The Ultimate Vampire Resource and Directory

Does anyone here believe in bonds between people? Not just the normal obvious bonds, but the kind that allow you to feel someones emotions or pain even if your very far apart? Anyone have any experiences they wish to share?

In short, being humurous here I would have to say that "sympathy pains" are perfect bonds for those who love one another that much.

Sympathy pain? never heard of that. Though I know of sympathy pregnancy where you feel one or more symptoms of being pregnant from a prego near you often. I pick up on that way too easily... Wasn't good when 3 of my friends were prego :(

I believe in bonds. I have felt the emotions of someone I am close to when they're living over many miles. I can feel when they are sad or angry.

Only with certain people that I hold dear. I don't whore out my bonds, lol.

I have to laugh because must be a serious whore then BM because I feel bonds with many peeps.And while they are bonds,they are not always the same.

My personal experience with this is that I had a bond with my first love and now ex that allowed us to feel and even take eachothers pain even when we were apart. And now my fiance can tell when Im upset before we even talk when we are very far apart. Also i got very angry out of nowhere today, then she gets online and says how angry she is at people at that moment.

If I not looking at you or at least talking to you by phone I can't tell what knid of mood you are in nor do I want to.

i feel bonds easily with people, i feel it is a blessing and a curse because somethings i feel i wish i never knew about.

What some consider bonds, others are apt to consider them attatchments.

ie.. clingy.

Some individuals are more dependant then others, and certain individuals feel compelled to allow such attachment (though they don't always share the same intensity).

it goes to the associate, aquantaince, friend, confidant, and .. by degrees. to see people so personally divided by "bonding" with every other person they met is rather distressing. One never knows how such seperations(breaking of bonds) will fall out.

kindred vitae is a act that is said to bind individuals with great strength also perhaps the bond of a soulmate is one as well and bonds of twins

Oh, yes... most definately.
I'm just to desensitized to care;
perhaps too self centred...
I'm not sure which.
It would be nice if I could reciprocate such things, but I really don't usually even pay attention when it's in front of me; how can I be expected to care when it's not. I do usually nail when I am being thought of by people, but again... that is more about me, than them.
I find it easier to bond with dead people than living. But then, most living people are dead, and most dead are living...

meh.

Very true Dab, but not quite the bonds I was talking about. Then again, maybe being too clingy to someone will allow you to feel what they feel even if your far apart.

Sympathy pregnancy I have heard of normally between a wife and husband...so I have been told.

Also woman in groups tend to have periods together....which I do find odd...is that a form of body bonding *chuckles*

I am a twin and I feel a bond with my twin sister, she and I share many things.

My sister and I have this bond you talk of. She is very sick right now and I can tell when she is having a bad day and she can tell the same thing with me.
We end up calling each other a lot because of this.

Bonds grow the more we're around certain people or feel a certain pull to a particular someone we grow fond of.

TheBan, unfortunately you don't have to marry someone to get sympathy pregnancy, you just have to be around them often. Though some people aren't sensitive to it and never get it. And some like me feel it way too much...

Sara, perhaps that is more of a preoccupation. While one presumes to be "tuned" to another, it is often a rapid sucession of thoughts relating to their where abouts, and well being, factored into how well one recalls their schedule. However without actually comparing for accuracy (unless one speed dials and inquires at every jittery hunch) as to the persons emotional state at that present time.

Another factor is that some have a more set range/spectrum of emotions. we generally pick-up (in brief exchanges) a persons base emotional state, this lingers with us after, this often increases ones preoccupation with that person.. Be it positive, or negative minded..

That could be true in most cases Dab, however how does it explain how so often I'll get emotions that I don't know where they come from and then she'll get online and tell me how she's doing and feeling and it would be the same thing I had just felt? No brief talks or seeing eachother involved, we are very far apart.

SeraConner I know, that is why I said normally : ) It's rather like you don't have to marry someone to get pregnant! @@

I am led to believe the menstrual cycle of woman does change and becomes similar to other woman of the same group when they spen really long periods of time together....I would be interested to know why this is...only because I have never looked into it!

Is this myth or real?

In my opinion, there is no greater bond than that between a Mother and her child. I can not even count how many times I go to pick up the phone and just when I am about to call my daughter, she calls me....or how many times I have a pain somewhere to only later get a call from my daughter that she was having the same pain, etc. The list goes on and on.

I do not have that bond with my friends though, only her.

I myself feel a strong bond with people im close to especially my girlfriend. She can be upset and I will know it before she tells me about it. We live about 3 hours apart so in our case it helps me know what she is thinking and I usually can always tell when she is in trouble or distress.

I have always been able to sense others emotions even if im not especially close to them. It makes a difference with those that i am really really close to because I feel their emotions as if they were my own, even to the point of being physically sick if they emotional conveyance is strong enough.

I have looked into this question both on a scientific basis, a scientific basis and an evidential basis.

My conclsuion is one can form very close bonds in a relatively short space of time, particularly if that period involved alot of emotional energy.

I.e. brothers in arms, a mother and baby.
there is evidence of waves that connect us all that we may not be able to detect with current methods.

When we meet others and touch them here is always a transfer of matter and energy no matter how small...hence forensic science to detect crimes etc.

Perhaps there are other inter dimensional elastic strings of energy we cannot see? the frequency of which denotes the type of bond.

on a pyshchic and empathic level it happens ll the time. People can tell when friends that are far way something is wrong. they have also study twins for a genetic link

with those i love dearly yes.....my sis always new i was preg before i did she would get butterflies in her tummy and phone me and say do i test your preg again lol and I would know it was her ringing me (without caller id) lol and I knew the precise moment my dad died also which was a terrible feeling

the degrees of empathy are only a fraction of what a bond is. a bond extends to a shared obligation. a fusing of two. As VB states a Mother, and daughter.. Parent and child are a fine example of a bond. Perhaps this thread is becoming a thread on empathy..

A bond between two people come in many different forms. One of them being a very strong and unbreakable bond is when someone saves anothers life whether the two have been friends for a while or not. They tend to become friends and have that bond. Another is a best friends bond where they've been friends so long nothing is going to come between them no matter what.

I have several friends that i've known for a while where i can feel when somethings wrong with them.

I have a few friends that have had things happen and I ask them and something is wrong and i stay near them to help them through as best I can.

I'm a twin, so I do believe there can be very strong bonds between people.

As very small children, my brother and I lived in different towns for a few months, as he was having health issues. My Father told me of the times when I would cry the house down for no good reason at all only to find out via phone that at that very moment my brother would be having trouble breathing. Things like that occured many times.

Many years later, we are still able to just know when the other is having problems, be it health wise or other, without being in contact with each other.

Love responses I'm seeing here. And yes dab, if you read my original post,you'd see that is the type of bond I was talking about. Sorry for not adding the word empathy into the description.

Empathy between Twins, mothers...

Let us imagine the brains of the Twins are connected by minute interdimensional elastic strings that vibrate between say
100,000 Ghz and 110,000Ghz ....as they go about their daily lives.(the figure is irrelevant)

When one Twin is ill or distressed the strings vibrate differently, sending distress messages.

Useful in evolution and technically possible.

Perhaps upon death they break? anyone heard stories about such events. I have.

My husband and I have a very special bond. Our spirits bonded before we ever met.
Now that we are together we both feel each others emotions and pains even when we are away from each other.

I do believe in this Bond, before we got married and we were just friends way before we got married my wife and I shared this sort of bond. We knew when each other was upset or something was wrong and we would be on the ph askin wats up/happening.

Well yes as it has been said already nothing is stronger then abond between a mother and her child.... my now 12 year old has always. Known when something was wrong with me ... just as I always know how he is feeling.... and yes the connection between two people be it soulmates twins. Can be very strong as well, there has been many trials done on twins over the years to prove that theory...

I think its possible for two people to be extreemely bonded togetherr. Unfortunately, we are usually not fortunate enough to find this person.

As an empath with lousy shields, I keep picking up other peoples feelings or pains all the time and I don't have a 'bond' with most of them. At least not from my side lol. And when I have a 'bond' with like say my bf or my best friend, I keep picking up their emotions all the same.

I certainly believe in bonds. I have two people that I've been extra ordinarily close to for quite some time, and no matter what happens, nothing ever changes that. It is kind of neat to think about all the things you've been through with these special people yet the relationship had/shared between you can never be changed by anything/one. I enjoy thinking about it sometimes.

good forum post

absolutely.
i have the sympathy pains others mentioned with nearly everyone (unless they absolutely repulse me as a person) but with a few people, even people i do not know well, or are very far away i have experienced something more, where i have felt the effects before i knew anything was wrong.. waves of emotion is how i could best describe it

So does anyone have any theories as to why these type of emapthic bonds form?

I'm a triplet so I have a very strong bond with the other two.
Normally, if one is sad, we get a call from the other two asking if we are okay.
We even speak as one person sometimes.
It's kind of funny for us but really confusing for others.

yes ive got a bon d with someone on vr i no when shes going to im me or how shes feeling what shes thinking as she dose me its great like were of the same mind

Theban beat me to it regarding the menstrual bonds.
That - and I'm sure other women here as well - I can vouch for.
At my old job, three or four of us women would have Mother Nature's wonderful bloody gift at the same time. Whoopee.

There are different levels of bonding .To bond with someone in some way does not in any way mean "clingy" to me.

The bonding between some members of the coven, is behind believe. Their pain and happiness is felt by all the members. Yes, bonding is part of VR.

If your past was full of this sence of emptyness, had this sence of loneliness, if you were and outcast, if you couldn't get along with people, and if you felt incomplete. Then your one of those people. One of the people who were born also into another. Half of you born into the person that will complete you. Before meeting that person, you feel just hollow, but when you do meet the person. You'll both know from the start. You'll never be without that person again. You've become inseperatable and your absolutely perfect for eachother. Your soul mate.

Very well said.... saddly some people don't. Ever find that other half, but for those that have, you just know it.

As a child i was told that I had a twin that was alive but far away. I would always feel something was happening . It scared me cause for no reason I would flip out, or become emotional. Then one day I woke up at 2:31am with a feeling of death like as if I was completely dead inside. I watched the news in 1994 to find out that my twin brother was killed in Australia. They caught the man who killed him to find out he shot the wrong person.........since then I've felt even more alone in this world.

There are some bonds, where you have in a past life, you met the person way back, and you know they are brother and sister.

Lovisa, nice said about the soul mates, but what sadly, that doesnt always works out like that. What if the other half is married and totally barrels the feelings and connection? What if the other half goes so far to psychologically abuse you till you cant feel but pain and hate and just want to see them gone?

Believe me, soul mates isnt always as dreamy and wonderful as it is portrait in poems, songs and movies. I could do very well without that bond.

There is not one mate another is supposed to be with for a lifetime but one mate for each time in a person's life.

To play the Devil's Advocate, are you saying that you don't like the idea of marriage or that divorce is okay?

I think that there are several people in the world that each individual person could happily spend their life. Love and partnership at their core are not matters of obligation, but matters of choice and effort. Relationships take work and simply loving someone does not make the road straight and easy to walk.

There are people who we perhaps we are meant to love for only a little awhile, but there are also people who we could spend our whole lives with. We shouldn't rush into things, though, or jump to conclusions about the permanence of a partner.

I think marriage is a valid, sacred establishment and that divorce should not be the widespread occurance that it has become.

I don't mean to rant, but I merely think your post is valid and well composed, I just thought I'd present my personal viewpoint.

I feel Bonds are for real I have a bond from long ago

someone i have met in another time and place and yes reunited we are. And i feel this person all the time i feel his anger and pain but also his Love and anything he might be feeling.

I know when he is hiding things from me.
I have a few people i do this with but i feel we all knew of each other in a past life. and I feel some people Forge links for people and create feelings for them and are able to sense feelings this way its almost deeper then emotions they can sense life energy from them.

I don't know if this is what Hex was tring to say but, I think you can meet you're soul mate fall in love, but that doesnt meen that you can keep him. You have that bond, BUT he will still look at other women and still hit you and still hurt you emotionaly. And still you're soul mate, still bonded, still feel the empathy, still fall in the same dreams, still ....

Have to agree here. My first love, and the strongest bond ever, is not he girl I'm engaged to. And we never talk anymore either, but I still feel the pain of losing that bond with her sometimes.

Well, good.

As I said, I was playing Devil's Advocate in my reply. I do believe we are on the same page beliefwise.

Oh I totally agree with youther lovise.... each person can be looked up as a stepping stone until you take that final step and are standing. Next to the person ur supposed to be with.

I'm not sure how you played devils advocat with your question to be honest, but that might be my English. But I'll try to answer your question. Marriage for me has nothing to do with bonds of a soul mate. Marriage is a wordly thing, while soul mates is a spiritual thing. A marriage is something I decide to do, but I don' pick to have one or more soul mates :) Same for divorce, it's a personal decision one makes.

If you do a little research about soul mates you will stumble upon informations that a soul mate relationship can get very distructive when one or both can't handle the intensity of those bonds. From experience, I believe you have more then one soul mate, but not every bond you have with them is good.

Everybody in this post spoke of the so called good bonds, but what about the bad ones? They exist as well. I have one of those and I can tell you there were times it was killing me. It made me feel sick and I was not able to do anything about it. After 3 years I learned to shield myself from that bond, not 100%, but good enough that I don't want to cry all the time from the pain or think of killing myself over it.

I did have that one too. As I stated my first love and I felt eachother's pain whether we wanted to or not and learned to turn this into a good thing by sharing so neither of us felt too much. And it became really bad for me once the bond was severed.

Sorry I should have written it more clearly lol. I wasn't talking about feeling the other persons physical pain, like a headache. I was thinking more a long the pain it causes me that as example he didnt want to acknowledge the bond and abused me. That kind of pain.

I think that's why it hurts sometimes. She's shielded herself from me and I think the bond is still trying to be there...

Well I know that myself and my family have tight bonds even without being together, and many people do have a sense of feelings or bond with others even without being in the same place or know them as well as you do others, It is jsut being more intune with your sensitive side I think.

Menstrual synchrony (Bonding)

What I have found out explains it to me but is still not proved...

Dates back to when men had more than one mate...Apparently it was better for the men if the cycle was the same because it meant that the woman were fertile at the same time.

Still it made a bloody good read.

I think this is the correct link to a couple of the sites I looked at about it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McClintock_effect -

www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2429/does-mens

I would think if someone is very close they would form a bond, that the reason why we call it a bond ship.

I don,t think the girls will like that one "Ban"

The science seems sound, perhaps we should test it?
LOL.
Sara..other Bonds "the Death Bond"
in my experience relatives and even the victim often know death is lurking or has struck.
In WW2 a relative was in a barn in France just after the war had ended. His colleague was cleaning a rifle but had not checked the barrel.
The gun went off killing his freind accidentally.
He was sent to England to tell his friends mother but she already knew and said she had seen him die in that Barn in a dream.
I have no reason to doubt its authenticty, he was an MD of a large company when he died forty years later.

well I feel that alot of the replies to me are more Empathy than bonding, and i also do believe we have people whom come into our lives as stepping stones for that point and time in our lives. Whether or not if you stay together. I mean we live life forward yet, understand it backwards if that makes any sense to you.

We love and lose all the time yet, hopefully there is something that comes out of being within a bond with that person for x-amount of time, or even a lifetime.

But Bonds can be so many things to many different people. so I feel it is whom it is involving as to if it is Empathy or Bonding.

I do believe in bonds and that some are destined and some are preordained from past life experiences.