on a grave* sorry what was that about disrespect?
Aracon....Just a question and to the other posters here...how can there be any energies in the graveyards when all that is there are bones and none of the living? Just curiousity.
The way i see it, the only energy in them are the one's walking around visiting those whose passed on.
Mortalitas, your word means nothing.
If you did not actually go out and piss on a grave, then i suspect all you're actions can't mete your words.
If this is so, your words mean nothing. I was beginning to suspect this, but I am quite sure that you don't practice what you type... and I believe a retraction is in order.
In order for your words to have value, they need to have integrity...
Personally, I like to challenge peoples conceptions... but in order to get the response I desire, my words have to have some value.
I'm not sure what response you are trying to achieve, but please remember that whatever it is you are trying to accomplish, is a reflection of your maturity.
what makes you think i don't do what i type? i do many things while i'm not on this site,some just for mere amusement.i have once with a few others, destroyed and paint sprayed headstones,i find it fun not direspectful,though i know it is to others,especially the family.
Then maybe graveyards simply need to install cameras and locked up gates to keep those that are disrepectful such as the poster above, from doing things that belongs to someone else?
It simply comes down to your personal moral code; me, I like graveyards-not because I'm some sinister necrophiliac who likes to creep around and pretend I'm Nosferatu-but because they're peaceful places, and for the most part relatively safe-at least during the day. But I, personally, would never find enjoyment in desecrating anything that doesn't belong to me, and the graveyard doesn't belong to me. I think that if the dead "feel" disrespected or annoyed in some way by someone tromping around their headstone, then they should immediately begin haunting said headstone trompers so Hollywood can make movies about it. As far as disrespect goes, its odd how in life most people could care less about respecting the living, but will always grow silent and humble in a cemetary-as least from my observations.
it is why people disrespect graveyards that give others the sense of being locked up areas of this world. to many a grave is much like a home. would we vandalize a home without no cause. same meaning in my words.
especially if it was your reletave we are talking about.
i find graveyards a quiet and nice place to be,i have camped out there before as a halloween dare lol
i don't care if someone disrespects a grave,i mean the persons dead! he/she ain't going to give a toss.
sure the family might complain but why bother putting all that effort into making graves look nice? people should focus on life and living and not the dead.
they should just dig a hole and toss the body in and leave it at that.
is that what you wish when you pass, History is the bounds for anything yet to happen. memories or words of the past still linger here in the present.
loved ones should still be cherished even after death comes to call. living or dead it is in some ways the same.
I would like to know if, for the people that for them disrespect is OK, what would they say, if it was them that they were the ones disrespected.
Nobody wants to be disrespected-not in this life, but I can't speak for the dead because I don't know what its like to be dead-but if I'm still in a state of earthly awareness when I am, then I doubt I'll be hanging around a hole or a headstone for eternity-I think I'd just boogey on down the road. Thats just my opinion-still, I don't think anyone should mess with a grave in any negative way.
My family had an issue with someone stealing gifts we left at my grandparents grave. Although my grandparents can't see them or anything, since they're dead, the fact that someone would steal something we left there to remember them by was frustrating. Those were people that were loved very much. Growing up a Catholic I was taught to respect gravesites, and cemetaries are sacred places.
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IveXtastedxthexrainbow Premiere Sire (122) Posts: 2,056 Honor: 0 [ Give / Take ] |
This is interesting to see how we all have different views on what is/whats not ok.
I think they are only for burials and visitation. Should be used for nothing more.
As usual I lean toward SS's point of view.
Apocolypse does not mean catastrophy. It is reference to devine plan. It is a word that prophesies the maturation of earths inhabitants. Judgement day, is the hundred year period whereby the common person changes their paradigm "that man is inately animal" to "man is inately spiritual." mankind as a whole will reach it's maturity. This is more inconcieable to most people than world ending destruction... which is why apocolypse sems so big.
Catastrophies are parables... it is the destruction of memes like government, and religious fanatacism, extreams of wealth, inequality of the sexes, an end to racism. There will be no world ending cataclysm... it is simply the end of the world as we know it.
People like dabbler (and his coterie of incorrigables) will be thrown under the bus of spiritual progress. To them, it may be a cataclysm. *wink*
Well I walk around in them every chance I get yet, I am respectful of the graves. I feel any kind of property should be respected even Cemetries, they are property.
I think graveyards should be respected and children should be taught to respect them. It may just be what remains of someones loved one...but to them, its still sacriledge to see someone disrespect it.
However, a bigger issue of concern to me would be the neglect that some cemetaries see. They arent kept up and taken care of in any way. When someone buries a loved one...its expected that the grounds would be cut and taken care of...not left to be overrun by bushes, trees, or vandilism which happens more than most know.
Some cemetaries are actually historic in that they may have graves that are hundreds of years old and I see nothing wrong with people visiting them. In fact, In New Orleans they give cemetary tours but then again..its unique because they cant actually bury anyone underground.
I believe that taking photo's in a graveyard is similar to photo's taken in a museum. Harmless. Children taught to respect the dead do not play on headstones, grave sites, etc. Most of the children I know wouldn't want to hang around the cemetary anyway. Teenagers hide behind mausoleums, smoke pot and drink booze. Teenagers have done that for as long as one can remember.
The largest problems in my metropolitan area are graffiti and vandalism.
I think if you bury your cat in your back yard and someone takes a piss on the mound, you may be a bit peeved. Respect given is respect earned......
I feel that it's ok to take photos in graveyeards, but it's very wrong to allow children to climb on headstones and such. I was taught that you watch where you step so you're not stepping on a grave, and that treating the headstone with respect is a matter of respecting the dead. I don't care how long ago they died: the stone was paid for and is a part of the grave, and should be respected!!! The older the grave is, the more respectfull I am of the stone because even stones can become fragile!
I don't spend much time in cemeteries, though I have lost a lot of people over the years.
all things aside respect should be given but i do not see the harm of photo's and such. seems like the dead would enjoy the attention they are recieving. Death should be celebrated for it is the passing on to a new realm not the ending of this one only........
Respect should be given to the dead. They deserved respect while they were alive & they deserve it after they have passed on to the afterlife. Most people don't seem to care anymore though. Take for example, a friend of mines father just passed away & someone stole the flowers & decorations off of his gravestone. Quite low & just down right pathetic if you ask me. Here's another one... Someone went to the oldest part of the cemetery & spray painted vulgar words, pictures & just anything disgusting that you could imagine. Now its costing thousands of dollars for the cemetery & families to repair the damage. Did these people that have passed on albeit 100's of years ago deserve it? No! So by all means respect the dead because one day we will all die & would want the same thing. So would our families
Mortalitas, it is ppl like you that say they have fun destroying others property is why it is harder and harder for ppl to go out and enjoy things like a Grave yard. Your actions may be fun to you but it just doesnt hurt the family involved but the towns also.
I totally agree with installing camera's and some form of security so when ppl do go out and wantonly destroy property (yes Mortalitas that is what your actions are) they can be caught and the full extent of the law used against them.
Though it is commonly considered disrespectful, when I die, I actually want people to dance on my grave. Dancing is a big part of the joy in my life; I would consider dancing on my grave a way to honor me and my life.
I want to get The Gravedancer's Lament etched on my headstone.
BeshadowedChild, I have heard of this. And I know that it is practiced throughout the world. This sort of thing wouldnt be showing disrespect in fact it be viceversa.
I also find it hard to believe that there are ppl who suppose to maintain graveyards but when you visit them they are over grown. I also dont believe that all damage to graves are not due to ppl. Some are caused from neglect.
i don't really care what people do to me when i'm dead but i don't feel right disrespecting the dead in cemetaries. I visit them a lot and i always show respect
Graveyards should definitely be respected. That is where our ancestors lie and where we will stand be going.
Question : Do you think graveyards should be respected at all?
What are other things you think would be disrespectful to do in one?
yes, all things should be respected, dead or alive.That is one of the problems with society today, no respect.
True, Sabertooth. The problem with today's society is that no one no longer has respect for anything or anyone, living or dead.
In my personal opinion.. I have many family members whom are buried and if I were to walk up on someone taking pictures or stomping or children running around then I would be livid.. Yes they are passed, but chances are they are standing right there watching what your doing and if they could (Especially my fam) would love to show you how disrepectful you are.. I am a model and I wont take pictures in a cemetery.. When I visit my grandmother whom was more of a mother to me than grandmother I wont even step on other peoples graves.. I walk around.. And as for kids.. I have 3 and I can tell you this now.. My kids KNow whats is ok to do and what will get them in trouble.. So yes.. I believe its is disrespectful.
stomping on people's graves and just being disrespectful disturbs the spirit's eternal rest and will result in their spirit haunting the ones who disturb their rest