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So far with love no one thinks you should use magic to make them love you or keep them or push them away.
Nor does the majority believe in using magic to save your love from others.

When would you use a spell that is linked with love?




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00:29:44 Sep 13 2007
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Well, I haven't read the other thread, so I don't know if somethng like this has been mentioned already, but I believe that if a love spell is worded and intended correctly, it can work. My relationship is living proof of that.

Basically, as long as you don't try to affect free will, then you're ok.



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I don't use magic to attract but I have definitely used it to make someone leave me alone. It worked quite well and I could have cared less about their "free will".



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Interesting Carnalxviolence … you think like a chaos user, very interesting.
Mind you I don’t care about karma n 3 fold … I like your answer.

Yes hexica … as above so below so to speak lol
I don’t care about free will, mind you the majority in the last thread seemed too lol



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I would have to say when you have consent of both parties is when you should do it, but be inconspicous about it. Don't say to both parties that yes such and such...blah blah....you get the point.
That would be like setting them up on a blind date.

Overall the safe route is to not do it at all. but there are those exceptions to murphy's law I guess.



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When would you use a spell that is linked with love?

Never. The love between two persons exists or not. It cannot be obtained with spells.



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I do not think a love spell should be used period on another person, their are spells that can open the door to communication between you and the person you like, that is better than a love spell...



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I have learned a few nasty lessons about using magick to attain the affections of others. My issue with using spells to gain the affection of another is once you find out what is really inside that person is not all you thought it would be, you can't get rid of them that easily.

My child's father for example he loved me so much he would have rather slit my throat to see me with someone else. He tried and failed, luckily for me. He still loves me and hates me just as much because he loves me.

I have tried to break the spell many times but you can not force something that is not wanted upon a person.



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I think my friend should use one to be close to her hubs why he is at war.



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The way I would recommend using a love spell would be either in a generic sense...to attract the one who is meant for you.. having noone specific in mind..

Or..

To enhance love that is already present.. a sort of couples spell with the consent and intent of both parties...



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I believe its bad karma to try and use magiks in order to change something that has a natural course

if you mess with that natural course then are you not trying to play a god which one is not?

So I say let sleeping dogs lay, and dont rely on magiks to do the work that is needed from one's self



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love spell are not a good thing for if the person does not love you it will not work out in the long run



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I agree that you shouldnt use a Love Spell to have someone fall in love with you. If they do they do if they dont they wont



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there is a saying, be careful what you wish for. use magic to make someone love you, or attract love, and you may end up with an obsessive lover who will not leave you alone.

i have used love spells, but i always explained to the people i made them for that it is only a temporary thing. you cannot change a persons nature. you can influence a person to draw them to you (or draw them back if they have left you) but if the relationship fails, they lose interest, or do not love you, it is just not meant to be.



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01:01:23 Sep 16 2007
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The spell I did was simply done to attract the kind of guy I wanted, but only when I was ready to meet him. That way, I didn't specify anyone to be tied to me, and I didn't set a time limit. I thought that'd be the safest way. And it's turned out better than I could ever have imagined!



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I believe you shouldn't use spells to make someone fall inlove with you or anyone else. If it's meant to be then it'll happen.



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As tempting as it would be to have a love spell solve all your needs, personally I don't believe in using them. I'd rather have someone fall in love with me for me, than because they were coerced into it. That smacks of rape to me.

However I do support the use of little charms, a "look at me" or something like that, which will attract the other person's attention but not force them to come to you.



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So the question being asked would you use any magic with love and I see on other post people have….



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I never said love spells should never be used...As with the last thread, the year relationship minus the cheating...Was a very good year. Not one of my best in life...But overall, better than average.



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A love destroying potion, to destroy a persons love. So if someone loves you, but you don't love them, you can use it to turn that love into friendship. Only works if it is used by the person who is being loved.



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I say if they are already in love with you that you could use a love spell to secure the bond.



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SteelTalons
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Using love spells to bind or enhance love that already exists can be an incredible thing. It's when you try to influence someone elses free will that it turns destructive.



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to use love potion number 9 on a person or not that is an interesting question there in my opinion i wouldnt want to take the free will away from the person I loved. To me it is better to let them make the choise of staying with you or not cause if they truly loved you it would be their choise and in your best interest in staying with you.



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SteelTalons
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Would you really want to be with someone that you knew was only with you because they're under the influence of a spell? ..shakes head* That's not love anyway.. that's prison.



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I wouldn't want to be with someone that I made fall in love with me. I don't think that love spells should be used...but then again there is one person that I would use a love spell on, I know it is wrong to mess with peoples emotions and stuff but...yeah...
i guess I don't think that they should be used, but my opinion is a little contradictory.



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well..it's not good to use spells for making someone to fall in love with you. it just doesnt feel right. once you get someone against their will either they know it or not, you will always have to take care that this relationship won't fall appart..maybe with constant lying.
and i agree with what BloodRedSuicide said.

as for the spells that keeps someone you don't like away...if it is for the safety and you feel threatened, i agree to using them.



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The only time I would think a love spell should be applied, would be to enhance an existing love or to remove love from someone making unwanted advances.



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charmed love isnt real love and will never last no matter how good a spell caster is .. real love is a magic all its own



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if you use a spell for someone to fall in love with you then how is it true love...it's just something you are making them do....and the risks it holds....isn't it better to be loved and to love in a true state....



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I personally wouldn't use a love spell because I would want to know that they love me not the spell makes them. But I don't think there is anything wrong with love spells just be sure to accept all consequences that could fall out. Not that I believe in 3 fold or anything but rather the law of for every action there is an opposite and opposing reaction.



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There is an interesting book on this subject called "Magia Sexualis"



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I am avery experienced magic user. I have seen love spells work and loves spells fail. And I have seen them backfire. but that dosen't discourage me to use them. if the person using them is powerful enough to use them than the spell will have a better chance of them working.



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I personally would only use it to help the love grow as it was meant to, with no harm to be done to either party...........



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How do you know the love would grow?



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One should never use such things to sway anothers opinion of you.



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Love spells as they are should never be used; they interfere with free will no matter how little the act, are unchangeable and there for will cures the caster. There is no sure fire way to MAKE some one fall in love with you that is the beauty of free will pain and suffering is only compounded by taking the easy way out.



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I don't believe there is any circumstance in which a love spell would be considered to be ok. Love is too powerful an emotion to be messed with..in any situation.



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But what is that free matter or path you call love is doomed to fail….
Would you use magic to keep the one you love, like a butterfly preserved in the love you have rather than let it fade away to dust?



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never would I use magic to have someone fall in love with me no way then the love would not be real



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i wouldnt go for love with a spell

karm hit me already and man it sucks



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I'd rather have someone love me of their own free will than to know they love me only because I influenced them with magick. That's not real love.



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I am way against love spells or any spells manipulating other people's emotions without their permission, hell, in general.
It's just simply wrong, its like mindrape.



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to protect a loved one



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I agree that its wrong to mess with ones head into loveing someone that they do not really love.Cause its not love...and will never be true love.
Dosent mean I HAVENT tried it before.lol.
Yes,I tried it on someone.
It was a very hard spell to fallow.
It worked for only a month.
Then..I got tired of the lie.
And broke the spell.
I felt as if I was poisoning the heart
and mind of someone that will never really
truely feel for me.
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No one has tried it on me yet.
pttt..prob will never work.
I'll keep..to "why" to myself.



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To try and control someone’s emotions would not only have a disastrous effect but it would cause the person being controlled to truly be empty despite the over whelming feeling of being in “love” although not really



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i couldnt use a love spell because i would always cherish my lovers happiness over anything else



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I had to develope my current relationship... A spell would have been very nice and easy, but it wouldn't have been as genuine or wonderful.....

When the words come out of his mouth I know they are real and not spell induced... I also know we are real and not spell induced...



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id agree with that it wouldnt be true love at all. it would be empty



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The day i realise that a horse's ass looks better then my face O.o



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Lol, thats the only time it should be used!



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to save the Life of my love that is the only time I would use magic linked to my love


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That's true, using a spell to make someone love you wouldn't give you the happiness of getting to know the person, letting them get to know you, making things work..And enjoying the result. I think with the magic things would be less exciting. It takes the challenge out. Plus, there's that nasty threefold rule.



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I have to agree with the majority here .. Love spells are not a good thing to use



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i have not done any spells, but my sister is into different types of magics. she did a love spell on this guy and it turned out to be a disaster. this guy was stalking her calling her at work showing up at her doorstep with her husband there. she finally found something that would break this spell.

so if i have to say something then, no love spells are not worth the time or the trouble.



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I agree as well love spells should really be taken from the books. Love is a powerful thing and should not be tampered with really in any ways, its freedom of the heart to decide who you truley want to be with...no one should tell you different or use a spell to force the nature of love!!



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I would use a spell to make someone love me, or to make them stop if I didn't want them around. But I have different standards.



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I honestly don't believe in love spells.
Nor would I ever- even if they were existent, toy with such a thing that could cause someone else such emotional distress. I cannot imagine my free will being taken from me like that

And as for spells to save a loved one- there is only so much you can do, spell and prayer wish before one has to give it up to fate..



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i dont think i ever will use a spell for love cause that would be considered personal gain



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Well I see a lot of people afraid due to a three fold belief to perform love spells.
Personal I know three fold was made up recently and communicated through the on slaughter of wicca books in stores.

I wondering if you would use love spells for your own gain… if there wasn’t any comeback.. which there isn’t



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Well, I see it this way. You can not truly affect love because love is a heartfelt emotion that no one nor anything has control over. Magic can not truly affect love, it affects the mind's perception of love. It simply casts an illusion on the affected person's mind so as to get them to do as the spell commands.

In short, I believe it should not be done because it can cause complete misery for the affected person.



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if indeed you could control or have an effect on love such as a potion or what not. I would never use it, it is within myself that I look for strength, if they cannot love me, then they cannot I do not force others into that which they can't or do not want to do, at least, not in love.



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Yes, I believe whole heartedly in what LaathSweiReborn posted. If someone doesn't love or want you, why lose potent energy on a spell for someone who doesn't give a fuck about you. Love, love love. is actually evol evol evol. Why spend time finding love when you can become a living demon of lust. Having companions at your every beck and call.

Whenever you come into the fold of the true truths of Vampirism, you will attract the opposite sex like a high powered magnet! However, if you must perform a spell ritual for that special someone, it will work, but it will only last for a short season. Everything doesn't last forever, just for the moment.



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i elieve there are right times for spells
like when uboth know there is somthin there
u just need sumthin to bring it out, in both of u



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I disagree with the above statement. You shouldn't have to bring love out of no one! It should already be there. Stop trying to hold on to something, if the person doesn't wan you to.

Be with someone who wants and love you for you.



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You shouldn't have to use spells for love. But, If you're not forcing someone against their will, then I guess it's fine.



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lythiumangel89
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You shouldnt mess with free will. Instead mabye you should try using a spell to find your true love



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The above statement holds much truth.



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xxFallenLupaxx
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Now- I mean this for discussion purposes only- not as a personal attack, rather for my own personal knowledge to the person who stated that there is no three-fold...

Does that mean then, that you do not believe in karma? And that the things we do, don't come back to us?


I've been a victim of karma time and time again for opening my mouth at times- so I just am not understanding what you've meant with your statement.



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Three fold is newish yes.... new in the way it is stated..... However it is not new in its logic.....

Karma... three fold law, however you wish to state it, it is all the same......

Now the topic at hand.... Would I cast a love spell for my personal gain if there were no consiquences...... No.

I do not want someone to love me because they are under a spell.... It takes the free will of the individual. I believe in balance, and to me..... a love spell would throw off the balance. I want someone to love me on their own will and accord...... if they cant.... then f*** them. I'm better off without them.



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if they cant truly love me for me, and not because of a spell wouldnt we both be better off finding pepole who truly careabout us for us? To have a true happiness?



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hell with free will i use dark magic



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No I would not.



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Messing around with free will is considered, by many, to be a serious violation of the natural order and could be retaliated against. So I would never do such a thing.



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xxFallenLupaxx
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What most aren't really taking into account here, I think- is that although 'karma' may be taken out of the picture- we still all have a conscience, and I'd hope that we'd still know that dissolving someone else's freewill is wrong



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Im not so sure about this free will….
When a man says he will die a thousand deaths for your love and a woman says she will love eternal only you… one is lying.
If you cast a spell on someone to love you … guess what .. they love you.
I don’t belive in a big plan in life… if there was and you cast a love spell guess what that must have been the plan for it to happen.
Some cultures married with out even knowing the partner… they fall in love .. and yes they are know to use love magic.



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The issue is forced love isn't real love. I would rather be life bonded to someone who fell in love with me naturally than someone that is locked to me by a spell. I have done love spells before, but it wasn't real love, they weren't my true partner for life just someone entranced.

It just didn't feel right after a while plus getting rid of the person is hard as heck. Also once the spell wears off that person hates you.



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What is love?
A chemical attraction based on dna and social conforming causing lust.
Chemicals change after a couple of months and friendship with desire and needs kicks in.
Seven years wondering thoughts of direction of relationship.



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no i wouldnt use a spell that is linked with love....one can't fool with someone's heart and know they are playin with it...its like gettin played and gettin caught



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hmm.. since i dont believe love spells or love link spells are possible.. i have to think there is good cause for that!!



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really the only thing you can do is a spell on yourself to open yourself up to the possibility of love. anything else is messing with free will and wrong in my opinion.



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well as i come across this again.. i think i would do a love spell id put a good protection spell on my self and also have one put on me from someone else i know its bad to a point but



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True love should come from connection and common ground..not a spell. Such use of a spell seems to be complete falsehood and love is also based on truth.



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I'm just learning about spells ,I don't think I'd use one for love,due to the free will and all,But I'd like to use one to keep someone away from me.Sometimes they just don't get the message.....


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"So far with love no one thinks you should use magic to make them love you or keep them or push them away.
Nor does the majority believe in using magic to save your love from others.

When would you use a spell that is linked with love?"



I would use a spell that is linked with love, only when I need money, and that has nothing to do with what you mentioned above, so I guess ppl would say that I am a good lover.



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16:31:13 Oct 16 2007
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A person's free will must be respected at all times.



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only if you belive in karma, three fold and soft .......
this is a dog eat dog world.. grow a back bone and demand something stop sitting back getting lazzy letting the others take control of your lives .... you have power use it.......... lol



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i do agree that love should be both ways and all but whats wrong with a little evil once in a while not that i consider this evil but to some u may



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17:59:06 Oct 16 2007
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Love spells arnt good , Its controlling the other person and the person wont be the same when under a love spell. You are not supposed to controll a person or put them under a spell of sort



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I think that love spells can backfire on people because you do not want to find out later that the person you put the love spell on is some kind of mental case and then when you try to leave them they might kill or hurt you...



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12:19:02 Oct 18 2007
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Love is a pure and wholesome thing and in no way should be controlled by anything, if it doesn't happen and stay naturally it can no longer be called love



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I agree BloodyVampireRose if someone puts a love spell on another person, then what they have is not real love it is false love, and personally i do not think that is right...



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I wouldnt use a Love Spell .. its So Not Worth it.. Why Have Fake Love? If a Man or Woman doesnt Love You for Who You are its not worth it for the Spell is fake and if it wore off or Someone else took it off them and they now hated You then what Your left still with a broken Heart... Im for Showing my affection and Love to the other and being there for them 100% but not Via a spell.. its the real deal or nothing...



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22:31:45 Oct 18 2007
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a spell to protect them or for happiness, or money. But not to control the love.



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22:32:53 Oct 18 2007
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i never mix magic and love to me it would be to dangeres of a combo that would in time backfier on me



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23:49:40 Oct 18 2007
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this is a very interesting and enjoyable topic



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i dont get it .... love is a chemical change in the brain caused by the other person due to correct dna mix if you want the truth.

whats wrong with a spell to make it work your way?
the partner wouldnt know the difference as they would be in love with you ....?

so it wouldnt be fake now would



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00:42:01 Oct 19 2007
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I would not ever use a spell on some one to love me that is not love that is just being selfish and taking their FREE WILL away ...... that breaks all the rules on any level.....



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I agree
For me a love spell would take away the true meaning of love. Love needs to be true love. Thats just my opinion.



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Gaius
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I was thinking about this and I can not come up with a time that a love spell would be a good idea. Even in the long run what if you ended up not loving the person anymore but they wouldn’t stop loving because of the spell. I don’t think that a love spell should ever be used.



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DarkGodOfRage
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Well from what I've been told, as long as it doesn't take away from free will it should be okay.



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VR System
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