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eternaldarkness1
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17:18:24 Oct 05 2007
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i just wanted to know what your beliefs are on them




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Give 100 monkeys 100 typewriters and eventually one of them will type something that will end up being true. I feel the same about psychics.


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17:22:48 Oct 05 2007
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Some Are The Real Deal , as they are Born That Way , And Some Are Not So Everyone should research before consulting any psychics



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amen to that


like that Browne woman she creeps me out her nails are longer than her hands



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some have a gift...some sre crooks..they have that new reality show about that....if they are real or not



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I believe their are real pshchic's out their but their are more liars who pretend to be psychic's so they can get attention or make money, and thoes are the ones who ruin's it for the rest of the real psychic's out their...



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i think it is fifty fifty, some are real and some want to steal you blind some who you think are real are only reading you through a thing called cold readiong where you answer your self,



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I would never go to one who asks for money in exchange for a reading, consultation, advice, etc.

It's my own personal belief that if you are granted such a gift, then you shouldn't exploit it. And there is a defiant difference between sharing your gift with others and exploiting it.

But I believe there are real psychics out there. I don't know how to explain how they can see what they see. It can happen though.

My question has always been, where do we draw the line of who is a psychic or just very good at predicting other people's actions?

I have dreams off and on about what's going to happen and also some about the past. In my opinion that doesn't make me one.

So what exactly does make a person a psychic?



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I dare say that most if not all are simply cold readers. Its a very old way to play the part.



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18:30:59 Oct 05 2007
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Almost any psychic that is advertised on the tv is a fake. The real ones are the ones that don't broadcast their abilities to millions of people because overexertion can cause the power to dwindle.



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18:46:05 Oct 05 2007
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kool everyone very good ideas and has anyone ever watched medium? that women is the real deal she was on opera. the real medium i mean not the one that portrays her but the real women.



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I think that there are a lot of fakes, a lot of real psychics, and lot of people whose gifts are miniscule. And I think there are also a lot of people from each of those groups who really want your money. It's called being human. Having a gift does not exempt you from being greedy, or even just wanting to make a living.

And there is no shame in 'exploiting' such a gift. After all, artists have a gift for making beautiful images and they sell them to the highest bidder. You've got to make a living somehow.

In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if some of those 'fake' psychics are actually real psychics who do phony readings most of the time, and only pull out the real stuff when it's absolutely necessary.



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19:12:29 Oct 05 2007
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i think some r real and some not, just like in anything else, i know, myself, im impressed by what i have seen of sylvia browne



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Nah, not real. I agree with the monkey thing. I think it goes something like "100 monkey given enough time will write shakespeare" or a close equiv...lol.

And there are definitely those that can just read you body language about the answer you expect, then word it ambiguously enough to be interpreted how you want to verify the claim.



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You pays your money and takes your chance.



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I do believe there are some genuine one's out there, although I've still yet to come across one.



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19:38:09 Oct 05 2007
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very interesting debate on if they are real or fake thanx for all your insight into this very good points put.



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19:40:46 Oct 05 2007
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i feel that most go 2 psychic's with there soul's open for answers they really already know. they just want 2 hear it from someone that they think know's the answers. not that all are fake but most are there 2 collect your $100.



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many to me have a gift of foresight, yet others are just like the guys on the corner doing the shell game, trickster so to say. so it is split for me some may have the essence of the gift and are never know. so I say half and half, but more fruads than real ones



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20:34:16 Oct 05 2007
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like anything you get fakes.
i happen to know very well that thery are real.
the monkey argument is silly. the subject has nothing to do with monkeys never will so liking them to monkeys is silly.
all you have done is move the goal post to make your weak point sound ok'ish.



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i will agree with several above.... i mean there are some out there who are rip offs and there are some out there who are good rip offs lol i say theres a couple out there who are real



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I believe there are some people who are just very talented at reading others, and telling them what they want to hear.

I also believe, however, that psychics do exist with different talents and abilities. They're not all cut from the same cloth.



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20:41:45 Oct 05 2007
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there was a TV show a while ago called "Shirley Ghostman" about a stage psychic. it was actually a spoof show, and shirley was played by the comedian mark wooton, but the audience was real, and they were not told it was a spoof. most of them were taken in and impressed by what they thought was a genuine psychic. it just goes to show how easy it is to be a fake psychic.



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well thanks to ms chleo, i no longer belive in psychics. well i never really did. i do belive in extra sensory powers, but have a hard time with psychics.



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i used to have a friend who was a professional psychic. i was never sure if he was genuine or not, because he is very intelligent and has a wicked sense of humour. however, one night he invited me and a couple more friends round to watch a video (it was highlander - a fairly new film back then). i felt very cold and uncomfortable there, and though i couldnt quite put my finger on it, something seemed quite definitely wrong, and i was eager to leave as soon as the film was finished. just before we did leave though, he insisted on showing us an armband with a swastika on it, which he proudly proclaimed to be a genuine nazi armband from WW2. when i spoke to my other friends the next day, they said they felt exactly the same - the whole experience just freaked them out. i feel sure he had opened himself up to something malign.



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OMG - i hope he isn't reading this! i mean, a psychic with a nazi armband who once showed three friends a bootleg copy of highlander - kinda specific that. i wasn't talking about you pat - it was someone else entirely.



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people used to believe a real psychics word...untill so idiot thought 'I know a way to make some good money'
so my opinion is this...
'the more they charge the more you should believe every word they say is fake'



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21:25:08 Oct 05 2007
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what does everyone think about john edward? i still unsure if he is the real deal or not



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I think his fake. the things he says can be said about anyone and still be right. and its a show that can a) easily get infomation from people to help one loved one move on from death
b) edited out all the wrong things that he said.
I could be wrong but i dont like people claming to be psychic on tv.



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21:31:49 Oct 05 2007
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very good point made and i agree i dont like the fake ones on tv either



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anyone see the earlyer versons of an english show called most hauted...
the guy that did it first was fired because he used to go to the toilet and phone up his wife who was on the internet at home telling him everything that happened in that place. they even had to cut out a show because he got all the infomation wrong because his wife couldnt find infomation. yeah that gives psychics a bad name.



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Like all things i life, ther'e are real and there are fake. the one's on t.v vi find are mostly fakes, such as Derek Acorah, bloody hell, he took that blonde from Most Haunted for a ride. But i believe there are geniune 'psychic's' out there, u just gotta be lucky enough to find them.



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i can read the past of objects if its a major happening ,i could remote view and see ghosts and feel an event coming up to three days before it does.



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I am considered one - yes they are real



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I thought about the armband post. It was the item giving off the energy being picked up. I had a similar experience when I got to put a hat that once belonged to Billy the Kid on my head. It was eerie, but had nothing to do with anyone being psychic or not. The hat carried it's own vibe which I picked up on.



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21:55:58 Oct 05 2007
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ok that was very strange lol



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psychics in my opion are real but i'm always unshure of the once on T.V. and at fairs who would ask for money for there services

on another thought wouldn't knowing what life has in store for you take all the fun out of it



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Psychics...there are people out there with this gift but I have to say few and far inbetween



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very good point made thor sometimes you dont want to know but you do.



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I believe that they are real even though there are probably some who fake it. Unfortunetly there is no truth now a days



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well i feel Slyvia Brown is the real deal and I am sure there are alot of real ones out there. Yet we as asociety are still leary of things we do not understand or even believe in

So I say if you go to one you are taking a chance of them getting it right.



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I have been to one that has thus far been correct. He also did readings for two of my friends. We'll see if all he said holds true I suppose.



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I believe that there are real psychics and I also believe some are fake. The ones with real psychic readings have a wonderful gift to hold and treasure. I think the fakes are just asking for money the wrong way. But then again, agreeing with killmesoftly86, there is no truth now a days and sorry if I’m wrong if i misinterpreting your statement killmesoftly86, that I think people just want to believe in what they want to hear.



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alot are really good at it..but others will tell you things that anyone can relate to. I try to go to the ones that will tell me something that no one else would know



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I believe that they are real...the only catch is that there are some out there that pretend to be pshchics but really they are not...so, you just have to know who to trust..



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Cops have used them to help solve cases that they them couldn't solve.



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I think the ones who help the police are real, not so much the ones who charge money.



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What's wrong with charging money? The ones who help the police charge money too. Just because they're psychics, doesn't mean they don't have to earn a living just like anyone else.



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i feel that the ones on tv like edwards and browne are both fake if you are one you dont broadcast it to the world it would tire you out to deal with all the strange people that come out of the woodwork to ask dumb questions



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I also believe that the gift can run in the blood line - my sister is a very strong pyschic as well



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I think it's far more rare than 50/50. But if you look at the profiles on VR- the majority are 'psychic'. I don't buy it. Having good intuition doesn't mean you are psychic, we all have intuition.



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nope there not



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The ones advertised? No fucking way. If what they say is realistic they take it from clues that people give away and what's typical.
There are real psychics, but they don't go advertising themselves, ESPECIALLY powerful clairvoyants. They hardly leave the house, if they don't have control.



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Their are real psychics. I have ability ( only through tarot readings, but what comes out always is so~and not vaguely or just in general either- it's right on the money). I have met two strong psychics that didn't even need the cards. They both bore the mark. Have you ever heard of the red rimmed eyes of the double sighted? Well it's true. Both of them had eyes rimmed in pink and were flawless. They SAW.



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some of them are, some are fakes



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Yes I believe that there are psychics. Their purpose is to deliever messages that our loved ones wants to tell us. As well as they are here to help us.



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I would say yes they are real. 90% of the brain is unknown, so I would say there is definite possibility of psychic ability within everyone, there are just a few so far that are exploring this.

It's like there are hidden programs written into the computer that is our brain, left their by Mother Nature (or whatever you believe) for us when we need it.



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In my honest opinion.. I would have to say most are fake and do their so called readings by watching body lanugage and ur responces to key words they use.

Most readings are very vague and could be taken in numerous ways and could be relevant for more than one person



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i agree with most on this thread that there is alot of fakes out there and them are the ones that uses thier abilities for profit. i feel that a person with these real abities dont like it to be known. at least not to the general public. in my opinion.



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I believe in phychics, but there are more fakes out there than there is the real deals.



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Yeh like many have said, they are real ones out there. That have been born with the gift and been able to use it for peoples adatages to help out.
But some are real theifs.
It's hard to know which are the real ones and who are the fake. Spose you just have to research or find out the hard way.. xx

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hurtsoulless i love the way you put that. but i believe there may be a select few that are the real deal my uncles Ex GF seemed to be she told my mom exactly how many kids she would have what there names would be and the exact day and time they would be born so i believe it somewhat any way



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There are real psychics and people who claim to be psychic to get their hands on your money. Like remember Ms. Cleo. I know in Florida I believe it was the Psychic Friends Network who she represented. The actually ended up getting sued by the State of Florida and another state. They settled out of court. There are so many people that claim psychic ability. So if you are looking for a psychic, make sure you research the person well. Like everything else, there is someone out there trying to make money dishonestly.



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i can read tarot cards - i mean really read them - not just bullshit cold reading gimmicks. i don't and can't do it professionally though. for one thing i feel it would be wrong to do it for money - i dont know why, just doesnt feel right. secondly, i can't do more than five readings in one go. after three or four i feel physically exhausted and weak. after the fifth, the readings just dont make any sense to me.

using genuine psychic abilities is very draining - anyone who can do it for hours at a time, several times over is faking it.



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I believe that some people are more in tuned with their psychic abilities than others. I have a hard time believing that anyone could actually predict or see the future. I do think that some people are just a little more emotionally in touch with the energy around them. These powers would probably just make a person more empathetic than anything.



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Some are indeed real but the one's who come on T.V claiming to be one are just as original as horse feathers.....Some are born with the gift.....No one can learn it...Thats my opinion...



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I believe some are some aren't....the one my oma goes to is the real deal.....she is always right with what is going to happen.....everything she says is correct she has not once been wrong...and my oma has been going to her for quite a while now



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Yes I believe there are some who are the real deal I have known some . But there are some out there who are fake and don't know as much and get you to feed them info . When you do that then they make you think that its all them . I say if yoy really want to know don't say anything and let them do the talking and jest listen and maybe a yes or no answer once in a while . thats how you will know for sure .



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It's not real. No one has psychic powers.



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Psychics and their powers are real..but never to be publicized like is being done. The ones you see on t.v. are a bunch of bull.



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I believe some are real, but that their are more fakes than anything just so they can take advantage of the people that will believe anything.



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dakoda09
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i think every one has the ability inside them most people just cant access it



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hmm I believe in psychic phenomena but that doesnt mean all so-called psychics are legit



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Although I am very sketptical on the whole psychic belief, I will not discredit it. There is proof, if you so choose to call it that, of individuals solving crimes using only there ability to see into the past. I have yet been able to debunk these psychics,, but if and/or when I do,, I shall let the whole world know!



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Here is a source on cold reading that some might find interesting. I'm not saying that all "psychics" use this, but I dare say a large chunk do.

http://skepdic.com/coldread.html



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NiteCreature

I've never been dubunked lol

However I thought I would add that a friend of mine who seems for the time being to have left her common sense somewhere, has just been asked to pay £100.00 for a reading.

Now.....with someone even considering paying that amount of money, is it any wonder there are sharks out there ?



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some are real and some are not the ones that are not are fakes and just looking to steal peoples money.I myself have some of the gifts but dont use them to steal ppls money



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Cold reading is common with such tv personalities as John Edwards and Sylvia Browne. What most people dont see it that before the camera even rolls the audience is asked a series of questions. Meanwhile, the "psychic" is in the back taking notes. So, its not exactly a mystery as to how information "just comes to them".



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((Like always I tend to ramble and fumble what I am trying to say so bare with me. Those who don't like reading long posts, run! hehe :) ))

I agree with many who have already posted that there are indeed sensitive attuned to psychic resonance’s of the past, future, or of objects and such.

I also agree with those who have said there are many who are simply "conning" whomever they are getting material goods from in exchange.

To echo one post above, if one has the sensitivity of the mind to be open to those realms, *shakes head* I cannot agree enough that if they had any self worth, they would not exploit it if they could in any way actively control it.

And that is the key. Active. Control.

Forgive me while I try and fuddle how to explain my view. I am of the belief that time is a human concept and what we know to be the past, present, future are likened to planes of existence that can and do occupy the same location as our perception of our physical selves. Also, that in the same way that some are sensitive to emotions, resonance’s of energies, energy manipulation ect that one can be sensitive to the ebbs and flows of "time" and can indeed on accident breach these "time" planes and gain insight on those levels of existence; however, due to the "nature of time" as we perceive it to be any image, feeling, or sound, must be translated, if you will, by our physical self’s means and abilities of associating our perception of a larger concept being shown into something explainable, understandable and comprehensible as an event/object/place etc familiar and recognizable to that individual. Following this vein, would give a hypothesis why one could indeed have the sensitivity to these "time" planes but the outcome, the telling of it etc is not 100%reliable.

For lack of better words and daring to be cliché: "It got lost in translation" of perception and the ability to perceive our world in its entirety.

Our physical body is I dare to say it, slower to evolve than many other creatures on this planet. It has taken many! generations to give our fingers the range of motion from our forefathers and they from their own for instance; yet, it is our brains that have evolved, in size, density, capacity at a phenomenal rate in relation to the rest of our body and our animal counterparts. Believing the above, it is not hard for me to ratify that within our species to develop extra sensory abilities to gain a better understanding/grasp of our world.

Thus saying the above. A person who was exceptionally gifted in this type of sensitivity would be plagued with things beyond their current level of full comprehension to relate; the ability itself would be largely unable to be controlled (erratic occurrences the norm rather than the exception) and would carry with it a gift of burden.
(For if you had the funny feeling that something bad was going to happen to a friend or a loved one but also the feeling that if it didn’t something worse would, what would you do? While conversely same situation, but no second feeling of something worse, would you give them warning at the expense of possibly losing them as a friend, or people wishing to lock you up?) If one was indeed gifted psychically in the realms of “time” I indeed believe it would be a gift of burden and would be held close to oneself rather than paraded around for entertainment, amusement or monetary material gain.


Again, I have babbled too much, fumbled too badly what I am trying to get across, so I’ll end it here. :)
Take care and be well all
Ara.



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wow this thread is still going kool thanx all for all the feedback luvs ya



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If you are referring to the 1900 psychics and people like Miss Cleo, then I will tell you they are fake. I believe some people can tell certain things that may happen or get hunches. I just do not think they can always give every little detail.



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i really hate those 900 ones some have sent me stuff for a free reading lol



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Theshining1
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you mean the 900 # for the evil hotline



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LMAO



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Callia
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Thinks Some are actually born with the gift of having the ability to see things and some are just a hoax trying to make a quick buck.. Has seem some Reality TV shows and come on now... I agree before consulting a Psychic look into Who Your speaking to before putting Your faith into the information given to You because You might be buying a Load of Bullno matter how good it sounds or real



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good point callia



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BiancaElSanto
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i believe in sensitives, not psychics.



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ryet666
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What you mean thos 900 numbers are not real?!?! lol

Well it depends on whether or not you yourself actually believe in them. I have been to a couple one was accurate the other not very...



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Really, it's a fifty-fifty shot. Some use the actual gift I believe we all have, and some just use lucky guesses and psychology to pretend. If that makes any sense at all lol....



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Has anyone seen that show on court TV. I belive it's called "Psychic Detectives". They appear to be real on that show. Thats the closest I have come to seeing anything that resembles a true psychic.
What do you think about he psychics on that show?
I know it's TV but it's supposed to be an informative channel



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StarDust30
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There are some real ones and fake ones you just have to know which ones are real . I personally know a couple who are the real thing .



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I dont believe in them personally in truth I think that they are never but a scam used to try to look for suckers trying to give them money in excahnges for making false promises and false reasons which in turn is nothing but a big fat lie!



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I think that maybe one out of onehundred might be real but the others, I think are just very good at guessing.



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I am an Empath. So yeah I believe that some are real.



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I also am an empath and definately believe in psychics. There are some that are fakes, but there are real ones out there.



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Psychic ability does exist. However, some charlatens do claim abilities for profit rather than proper motives.



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Real Psychics do exist but you don't run across them very often. It is more a scam to make money by people giving vague details that could pertain to just about anyone.



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i have met a psychic once and she was really good she told me everything that i was and wasnt gonna do and it came as she said... theres alot of ripppp offs and some are very good theres also very real ones but those i havent came across yet



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I believe that some psychics are the real deal but they are others out there that are not and just say things that you hope to hear.



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well I feel there are alot of true ones out there we just have to be care as to who you trust to be real or not.



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