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The legend of Atlantis has to be one of the oldest and most spellbinding of all the world's mysteries. It has puzzled both skeptics and believers alike. Where exactly was Atlantis and where is it now? What caused its destruction? Exactly how advanced were the Atlanteans? I hope someday everyone will know the answers to those questions.

Plato, a Greek philosopher, gave us the first known account of Atlantis. Plato was said to have lived from about 428 to 348 B.C. He was a student of Socrates. After studying with Socrates, Plato opened up his own philosophy school. There he began to write his philosophies in a play-type form. These dialogues always featured Socrates as the main character. In the dialogues Timaeus and Critias, he wrote about an amazing place called Atlantis. In Critias, Plato wrote of Atlantis' architecture, engineering, and ceremonies in great detail. Many people, even Plato's own students, thought this place
was Plato's own creation, but he argued that Atlantis was real, and filled with more splendors than anyone could imagine.

All races share the story of a great flood that destroyed an entire civilization. The name Atlantis appears in various forms throughout the world. The Canary Islands have a legend involving Atalaya. The Basques of Northern Spain have Atlaintica. The Vikings told the tale of Atli. Northern Africa called it Attala. The Aztecs have Aztlán, and the North American Indians called theirs Azatlán.

Plato said Atlantis was a large island in the Atlantic Ocean, somewhere west of the Pillars of Hercules (the Rock of Gibraltar). This description has lead to many people believing that Atlantis could have been the Aegean Island of Thera (Santorini) which suddenly blew up. Atlantis was also identified as part of an ancient series of land bridges that stretched across the Atlantic and even out into the Pacific as far as New Zealand. Others say that the Canary Islands are the tops of Atlantis' tallest mountains. Some say that the Bermuda Triangle is the result of Atlantis sinking. The discovery of
blue eyes and blondness among some of Africa's Berbers soon led some people
to place Atlantis in the Atlas Mountians of modern Morocco and Tunisia. Still others claim that Atlantis was not even on this planet.

According to the continental drift theory, all the continents fit together, like a jigsaw puzzle. If you look at a map, you will see that the continents really do fit together- with the exception of the USA in North America and Western Europe. Could Atlantis be the missing piece?

According to Plato, one of the best splendors of Atlantis was the palace compound located in the heart of its capital. It was ringed by three canals. Plato remarked, "As each king received it [the palace] from his predecessor, he added to its adornment and did all he could to surpass the king before him, until finally they made of it an abode amazing to behold for the magnitude and beauty of its workmanship. The visitors passed through a wall of brass, a wall of tin, and a wall of copper. White and black and red stone quarried from the native rock." He also wrote that the wealth they possessed
was so immense that the like had never been seen before in any royal house, nor will ever easily be seen again. This, of course, lead to Atlantis' destruction.

He stated that the Atlanteans appeared to be superlatively fair and blessed, yet they were filled with lawless ambition and power. The Atlanteans started valuing material wealth above goodness-that's where they went wrong. Plato said, "The portion of divinity within them was now becoming faint and weak through being oftentimes blended with a large measure of mortality." The Atlanteans were unable to bear the burden of their possessions. So, "There occurred portentous earthquakes and floods, and one grievous day and night befell them, when...the island of Atlantis...was swallowed up by the sea and vanished." Plato doubted that any sign of the lost land would ever be found. "The ocean at that spot, has now become impassable and unsearchable." This
contributes to the Bermuda Triangle theory above.

Even though it seems that no one could survive such a tragedy, it is believed that many Atlanteans escaped. One example of this is Edgar Cayce. In April of 1939, he fell into a trance and spoke about Atlantis. "In Atlantis, when there was the breaking up of the land came to what was called the Mayan Land or the what is now Yucatan-entity was the first to cross the water in the plane or air machine of that period." In support of the escape, Atlantis has been hailed for spawning civilizations such as Hellenic Greece, the Mayas & Incas of the New World, and ancient Egypt.

Atlantis has had an impact on every culture. In 1675, Olof Rudbeck, a Swedish scholar, used Homeric sailing directions to Ogygia and located Atlantis in Sweden. English poet William Blake, believed that the Atlantean King, Albion lead the last of his subjects to Britain, where they became Druids. Charles-Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg, a French scholar, translated a Mayan manuscript in 1864, that described the story of an ancient land that had sunk into the ocean after a great catastrophe. In 1882, Philadelphian politician, and avid reader, Ignatius Loyola Donnelly published his book Atlantis: The Antedefuvian World. The world's reception of his writings was so great,
Donnelly was elected to membership in the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

here is a link :)

http://theshadowlands.net/atlantis/index.html#Atlantis,%20The%20Lost

and my question is this: Is the legend of atlantis real, or is it something that the ancient greeks had made up to keep future generations looking for a mythical land and peoples?




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I personally beleive Atlantis was a real city that sunk to the bottom of the ocean.

Although it has never been proven this island exists.. It does remain one of the great mysteries



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If it was real, it was probably the island of Thera.



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I do believe in Atlantis. There may be little to no scientific proof of such a place but I believe nonetheless. Faith in the unknown is what keeps us strong.



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i beleive in the theory of atlantis, but that to me is irrelevant seeing there is no actual proof of this land and its peoples. there are wall paintings that would describe the people but so far nothing has turned up. that is why im confused at to if it is actually something or ancient greek lore :)



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Atlantis represents the stagnation of society. Where they do not need to develop, when they do not need to grow. The only thing left is for them to fall. Like babylon. Rome, things so great, that their journey has all but to end.



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thi site lists the top 10 possibel locations of atlantis

http://www.atlantisrising.com/issue9/ar9topten.html

very interesting thread ..



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Atlantis was real, but will never be found. This as told to me by spirits who had seen it destroyed. Something similar may be found, but not THE Atlantis.



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i think atlantis was real and sank. who knows maybe a valcano covered it. or not



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i may check the internet for info on that.. it would be a good read..



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I think its possible that it existed. I'm not as willing to accept all the grandeur that goes along with it though.



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I beleive that it was a real place that was sunk to the bottom of the ocean.



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it did exist, it got dtroyed by its won mathematicians, as they succed in the nuclear power and ended up destroying themselves sincking into the ocean



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Interesting indeed.....Would be nice if some jolly scientist or skeptic proved it...



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there is so many legends in different cultures that it cant not be reall.and ruins have been found in the bahamas which rose when edgar cayrce said they would.by now most of the altanits is just sea pebbles.the canary islanders has three gold scrolls which quickly got grabbed and whisked away to some scret library.



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I do believe in atlantis and that the city sunk to the ocean maybe one day we will find whats left of it



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i believe it was real just not sure about the stories that go with it.



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I alwqays thought of it as an interpretatiuon of the destruction of Knossos by the eruption of Santorini



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I thought that eruption was a few thousand years later than the supposed disappeance of Atlantis??



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I believe that it is strongly possible that the island could have existed. I watched this program on TV about scientists trying to find the lost island. They believe that something like a catastrophic volcano eruption (similar in force to Vesuvius that destroyed Pompeii) could have caused a massive tsunami that sank the island.

I don't see any reason why Atlantis couldn't exist.



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Even as a child, the mystery surrounding the Lost City of atlantis has fascinated me. Throughout the years I have done research on this matter, and have found several geographical locations where Atlantis could have been. The most likely place is in the Aegean sea. Any ideas or relevant theories are appreciated.



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I belive atlantis existed it is kinda much writed



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I think people like the romanticism of the story. Pretty much with all the Greek legends



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Of course, an advanced civilasation just 'disappeared' without trace:) who can resist



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I believe that Atlantis was a real city. I'm not sure about the actual legend though. I think it might hold some truth, but most of it is grossly exaggerated.



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the more research i do on this topic, the more i beleive that there was an actual atlantis, but the puzzling thing is, where did it sink and where the location is. there are so many areas that atlantis is beleived to be that it still has the scholars baffled as to find the right location.



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It is not that miraculous an event - look at the tsunami of a few years ago or Katrina. In fact I'm sure several civilisations were destroyed in this fashioon and the legend of Atlantis may be several such tales distilled through the oral tradition



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i would love to find out whether or not if Atlantis ever really was around



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that is very true there craig. alot of civilizations were crushed by tsunamis and those here of recent as well.



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hmm atlantis isnt that in georgia usa hehe

nah I think that there was some truth to atlantis although a city as great as it was boasted as maybe not

it was said to have 3 rings if we look geographically there is a area north east of the usa called the ring of fire which in description
of how atlantis looked I would think scientifically this area would be prime to target especially since there is a lot of volcanic activity and it is hard to do any form of studies there due to the elements. also I forget where but I believe it was plato who stated he looked out from his tower only to see this great city sinking into a watery fire,

if atlantis existed the ring of fire especially if we use reverse geo studies on making pangea(the super continent) whole. again as to before the continents drifted apart where would this ring of fire be posted at roughly where plato's window would be at least in my theory.



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What if Atlantis was a Civilization consisting of a higher race,maybe an alien race?I saw a pro gramme on National Geographic in which archaeologists speculated that Atlantis was an Alien or Time Traveling civilization...and that they might have helped with the construction of the Great Pyramids of Egypt....Even Mayans have written about the Lost City Of Atlantis...Inscriptions actually on their temples.....I know its far fetched but still humor me.....It can be possible.One doesn't have to view aliens as weird creatures with big heads and so forth.What if Atlantis consisted of a race of time travelers?

Yes i expect a lot of criticism and laughter coming my way.......And i'm ready for it.....



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honestly. So many myths of atlanteans were thought to be of a future or another planet which were stranded with no means to leave back to their world and no way to actually send a message to get help. Or a more popular one of the atlanteans being pioneers simply to try and find a new home from an exhausted resourced planet.
I have heard the rumour mill that they helped the egyptians and mayan and aztecs with their temples, however all of these just lead into more over thought things.

if we think more simplistic
look at the wright brothers and their construction of an airplane. or the native americans in my opinion having the first boat like vehicle. made out of brush and bramble.

through out history if we look at what all we have made. in the years lets say just the usa has been around. lets dive deeper into history with all we have acomplished who is to say that atlanteans werent just able to come up with simple things for which other's thought were advanced until they were able to copy such creations. at which the atlanteans were then in process to build bigger better constructed devices to use for survival ?



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True true what you said is completely true...But it still can be possible.No one can actually dis-Credit any theory because no one has proof to favor their view,only perceptions....But if you want to go way back ..Even in Hindu Mythology the Gods had vehicles which very much resembled modern aircrafts...Even the use of highly advanced weaponry is mentioned......And that too the whole Epic was written in the vedic period which started from the 2nd and 1st millenia BCE continuing upto 6 th century BCE....Pretty old...



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and then we have an era which most forget one of the premise

the dark ages( the loss of technology and creations)
I dont dis credit any theory only that when the dark ages came we lost a lot of technology that was around before this era.
I highly doubt we have had only one dark ages.

So much in the history books states we have had several dark ages and loss of technology when ever a civilization dies or disappears we lose their ability to make something.

egypt is a prime example the pyramids, sphinx.
the hanging gardens of alexanderia(or is it alexander)

through age rust and corrosion its hard to say that back in the time era that atlantis was possibly from that they had not come up with what we already had.
as mentioned above the high radiation found in india proves that something nuclear-like was around way before WW2.
so a simplistic out look on it all. so many look to heavily and over look easily constructed idea's
I wouldnt doubt a form of dark ages occured.

for me the ice age and death of dinosaurs is a dark age era
as is the advancement or death of Neanderthals.So why not for atlantis itself, falling prey to a history repeater



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Exactly my thought.......After such mighty civilizations came a period of dormancy.....Suddenly just like that everything became normal.....That could have been an after effect of the downfall of great civilizations.....A time for people to rebuild everything.....You can never know....But i am certain for one thing..Many Great wars had taken place way back and the technology and strategy used in such wars precedes the ones we use today......



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and majority of that technology we have never been able to rebuild to our design or vices.

so the ring of fire could be part of atlantis. all the technology they had may not have been as glamorous as plato described. I mean he was well known for what after all lol
however one thing does bring up this fact of atlantis is this. Too many civilizations speak of this continent/city/civilization, none pin points when exactly where this civilization was. they all give about the same description of the 3 rings that signified the island. and pangea as stated above if we put the world back together, north america doesnt match up with the area it would attach to meaning that there is a lot of pieces of the world missing whether sunken or just floated to somewhere new, perhaps the ring of fire hawaii and the possibility that austrailia could all be parts of atlantis(maybe not so much austrailia lol) but I think that if we could look around the ring of fire up in the nothern eastern area of the usa maybe we could find more maybe a chared body stuck in cooled magma as with pompei



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Heh hee.....Maybe.....You know you did shed a lot of light on the subject.....Hmmmm..Interesting?

*Goes about scratching his head and pondering*



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Well why would the ancient greeks make up a mythical city for generations to search for. That doesn't make sense to me.

It was the same with the story of the fall of Troy, for decades it was refuted to be just a story nothing more until the remains of an ancient city located in roughly the area the fables said the city was, was found and dated back to those times.

So why can't atlantas be at the bottom of the ocean somewhere waiting for us to discover and learn about her?



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I myself believe it was real but why it sank is what I want to know.

Where and for what reason? Maybe it is covered over by somthing like said above a volcano or maybe some iceburg, who knows but it would be great to know why and where it is.



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I have heard of it.



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Atlantis is somewhere in the Pegasus galaxy according to Stargate...sorry couldn't resist that lol



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There are many different beliefs as to the actual location of Atlantis. A large percentage believe, as did Plato, that it is a sunken island under the Atlantic Ocean. Others believe it is located near the Greek islands of Crete or Thera (Santorini). A severe earthquake on 9th July 1956 disturbed the lower strata in a quarry on Thera and the ruins of what appeared to be an ancient civilization were found. Human bones, teeth and charred wood, together with pottery and other artistic relics were Carbon-14 dated by Professor Galanopoulous. The results pointed to this being the remains of Atlantis.

The Azores, Madeira and the Canary Islands, along with smaller Atlantic islands, have also been suggested. The Azores, in common with Thera (perhaps even more so), have the look of sunken islands about them, with great black mountain peaks that rise directly from the ocean.

The Caribbean has also been suggested. In the 1920's, an American psychic Edgar Cayce predicted that Atlantis would rise again in 1968 from the ocean floor near Bimini in the Bahamas. In fact, in 1968 an airline pilot sighted an emergent temple of great antiquity only a few miles away from the predicted site. Since then there have been many more sightings and scuba divers have discovered flights of steps cut into the steep sides of the continental shelf in the same area. Great circular interrupted patterns of monolithic stones have been photographed on the ocean bottom, suggesting a sort of American "Stonehenge". Underwater pyramids, vertical walls and even a great arch have also been observed by scuba divers. Dr. Manson Valentine first discovered and explored the "Bimini Road" a sunken wall, foundation or dock, lying at a depth of about six fathoms, east of North Bimini.

It is very interesting that these ruins lie within the area known as "The Bermuda Triangle", the area between Bermuda, Eastern Florida and east of Puerto Rico. This is where many aircraft, large ships and small boats have been known to disappear without trace. Reported aspects of their disappearances involve spinning compasses, instrument malfunction, radio and radar blackout and electronic drain.

One suggested explanation is that the Atlanteans possessed laser power through gigantic crystals, as was reported by Edgar Cayce through his psychic readings, several decades before lasers became an accepted part of modern technology.

However more recently South America has become the most favoured location. In Peru, enormous stone walls on mountain-tops were a mystery to the conquering Incas and Spaniards. An incredible old city, Tiahuanaco in Bolivia, was apparently built so long ago that prehistoric animals were depicted on the local pottery. Enormous buildings, built at an elevation of 13,500 feet, with walls ten feet thick and foundation stones of 200 tons, were constructed with such exactness and knowledge of physics and astronomy that many investigators are convinced that the builders could not have been of this earth.

Geological discoveries around Tiahuanaco include salt lines in the mountains, former cornfields under the frozen snow-line of the surrounding peaks, and sea shells along the shores of lake Titicaca which indicated that the city was possibly an ocean port, forced up to its present altitude some 15,000 years ago, during volcanic activity which accompanied the melting of glaciers.

In 1965, Dr. Robert Menzies took photos from the research ship, "Anton Bruun", off the coast of Peru. Sonar recordings taken in this area indicated unusual shapes along the floor of the ocean, which otherwise seem to be a mud bottom. Photos taken at a depth of 6,000 feet show what were apparently massive upright pillars and walls, some of which seemed to have writing on them. The camera also took pictures of rocks laying scattered on their side, some in heaps as if they had toppled over, perhaps at the time that this mysterious city fell more than a mile under the sea.

With the advancement of technology, which at present is probing into outer galaxies, the time may come when they are able to turn their attention below the surface of the ocean, and discover the truth about Atlantis.

http://www.mystic-mouse.co.uk/Wisdom_Texts/Atlantis.htm



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i do beleve it to be a myth but i would like to think it is real it is a very interesting subject.



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the area mentioned above was also thought to be the true location to eden in another documentary I remember watching.

its very possible that maybe atlantis didnt truly sink but it was what the minds of these older civilizations saw it as. just like pompei basically sinking into the magma
perhaps atlantis befell the same fate and instead of sinking simply blew apart and seperated as if a major earthquake which. plato I believe mentioned a great rumbling of the ocean, which could signify a earthquake which if powerful enough would break an island apart.
so perhaps atlantis is mixed with a lil of every where after said earthquake there is also proof that earth quakes were massive back in that era due to the plates being highly unstable.while the earth molded itself to what it is today



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I think it is nothing but an old wise tale that was passed around between families for many years and just written down in places for other people to believe them.



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Great posts RazaelRiezen!



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If Atlantis was a real city, I think today's civilization should learn from past mistakes and not put wealth before all else.



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very well stated silence



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i have alwaysed believed that this land excists and hope to be proven right one day



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I totally believe it exist, i just cant wait till its found and all the things we might discover.



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could it be possible that Plato created this entire thing due to Schizophrenia, he could have seperated reality from imagination (his Imagination!) does anyone else think that that had anything to do with it.



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Atlantis was somewhere beyond the Pillars of gibraltar...It existed at one point yes...



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i think it is there as sais above just gotton covered



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I agree that It is more possible that Atlantis exsisted tnan not. After "old wives tales" were not written down on walls in hyrogliphics or in the Myan language. These civilizations had one thing in common... they had all seen or met someone who KNEW where Atlanis really was. They all give clues..

If someone were to gather all the clues and put them in the right order they may find Exactly where Atlanis is.



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Its very possible that Plato made it up due to schizo however that doesn't explain how Mayans and other civilizations who Plato had no way to communicate with could possibly have created the exact same city. same description.

If just Plato then Id say it was just a story Plato created that people felt was not a story but too many people from then talk of Atlantis as if they had seen its beginning middle and end.



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i still find it very interesting to no my self..



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There are many unknown things in the universe alantis is one of them eventually we will find evidince if it is real My opinion is that it did sank to the bottom of the ocean and we will eventually discover it the reason being there is so much ocean that we have not even uncovered an eighth it hides under its surface.



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so true there is so much unseen on the ocean's floor hence why there are creatures deep in the ocean which we thought were not true. and yet we have found squids the size of boats deep into the ocean so somewhere there could be a city so sunk and deep we are yet able to reach it



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you know, this thought crossed my mind as i was reading these posts. i almost wonder if atlantis was some of the ancient peoples idea of heaven. i mean really, think about it. you have totally different cultures that in no way ever met that sat on total opposite sides of the world that have the same idea of atlantis and its peoples, just different ways of getting there. i know the ancient mayans, when they did thier hyrogliphics that they were made by the religous hiearchy and then passed to the ones that actually did the paintings. im not saying this is what this place is, but it could be a possibility. in my opinion.



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I believe in atlantis, and I believe it sank. But I dont really study about it and barely have any knowledge on it, but I thought I could put my 2 cents in. :)



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RazaelRiezen is right i think that only 10% of the oceans floor has been explored, so that means that their is still 90% to go and no one could imagine what explorers are going to find in the comming years...



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thats actually an interesting twist to the city of atlantis gruesome

I must say that makes me think a little on that idea also.However the one variable this causes is if that is the case it means that either the greeks or mayans influenced the other in some way meaning they would have known each other.before cortez met them.Which was the first recording of the mayans I believe



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I am not to sure about the mythical city states location, but it seems if it surfaces there may be an appocalypse involved...



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This was a very informative thread and I do believe Atlantis existed and someday it will be proven.



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go Atlantis the home of our fore fathers
yes i do believe Atlantis is real i even seen in a couple of my dreams



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i have enjoyed many shows about this i believe that the city is buried and claimed by the ocean



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Well I do believe it was/is real and that it is still there in the ocean, I mean we have alot of things in history as well as Myth that can actually be true. soo anything is a possiblity in my eyes.


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Well to tell you the truth I have been reading about that and they have some interesting stories on it but if you find some more out about it let me know ok.



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i dont thinkit will ever be found.. if it does exist im sure that is well buried below the ocean floor..



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Excatly Minx, or possibly beneath the radoactive layers in India if they can ever dig there!!

P.S Thanks Billy for the edit:))



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I believe in all honesty that it could truely have been. Just because you cant see it or it has never been seen does not mean its not or never was there.



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I have an open mind and I believe that Atlantis did exist. Because of all the greed and lust and insatitiable hunger for power the Atlanteans where corrupted. Zeus, the mighty god of the sky summoned the other gods to exact a appropriate punishment for this ungratful nation. The punishment was so vast and violent that Atlantis was swallowed whole by the ocean where is lies in it's watery tomb. I think we could see Atlantis rise into existence again.



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I bleieve that is if happened there would edinece somewhere that it would say that this place was truly there but all that there is in that department is a legerd and a good one at that I will say. until there is solid evidence somewhere saying this was the final place of rest for this once great city I just wont beleive it to be true.



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If anything its a great story



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fantastic post



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You can not see the air, but you know it is there. You can not prove it does not exist because you can not prove that it does exist.



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I seen a movie on it but thats all I know



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Interesting thought GT.. somethign to think about for sure.



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i love that story but i really do believe it some people that i know though think that its silly that i think its real.



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i think Atlantis did exist, but mystery has helped build up fantastic stories about it as the story is retold. i think it was probably a great civilisation, but there is nothing to suggest that it was technologicaly advanced by or way of thinking. in hose days, a water screw was a miracle of engineering.



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Atlantis was a real place. i think because of all its advancements it caused itself to sink to the bottom of the ocean



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in actuality. the christian bible speaks of a great flood which covered the world at one time.

and people thought it was a myth something made up however scientists have found evidence of a over enduring flood which seemed to have hit area's which should not have had such high water levels.

so if the great flood happened why cant atlantis be real ?



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One of my favourite myths!!!
I have read the Plato`s book.I have read five more books about that subject. One of them (Aurel Dimboiu, "Pe urmele atlantilor"- - "On the Atlats Steps")very well documented.
There is no posibility that text was written by a schizo.Still could be an utopic society thet never existed and could be used by Plato to encourage his fellow citizens to build a better society(even better that the Golden Age Greek One!!)>He may be using this story to give e model of perfect society that existed and ofered hope and ambition that such a society could be reached.
This is possible.But we have no proof to sustain it.


I do not think that the very precise description of the structure of this society is matching with the Atlan land from the maya texts.But was an interesting idea.
there could be many... Atlantis... not just a single one ;)

There are interesting texts written about this by Caice and Madame Blavatsky.The last one inspired the band Ataraxia to create the fantastic album "Lost Atlantis" in 1999.



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I know there is no actual proof and all, but I still believe it existed. I'm not really sure why I do, I just do. Maybe I simply like the idea of Atlantis. Besides, just because they haven't found proof doesn't mean it was never there. We've been proven wrong before. *Shrugs*



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these are all great concepts, ideas, and facts about this place. i just wish that they would either find it or at least compile what evidence there is and track it down to its exact location. gather the archives from all these different cultures and then hopefully put minds at ease. but then again, maybe it is meant to be a mystery that will never be solved wholey. who knows :)



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Here is a good website about atlantis , with lots of f.a.q...

Atlantis Information



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The enlarged Greece peninsula that was on the above link's cover is said by some to be the first Eden! There was a land bridge that Adam and his crew crossed over on into the north of Africa. It was then that the story of Cain and Able started. This is not Atlantis. Too many researchers have Atlantis on the brain. Why is nobody looking for Lemuria or Mu?



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I believe in the City od Atlantis....but in the world there will always be someone who dosen't believe in it!



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i saw a documentary a few years ago that proposed Atlantis was an Aztec city in South america that was built on flood plains, and gradually sank



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karnstein i have seent his theory befor e and believe it is a very good possibility



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As said there are drawings and Pictures of accounts of the City and People and life of the City so wouldnt this be actual Historical Documentation of the City .. Just because we have not actually found the geographical location of it does not mean the City does not exist.. I believe Atlantis was Real and do to the change in Geography i think the City is in fact submerge totally under water and we may never actually find it, the depths of the Atlantic are deep and if im correct i dont think it is humanly possible for us to go to the bottum of it as of yet... So do we not believe in something despite the historical writings on it written down by so many countries and people of our past all the same or very close in similarity .. Again another case of what we dont see we choose not to believe ...Society is funny



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the trouble with documentation about atlantis is it's all second or third hand. the earliest know references to it were made by the greeks several hundred years after it disappeared. that makes all the stories and drawings merely speculation. all the same i think it did exist. the greeks did not speak of it as a mythical or mystical place like olympus or hades - they spoke of it as a real place.



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What's interesting is that in the 60's Atlantis was very much on the minds of individuals engaged in the re-tro culture of that period. The 60's era was indeed a renisance in cultural thinking about our past and the history we seem to have lost.


Atlantis Lyrics (Donovan)


Donovan - Atlantis Lyrics


The continent of Atlantis was an island
which lay before the great flood
in the area we now call the Atlantic Ocean.
So great an area of land, that from her western shores
those beautiful sailors journeyed
to the South and the North Americas with ease,
in their ships with painted sails.

To the East Africa was a neighbour, across a short strait of sea miles.
The great Egyptian age is but a remnant of The Atlantian culture.
The antediluvian kings colonised the world
All the Gods who play in the mythological dramas
In all legends from all lands were from fair Atlantis.
Knowing her fate, Atlantis sent out ships to all corners of the Earth.
On board were the Twelve:
The poet, the physician, the farmer, the scientist,
The magician and the other so-called Gods of our legends.
Though Gods they were -
And as the elders of our time choose to remain blind
Let us rejoice and let us sing and dance and ring in the new
Hail Atlantis!
Way down below the ocean where I wanna be she may be,
Way down below the ocean where I wanna be she may be,
Way down below the ocean where I wanna be she may be.
Way down below the ocean where I wanna be she may be,
Way down below the ocean where I wanna be she may be.
My antediluvian baby, oh yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah,
I wanna see you some day
My antediluvian baby, oh yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah,
My antediluvian baby,
My antediluvian baby, I love you, girl,
Girl, I wanna see you some day.
My antediluvian baby, oh yeah
I wanna see you some day, oh
My antediluvian baby.
My antediluvian baby, I wanna see you
My antediluvian baby, gotta tell me where she gone
I wanna see you some day
Wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up, oh yeah
Oh glub glub, down down, yeah

Scientists have discovered sunken areas below the Caribbean that extend for miles out. These areas encompass the Islands of Cuba, Haiti, Puerto Rico and the Bahamas, each island area having sunken remnants of similar structures: Pillars, finely paved stone avenues and streets and even the tops of pyramid structures, including the hollowed out area of where the capstone should have been. Amazingly the area of these pyramid tops exceed those of the Great Pyramid of Giza, making the burried structures much larger in size.
Oddly enough or amazingly enough was the discovery of a sunken city off the coast of Japan as well. Where "Lore" would have it that there existed a land called Lemuria at about roughly the same time, itself being in the Indian/Pacific Ocean area.


Food for thought



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what if we have found it???
me and a friend were throwing the idea of atlantis around at work and came up with this... aswell we found some documents that actually help this idea.

Every religion has a flood story, there is evidence of a greater society all over the world, and all land was once one, what if atlantis once went by another name... pangea??

my evidence... when you look at the meteor strikes of the past x-amount of millions of years, a vast majority look like 'targeted' spots, and if you align the pieces of land mass to the 'spot' thaught to be the origional location of pangea, the 'hits' align on the fault lines of our individaul land masses... corrilate this with the story of Atlamtis, not just the downfall, it is said the peoples seperated themselves into their respective magiks and beliefs, and then began to fight over control of a great weapon.
Cross that into the findings of an 'advanced' culture all over the world, and the combined belief of a 'flood' that covered the land, can support such an inconcieved thesis.
Over yeas of 'evolution' not monkey to man, but man to its surroundings realize the idea that the reason all our cultures and looks are different is the adaptation to our surroundings.
Imagion the idea that we are still fighting the same war we faught so long ago today, over who is right and wrong, and 'hating' hating others for their differences.



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23:00:45 Oct 15 2007
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I have no problem at all in believing that Atlantis existed and is now at the bottom of an ocean somewhere.

It really is no biggie. Here in the UK big chunks of land slip into the Atlantic often enough, in some places there are now cliffs where there used to be towns.

In the Boxing Day Tsunami complete islands and towns were washed away. In his day and age we have definite records and no-one will ever doubt that such and such place existed.



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GrandMasterC187
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23:19:48 Oct 15 2007
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It's not really a mystery at one point time all seven continents were connected and you don't here of no mention of that or that alaska once connected Russia to Canada and now it's a state. Volcanoes may have something to do with it's dissapearance or It simply was flooded by the ocean mystery solved. Evolution and time was it's demise.



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GrandMasterC187
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23:25:42 Oct 15 2007
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This sort of thing happens to hundred's maybe thousand's of discovered and undiscovered Islands all the time. This has been going on before man even existed as far back as the preshistoric ages.



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TwilightAngel231
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02:37:00 Oct 16 2007
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i believe that it exists



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VR System
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02:37:00 Oct 16 2007
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