What is your opinion on feeding from yourself in times of dire need?
Obviously, you would gain no nutrients, but I believe that you could trick your mind and body into thinking that it had fed at least a little, and hopefully stave off the terror of vamping out. Whether you feed on blood, emotions, or any kind of energy.
I am not a vampire, so what I have to say might not seem so relevant, but, for me, I feed myself all the time.
When I get hungry, I go to the fridge or make myself a sandwich, whatever.
Point is if you need to feed, you need to feed, survival is a pretty damm good reason for feeding. Seems a bit silly to sit there crying about how hungry you are if you have a full supply within you.
Go for it I think, if you need to, do it.
Nothing wrong with indulgence either!!
Accept what you are, what you need to do and realise that survival requires you take different paths sometimes.
(I ate my left leg only this morning because I couldn't be bothered going to the shops,.......... no,..... I'm serious)
I can honestly say that I have fed from myself. And it does seem to help the cravings for blood. But, this is just me, it could be different for others.
you got to do what you got to do...even if it doesnt give you all you need
Hmm, anyone care to play devil's advocate and take the opposing end of the debate?
What would be the point? If you know that you won't gain anything from it, just enjoying the ritual itself?
Well, I don't currently have any blood to feed from, and I see no point in taking my own (indeed, why take when you know it's to no purpose.). But there have been times when the only energy around me that I could take was my own. And though the satisfaction afterwards was hollow, it did keep me from freaking out like I have before when I decided to just go without any feeding at all. Like I said, all opinions are welcome.
I would recommend finding other sources of energy, so that these times of drought don't bring you down...
Yes, I would recommend that as well. But it's a little easier said than done sometimes. Lately, way too often. Thus, this post.
well i think that feeding from yourself can trick the mind but only for a lil while for your body will go into cravings and it is hard to reisit but and new experience, i have only done it once and it is not to be taken for granted
Debate? There is no dabate. This is just silly. Its the same as eating a make believe peanut & butter sandwhich. If you're a psy vamp, would you not get your energy from the air or the ground that you lie on? Duh.
And drinking your own blood to fool yourself? My mind is not soo dumb.
One must evolve, there are a endless amount of energy sources...Why limit One's self to just blood?
Could not a starving man keep himself alive for a few more days by eating one of his own limbs? Perhaps even just the fingers of a hand? Yes, he would lose through blood loss energy that must be replenished later, but he could buy a bit of time.
I'm glad to hear voices of dissent as well as those of agreement. Thank you Billy and Enigma.
Not dissentment just a better choice. I do hear you. Eleanor did drink her own urine to survive in the desert. And it did keep her alive - for a price. But there are better choices.
I say if you're that attached to the blood and don't want to explore other ways of feeding then why not in the time of need eat a very nice seasoned rare steak unless it's more then just the blood for you. Thus meaning you could probably explore the other areas of feeding. Just my 2 cents.
There is always another way...It sounds more like a mind game you want to play with yourself, with no positive energy gain...
I'm not a vampire either, so again, i'd just go to the fridge.
For those who are, maybe it's kind of moot b/c you're recycling what you already have and not gaining anything.
I like my own blood , but i dont feel like my thirst is over... so it has no effect....
yes I am in agreement with the vast available energy sources.
To drink from the moon to dive deep into the earth element and make friends with other sources ..even plants along the path will feed you if it simply energy you seek. Even if in a concrete cell with nothingness the soul itself is not trapped by a body. However of course, one can choose to have the flesh bag be ones prison ward, or keeper. No the journey can be made and energy obtained.
And servitors...well anther topic but they feed a master well, if properly trained for so so many chores.
As a psy, I have never had to drink blood. I feed from whatever source is available. Electicity and heat are two of my favorite sources. Earth always makes me feel a bit sluggish. Of course, energy from another person is my favorite kind.
I dont think it would be nearly as fun to have to feed off oneself. I prefer to see another bleed. LOL .I guess I am in it for the interaction,....that is what makes feeding attractive in my view.
true earth for energy can make you sluggish..you based on what you noted, seem fire elemental so you must make friends with salamanders...lol. mentally you can reach anything is what I mean. So journey to the fire element. Fire people also do well with air, so air energy could work for you as well...may not be as much umf! but would do for the moment.
I approve of self feeding, so long as it isn't "harmful"...like...DON'T HIT A VEIN and you'll be fine.
well actually i've never had the problem i get energy from all over and every where and don't have to try my body just absorbs energy now i would take my own energy if i had to but not my own blood no point i accept what i am the person doesn't kneed to know what im doing i just do it lol
Good point, bathymskiss. I've noticed that myself, and was planning on the 'journey' for a while. Never took the time to actually do it, though.
Every sang should make it a point to find a secondary source of energy for those times when blood is hard to find.
theres an old story about why the moon turns red somtimes and the jist of it is "once a vampire was capture and since the people who captured him didnt know what to do with him they locked him up in a brick wall and seal him away, many weeks past and the vampire eventually broke down and started to feed of of himself because he refused to die, when he had drained himself compleatly the moon turned a blood red!"
Feeding form yourself only gives u the taste and sensation of blood.. i suppose it could help.. but it doesn't give u the life energy that taking form someone else would
i drink my blood all the time
if I dont for awhile i begin to miss it
its just so ood my mom thinks i nuts cuz ill have cuts on me and i just tell her i was drinking my blood
Kansas... yeah parents tend to do that when they see their kid with cuts all over them...
make sure u don't cut anywhere dangerous.. upper arm is the best place..
yeah she would freak out at me so i started cutting on my legs she would shit herself if she saw all those scars and carvings
Yeah.. just don't mutilate yourself too bad.. okay?.. scars kinda suck sometimes
they do sometimes the ones on my arms i dont like cuz when i with family that dont know this was ever a problem i have to where long sleeves
i just carve things now there pretty
okay.. but some parts of it u will regret later.. everyone always does..
I would think drinking one's own blood is about the same as having sex with yourself!
My self I have had not to feed from and tend not to , no matter how despereate it may come to that , It may stop the craving for a bit but what do u when you need the feeding next
Btw mine was just a guess I don't drink my blood neither of others.
Ehhhhhhh drinkin my own is iight I guess. But not to much at a time. I am afraid of taking some else's blood. Not sure if I should even try..
I think it is okay. but people who are cutters need to find a way not to trigger those urges while feeding from themselves. possible bleeding of the gums.. ..
That is my opinion.
Sure, a drop or two would not hurt-- so it is said. Honestly though, recycling your energy without purifying it either by a romantic touch or moment with someone of the same mentality as you, it could cause you to go into even more dire of straits.
I dont drink blood...but if i had to I would if I were a blood drinker...I dont think you would get anything out of it..kinda like recycling...but you can make yourself think that it was okay!
ok, this is beyond me. It seems absurde and pathetic for some reason to me. I don't think the strong, elegant vampire is meant to feed off of themselves. Besides the fact that I don't like the taste of my own blood id just never do it. There is something about it I feel id just never lower myself to do.
It's not recommended, but I guess "any port in a storm" if it will partially satisfy the cravings.... I've heard that it doesn't but I've not had any experience in feeding off of myself...
i like to have occasionaly have a drink but not to the point of craving it
If I'm craving blood, and don't have a willing donor (which has occured a lot lately, due to my lover/donor being away with the military) I will feed from myself. Of course not a lot, and not in a harmful, or even noticeable way, but I do. I love tasting my own blood best when it's from my lover's lips... hehee...
You don't even want to know what I thought this thread was about when I read the title- lmao!
if it came down to it, id drink my own blood, but i usually end up begging my sis to let me drink from her when i cant get anyone else.i cant fool my mind into thinking im not hungry, but the taste of blood is welcoming and familiar and comforts me a bit.
i don't see how that would help...
feeding is from a need... a need for blood... if you need blood then taking it out of yourself is never a good idea.
consider this, what you drink doesn't go back into your stream. or at least not all of it. so you'll actually be lowering the amount of blood in your body, even if you drink it yourself.
I was dissappointed to learn that this was indeed not a thread about masterbation as I had hoped :(
my suggestion is dont get into that situation where you need to feed off yourself.........as was previouley stated a minion or 2 would be a good alternitive.lol
Being a psi I learned to feed off other things besides myself nature,earth,electrical,batteries.Anything but myself,because it really doesn't help or stop the craving and just makes you weaker.
Also being a psychic, feeding off the energy of the sun and releasing the negative energy back into the earth to be recycled by plants seems to keep me in abundance of energy that i need. I dont feed on blood except when cut by accident or while cooking meat, I will chow on some raw meat while cooking which i only have cravings for when i see the blood.
that is a good question .. i was weak at one time and when thinking the thought of blood made me want it that much more. well accidently i hit my hand in the car door and it started to bleed .. i licked it i really grossed out some of my other friends but later that night i cut my wrist just so i could taste blood .. i did not make me feel unweak but it did settal the urge of wanting the teaste.
I would have to say yes. I have fed on myself. I don't anymore. I have learned how to feed on limitless energy. But to those not yet so trained, I say go for it, as long as your careful.
masturbation is good :) but yeah i dont like sucking my own blood
Drinking from yourself is pointless. There is no extra rush in the feeding. Like when you cut yourself, and you suck on the wound, it doesn't give you anything back. It may taste good and all but it's empty.
Feeding from yourself would be like getting Mexican food at Taco Bell.
Edible - but why?
I belive that there are so many different types of food out there ,why harm ones self? except for the rise and thrill of cutting ones self to see blood and to feel the pain....
I'm a Fire element. I have drank from myself-which always made me feel like some one else was looking through my eyes. When I drank from my boyfriend; who is an Earth elemental, I always felt like I was dying. I don't drink from him anymore.
i have never been in a situation where i have needed to so i cant imagine your suffering. but i supose it would be the same as feeding from an other
Vespertilio - It would seem that as an action merely to stave off a craving, you could find some comfort in this process. The long term affects of convincing yourself that your no longer hungry seem to be worse in the long run.
When we're physically hungry (I mean genuinely hungry), it's a sign from our body that we need to eat. Tricking ourselves there is counter-productive. It might alleviate some discomfort but that discomfort is there to tell you to eat. A craving is a different story since it's not caused so much by hunger as by a psychological need. Tricking yourself there is a bit more useful.
So i suppose the first step would be in deciding if you have a craving or a hunger...a desire or a need. IF it's a need, then you need to feed.
As a psy, I must say that I have survived on the energy from nature for quite a while. And I believe that some of the others are most correct when they said that you shouldn't limit your energy sources to just blood, as in the end, it is the energy from the blood on wich you feed.
Jareth - but as a psy, your not really feeding on yourself but the natural energies around you right?
i don't think that it is a bad thing to feed on yourself. i don't think that it can trick your mind and body though. your mind is a very powerful object and it is not easy to trick it with such delicate subjects. being a psy i don't have as much personal experience as others, so that is all i can give on that subject.
I am a Psy *raises hand* ...anyone else feel it is weird about how i feel when I drink from me and my b/f? Is that abnormal??
Well... for those of us who are psi the 'mind' trick wont work... you cannot feed off of your own energy... its what feeds you to begin with... draining your own battery to refill it is completely wasted
Sucking your own? no-no...
and I'm not into sucking blood either...just not safe!
Well..... safe or not it would do most Psis no good... granted there are cross types I am sure..... but it would do nothing for me other than let me enjoy a lick. I Happen to like the taste....
Like everyone has already stated you dont gain much from it or after time it will have to become an all the time thing. The mind is not stupid so it may only work once or twice. I say find another source. A rare steak is always good. *licks lips*
everyone has pretty much said it, it gives you no nutrients, so why do something that will maybe only work once... perferably I don't like the taste of my own blood anyways, speaking of blood I got to go find me a donor...
I'm glad some people got the masturbation joke in the title. And thank you for the good advice FelixFelix.
LMAO How could most of us not? Some are just less prone to MENTION it... doesnt mean we arent .... thoughtful ;)
Yeah, but a mention every now and then makes me feel so warm inside.
Vespertilio - You're welcome, just don't throw out too many jokes about all of us 'lending a hand'.
I guess if there would be anyone to drink from yourself would be the best bet
dear Gaia, please no hand jokes... the entire northern US already has plenty of sel-service jokes thanks to the gas stations ;)
well, if Ron Jeramy can so it? Serioucly though, a trapped cyotie will knaw off it's leg to free itself, survival is a game never to be playe farely...
To drink of thine own blood is surely an act of desperation. Only feasting upon the blood of a living mortal can quench your undying thirst and lust for blood. Be ye sang or psy there are plenty of opportunities in our modern world to feast, donor and victim alike.
IF THAT IS ALL THAT IS AVALIBLE.... HOWEVER DO NOT MAKE A HABIT OF IT.
feeding on urself well ok if it needs to be done then go for it,but i allways have donars on call just for that purpose,in case i can't find my regular donars
I can't say I have for the need to just plain have blood. I don't get cravings or anything so I'm probably of no help. But I can say if it was me I wouldn't really because by the looks of things it doesn't seem like it would help the craving because all it's doing is bleeding and going in your mouth and right back to where it started.
When I feel the need I either cut myself and decant what is left over or have a nice bloody rump steak, that way you are getting all the nutrients, and proteins needed for survival. Some people may say feeding off yourself does not benefit you, but if you look back to the medieval times on how bloodletting was used to help a person, then you begin to understand why the need for self bleeding in some is greater than that in others.
Well in fairness bloddlettting was used a lot, but not always for any good ... but you have a point.
However, I suppose feeding on one's own blood supply would also depend on how "diet-dependent" one is too wouldn't it?
Bloodletting is fair? I had no Idea. I dont see whats wrong with it in times of great need.
Chazeroth - bloodletting in the middle ages was used to 'release the ill humors' of a sick person. More often than not it would kill them. Unless you are suffering from tainted blood or inner devils, I fail to see how following medieval medicine would be a good guide for health ;) Remember that they also had a habit of burning the real healers (midwives) as witches so I don't put too much stock in the lessons of early doctors.
True, but bloodletting is coming back in style for certain medical issues. Live leeches can be very useful for draining blood below the surface of the skin, and more and more doctors will admit to their usefulness. However, that's a subject for another day. Thank you everyone for such wonderful opinions, and for the great jokes that slipped in. Sang or psy, there may be times of great need, but it's always better to have a donor on hand. Or at least a victim.
i feel i need to bleed, nearly everynight. i dont always taste it, just watch it and play with it makes it all better...somehow.
it gets worse everytime.
remember what Darl said to Angel after he got a soul......................!
pathetic.
a vampire shouldnt have to feed on him self.
I couldn't imagine 'feeding' from myself, in any form. Yes, if I cut myself, I suck the blood from the cut, but that is just natural I think, for alot of people.
I've yet to 'awaken' to the sang side of me, mostly out of fear and also out of a 'teacher'..though there is one who wishes to help me, but he lives in another state so that is on hold.
However, the psy?/empath side of me could never give in to 'self feeding'...that would seem terribly draining. If I'm really desperate for a mental pick me up, I just hit the mall or something and feel a lift from the energy of the shoppers. It's the easiest for me. However, and this may sound a bit strange, it only gives me a mental boost, there is not much of a physical lift in all of this, tho I wish there was.
Here's another point. The digestion of blood releases very specific endorphins and such into the body, into your blood. This causes a change in your energy. This change is one of the reasons for drinking blood. My blood in my veins will never cause this to occur. I can ffed of Reiki energy and never feel the energetic need to feed, but when I feel the need for the change in energy only the drinking of blood induces, and I have no one to feed from, why not feed on myself. Think about it.
well if youre desperately thirsty would you drink your own urine? Sure drink your own blood if need be..
I can not see how feeding upon ones self could feed the need for blood. Yes your bood can tell the difference between your blood and the blood of another person.
i wouldn't know i don't drink blood. but you canyour mind into thinking that it was someone else's blood then you would feel filled and you would seeminly get the right nutrition for it.
if you were in that much need for blood u could, but it would be reduntant to do so
Well is is not as good as the real thing..... but good inough to get rid of a craving
I dont think it would be very harmful,personally I wouldnt do it though,see no reason too...
What ever gets you through the night...
Personaly ouch..
just the thought of sucking on my own arm grosses me out..
But Im not sanguian...
But I do get Energy withdraws..
I'd wake up in the morning twitching like a herion feand...
It took me to move my bed to the floor and keep lower lightbulbs in the house to help me...
hehehe...over 100watz and they tend to pop on me..
Master Thoth - I'm intrigued by what you said about endorphins. I've never heard that but it makes a certain amount of sense and would explain the rush one gets after feeding, however, it would seem that since endorphins are chemical produced inside us, and not a digested byproduct that it's the act of feeding or digesting blood that causes them and not the type of blood...so endorphins would be produced with the digestion of your own blood as much with anyone elses.
They are linked to appetite so it's a very interesting theory.
i find no real wrong in it, but you can't trick your brain and don't make a habit of it.
I haven't drank from anyone; including myself, in little over two years
Feeding from your self only gives you the taste and sensation of blood. I suppose it could help. But it doesn't give you the life energy that taking it from someone else would.
In tiems of dire need, yes to stay healthy and one step ahead of anyone who may try to harm me. I make sure I can feed on someone other myself in every circumstance.
It's not a bad thing. I just don't feel it helps any. I get more help from drinking orange juice or fruit juices because they contain some energy, not as much as blood, but enought to help. however, when your having a bad enough craving that doesn't always help...
Feeding from yourself is an endless cycle... I mean think about it, you are taking a cup of water from a big bucket and pouring it through a funnel and a tube back into the bucket. No matter how much you pour through the funnel of you dont get the water from another source other then the bucket then it is never going to fill up. now if you feed from yourself to satasfy the craving then go ahead, but the sustanence will not be there. and if you like the taste then there shouldnt be any problem..... I personally dont like the taste of my own blood....other peoples blood then yeah I do like that
To the person whom that this thread was about something else.....so did I
if pple think that its odd or weird then they can go fuck themselfs. u can do w/e u wanna do 2! in times of need if they even understood what it is like(2 do this) then they would no that if u need it do it!
i never fed on my self and i dont believe it gives you something....
i would prefer to starve for a long time no matter how long it is than bite or cut me and drink my own blood.... its only my opinion and in my eyes everyone should do how she or he things its right...
if it helps you mentally then do it
if i could not get food to eat i would starve
for i am mortal and although i love my vampires i eat what fills me. we all have our own tastes ive got other things better to do with my body
I seem to tend to agree with LaMuerte. I get enrgy where ever I go if I choose to take it I only drink blood whe I have a cut then I suck.......I tend to get a bit queasy with the thoughts of drinking blood from others..
What if you had an open sore or infected taste bud you were unaware of that could led to a whole can of worms....
To much out there now ajax just can't wash off....
what id like to know is if a human not even a vampire could feed off it self... no new nutrients yes.... however you are eating somthing and blood is reproduced not just a set amount running in a track.... the vitamins would just go back in your system... i wish i could get more then one person to actually test this theory... but testing on humans is probably extremly illegal.. especial for a curios 17 year old with no intrest in becoming a doctor.....
alot of you are saying there is no energy gain... that cant be so.... if the blood that is being produced is fresh of energy and you froze it and waited a few weeks ... .your body would produce more blood in your system to replace that missing blood... you could then drink that blood you saved and have fresh energy coming in......it must be so... because blood banks store your blood and can give you it if you get in an accident.... and people can give blood every month and never run out cause its coming back... so these all must be facts... consuming your own blood after giving your body a chance to replenish its lose should be able to feed you and you could live off your self that way...... this is very intresting.... if anyone has an objection.... please please please prove me wrong...
If you have no other options than to feed on yourself than i think why not. You yourself knows that you are safe.
VXVamp- that cracks me up...I can just see you going to a college campus or school science lab trying to get people to volunteer...
"Why? Oh I'm just curious if you can survive this way...I have no intention of practicing medicine" heheh
Blood packing is a proven way of increasing energy...but it's different than this stuff because blood packing involves removing blood and then re-transfusing it after you created more blood. Consuming it wouldn't give the average person more energy.
Psivamps and vamps might pick up something from this but they are usually more attached to the person their draining...taking in energy from the situation or the proximity.
Movie vamps have always been shown as not producing their own blood so in that case, they couldn't survive because they would need an outside food source.
This posting makes me giggle. I can't believe how long it's gone on. And how much *actual* information exchange has occurred. And how many self-service jokes. Thanks guys, but I think it's time.