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I've seen movies and have read books that talk about vampires that drink blood and ones that drain energy from their hosts soul. What I would like to know is what is the difference and are master vampires the only ones that have that power?




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I can only answer this from my own perspective, which is that of a real vampire, which some might refer to as a modern vampire or human living vampire.

To me, vampirism is defined by the inability to create the necessary energy needed for yourself, so the body balances that with the ability to gather that energy from external sources. The need for external energy defines a vampire to me. Not the ability to gather energy, necessarily, because quite a few non-vampires can do that, but they don't need that energy.

Now then, since I've defined how I view vampirism (I figure this makes things easier for you to understand where I'm coming from), let me answer your question, LOL!

Vampires have the ability to gather energy from external sources in several different ways. They can get it from blood, emotions, latent psychic energy, sex, the elements, etc...

There's no difference between what a real vampire is gathering when they're taking in blood vs another form of energy; it's just the way they're taking it into their body.

Again, this is just my personal opinion. I hope it makes sense. I'm on a slow connection and trying to pay attention to the House season finale, too.



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I don't know, Most of the time when they drain your blood thier obviouly draining your energy. Because thier sucking the life out of you. Basicly.



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I would have to say that taking blood is another form of energy and i believe most of the things seen in movies arent real to all forms and covens of vampires



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then blood is the nergy in a way, but also it is also a transmitter of the essence of the nergy itself of its feelings, its memories...its more then just "food for energy"



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CM is correct. It's more than an energy is food type of thing. Energy, and the ability to take the energy from another living being is not exclusive to vampires. Blood, to me, is a representation of the life energy of the person and as such is also a viable form of sustenence for the vampire.

And no, master vampires are not the only one with the ability to feed.


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I really think that both can give you the sustenance that is needed for some it is blood for others it is energy and for some it is both but it all depends on the person as well as to how it makes you feel.



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when I was younger I use to be a blood drinker and then learner how to feed off energy and now I get more out of an energy feeding then I evere did out of blood



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sometimes there are exceptions and the difference is one is substance and one is energy more like mist but they both have almost the same effect but ech has a very different result



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they are both different a vampire drinks either blood or drain ur energy (not the same sort of vampire is just called vampire as it is draining something like vampires drain ur blood. I have heard of them but havent really been effected by one but kn of ppl who have. apparently u can feel your energy drain as soon as they walk into the room



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well first, not just a master vampire can take blood and energy, they are more experinced at it however. as far as i know there isn't much difference, some people just prefer one over the other. in my opionion, energy is easier to take, but not as satisfying.



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I was explaining this to a friend earlier today, Its not the taking in energy that defines you as a "vampire" its the REQUIREMENT to take in energy and the associated drive to do so which makes you an active feeder rather then a passive soaker upper if you will.



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*in my opinion: Blood is the symbol of Energy.*
Basically, they are the same thing. The only difference is that one is tangible, the other is not. Does that make sense?



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Well, blood and energy are both life sources, but I would think that master vampires would be able to drain more in a single moment, than maybe a "younger"/fledgling.



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There really is no either/or when asking a question like this. Blood IS energy. It is a form of matter and therefore it is energy. If you consume it, it would be to obtain the energy. Even if it's just the taste you like...shhhh, that's energy, too!



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I have to agree with Jenova. Energy and blood are life forces, and vampire draws from it.

I do not think that only master vampires can feed. Be it sang or psy, plenty of modern day vampires drink the life of others and I am not sure that I would classify all of them as "master vampires."


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Let's see...from my perspective, there is not much of a difference between blood and psychic energy...essentially they are the same thing: Energy taken from another person to fulfill a need to gain energy that a vampire can not produce on thier own.

The biggest difference that I have seen, is that it is harder in this day to find someone who is willing to be a blood donor and is safe to take blood from.

I personally have never met a master vampire, but I know that they are not the only ones who can feed. This goes for both blood and psychic energies. I have fed on both, and am in no way even remotely close to becoming a master vampire anytime soon.



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I think that since vampires can not balance their own energy it is necessary for them to drink the blood of someone else or drain somone else's energy. I think that some drink blood because it contains some of the hosts life essnece or energy, and others just skip the blood drinking and just take what they need.



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Vampires that drain energy can take energy from any unsuspecting person. But also taking blood is another way to get that energy. To me, drinking blood is more sentual and sexual. Though I'm sure others would say that taking energy can be just that also (I don't know, I'm not an energy vampire)

Also, I'm pretty sure any (energy) vampire can do just so. Same as blood drinkers.



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blood and energy are both life giving substances but some vampires have telekentic powers that allow them to drain energy rather than drink blood and they (for each there own reasons) choice to do so



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you can gain energy from both sources, the ultimate decision is what type of person are you and how you get the energy needed.



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Yeah it is basically the same , cept some prefer to get there energy from the blood source and other are able to feed on the life energy themselves.. I think it all depends on how the vamp decides or perfers to induce there energy intake..



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i have to agree w/ the way cryingmist worded her response. (very nicely put, btw)
but i also believe while u can do the 2 @ once, u can feed on the energy w/out the blood, but not vice versa.
as far as who can do it, any vampire that takes the time and patience to learn the proper skills for either...



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Now There Are 3 Different Types Of Feeding For Any Vampire Or Lycanthrope (Going Back To Ms. Laurell K. Hamilton)

Blood- As Authors Who Write About Vampires On A Regular Basis...Blood Is The Main Choice Of Feeding..Due To The Fact It Makes Most Vampires Feel Alive And Gives Them A Temporary Power Boost

Metaphysics-My Favorite Form Of Taking Energy...Now Metaphysical Enegry Is When A Vampire Takes Small Amounts Of Enegry From A Large Group Of People...Who See Things Differently When A Vampire Rolls Their Mind..

Sex- Or More Commonly Known To People Who Read The Anita Blake Vampire Hunter Series By Laurell K. Hamilton (Shameless Plug) As The Arduer Is When A Select Amount Of Vampires Recieve The Gift To Take Enegry Souly From Sex....

As Anyone Who Knows Me Knows That I'm Not An Expert In Vampire Anything... This Is Just What I've Learned Through Books And Research On The Internet...



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me too i don`t, but I think of course the Master vampires have the most of the energy



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I am a hybrid and am far from the master vampire thing u speak of.Any vampire can take either form of energy.But both are asked for..not taken.



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the rushes aren't different both r the same but u have those like me who prefer energy but of course i always ask!!! ^^



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I don't believe master vampires are the only ones to feed in this manner and beautifullysadistic put it best... a vampire is someone lacking in the ability to produce their own energy and need to draw it from others. Hence the reason behind the name vampire and why they are considered parasites... not meaning to offend anyone with that statement! Just stating what I believe nothing more...



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Thanks for the better frasing Joli! That's basically what I was trying to say. Blood and Energy are the same thing. So no matter how you feed, be it Bloodletting or just taking the energy you're still doing the same thing. Just using a different method.
Yes, anybody and everbody can do this. Vampires do it as a necessity (some don't even know when it is they do it, but they still get what they need without realizing how they are getting it). Master just means someone who know how to control it, that's all. Message me if I need to clarify any further.



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The blood is the energy that gives this shell its life basically but the soul is not in the blood but the other world essence of us.



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Master vampires are not the ones ones that have that power. A sanguin vampire drinks blood. A PSY vampire feeds on energy.



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PSY or PSI are the ones that drain another of the energy SANGS are ones that need blood more than other forms of feeding.
Good thing about PSY or PSIs are they can feed off more than a body they could use making love for energy or just being around a person or using some form of nature to feed from such as the wind or storms, etc.



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Vampire is the name of the direness feeding on which maintain our grace and energies.

I am psychic vampire my dire is space energy, wen i do not go in space any week, the next week I am faded of psychic energies and faded of grace. I feel that duration low energy and do fetch aura from sphere at the time of low energy in public or when at home, my subtle take me to the space.

sang they have habit of blood and this taste if they do not get coz it earn them psychic energy, if they do not get this during the time duration, the next period goes with low energies, like this alone living peepal do find the way of sucubi or incubi or the lonliness eat them.

Aura vamp do rely on aura from the sphere.



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I don't believe it matters which type of vampire you are they both drain energy just in different forms. I personally don't think I have the ability to suck blood and not get sick. I only use the energy sucking type vampire.



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anyone can feed and feeding can come in many forms. if you have ever talked to someone on the phone or been in a room with someone that after they have left or hung up you just feel completely drained. Thats because in a way they were feeding off of you. They were taking your energy so in essence anyone can feed or absord energy.



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When they drink the blood that would give them energy right? I don't know much about this topic but I do agree with what CM said at the top!



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I've read that a vampire who drinks blood is called a sanguinarius and a vampire that feed on energy is called a psi.



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Like crimson, you can only take from someone what they allow you to. Taking psi, tantric or crimson from anyone without their permission is rape.

So, if one takes psi energy from someone else without their knowledge or permission you have violated that person's space and character.



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Maybe the blood IS energy.

Maybe it's sort of like taking communion in a church- "to eat the body of Christ and to drink his blood" is like a representation of accepting his forgiveness, you know?

So maybe...drinking the blood, for a vampire, is not so much of a necessity as the energy is. So, when they drink the blood, they take the energy, as well...



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listen to a vampyre blood is energy how ever in this day and age it isnt the best way to take energy because of illness past by blood, however there are those who still take blood from donors who have been tested, energy is past from everyone when you touch some one you are sharing you energy,vampyre however can take energy by other means we dont have to touch you, either way they feed us both...



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To me Blood is energy Once u take blood your getting the energy from the person or thing
you chose to take it from.

If u taketo much energy from a person they can become real sick and or die,
then u can not feed off that one person or if u take to much energy u can become sick



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ive heard of vampires taking energy and blood
ive talked to vampires that dont drink blood
just state that they drain energy
im not quite sure how it works
ive been told myself that when around people
they feel drained depending on my mood
but i really dont know why



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a vampire that takes energy is known as a psyhic vampire and they can manipulate and take energy from their host they are also called psi vampires



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im another of those real vampires. i agree that its all about energy, but i can get my energy from drinking of blood (carefully, and only after my donor is tested for diseases), from sex, or from direct energy transfer. the last is the least satisfying for me tho.



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A vampire is a vampire...there are not many types but what there are is many feeding styles. Do you eat all the same things your neighbors eat? Do you like the same foods as all your siblings if you have any?

Things have energy within them...they don't even have to be living but blood is living protein. Some believe those who claim to be living vampires cannot sustain their energy due to a flaw but I have never believed that. I just think we need a higher concentration of energy and we cannot get that out of food. Those that try get fat.

It's all about caloric intake. Some need higher vibrational energy and won't take blood but it has no more than any other bodily fluid as far as anyone really knows. Everything is about energy...calories are energy units so anyone who wants to survive is essentially taking in energy. How they go about it is what makes the difference.



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I mean, me personally, I use both but i probably use energy more than blood. I have blood when its available, and energy, theres a everlasting supply of it. So when swans are scarce, i use energy.



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Yes energy is taken but it isn't so much from the blood as it is from the act really. The thing with testing now is you cannot test males for certain viruses that they may be carrying but you can test females at this time. I would suggest unless you have been with a male donor for a long time, use only females. This is my opinion from what I know of from the health department. You need to have them test for heavy metals these days as well.



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You never know what could be floating around in the body. All the websites that Ive been to say to make sure your donor is healthy.



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With your blood it makes me feel alive it warms that which is cold it stops the pain and hunger that grows when not feed it keeps me ageless and proud of what Iam as for energy we can substain you or drain you keep you under control and addicted by feeding on your energy untill time of need to feed!



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The difference is Sanguinarianism and empathy. Sanguine vampires are the ones who drink blood. Empathic vampires "drain energy."



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the defrence between the two is one needs blood to survive
the other needs to feed of of energy but both get the same results as the other.
feeding off blood or energy serve the same perpose.



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Blood - its not so much the amount it can be the slightest drops, but in any case its enough to give the one who seeks it what they need, like a rebirth in energy.

Energy- is just that energy, if you are not well heart condition so on you can drain the energy from a healthy person. To replace your own health weakness.

In the end it way of blood energy its all a way of feeding..

It makes no difference to me, I can drink as well and drain.. I am sure many of you here know and understand what I am saying..



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Vampirism is nothing about power,just madical issue.
what you seen in the movie was just good story without fact.


some of them even make it worse by saying about killing people for blood,why we have do such thing if we can ask them nicely.


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Im not sure what is the difference my friend takes my energy from my hands & i feel a strange sensation.Also my friend gets a weird taste out of me when she does it.im not sure about the blood sorry if im not much help



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I think someone that drinks your blood straight from your body is also taking your life energy as well.

However you can take and give live energy without taking blood and I don't believe that a master vampire is the only one that has the ability to do this.

I believe that just eating the meat of an animal is partaking of its energy. As there is residual energy in the meat of the animal your eating.



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As the actual vampires of history were neither blood drinkers nor energy feeders, the question is relevant only to those posing as fictional vampires.



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Feeding from blood and psychic feeding achieve the same end. Vampires (real vampires, that is) need energy, and this can be obtained by either feeding method. Sanguinarian vampires (blood-drinkers), as I understand it, have a much greater need than psychic vampires, and blood is an incredibly concentrated source of energy, therefore feeding on blood is a much more effective method for obtaining the quantities of energy they need. It is, however, possible for a sanguinarian vampire to get his/her energy through psychic feeding, but it takes much longer and sometimes requires more than one host/donor. Psychic vampires can also feed via blood, but much less is required, and I would think it's a waste to do so.



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i think that taking blood is taking energy so they are both the same and don't believe what the movies say. :)



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I think that Vampires, fictional or self proclaimed would take blood as energy, otherwise, what would be the sense of taking it? I also think that a Master Vampire may be older or stronger, but not any different than others.



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"I've seen movies and have read books that talk about vampires that drink blood and ones that drain energy from their hosts soul. What I would like to know is what is the difference and are master vampires the only ones that have that power?"




Wow. Seen movies and read books. Well educated in the way of the vampire, since they are apparently fiction.

Who said they drain energy from the soul? Which book or movie was that in? Can this person even respond if they are no longer registered?

I'd like to see any example in any media where it tells me that a vampire sucked the soul out of a person.

No, really, I do want to see that.

And it has to be a master vampire too. Since it's rumored they're the only ones who can do that.

Good on them!



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Personally, I've never come across anyone who was deemed a "master vampire". What exactly would that entail? Master of what? Every vampire (and just about any person at all) has the capability of feeding either way. It's necessity that sets the two (psy/sang) apart.



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I personaly feel the same as some here, vampirism is the need to outsource energy, I personaly prefer blood(aka sanguine)



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i am not a master and i can feed both ways but i lean more towards energy but i love blood it doesn't have the same effect as energy from people but it for its pleasure



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its pretty much to each their own when it comes to this, not a whole lot of people can stand the sight, taste or ect. of blood so they lean towards psy, or which ever reason, it could be simply they feel more energy that way, while those who dwell in sanguine are not bothered by its concepts, but this is just a genrealization, and in such is my personal opinion. much like they ask you at resturants, coffee or tea?



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That's rather obvious. One feeds off blood, the other feeds off energy.


Neither truly exist though.



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i am a vampire...really. i use psi and sang energy....i find it to be different. i think we have all had the discussion about what is real and isnt, but while count dracula may not be a real vamp (or spike or lestat), many of us are.



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Those who claim to be vampires never show proof.

Can you?



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What do you believe to be proof?
The fact that on my eye exams it shows a high sensitivity to light?
or perhaps the rejuvinating feeling I get after drinking blood?
What is it to you?
If yo wish to be close minded im sure there are some anal retentive forums some where that support your opinions.



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could be either, could be both....

personally i'm a psi vampire and draw mostly from strong emotions such as passion, joy, hate, love, anger and pain...

my best friend, is a blood drinker and draws energy that way but both of us steal it from outside sources



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LouisLeMeer -


''What do you believe to be proof?''

Turning to ash in sunlight. Death by sunlight is always a good thing.


''The fact that on my eye exams it shows a high sensitivity to light?''

Proves nothing. Medical conditions.

''or perhaps the rejuvinating feeling I get after drinking blood?''

You more than likely just think so because you want to believe it.

''If yo wish to be close minded im sure there are some anal retentive forums some where that support your opinions.''

I'm not being close-minded. I'm being realistic. There is no proof whatsoever that vampires exist. Which there obviously would have been by now.



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No they are not the only ones that can have the ability to drain or drink.

Blood drinkers(Sanguine), just drink the humans blood, while as the energy absorbers(Psi Vampyres) Absorb energy from either meditation, or concentrating on that person's soul.



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LunaObscure, you're confusing the fictional immortal vampires with real vampires. The term itself is more of a misnomer, as it implies all that is included in the general concept of vampires, aka undead, can't go into the sunlight, etc. But psychic/sanguinarian vampires feed on blood or energy (as stated, either acheiving the same ends) because of a deficiency. Aside from that condition and a heightened awareness to energy and psychic abilities, we're the same as everyone else. If you also do not believe in the supernatural, then you're in the wrong topic, really.



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They are both one and the same in their end result, however, they compare to a taste for wine... some like red, some like white and other choose somewhere in the middle.



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La6Muerte66 -

''LunaObscura, you're confusing the fictional immortal vampires with real vampires.''

No, I'm not. I'm grouping all vampires together since none exist.

''If you also do not believe in the supernatural, then you're in the wrong topic, really.''

Oh rest assured, I believe in the supernatural. I just don't believe in vampires.



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Okay, any particular reason you don't believe in vampires (psy/sang, not immortal, undead, etc.)? Or just a totally ungrounded belief in the supernatural altogether?



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La6Muerte66 -




'Nuff said.



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LunaObscura - Heh heh heh


I think they're one in the same. Speaking only about the vampire lifestyle... You can get a high feeling when you drink the blood of someone, knowing you are consuming part of them. It does something for some people.

You can also get a spike in your energy by concentrating on someone and wanting to drain their energy.



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I don't think a vampire needs to be a master vampire to do that, it just takes alot of years learning it. vampires gain strengthen as they get older. The difference isn't that much. Draining blood takes the energy, not always from the soul, but still from the body. Taking from the soul also mean taking from the life of the person and then energy from their body. Either way it still kills the person.



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I am a psi so primarily I take energy simply by being in a ceratain proximity of whatever I choose to feed on at the time..... People animals elements I can draw energy from all things.... But I am a blood drinker as well and my body converts that lifeblood that I consume into life energy for me just as it does any other food for any other lifeform that exists.... The only difference is physical versus spirtual... Energy is in all things and everything uses it to survive its only a question of how?



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"those who think they are vampires never show proof."

I am not sure if I like where this comment may lead, but let me start by saying that I am vampire. I do not feel that I need to show the world proof that I am vampire. Does a punk rocker need to show proof that he is into punk rock and not a skin head? I think not. Even though the punk rocker wears a green flight jacket all the time as does the skin head. Just an example, not that all punk rockers wear flight jackets, or do skin heads for that matter.

What proof do you really want? That vampires may be ellergic to garlic or are burned out by the sun since a book suggests so? Or that they are immortal for the same purpose?

The question does open a can of worms for the questionaire since it does instigate a very bad arguement. Just because the vampire chooses not to show proof, does not mean the rest of society should hold this against them.

All in all, I would greatly appreciate it if instead of just instigating a new form of discussion in a very bad way, why not instead just ask for it...Who knows, mayhaps there would be a certain individual out there that may agree to show a bit of that proof.

Hell, if anything, I think the great "Don Henrie" did a pretty good job in representing his side of why he thinks he is vampire on Tyra Banks show.

Don't be too quick to judge us. We do not judge you...



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My Daughter Princess Blanchejeiselle and Brother Doru is true. The vampirism truely exist and blood regard no necessarily the human blood, even birds blood or animal blood do work.

I did try birds few time in my life time and even auto-vampirism.



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It was just coz I had to see the impact and the psych led me boldly to sang practice boldly. that is past now i turned to light side.

energy regard i been a conscious player long period and my dyre for space energy. space lies every where. even in you. I was vampyre of that energy force. now i learned to balance conscious.

i am pure light side now. balancing the darkness with light within.

i been astral visitor too.

but i dont practice it for i am vicitim of lucid dreams then.



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blood is energy. no matter where you get it, when you take someone or somethings blood into you, youre also taking their energy



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The difference is the form of sustenance. You can feed off the energy in a room without even realizing it, or on purpose, whatever. That's energy. Or you can slice someone open and drink their blood. That's also energy, but in a different form. Blood is tangible: energy is not quite tangible, yet something that you just KNOW is there, that you can feel without actually touching it, something you just sort of sense.



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