Just curious about one thing since I have been lurking and re4ading members profiles on here they are alot of members who dont believe or just are really trying to make fun of vampires but thats ok who dont believe just ask some questions to the ones who claim to be like me.
It is true, but I am sure that ppl would be more open to reconsider such claims, if only something more substantial is to be given to them for a reconsideration of this so much claimed subject.
Ask questiones? I beleive the answers would be same, black on white, and what we need is something more authentic than that, in order to"beleive".
We need the flesh buddy, the flesh.
The ones making fun of people who are vampires will one day meet in person th e real vampire and probably will be araid of what they don't understand....
There are as many poeple who dont believe as there are people who "Think" or want to be a Vampire. I live in a town where everyone thinks they are, but they ar infact not.
It's amazing how many people are ignorant.
I think that someday the world wil come to find out what it is they do not understand. The things people in a group will fear, but when they are alone, will not fear.
those who wish not to believe is directed by todays social class. i would say for their lack of faith in vampyres or just not enough history in what is claimed. they must choose their path as many here have. the "norm' class of society fears what they do not know or what isn't acceptable by them.
I am not a Vampire, but I don't make fun of anyone who claims they are. I have since a child been fascinated with the mythical Vampire and since I joined VR have learned more about people living as Vampire's. I still don't understand it all. I read the "What is a Vampire on the main menu and it give's the explanation most people find. Which is not an explanation of whether or not they are real. I am open minded and don't follow the masses so whatever conclusion I come up with is based on what I learn and what I want to believe. I think for the most part people are going to believe whatever they want to believe but I don't see any reason to make fun of anyone who does believe they are. It's a big world and it's full of possibilities and wonder. There's good and bad and all the stuff inbetween..I say anything is possible.
I think it is wrong to joke about who is a vampire and to say they dont believe in them i am not one myself but i would never say such things because i firmly believe that they are real maybe not everyone on vr but their is some that are.I think people are just ignorete sometimes and need to reasearch more about the real vampires that are here in our society.
Yes true but what if they are the Real Vampires and are trying to disprove their existence as a true vampire would never come out in the open and reveal him/herself....Has anyone thought about that?
i don't see why they waste our time and there's if they dont believe.
Please be more specific.
What kind of vampires?
I love vampires too!
hello to all i am not a vamp though i beleieve they do excist and beleieve i had a run in with one i am not sure if one would come out and reveal themsleves on here but i learned from working for the us government the best place to hide something is right out in the open ie make a movie about write a book about such and such i do not beleieve i am one..
as for the world ... the world will always fear the different and unexplainable
In all fairness there have been certain claims made that many would say are only deserving of ridicule.
The hardest part about believing in mythical vampires is the myth. If we want to talk about psychic vampires, then sure - I'll buy.
I am not a vamp but i think there ppl on here just to learn,and i am sure there are ppl on here to make fun of a life style the know nothing about.
I can't understand anyone being on this site if they either don't believe or just want to poke fun...but then i'm not so childish as to join a site just to try and cause trouble.
Uh oh, the shroude of the soul speak once more, LMAO!!
Just as I had made a forum thread about vampires and you...You feel the need to reiterate the question into more of an obfuscated subject. Why does the world of the VR make "fun" of vamps.
My only answer is...While those of whom are may stake claim to be, pun intended, those on the VR are more subject to disregard claims rather than adhere to them. A lesson should have been learned a while back, do not stake claim, just go with the flow. Those of whom beg to differ, will have inquisitions. Challenges to either disprove for their own well being, or those of whom are, and challenge to see if you know what you are talking about.
All in all, if you are trueblood, and you are here, more power to you. As Gautham had stated in a previous thread, why make yourself known, lest it be out of selfish desires to say here I am.
We are, and always will be, nonetheless, if you were, you would pay no heed to the troublesome twats online which "make fun" of trueblood. Just adolescence that know no better.
I will not challenge your position, as I have no need to dwell on idol matters. Just advice for you whom claim to be. Watch your steps as you claim. You are being watched. No threats, no disrespect, just the simple facts of the way things are.
(Eats popcorn while watching this thread.)
I believe in Vampires..Not the kind who can turn you or anything like that..But ones who can feel and sense things..Feeding off energy and blood...People are afraid of things they dont understand
*Sits near soulshroude and munches on my bag of popcorn....Only one person read my post and commented on it....Damn i thought i wrote something interesting*
i wont make fun of the "true" vampire people that claim to be really vampiric,
but i dont not believe as they do...its a question of defining...there are many different definitions apparently of vampirims online, and especially on this site, you should prolly try to fall in with others that have the same view of vampirism as you do, of course this means, deciding which of the theories or if you have one of your own, that you subscribe to.
Also consider this, do you believe in vampires or vampirism
thank you WinterDarkMoon....and i'll say Thanks on behalf of soulshroude too...I hope its ok..but on the other hand i'm looking forward for a fight..Lol...
Fictional Vampires do not exist...As has been stated a million times in this site....So please define the term Vampire according to you...
well i welcome all questions and will answer to all who wish to know and i will get to all with personal messages just ask and i will answer ok.
I do believe that some people may try to be like a vampire in terms of drinkin blood or drainin energy but anything else that is part of the folk lore of vampires is just something not possable in my eyes.
LordValek
makes a fair offer to those who wish to ask a serious question.
It is human nature to kill or make fun of what they dont know about.And yes there are ppl watching or being watch,But What we are some of us claim to be we cant make fun.I am how can we claim to be these things and not exspect (bumbasses) or pppl to make fun. We should teach them understanding and if they dont want to hear it .....forget them we know who we are.
People believe in what they see, and until they meet a vampire, they are too close-minded to believe.
i am a modern vampire... for many reasons i can say i am and you're right, i've seen some people making fun of us. I don't like that, but i understand that sometimes it's better to make jokes about the things you don't understand.
Your right and for the ones who dont understand us should ask questions so they can try to understand.
Well Lajah it makes some sense on them to make fun of but the killing I dont see the purpose .
humens make fun of what they dont understand. it's int here nature.
i dont pay much attion to it. the lycans are the ones that grab my attion anyways.
Lrodvalek, as messaging does not help this site in general, why take it into messages? I have revealed myself in the forums, why not you? Quit with the subterfuge already. This is a "vampire" site is it not? As for Gautham, yes you may. But as for the fight...Down boy...No cookies for you, LMAO!!
Well for your info I have brought my self out but why should I again bring my self out if no one believes answer that one and I dont like cookies just blood.
I've looked at a few profiles and i have to agree that some people are mocking vampires
I think it is too bad of people to make fun of someone because of their personal beliefs.
It takes all kinds to make the world a more interesting place to be!
Awww i want cookies.....Well soulshroude remember what i wrote in your forum that most of the members who claim to be real vampires are those at low levels..Take a good look above....
I do not make fun of people who are modern day vampires as in Sang and psy....but those who claim to be ficyional vampires...well maybe....
I wish some would just get off it already, mature into knowing what you are really does not concern those out of your own society.
Some should start reading the context of posts as some are a bit misunderstood. Takes me a bit aback that the most responses are still coming from those Gautham likes to call "lower level" and what I like to call the adolescence of the VR.
P.S. Who gives a whole hell what you feed upon, or consume on a daily basis.
well lord ppl have hunted down and killed thing they didnt understand for years...witches,vamp,were...hell anything.that way i take the time and learn. Hell i mean if someone say they are a were cow(lol) I would laugh about it but i will try to learn..lol i bet that would be some crazy lookin sht.
If they dont believe why waiste our time and and theres
Exactly why is there is need to prove to anyone what you are?You are what you are and one is not always what he THINKS he is.If you believe you are a vampire then continue to do so but also understand that when you post in a public forum and you represent your kind....be careful what you say and how you say it....People can easily make assumptions about your kind if you speak in a childish or immature manner.....
This post does not refer to anyone in particular......
Gauthum my friend I couldn't agree more. Anyone who thinks that modern living vampires are going to become somehow an accepted cultural norm is really kidding themselves. This is a subculture that with it's name alone has put itself in for a great deal of controversy by automatically associating it with fiction characters.
All belief aside, no one should expect the average person to even try or attempt to understand what you are. People are far too self involved to really consider taking time out to get to know your belief system. Instead, people should get used to the idea right away that if you call yourself a vampire, a great majority of the populace and even a fair amount of VR subscribers will think you're off your nutter.
see, people are dumb. they will try to get you vamps killed. they don't understand you, so, they kill what they don't understand.
like...i kill spiders...cause i hate them...cause they could like....bite me. but then again, i love snakes, and sharks.
People, by nature, are very closed-minded. We all have been at one point or another, right?
We all know that you either have to work at it, or something happens, that helps you break those set standards and barriers down, and helps open your mind to new possibilities.
The people who will not consider it as an option, that's closed-mindedness. Simply being stubborn without logic, or reason, or researching it further, that's what closed-mindedness is.
However, if someone takes the time to research it and comes to the conclusion that they do not believe, then that's their own personal opinion, and I always respect that.
I am not a vampire, but I don't make fun of other people who are or say they are. I myself find vampires very intriguing. I would love to meet one.
those who make fun of vamps do not know wat they are talking about...one day theyll come across a vamp and will be startled by the energy surrounding him/her but agreeing with the first post to this...we do need the flesh
people who dont believe, eh. *shrugs* i dont have to prove myself to you. i know what i have to go through, you dont. honestly i have better things to do with my time.
Everyone has their own beliefs. Laughing at someone is just plain rude.
If you don't have something nice to say then keep your mouth shut. No sense in being close minded to other beliefs. Remember everyone is different that's what makes us unique.
Hunters you say? I think not, the only hunters that exist are zionists who dreadfully fear both "witches" and "goths". I have had several stakes come my way, only to have those holding them arrested for assualt. You do stupid things, and the world with come crashing down on you.
Trueblood are as human as the rest of society with only minor differance, as I have already spoke about in a now R.I.P. thread cleanly named Vampires and You.
If you are going to take these things seriously, then I will welcome you. If not, then do not bother, as I will be among the rest of the VR to mock those who like to RP.
Are there really that many who make fun of vampires? I mean I have seen a couple. It seems like a bad place to come make fun of vampires if you ask me. Not that I am suprised people would.
kathryyn has a good point about the close mindedness of the general public to all non-mainstream.
i believe that in a point in time vampires did and do exist who is to say that they didnt that is like trying to say that cave men never existed which we know is not true at all i mean think about it how do we really know what other types of human life there are and what they are and who is to decide ?
Someone can not believe in something and still love and want to be it. For instance someone could not believe that real immortal vampires exist and still be fascinated by them and even want to be or meet one. The logical place to look for something that you don’t believe in would be places that people claim to be just that you don’t believe in hang out. So if someone loves vampires but doesn’t believe in them and there are real vampires on Vampire Rave then the non believers are still in the right place. As for people who just want to waste their own time and the time of others I just don’t get that. It takes a lot of my time to be here on Vampire Rave and I love it here. I think people who just want to waste time and offend other people will get bored and not stick around long anyway.
I don't understand why someone would come on a site they have no interest or belief in, there pretty sad if they just come on here to be ignorant & rude to people, just proves what a stupid mentality they have
Why even bother with those who mock you or disbelieve in you? You don't need their validation or acceptance. So long as you know who and what you are and you're comfortable with it, piss on the rest of them. Those who are truly interested in understanding you will approach you in a respectful manner.
Now as has been stated previously by others more learned than myself, the fictional vampires in all liklihood do not exist. But I do believe, having come across more than a few, in psyvamps. I have also come across people who drink blood for pure enjoyment rather than need. As a serious question, are those that drink in this way also considered vampires?
vampires are not mythical creatures... it is a lifestyle...one that is not for everyone... no one has the answers for what they are, but we should celebrate the unique and beautiful essence of every single soul...
You may choose to think it is a lifestyle and live to those standards, making a mockery of what the term "vampire" actually means if that is your thing, but I am afraid it is no desicion of lifestyle. As most trueblood live, walk, and act as normal society does, there is no dress code for "the children of the night" (lol), save for the lifers who have taken on a certain quality to "fit in". Subdued by the thoughts of what society shuns, just to spite society as a whole.
Do what you need to do, lifestyle or no, just remember, that some in this world do not have a set lifestyle. We just are.
Well seeing as this is a site for vampires hence the name..... I don’t really see the point of becoming a member unless you have some interest........ Joining and mocking the beliefs of others is the pass time of simpletons.
To be here is to have some belief or love of the culture. I think the one's that belittle the beliefs of those here should prob just be a little more open or move on.
I don't think it's so much that members here don't believe in vampires, but that they have seen a lot of role players come through claiming that they are vampires who were "turned" some 1000 years ago and who insist on speaking in ye olde english to you... That gets a bit grating after a while.
Good call Drakontion, the phrases I thank ye m'lord, and thou art right sire...Are roleplay terms alone and have not been used for centuries.
As Gauthum stated in an earlier thread, let those who choose to act, act. As they may be of lower level and just getting to know the Rave. Not knowing what to expect.
As they would think this site would be like all others. Variation of roleplay and knowledge. But in time will soon figure that once they hit the higher levels will disgard the various terms and just be themselves.
But, hey...I do not speak for all, act as you will, and be treated as such.
Live and let learn.
the eternal damnation... what is true and what is not... myths and realities...
bla bla bla, bla bla bla... some of you guys spoke as if you know the only existing truth, you guys speak about vampires, and there are many members claiming to be one... and that's alright... role playing is fine... but discrediting real, supernatural vampires is other thing, when you say that you are a psychic vampire and go discrediting the real stuff, you are being arrogant and ignorant... i can say that i am a god, and no one can say that i'm not... why? because i can say that i was illuminated, and everyone can be a god, they just need to be illuminated, they are still blinded... and i can even say that the almighty God does not exist, but the reality is, that i'm just a mortal, with the freewill to think and say whatever i want... but that, does not change things, if God exist, He does not need you or me to believe in Him for Him to exist... and this is valid with the vampires, whatever you think or say does not change a fact... supernatural vampires exists, i know that for sure.
you can play, you can argue whatever you want, nothing about them is going to change...
there are real life vampires I find it appaling that people dont believe.. there are several types of vampires sanguine, psi and sunnubi/incubi to list a fewI belong to a group that is fro vampires and otherkin.. it is very informativeI was born knowing i was different..I am a psi vamp we are just a hybrid perhaps..
I think the reason why some on this site make fun of those who claim to be vampires is simply because many claim to be the hollywood version. I have found those with the most against people claiming to be vampires, are those who are vampires. Many have harsh feelings towards role-players and so on.
There is no reason to be ignorant or to "pose". Then again theres little reason to be disrespectful by just being outright rude.
to the ppl who belive in vampires how do u know they are real? i want to belive they are but without seeing one its kind of hard.
I'm not a vampire myself, but I've always been very interested in the culture. I want to learn more about it.
As for people that make fun of it.... they're obviously not very open minded. I wouldn't make fun of something unless I knew enough about it to form an opinion.
I laugh at those fools that make fun of us that are vamps...and try to pay them no mind
I have met humans that drink blood,
but they don't call themselves vamps,
or dress in black goth, or avoid the sun...
I have always dreamed of vampires like
in the stories. I would love to meet one.
Mostly, because I love old things...castles,
art, people...they have history, and that
facinates me.
I prefer fictional vampires. Many here say they are vampires. None of them appear to hate being one, unlike some fictional vamps. I believe what they believe about themselves.
I myself also since being on this site have recieved many question pertaining to Vampires and who and what we are and some of the questions Ive gotten have been down right stupid and were their meere effort at making fun of Who we are and what we stand for ... Peopel like that are pathetic and Just show their maturity
what if there´s one day when we can live in the open and tell everybody who we are and what we do...
i really think that the ones like us are more than we believe...
then, i´d like to see the faces of those who think we are freaks...
if people don't want to believe in our kind then let them be that way us vampires know we are who we are and that should be all we need.
You know, after reading all these I am's, I am wondering if I should start asking people what makes you think you are what you think you are, if not the lifestyle, or by choice, but by blood. But than again, that subject has been buried so far into the ground, it has become pathetic, and overly used.
I won't pretend to be a vampire because I know that I'm not,but I do believe other creatures exist in this world of ours. weather or not vampires exist I don't know but I would like to think so.
i believe there are many types of life forms and those who dont should open thier minds because what will they think when it is proven to them that other life forms do exist ?
I don't believe that I am a Vampire,but I do know that I am different.I don't believe in the movie Vampires but I do believe that their is a Vampire being or culture of Vampires out there,and I do believe that there may be an immortal breed of Vampire out there somewhere.People just fear thimngs that they don't understand.Anything is possible.Open your minds and think of the possiblitys.
I don't really believe that there are creatures or "kin" such as Vampires, werewolves, or anything else for that matter but it doesn't keep me from trying to learn and see things from other peoples point of view.
I honestly believe that if you claim you are a true kin you need to get some help. But that is just me. It doesn't mean that I hate you or want to make fun of you for making saying such things..just makes me more curious as to why and how you can call yourself that.
I have an open mind to things but i would believe more in vampires if i seen a real one, a lot of people claim to be vampires but i can not believe that they are true vampires, just because someone sais they can drain another persons energy or because they need blood or they will get sick does not mean they are a real vampire, i think that if their are vampires out their they would die without blood, and when i read in someones profile about how much they go into the sun, i tend to disbelieve that they are a true vampire, but that is just my opinion...
I myself am not one, I love the culture and the atmosphere. I would never make fun of any of you :) Thats rude and hurtful, and I myself am not like that. But I will say that I do not believe that any of the "myths" are true. I am in no way afraid of some day meeting a real one. Nor would I be so closed minded to say that it may never happen.
Vampires should not be feared at all, we are all people.
I believe most humans refuse to except the truth about vampires because, it would be admitting we are no longger top of the food chain. No longger the king of the world. Most have a real hard time dealing with it.
No, that would not be correct at all. "Humans" have a big trouble admitting that they are real because "real" vampires are a myth. People that live the vampiric lifestlye are not. And most are very wonderful people.
I'm not a vampire nor do i pretend to be one but i am fasinated by the culture and joined VR to learn more not only about vampires but a number of different myths, religions, points of view etc and not opening your mind and being accepting of other people's believes is not only being stupid and ignorant but it defeats the entire point of VR.
the vampire lifestyle has been documented throughout time... attaching the word lifestyle does not mean you are any less of a vampire, it only means your life follows that of a community of similar beings... do not twist my words...
but there are lifestyles that even if you live according to them, does not make you that...
you can live as a king, but there is a very, very, long distance between you a real king... and this is for vampires to...
well then if these people think we are not real then what would keep them from taunting us after we talk to them.
Soulshroude, you are nothing but a roleplayer and a fake. You have no idea of what leaks from your hole...
Wow, in a post no less, an adolescent speaks to me as if they know me. I will not give you the pleasure of insults to injury as this is not my way.
I could not care less what you think of me. I am that I am, nothing can change this fact. But if you are going to insult, do it in messaging and not "flame" members inside threads.
It is all just juvenile anticts such as yours that consume society which in turn causes malicious acts such as close minded violence toward those they either fear, or loathe. Prove me wrong.
Govern yourself accordingly, humility goes a long way.
to really understand what the true meaning is to be a vampire ppl would have to go to where it all started the true story please visit Romania or transalvania to find the real truth of what being a vampire means i believe in their existance and why they hide in dark places now or order the true story of vlad the impaler and see for your self ...and please don't make fun of what you don't understand ...
I know what I am and I know what I'm not. Believing in vampires is no less ignorant than believing in anything. Just because one has not walked up and introduced themselves dosn't mean they don't exist. I have never seen one dose not mean I have not seen one. seeing is not believing. Making fun of somthing shows fear.
i do believe in vampre, i may have not seen one but i know that they are real. i could have seen on and even talked to one. what people on this form have said is true, what people are afaird of is not always that bad, you never know that you might fall in love with a vampire and not know it.
yup.
i belive in vampireism. but, show me a true vampire...please, some1, and i'll prolly beable to prove u wrong.
i wanna see the teeth grow out, and the nails grow. i wanna see the beauty, and the streanth.
just for the record, indeed the teeth and nails grow, and they have way much more strength than us... but, the beauty part it's not true... if they were beautiful before being a vampire, then they will continue to be for a few years, but they tend to get uglier faster than we do... is something like this... The Interview With the Vampire is near the truth in some aspects, their powers and some stuff they say in the movie, but that black and white movie Nosferatu was near the truth in other aspects, like their appearance... yeah, i know... it seams fullish, but when you turn to the dark side, there's nothing pretty in it... ask Satan, he was one of the most beautiful angels in heaven, and you know what? because he was so beautiful, pride made him fall... yep, the first sin in the universe... pride...
the way i see it ppl dont want to believe in vamps cause they are worried about what other ppl will think about them. they are worried that they will get locked up as insane . i myself know for a fact that vamps do exist.
To be a Vampire within the Mortal world, you must be smart and keep all secrects within the clan. Vampirism exist, but, only a few of mortals are lucky to be selected to know them.