I was reading in this book about vampire folklore,and it said the best day to kill a vampire is saturday and also the 7th son of a family of the same sex of children would become a vampire they had some strange indeeds around then have you heard of these or other folklore like this if so please add.
I heared about the 7th son of a 7th son and that you become a vampire if the dead body gets reflected by a mirror.
Well there is tons of folklore within the vampire commuity, some of which are funny they should not be there, like how a blessed cross will kill a vampire. I mean really come on, there is no such thing a imortality by the living, the only way to gain imortality is by nortoriaity.
I coulpe more for you a way to keep a vampire away from your house put a fish net outside the vampire must count the knots,also if you have two sets of twins one set boys the other girls and they were born on saturday and wear there under pants inside out that will keep vampires away.
There are seveal ways to become a vampie, as wel as destroy one one keep one at bay. It al depends upon the dominant culture where that legend comes from. The cross, for instance, is mainly a Christian belief.
erm......I believe there are already posts concerning this :P but the fact you came up with the idea for this post I give kudos for..and another way they say is to steal a vampires left sock fill it with their grave soil and throw it is a salty lake....LOL
one of the pretty common ones was that suicide victems became vampires, there were also folklore about mothers who died in child birth coming back, or if a cat jumped over your casket you would rise from the grave.
Burying a vampire's body upside down at a crossroads was supposed to keep it from being able to rise.
Spilling seed or grain was supposed to keep vampires at bay because they were compelled to count every grain or every seed...same with un tieing knots...
they used to say a vampire could not cross running water...
umm....if I remember more I'll come back :)
Well I heard that a vampire ouldn't cross over the threshold of your house without being invited, pretty common but there you have it
vampires wear socks? lol
they don't count the knots, they untie them. Vampires are supposed to have Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.
One of the funniest things I heard regarding folklore is a way to become a vampire: cat jumping over corpse.
Personally I think that's a bunch of bull. Those have absolutly off on the whole vampire thing. To me those idiots have no clue whatsoever about vampire and just decided to make up a bunch of lies about them because they truely have no idea about them.
The Seventh Son of the Seventh Son will be BORN a vampire. All the children before hand must be male as well. Seven brothers. The youngest will have seven more sons, and the seventh one will be a vampire at birth. That's the folklore of it, but I heard a scientific reason. Inbreeding with female cousins (there are no sisters) would lead to a vampiric type disease where the child grows fangs very early on, and they don't have skin pigment, and they can't go into sunlight.
-posts to above- Be nice Stephy... They are just taking geusses and having fun with what they think.. Remember what Mrs.Tardiff says... There is always a grain of truth in every myth lol... ^^ I think it's fascinating to read but a bit unpractical to actually really be true.
Gah... to shadowbehindthemoon @_@ Do not want to confuse anyone..
if a person dies of a cruel and violent death,they cross over,but there are so many ways to become one,it is to long to list!!
7th son of a 7th son.........thats funny.
there is a lot crazy stuff out there based on old folklore.
I don't think people should believe every thing they read and thats all I'll say about that.
i think vamp folklore is a fun read, always interesting even if not true
it's hard to think anything of these folks are true, but it's definitely curious and interesting to read.
I believe that vampire folklore is just the expression of people`s fear of the unknown...mutations, strange handicaps...the simple people created the legends...and the priests perpetuated them!
I'm definitly picking up that book now. I have heard of these and the whole cross thing too, but personally, I think that the cross thing is simply a belief.
What I find fascinating about vampire folklore is the differant physical/magical aspects different regions assign the the vampire. For instance in one vampire myth the vampire only has one nostril, in another they often have an animal-like appendage in place of a finger (mulo), some are short others tall, some made strange noises and was said to move objects like a poltergeist (obur) while others had the power to control the weather and move through the earth and stone (drauger).
some of the things people come up with to try to expain the paranormal lol especially the nots of a fishermans net they used to tie ropes in knots and toss them into caskets to keep the corpse from rising
I have a few books on Vampire folklore most of the main ones have already been mentioned but I don't think I saw one about becoming a vampire after death if you are practicing sorcery or Witchcraft, eating a sheep killed by a wolf, are a prostitute, murder, or treacherous barmaid. for a priest saying mass while in a state of mortal sin will do it also as will death without baptism. there are many more these came from the book 'The Vampire Encyclopedia' by Matthew Bunson
The one about having red hair would explain a lot. My youngest is a red-head and she has her own natural fangs.
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One year, for Christmas, a friend of mine got me theis book The Vampire Encyclopedia. It's got a lot of interesting things concernig vampire folklore and legends. anyway.. here are some of the ways mentoned as a cause for vampireism in the book. Oh, sorry if I may repeat some that were already mentiond.
Predispositions
Birth:
- Born at certain times of the year (new moon, holy days)
- Born with a red caul, with teeth, or with an extra nipple
- Born with excess hair, with a red birthmark, or with two hearts
- Conceived on a holy day
- Weaned too early
- Suckled after weaning
- Born the seventh son of a seventh son
- Death without baptism
- Recieved a curse
- Mother did not eat enough salt during pregnancy
- Mother was stared at by a vampire while pregnant
Actions in Life Leading to Vampiric Transformation
- Committing suicide
- Practicing sorcery or witchcraft
- Eating sheep killed by a wolf
- Leading an immoral life, i.e., prostitutes, murderers, and trecherous barmaids
- Saying a mass while in a state of mortal sin (for priests)
- Being a werewolf
Death or After-Death Causes
- Death at the hands of a vampire
- Wind from the Russian Steppe blowing on a corpse
- Having a cat or other animal jump or fly over the corpse
- Having a shadow fall on the corpse
- No burial or improper burial rites
- Death by violence or murder
- Murder that is unrevenged
- Having a candle passed over the corpse
- Having one's brother sleepwalk
- Death by drowning
- Stealing the ropes used to bury a corpse
- Being buried face up in the grave (in parts of Romania)
I think the key word here is folklore. Some interesting comments that came from this thread.
I am not 100% sure where i might have seen, could have been a movie or television show or even been in a book, but they were battling vampires and one of the techniques they used when a vampire got too close was to drive a nail into the floor where their shadow was and it would pierce their skin and they would flea to get away. hmmmm (sounds like they went out on a limb on that one.)
Folklore stories are just that stories.
I did not know about the Red Hair one..lol.
That explains a lot
I have always found the idea that a cross or holy water could hurt a vampire some what hilarious... what the hell did people do before Christianity came along?
vampire fokelore is put into perspective by the white-wolf take on things i suggest you look into it
In the Philippines they believe in Aswang (creatures that feed on the blood of children). Their descriptions vary slightly form province to province... but they all are night hunters that change back to human form by day.
One way to kill them is to keep them from changing back before daylight.
to embelish on what lonleyblue posted about vampires and knots.... not only are they fixated with knots but people of old would commonly throw fish nets on corpses upon burial and at night would hang them upon their doors and windows. This was because it was widely believed that vampires were obsessed with untying knots and would untie every single one before arising out of their grave. By that time it would be morning. I love vampire lore. :o)
LOL Such wonderful ideas mortals have!
Just a note to add my 2 cents...
In regards to the whole cross thing... it derived from a much older belief in the power of the Gods' protection during ancient days , and it's ability to ward off spirits... the main difference is that the Christians eventually just assumed the cross was strong enough by itself... which of course it is not. It is the strength in BELIEF that repels a vampire... though obviously it doesnt hold :)
I enjoy vampire folklore it gives one food for thought . Queen of the damed is one movie based on folklore that makes you think
I was told that if you rise a passed person that yourself and the rised become a vampire. I heard of count the knots and seeds but not the 7th son thing.
They are called FOLKLORE~ for a reason ~ I would not put alot into what you read on it~~
I think VAmpire folklore is very interesting indeed. Maybe a little bit hard to be believable, but interesting nonetheless. I've heard of most of the folklore before, the one that is the funniest to me is about the socks.... I didn't know that vampires even wore socks :P lol.
A lot of these I've never heard of. I have only been studying vampires for a few months. Any good books to begin with?
Although many of the vampire lore is faulty and many have been found to be rediculous, it's interesting to see what kinds of things scared and weirded out our ancestors, suich as witchcraft, ghosts and other supernatural things, vampires were always a cause for fear.
What people thought of as "weird" would usually be added to the lore, such as the OCD thing (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder). What they couldn't quite explain, would be lumped in with supernatural beings and therefore transformed into folklore.
It's a shame how many people were killed for such stupid beliefs.
I have never heard of any of this. I dont think people should kill vamps anyways. They dont hurt anything.
Ouch, the 7th son of the 7th son 'being 'born a vampire. That would make breast feeding a little painful. Sorry, I just couldn't resist, as I've never heard that one before.
I think I learned from Fox Mulder on the X-files that vampires are supposed to be obsessive compulsive.
many babys "born" as a vampire were due to the mother having syphillis. It causes fancs to form and sensitivity to light in some cases, let alone dementia...
shadowbehindthemoon -- where do you think that the ideas that developed into "modern vampires" came from? Every society had some sort of vampire myth and that is what Bram Stoker looked into when he wrote the book. He combined many of the myths. And there were reasons behind those myths. The Cross and the lack of reflection in a mirror were due to the lack of a soul by the undead. garlic repulsed vampires due to like opposing like; stinky herbs sending off the stinky vampire. Even Dracula could go out in the light, it was the movie Nasforatu, in an attempt to avoid being sued for copyright infringement, that made the vampire not able to go out in the light.
Since vampires are myth, you can make anything you want about them and claim that it is the truth behind them.
Vampire Folklore is very interesting and it varies from country to country, LIke in Greece a Vrykolakas is
A vampire-like creature. It is an animated corpse that can leave its grave on any day except Saturday. It can be killed by fire or by a stroke of lightning.
I've also heard that one will become a vampire if they died during the plague... but then again that one came from like 200 years ago or something....(like many of these myths) Also if you died during the famine...
I've heard that you also become a Vampire if a dog jumps over your grave while your coffen is being lower'd into the grave

Hard to believe? What, like the dead rising from thier graves to drink the blood of the living? Yes, quite unbelievable. Too bad if it weren't for those stories, none of us would be here right now.
hmm the saterday thing seems rediculas... and i believe that vampires are created by either being bitten or born by other vampires.
There are more accepted ways of becoming a Vamp than there are people to talk about them... but they are all very intesting...
unrelated but it is believed that most mistaken vampire sighting where attributed to humans who had contracted rabies and not seeked medical assistance
Some of these i have heard and some are new i just find them all interesting and quite funny.
Especially wearing your underware inside out. That is just crazy.
Its always the 7th son/daughter of the 7th son/daughter, Gypsy folklore is the same, the same one is surposed to posses the true power of inner and outer sight!!
Great list Imagesinwords...
I actually believe in the "redhead" one...redheads are evil little bastards from the day they're born...especially filthy little redhead children :)
I have heard of folklore of if you drop a casket the person inside would become a vampire, or inproper berial, things such as that also make people vampires in lore...
Felix...I resent that remark...LOL...I was born a little red headed child. And I was adorable too...*thinks to myself* "too bad I turned evil somewhere along the way" *giggle*
yes i heard a few on another forum post and found it interesting as well as amusing...aparently people used to believe that you could kill a vampire by stealing his/her sock and filling it with peanuts.......?
clairvoyance is a gift of the seventh sun
saturday is the 7th day of the week
there are 14 rings around saturn of which saturday is named for
there are 18 moons around saturn
The signifigance of the number 14 is for fortnight, one of the healing aspects for vampires or 14 days
Folklore, or old wives tales hold more truth than you could ever possibly imagine. You all think I am ridiculous, but very little is a misnomer, wordsmithing for each language has relevence based upon revelations only the clairovoyant can see.
If we could only understand old wives tales, and not think of them as silly, then we would have the wisdom to accept or reject knowledge. There is much truth in symbolism of tales. The symbols represent a hidden idea, yet the truth of it when it becomes known to you, the applicative value of the superstition to what you have learned about reality increases. There is a transfer of truth in the initial lie of the folklore, and when a clairvoyant understands the true meaning of the symbolism he/she can discuss "their" truth of reality no one sees, by discussing such topics as blood or whatever, and even though the clairvoyant has a different definition from the folklore, the metaphor holds true, because the folklore is based on a hidden reality. When that hidden reality becomes known, the symbolism of the lore revealed.
There is more to words than meets the eye.
I think my favorite might be the thing about the sock. Maybe that's why I always seem to be just losing ONE of my socks all the time....
I have read alot of vampire folklore and have seen that. I think the seventh son of the seventh son may have some truth to it.
OK, i agree with some of you, the folklore is kinda interesting but extremely dumb at times.
First off, someone read my mid. I just came here to post this exact thread. buggers...
OK, I hate reading vampiric fiction that uses some of these stories. Crossing the threshhold, running water, the knots, the seeds, being buried in native soil, these are some of the dumbest things. BUt chances are you will not find a book without the key ones: crosses, garlic, sunlight, and silver (does anyone know the story behind that one?)
One interesting thing i've found is that in the Anita Blake:vampire hunter series, the crosses only work if theirs belief behind them. In one book ( i think it was Circus of the Damned) one guy actually drove off a vampire with a little charm of the Torah. I guess it would have been the same principal of using a bible.
I must say though, I've heard most of the causes, the the 7th son of the 7th son of a twice removed aunts sister in laws brothers neices grandfather thing is new to me. (i'm sorry, i had to go off a little there. Too much oppertunity to waste with that one! lol)
The silver thing started initially with the cross thing. They believed that you could kill a vampire by breaking up a silver coin with a cross on it and firing it from a gun. Then it became a silver bullet with a cross engraved on it and then just a silver bullet itself. Eventually it just became anything silver. You would think with gold always being associated with the sun that they would have chosen it instead, but I guess most people back then couldn't afford it so they went with silver.
I have not heard that suicide victims come back as vampires, but then again, I am new to thsi stuff. Shows what I know.
a stake through the heart isnt the best way to kill anyone...
lol
i mean, yea it would kill us if we dont get treatment...but, anyone, even human, would have enough tiem to get up and shoot the staker or stab him or w/e...
lol
and as to werewolves, im not sure that they are really allergic to silver...i mean, vampires arent really alergic to sun...it hurts our eyes, but other than that...we dont like turn to dust...lol
and garlic...hmm, i dont like it much, the taste is gross! lol
however i do like it just a hint on my french bread or w/ my bread for spaghetti.
Hello.. I am very new here, and have been learning my way around before inserting my foot into my mouth. However, I thought I would comment on this, and add my 2 cents.
One of my favorite books is by Montegue Summers, most have probably read it. His book "The Vampire in Lore and Legend" is quite insightful, though to short in my opinion.
He breaks down the legends by countries and geographical location.
My favorite so far, would be the Vourkolakas of Modern Greece. (Please note this book has a first copyright of 1880 through 1948). The Vourkolakas were considered beyond ravenous as compared to other legends of that time. The Vourkolakas would appear as flesh or spectre. Food was their most urgent demand, in the form of robbing eggs, poultry and cattle, of which they gained very little nourishment, similiar to the Assyrian vampire. Eventualy, all Vourkolakas turn to human prey, general thier closest living relative. Should the Vourkolakas take spectre form, the victim would lose their spiritual energy, most suffering a painful death. They believe also, that the vourkolakas could impregnate a female victim, however the female Vourkolakas was incapable of bearing offspring.
As documented then by Sir Rennell Rodd, It was believed th Vourkolakas were created one of two ways, birth by a living female, or excommunication from the church. Staking was not an option. A preist was required to perform a rite of absolution (called the Nomocanon cap. lxxxii) over the creature (or grave.. some of the book is in latin), which generaly turned to a pale a grey ash.
Other Vampaire species of note: Wurwolakas (Albanian), Mormo, Katakhanas, Empusa, and Lamia.. a few of my favorites.
A side note: "The word vrykolakas was occasionaly applied to living persons in the sense of the werewolf" - but thats a different post.
I never got how that myth about vampires having to count things got started. Was it just totally made up so some family's kids could sleep better or does it have a historical/ mythical background?
I was told that someone created a cure for aids but the cure ended up giving vampire features instead which pretty much got rid of the aids anyway becuase vampires can't be affected by common diseases like that...but i don't know the ingrediants for it
yes ive heard a few of those and also that vampires were allergic to silver and that in order to truely kill them ya had to burn them to ashes n scatter to dust over the water because vampires cant cross water
As much as I find these posts interesting, amuzing and often fustrating I will offer this.
Read. Go the library or book store and educate yourselves. It's fine to ask questions, but often it seems the majority of these dicussions are the blind leading the blind. We are members of what many consider to be THE Vampire community and clearing house for Vampire info, etc. It would be nice if our members took the time to be informed on the basics.
Some of the posts in this thread offer VERY good sources for info. Use them.
OK. Sorry I just had to vent. Good topic, just beat to death that's all.
Staking isn't a way to kill vampires originally. The way to do it originally, or one of the ways, was to stake a vampire, which would hold them to theground, then cut the vamps head off and bury it under a oak tree over a hundred years old and then burn the body. They just started to use the staking part to shorten things...
well i do not know how to kill a vampire for sure exceot sunlight as far as becoming a vampire who knows i once read somewhere taht a transfusion through fingertips can make you a half vampire but who knows i also heard if you commit suicide you can become cursed and your soul is doomed to roam forever and you seek blood to survive because all yours is gone now ovisouly you have to drain all your blood back in the old days when you wanted to become a vampire you could acquire a bite or drain all your blood. of course the ones who drained their blood died duh
I heard that Vampires supposedly can't cross bodies of water, and hate garlic.
darkvampiricangel,
sunlight was never a factor in killing a vampire as far as I know in mythology. Even in Dracula (the book) he could go out during the day. His powers weren't as strong as they were at night, but the sun didn't kill him. I think what changed that was the movie Nasforatu, where the movie makers were about to get sued by the estate of Bram Stoker, so they changed it and had him die by sunlight a the end in order to avoid getting sued.
I heared that if an animal walks or flies over the grave the body will become a vampire. so the people lock up all their pets the night before the burial.
No reflection on mirrors...
Cant cross water...
Silver is deadly...
Cant stand garlic...
The one about not being able to enter unless invited is a true one.
I noticed this when I was a young single female and innocently invited a male neighbor or two in because we were talking outside and I was bored. Harmless they were but hell getting rid of. I started to think about the not being invited in bit and knew exactly where it came from! Good advice from the grandmothers without having to offend the males in the house! LOL!
Tego - I couldn't agree more. The best way to learn about original myths regarding vampires is to read about it...or I suppose you could try to Google it...as long as you realize how easy it is to find garbage on the internet.
It's interesting to see the evolution of modern folklore as movies about vampires make their way into our daily dialogue. I've seen references to 'folklore' in these threads that appear to be based as recently as the plot for UltraViolet (in addition to the more widely used references to the mythology of Underworld, Interview, and Dracula 2000). It would appear that advances like the internet can also fuel the speed of rumour and the evolution of myth.