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I'm referring to fictional vampires.

Why would romantic love be important to an immortal being?

From the perspective of the immortal, it would be an act of Reminis, mayhaps they had a love at one point in their eternal lives that they would wish to relive through another individual...

I'd think a good motivation for it would be emotional stability. After all, if you are a changeless immortal, the one thing you would find consistent in everything but yourself would be change itself. This dilemma is obviously a hinge-point in so many romantic vampire tales, and for great reasons.

The whole concept can be experienced on a very basic level by all of us though. If we just recall how we feel when we watch those people and places, that were so dear to us as children, fall by the wayside of passing time ..it all seems to click.

Existing for the sake of existing seems quite a hollow thing. What is eternity really worth without the someone to share it with? I suppose that answer will differ from person to person, but for myself, I can't see it being satisfying. The idea then, in such a situation, that you could count on something like the hopeful stability of the love of another, and not just the expectant stagnation of time itself, must be a very appealing thing to such a creature.

Nice question.

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Why would love be important to even a mortal being? It doesn't make sense no matter how you view it. i think if someone were to become immortal, if it were possible, they would desire companions. Why would your life-span affect your desire for someone to understand and accept and be fond of you?

But the reality is that vampires are fictional, and that they only desire love if their author wants them to.

At least, that is my opinion.

Love to an immortal, yet we must look back and see that once vampires were thought to be with out compassion or feeling, yet the movies have changed and brought the romance to the dead. Companionship would be the biggest thing yet the most hurtful thing to, for the mortal would soon die and the loss of love would to, watching those you love die around you.

Maybe it is a feeder thing. To slowly consume the mortal energy, yet who is to know. And as stated above, vampires in books and movies are what the author or director wants them to be portrayed as. Simple answer

Companionship, yes, but why not hang with your own kind?

Why be drawn to a human?

Probably for what they may lack in themselves. oppisites atract, the ability to see what life in the sunlight or their feelings and passion.

I think that they would have come to miss these very human things, from an innocent blush to the freedom of daylight. to be a vampire (traditional sense) would be such a different life after so many years. they may even miss the fragile aging of a human. that would draw them in. they want what they can not have.

Yes...why would they be drawn to a human...also I think that a vampire would be loving maybe on a higher or different level possibly!

It would be good if the immortal had fallen in love with another or maybe was able to turn a mortal into an immortal. But if not, it would only bring hardship and pain because they would have to watch their love age whiel they stayed young and healthy.

Everyone always brings up the fragile human aging and withering, but when you talk to people who are aging and withering they don't see themselves that way, except occasionally.

Older couples don't notice the changes in each other either (if they're otherwise healthy).

If some had a respect for aging, and the potential wisdom that might come with it, if they looked at a human's aging and dying as part of a spiritual journey, then it might not be so tragic, especially if the human did not want to be immortal.

Can you imagine that choice? The human refusing immortality while her lover remains the same?

Your right BLOODMOTHER, we do not see ourselves as an agining factor, for many birthdays we see people not willing to age.

yet if we look at the vampiric lore aging in fact would be slow, and our 10 years maybe a month to them, yet at some point in time they would miss the loves that they had had 40 years ago.

so i am sure this is why they talk so much on the aging concept. just like this example of a great movie. an ending.

Bloodmother states:
I'm referring to fictional vampires.
Why would romantic love be important to an immortal being?

I reply:
My most simple answer would be because they are fictional - as fictional vampires, they are created by humans. Because we have been told that romantic love is our greatest achievement from the time we are little - especially for little girls.

Bloodmother later states:
Companionship, yes, but why not hang with your own kind?
Why be drawn to a human?

I reply:
Again, it all depends on the authors plot. Some authors have vampires as very territorial, others have vampires in clans. Perhaps, they are drawn to humans because they were (almost) all once human themselves.

I have read one book where a vampire falls in love with a non-vampire and, rather than the non-vampire becoming vampire, he actaully chooses to become non-vampire. It was an interesting and welcome twist.

The non-vampire remains human, or somehow the vampire reverts?

The vampire was a scientist who created a formula which reverted him back to "non-vampire" so he could age along with his love.

Sounds like a good plot, almost as drastic as the blade series who hunts vampires that killed his mom, and wishes to find the cure to it.

If the vampire was put into this curse so to say unwilling would they infact hunt for the cure to it. to gain the love and life they had once.

Very romantic, but more realistic if after giving up his immortal unlife they break up. Then, like the guy who is suing his ex for the kidney he gave her while in the throes of love, they could settle it in court.

But romance blinds those who dwell within it, and as the dust settles and the smoke clears so do their insight.

But vampiric fiction would be as lately stated that it would be a love that never dies. seems like many stories have gone to after the wife or love dies a hundred years later they see a person resembling the love and try to go after them.

I enjoy a soulmate as much as any other, but after you lose your true soulmate to mortlity - you come to find that no matter how may follow they never fill that emptiness...

Love without romance would be like a chore. an act they we carry out everyday. romance would have to go hand and hand to keep the vampire and mortal together without it; they would just be a snack.

My opinion the love is the potential matter in the universe. It applicable to everything. I think love is capabe of invoking cores and potential matter in light side divinity as well as dark side divinty as well as materialstic living.

It can tract even God to you, this type of projection is necessary for surrender everything including the self to become eternal and living mateialistic mortal mattes aside and accepting immortal values of eternity with love.

Love is the charm used to meet in affection. Love is the venom to intoxicate to get the kin surrendered to us. This way Love is the psychic tool of vampyres as well as feminine.

it's interesting that you invoke love for both the light and dark side of divinity, venumstings.

It does seem to be a human refrain throughout recorded history, but not every culture embraces romantic love.

Doubtful that if other life exists in other universes that they also embrace this universal energy "love," cause I think it emanates from us, not into us from some divine source, only into us (or felt by us) through our minds.

Blood Mother there is forms on earth that breed just for the survival of there species and nothing else.

We must consider mortals as pastionate people who choose mates like wolfs on feelings and for life. Romance or love it is the determination of our species.

vampiric being once mortal may or may not in fact have the feelings yet cling to the mortal love for this.? Plasible.

Love is something worth living and dying for. Maybe to the immortal when they love a human they gain back some of their humanity and realize how fragile a heart or a person really is.

Love is a human emotion. Maybe they wish to hold onto that last vestige of humanity. If they can love then they still have a soul, and the possability of salvation in the end. Who knows.

"Love is a human emotion."


Hate to interject, but are you insinuating animals and such can't experience the emotion of love?

love is universal, every living thing(almost) expeirence the love trait or emotion. it is not just given to mhumans.

so with this said a vampire would tend to cling to human as they may have the traits in which the vampiric person does not posses, or longs to have.

I don't believe animals experience "romantic" love.

Some animals are more loyal than others, and there's that mating for life thing, but it's rare in mammals.

Not sure "bonding" is love, like how a dog can bond with its owner. Has a lot to do with food.

Wouldn't you call mating and love different things? We can hardly see into an animals mind to tell how it feels about another animal -- we can't base anything off of just seeing the act.

why should animals fell no emtion of love, wolfs mate for life and when they feel a loss they do morn, like whales and other animals no to feel emtion, why is it based only on human expierence.

There's a way to tie this bend in the discussion to vampires. Help me out here.

I think what it goes back to is whether the vampire is more animal or more human, whether an immortal creature is following its baser instincts or if it retains a semblance of humanity (a soul? abilility to love?).

Even though the vampire feeds on human, would he/she care more about humans or less?

Where's the romance here?

Depending on the time of the bloodmother, as in old vampires were based more on the animal instinct to hunt and to destroy without emotiuon to say the least,

yet along the vampiric tales have now gotton more humanized, they show compassion or feelings. they look unto mortals as an equal to say in the art of romancing. twilight and a few others have taking the vampire from 30 days of night to romance and opera.

and soon the art of vampirism in the movie will change once more depending on the culture or the societies views of the once fabled monster.

I think it's to remind them for only if for a moment they once were mortal. For those that a true bloods then it's to attract their prey and or continued doners.

I don't see why it wouldn't be important to an immortal to have romance. I mean, wouldn't you feel alone if you were immortal, and even more alone if you didn't have someone you loved in a romantic way?
I would, I think. I can't imagine living without love, and I am not even that romantic.

I think it boils down to how the vampire feels about power.

Power more than love.

Just finished the fourth in Charlie Huston's Joe Pitt vampire series. There are various vampire clans vying for power in Manhattan. Each has a political philosophy associated with vampirism. And some seem to have a ready supply of blood. Where's it coming from?

Not a good place is all I'll say.

But I think neverending rampaging and slaughter would get boring. But that's just me. I'd want romance, and I'd want it with humans who seem to crave it, too. Romance and love would soften the tedium of immortality, and while each new love might bring sorrow and loss, there would also be the joy. Vampires are survivors, and I think some would go for bliss.

i think it's because vampires are portrayed from being really old and originally came from an era when chivalry was alive is why romanticism is portrayed as important to them.

Besides the usual vulnerabilities --- sunlight, etc. Romantic LOVE may be the modern vampire's Achilles' heel.

..Because to find a romantic love, and to think that this love will die as time passes, while you live forever, is painful. I have been single my whole life...so, I am used to living that way!!

I believe that a vampire could feel love just like everyother emotion they have. But it could also be a remnant that they choose to hold dearly.

As for animal love. My mom had two dogs that were mates. The female got sick and died. The male refused to eat for a week, he finally sat on the side of the road and when a car finally drove by. He jumped in front of it and died. And he always watched for cars before crossing.

It's weird, but true.

In fiction, it just depends upon the writers imagination. It is the preception of love that he/she gives the vampire.

probably because just being immortal would get old after awhile. it would be lonely without someone to love.

it would get old after awhile, living life, watching loved ones die and be forgotten, changing your idenity, becuase you would not want to draw attention to yourself. life ever changing.

maybe so they wouldn't be so lonely. think about it, your living hundreds of years alone, watching humans be in love and you are alone, for hundreds of years. just because a being is undead, doesn't mean they are devoid of feelings and urges.everyone needs love.

The authors of our time have formulated their characters to want romance and as such we have come to think immortals want romance. If you were once human and became immortal then I would agree but if you are a pure blood, it would be more for survival of a species.

For fictional, immortal vampires, why would it be important? That should be a no-brainer.

Vampires would want romantic relationships with people because they would have a life forever, lonely, if they did not have any relationships.

that's kind of obvious.

Yet fictinal vampires would look for that one true love which was lost, gaining another one for their life. Emtional states that vampires never claimed to have until recently with hollywood.

So let me get this straight, cadrewolf, the original Dracula didn't have 3 hot babes in the castle? True, he abandoned them in Transylvania, left them high and dry in a country they'd already decimated leaving behind only fat, canny humans who hid together in the light.

Also, why didn't he treat Mina to the same decadent jolt as he did Lucy? He dawdled with her virginal self . . . that's kind of romantic.

perhaps not a sage response but i feel a true one.
because they are basically like us. we love the excitement of a new romance. it makes the heart beat faster and makes one feel truely alive.
rather important for the undead i would think LOL
~Wolf~

Bloodmother, yes in the dracuyla he did have three babes as you put it, but they where in my reasoning looking for the loss of his wife he claimed another and another.

When mina arrives she is the sptting image of the wife he lost a long time ago and that would be in fact his only love to try and regain, putting the others to the side.

So if vampires show this trait than 100 or 200 years down the line, a face from the past would be triggered and the hunt for the time that was lost.

This is just my opinion... Vampires may be drawn to a human because they probably feel in love with him/her.

They probably can't help themselves from falling in love that's probably why they didn't stick to their own kind.

Love is love, whether it be mortal or immortal.

Maybe it is only a human interpretation of the entertainment in playing with one's food? A quick dream of normalcy.

romantic love I think has more depth than just lust on it's own. To know and embrace the whole being is a gift, why would one to know immortality without knowing romance with it.

Well because as same as mortals, you want to share time and space with someone you feel good with? why would be any different if you are immortal, everyone want luff, luv, love...there =P

To end the bordom of being alone. Because living forever, watching the lives of those around you change and die because of the people they have met and in some case slept with.
Also as a way to feel that they are in some way still human on some level of thinking.

Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. Even immortals would have needs, and one of them is security, which many people find in a steady, romantic relationship. Also, it is a basic trait to crave companionship.

Nocternal Dea Nosferatu,
Thy power flows freely in thy night, to love and be loved yet desired by fright.
Thy Mortals long for thy Immortal bite, to free them from thy world of spite.
Immortal Love is blessed be, for the one who falls to me.
Thy Majic course thy veins and send your love in to the flames.
Those that dare to learn of thee, shall rein ever supreme to thee.
For those that flee into the night, thy hunt them down and turn thy kiss to bite.
For all eternity one seeks in truth, to gain in perfect love and be to thee true.
Thy secret is not to fall to thee, but give of yourself unconditionally!
Then Immortal love shall pass from me to you as it shall last.

Blessed be thy eternal Nosferatu.
RomaMarie Romaunauti

I am assuming we are talking on a wider scale than Stoker's views (ie: Nosferatu a non existant word misheard by the author Emily Gerard). It has now fallen into the ranks of fictionally used. Most vampires are portrayed as secretive or very alluring and some very hideous (Radu). Most often there is a lost love factor as in Dark Shadows ('66 to '71) where he lost his love and then in that story was cursed by a witch and became a vampire. The doctor in the story created a serum to cure him but the storyline is complicated so sometimes he is almost human again and other times not at all. Although I have always thought perhaps being a vampire in fiction was just a condition that brought out the more feral side of man. They are generally considered undead rather than the walking dead who are most often referred to as zombies.

Think about it, at the time you are in the height of love, the amorous euphoric stage, it wears off they say. Most marriages now only last a little over two years. Do you think whether a vampire or human if you wish to differentiate could be with the same person for centuries, lol? I find that hard to believe. Everyone thinks forever when they fall in love but then reality sets in and real world problems. I find it a situation that might be quite intolerable after awhile for an immortal.

Well, I'm sure after awhile of living alone for a very long time, they would need a way to fill the void, as some seem to always had people they would visit, until they found someone they loved. Then they would protect that person, as vampires seem very protective over ones they care about, and what is better to protect from the monsters at night then a human? Though some can protect theirselves. but hey...that takes the fun out of it.

I feel everyone deserves love weather they be immortal or human. everyone in the world needs someone to make life a lil more fun.trust me being lonely sucks ass royally.

Would the vampire fill his life with love of a mortal or would it infact to fill the void of what the vampire needs to see the changing days. Blood or just emotional needs.

I would like to think that over time of being an immortal, there grew some maturity about relationships. Let's say over centuries of loving and losing, it would have to become acceptable to them emotionally. Certain emotions would more than likely grow numb. I think it's interesting that authors would make a vampire to have human emotions. Some are written as dangerous creatures and then eventually romanticized. I guess it depends on how you write your vampiric character.

Sorvena, for a higher functioning vampire surviving over a long period of time, emotions would be the one variable that would keep life interesting. Simply because of their "unsameness" emotional ebb and flow, highs and lows, would vary the pace, the absolute flatness, of eternal life. Long-lived vampires might be the ultimate drama queens.

Mayne auther want to show a connection between the reader and the vampire. It might make the reaser feel like they can relate to the story because they rither have or want true love and it makes them feel better to see the sad immortal vampire to find someone to spend their time with

a being with the opportunity to transcend mortality isn't only going ot be of one personality type.

however, those who are satisfied on their own, might fare better than those who rely on others to define (accept, love, whatever) them.

I guess this is supposing that the object of their affection may not be immortal as well.

The Immortal want the love to satisfy thier needs. Being Immortal at times will be very lonely so if they chose to someone with them even if it's just for a while then they will take that chance and do what must be done to get satisfied.

Well whenever I am alone my conscious feel that any other conscious and spirit do accompany me and fills the vacuum around me and I feel its load. some time it penetrate me too...

Its not love or lust or dire, but its different from these three and not even strange... but its strange coz I do not exactly recognise that kin...

To remind them of the pain of living. Love and hate go hand in hand, they create the balance of life.

I know that if I was a vampire, I'd like to spend that long life with a significant other for sure...and this is coming from someone who is a loner and enjoys their own company in mortal form.

Umm.. immortality can get boring and such things help stimulate... the... mind?

I agree with birra. I bet they're bored to death. *chuckles* oh oh the ironi in that one.

Anyone noticed how often you hear about the fictional vampire whose never actually -been- with a human before. If I was immortal I would've been with hundreds. I mean, love is a big part of life, and apparently (hence all the so-called horror ((romantic)) movies) it matters in the afterlife too.

On the other hand, seeing how big a part those big feelings such as love and hate and all that are in the human-life, I think it's become a habit. One that maybe only the elder fictionary vampires have gotten rid of. As when we hear about vampires in books or movies that still breathe (understandable in movies; you cant really command an actor to not breathe). Lol. Short career then.

I agree with Birra due to the fact it is a long time to live and sometimes having a partner brings newness to life.

Frigid bodies writing in ecstasy, lacking an internal temperature like eternal sex toys? Following the human agenda: setting goals, adhering to a time line, even wearing a watch, would precede falling in love for a vampire. Immortal beings would need a tether, otherwise they'd lose touch w/time.

to be reminded there is something stronger than them. a bond is a bond and also its the attraction to what they may or may not have been. think of it along the lines as if a human were attracted to a vampire. its the fascination the mystery of being intrigued with feelings emotions life with the bounds of death. where could there be a greater love than to love eternally and even past death.

well, whereas i believe that the immortal if he/or she were to fall in love, its not because they've become complete creatures of pleasure, but it's because mortal love is something that they have been so long without, like an oasis in a desert, that they are willing to protect and cherish it at all costs.


there was one book in a library called, ''the vampire book'', that was a collection of short stories, and in one, the vampire was a manwhore. But vampires are often portrayed as such, aren't they?

It is stated in one of the Dracula movies..I believe it was Van Helsing in which Dracula mentions that he cannot feel anything..however he feels love? Not sure how that is possible if he has no heart to speak of.

On the other hand...what better way to live out eternity than to find your true love?

Everyone needs to be loved.. there is no difference if they are immortal or not.. every single person needs attention and something to make them believe that they are worth..

i believe everything deserves love even an immortal being such as a vampire i mean eternity without love is not a good thing but the vampire will be lonely so they will need to be with someone so they rly need someone to spend there eternity with

Immortality is saturated with a hardcore, blood-laced reality. One could either make a game of playing with one's food, or go in the complete opposite direction. Romance requires illusion. And practice. What better way to idle away the hours, days, decades than with eros, especially young love, ever renewed, ever pure.

Hmm, what about the half your age plus 7 thing...

A vampire that was 400 years old would find themselves pulling out thier scraggly hair trying to deal with an immature 37 year old.

I've dated people half my age...
the novelty wears off quick, even if they are smart and "mature for their age."

Maybe an immature vampire could do it... or one with emense compassion... or one that was simply a player, and threw them away like condoms.

maybe thats what they mean by always and forever? in their case its immortality. vampires are not social creatures by rights. the tolerate each other but they do share a bond. may not be what we could consider as love but in their eyes thats love to them,

I think it is because they want to try and feel something something that a human can feel an emotion

KGlitterous: Vampire seeks mature, experienced soul mate, 200-years-old preferred, but will consider bloodsuckers up to 500+ years, as long as your ability to suspend disbelief is still functioning.

The only way to beat an addiction is to replace it with a stronger addiction.

love is an emotion that compels everyone. it gives them the drive to keep going to keep fighting to keep trying. it makes one feel complete if one dosen't have love then what is there to strive for why have evrything and yet have nothing. u can have all the wealth all the power in the world and yet you will still be broke and powerless cause whats the point in achiving everthing when there is no to share in that joy of succes or to aide you through your hard time and to help pick u up once u fall? there are three things that drive this world. they are FAITH, HOPE, LOVE.

I think because since it is fictional, the story gets more interesting if love is included.

So let me imagine if I was an immortal vampire, why would I search forl ove...

1. companionship

2. to have a meaning in my life, a goal

3. to still get attached to humanity

4. vampires can fall in love too

5. to be a Sire

Lust fades with time, hunger is quenched and then returns but at some point even hunger becomes more necessity than desire. Without romance, without a sense of the romantic there really is no reason to go on. Does it always work out? Of course not. Can it be used and misused? Without a doubt. But in the end, great sex (or feeding) without romance is not nearly as satisfying as good sex with the scent of romance. I will not say that love is required because love is too intangible and undefinable, but romance, to dance naked in the moonlight, is glorious.

Love is important to all people and creatures. The feeling of being wanted and loved. When one is loved he/she has a sense of belonging.

I think love is very important for immortals and mortals alike. Love for an immortal is just immortal love. To go through life with a partner. Being lonely is hard, imagine being lonely for hundreds of years. I think finding one's counterpart is a necessity no matter what realm your from. To all single vampires: Good luck in the pursuit of that other being.

I once read a paranormal romance where The vampires searched for they're hole existence to find there soul mate because after hundreds upon hundreds of years being around mortals things get boring when you can read they're mind and control them. When they find they're soul mate though it is the one person in the whole world who the cant read or control, also falling in love with a mortal meant they could be themselves because around other immortals they have to guard they're thoughts so as know one is to know they're personal thoughts and wants.