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I was just watching some ghosts videos and I though what if what we think are spirits or ghosts are actually projections of people from an alternate universe? Do you think it is possible?




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I think that if you believe in an alternate or parallel universe then yes it stands to reason that it could be very possible since the universe is infinite and at far enough of a distance it is bound to repeat its self.



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Yeah that could be true I guess but would it be us that we are seeing or someone else



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Some of the new age writings describe this phenomenon. It is the concept that there are infinite universes that run parallel to this one. Time folds in on itself and is not linear. Rather, all events and lifetimes fold in on one another and are simultaneous rather than historical or future.

I've even read about a concept that for every decision we make in this universe, an alternate self makes the opposite choice in order to explore all possibilities of the self.

Some of it is pretty fantastic, and I must admit that we are usually so locked in the grasp of the immediate and physical that we often don't give a second thought to concepts such as these.

Not all things are true, but anything is possible.



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Well, by some beliefs, they are existing in a separate plane of existance, usually referred to as the Ethereal plane. When we see them, they are manifesting in our plane, but quickly able phase back.

For your discussion, I am thinking that we are to imagine that the ghosts actually are living a full life on a different plane, and living very much as we do, but they are somehow being transferred to our plane to where we can see them.

It's an interesting thought, but I think that it is very unlikely.



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I never really hough of it that way. It could happen, but then why are some of them so angry and go after you if you are ghost hunting?



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Trying to understand the angry behavior of ghosts is like trying to understand by gangs are so violent.

It is becasue there is an underlying issue with the being or that they are just inherently angry beings?



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Thedog, most ghost or souls are not angry as I know of, it is more if the died a very angry death, or lead a bad and angry life. From what I've seen and heard most ghost are just trouble makers, not going to harm you.
But some are powerful, and can hurt you, like flinging things at you pushing you down. Maybe on some short of way they are from another plane, that we call the after life.



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I believe that many spirits cannot find the light. I do believe in other universes. I do believe that spirits or ghost can come back to warn one of danger or be with a loved one. There is just more then one universe.



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that's a really good thought ---- but wouldn't they still be ghosts ,, seeing their not solid ?



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A different perspective and a very interesting one, to, and it follows that, Time being Circular, all things stemming from the Ether, that such phenomena could even involve visitors from the as yet unknown Future...;)

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I have thought of it this way and never knew anyone else would think the same.... heh. But I will say from my beliefs anything is possible. I believe there is another universe as ours is never ending. They may be ghosts that can't find the light or may have come from an alternate time line to warn. Who knows if there ghosts at all? I am very opened minded on a lot things.



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that is a great thought, people from a parrellel universe, i is a good posibility,that would explain how they just vanish with no trace.



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I do believe it is possible. It may be that the projections can come from another time or dimension. Or, perhaps they can be imprints, or memories permanently etched into objects.



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I am a strong believer that we do have alternate / paralle planes that are there so I believe it is very possible I mean we are always wondering what space and time are occupied and where, how, when... so to me there is always room for the unbelievable.

I just know we are not alone here in this big vast of a universe and space... just makes more sense that there are many others and many different planes to the whole time and space we have...



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Although for many things there is no actual hard evidence, proof, it would extremely arrogant to assume that we are the 'only ones', or that this world or plane is, as Creation & experience MUST be vaster, than our 'little corner' of it, mustn't it?

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Ahhh, well said Silentrunning, I agree with you on that. I mean the UNIVERSE.... Is a big place LOL and I feel at times I am running into myself on certain things LOl so yep I truely believe it is possible..



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Perhaps the biggest joke of all, in one sense is, that whilst being alive, we 'live on trust' of the existence/possibility of certain things, and poor devils that we all are, will probably only 'know the Truth' when we are dead, and inhabiting 'the other side', until, for those of us who believe in reincarnation, we have to drag our sorry selves back here onto the Earthly, and do it all over again...;)

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there were episodes of doctor who and sliders and outer limits that touched on this subject and i would say it is definately not beyond the realm of possability



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its quite presumptuous to assume that other universes would be parallel to our own as if they exist then most other universes would likely be too hostile for there to be life at all.



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I think it's highly possible and plausable. The way in which the universe works is both complecated but also subtly simple. It re-creates itself every few dimensions and is fully intertwined with each aspect of itself.

I truly think that many things we perceive as ghosts, past lives and even aliens are nothing more than a "feed-back loop" ,if you get my meaning, and/or inter-dimensional communications.



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I think it could be possible. honestly, but what if we could see the projection of the people? or so to speak.... or something? that would make me think again..



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I think it is possible but if they were from another reality why do you only appear in a noncaporial form



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Three of the ghost I know come from engineer universities. But Time travelers are very real. Perhaps some would be sightings are People from the future or better yet from a projected alternative reality.

Yet a good ghost that appears on cue is most likely made by university students.



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it's an intresting consept, but first you would have to prove the alternate universe..



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That alternative universe can and has been exsisting for some time, it is a universe where people skilled in subtle craft of entertainment and astonishment ply there trade to add phenomena to the lives of people to enhance the attraction to town that slipped off the maps. every town should have a haunted bed and breakfast, or a mystery spot. That universe is real to me and those that occupy it. Poltergeist exist in a universe that exist when others are slightly distracted. Time is suspended in that universe five split seconds in your universe is two minutes in a "geist" universe. with that time they can create disturbances and even a token follow up distraction to allow other geist a performance.



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i think for this to be possible, there would have to be empirical evidence as to the "existence" of an alternate Universe/plane...and then empirical "proof" that the spirit was from "there", and not from "here".

it sounds way too "complex" to be proven, to me.



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_Wow...interesting topic. I've been thinking about this, reading over what people have said, and the way I see it is...since people mentioned Parallel universes, what if the people we see and percieve as ghosts were really people in the alternate universes having "out of body" experiences? It goes to say that it is very possible for this to happen...but what if that was the case? Also, I believe it was, Shadowdraven who said to prove it? There really would be no way to prove that there is a parellel universe unless someone actually went there. There's a series by Tanith Lee that really touches on this subject. The Black Unicorn, The Gold Unicorn, and The Red Unicorn all cover this. The Black Unicorn is about the main character of the series, Jade, who finds the bones of a unicorn out in the desert, so she puts it together and the unicorn comes to life. She follows it, and has to open a gate to this world that is perfect, untouched by humans. In the Gold Unicorn, her sister makes a Golden Unicorn to scare people into submission. Under it is the gateway to pretty much hell. And in The Red Unicorn she goes to a parellel universe. Jade, in her universe, has the power to heal and her sister is the princess of some kingdom, whereas Jade in the parallel universe is the Princess and only destroys things. I believe it was Shadowdraven who said something about proving it, and really, unless you somehow manage to go there yourself, there is no way to prove it, but that doesn't mean it isn't there. And I think someone said something about not being able to see the "truth" until you die unless you believe in reincarnation then you have to come back here...what if instead of coming back here, you went there. That'd be cool! I think it would be cool. Anywho...I'm rambling now...lol._



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And the unicorns connect the universes, the common denominator, but since here in our universe the unicorn became extinct we suffered the isolation, only wizards before our time who had access to the unicorn entered the streams between the universes and the linger there until we enter the stream as well, possible only in advanced dream states. Existing in two realms at once dreaming in a dream to go through a portal to another.



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there has to be more dimensions on this plane of existance, and that which resides in higher dimensions can see and are somewhat effected by everthing in the lower dimensions. like how 2-d things cant see 3-d things until the 3-d thing tries to effect the 2-d thing. like pressing onto the drawing hard enough to rip it.



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I think it is possilbe also...could explain the deja vu phenomenon.



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Molly has what it takes to be a quantum physicist... And you throw a wicked party. what ever dimension you choose i will be found there in your Tub.



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what if there wer terrorists from the future, and we are all aready dead



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as a time traveler I assure you that terrorist are not that advanced... now there are those that would anchor actions to the future but the counter forces exist in numbers greater, rift rippers (sliders) are rare but they are very active.



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i was being satyric to point out the lack of common sense that this question has



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right and I was expanding on a tangent aside from the fact that most ghost are crafty people, that are skilled on so many dimensions that they continue to mystify on more levels then we know. Even after people are shown a rigged house they are heard to ask "So the ghost activate the mechanisms?" Well it defys explaination, on so many dimensions.



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the entity would have to be able to effectively communicate with you as well, which is a phenom that is so rare in hauntings and whatnot. seems like this "phenomenon" would be nigh near impossible to "prove".


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Yea the audio is over rated I am not sure how EVP is created but I am sure some of the greater spooks found an interest in some technology. chimes and scent are usually employed to enhance an encounter.



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Woah, what a second... I thought it was generally agreed that ghosts are a spiritual manifestation of a deceased person from Earth.

Maybe what you're referring to is a mirage perhaps, or maybe deja vu? That I can postulate across multi-dimensions, but not ghosts.



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or a skillfully created effect pulled off by a secret society.



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would any body be interested in learning how to "haunt" there house with simple effects? See I once was an apprentice to a cabinet maker who after finding out i was an FX Hobbyist Taught me some tricks of the trade and share with me some of the history of The Rusty Nail Society.



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I think ghost can travel through portals in between parallel universes, but there are no portals to alternate universes that I know of, many one day we'll discover them...



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There is a portal between imagination and craft. that ghost can come through. If we are entertained by such crafted ghost we may become finer tuned to the presence that lingers. To feel a ghost is possible one could descibe it as feeling a memory solidify in us as we perhaps read journals of those that have died that is one dimension of feeling, and recalling them, then when that is enriched with items from those that died we increase our recollection that much more.



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That is really neat, but what about when it's our passed relatives that show up? So many people see their relatives manifested, or people from centuries past show up, wearing the period clothes. What then, time travel?



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I have heard this theory before. And yes, I think it possible. In some ways it makes more sense than the theory of a ghost being the lingering spirit of a deceased person.



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yah its a possibility, but yet again why would we call them ghosts ?



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_We call them ghosts because to us, that's what they appear as, apparitions of people. This is all speculation, you could say, as to what they could really be if they weren't solely spirits of the dead._



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I don't believe so. Ghosts are, to me, the the left over image or soul of someone who has died.



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i dont think its possable



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or a well crafted image projected, made by using pictures available, stock or modified. So a ghost can appear in any thing you think the person that you will"show" the apparition to. Spook apparitions are usually more creative then personal apparitions.

The various effects to project apparitions veries between specter and appatirion a spector seldom glows and can be created in a lighted environment. Apparitions are best cast on dark moonless nights.



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everything u see on tv or read about must be true because it is impossible to distort something with the lack of technology in today's world... lol



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That is why I avoid TV like a venerial dieses. I create entertainment that makes people question what they saw I manipulate dimensions with craft... actual craft.



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Perhaps not so much an alternative universe as a alternate reality, where the ghosts are still alive and going about their affaris.



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Could be, but many ghost seem very similar to our people of our world... but who knows how alike beings from another place could be or not be.

Steven Hawking once said that black holes only exist in certain parallel universes as they could not appear in all of them because matter and energy can never truly be destroyed which is what he claimed a black hole could do.



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I have actually read articles about this... that sometimes your seeing like a memory that the house holds of the spirits of those that have lived there before and they are not actually ghosts. It is a fascinating theory.



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I think you would really have to expand on your imagination to realise this. Well, yup it is good to think out of the box sometimes too :)



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I like making the box levitate and appear out of "thin air" I also like to move the box around when nobody is paying attention... but dropping a box in an empty room is also entertaining.



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It could be from another lifetime, you never know because its hard to tell



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Ghost are limited to three dimensions, yet they are limited further by stereotypical expectations of those that would be entertained by them.



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This is one of those rhetorical questions.
The kind that, as of yet, really has no answer that can be grounded in pure fact.

It's all a matter of what you believe in.



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or the dimensions of possibility that exist within the creative imagination.



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How about were energy and made from things in this reality, when we die we judge ourselves and change that energy to a positive or negative to keep it simple. This keys us into the next reality or dimension. Quirks or abnormal conditions help cause leaks ie ghost



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I believe in alternate universes.
Though I do not believe that ghost are projections from them.
I think that you can manifest yourself in alternate universes, but you would show up as normal not as an ethreal figure.



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Yeah. This is one of my favorite topics, when it leads to speaking about other dimensions, parallel universes, and alternative realities.

Technically..OUR UNIVERSE IS A HOLOGRAM..and we are projections..In fact everything we see is a projection..Humans cannot see things in all angles..Nor in all dimensions...It's true that a 3D creature such as humans, would not have a concept or be able to see things as they truly are in a higher dimensions..

I always connected so well with Einstein's quotes, because he seemed to be the few to somehow understand or make sense of my strange experriences..When I was newer to this life, aka younger, I always felt comfort in his quotes..He understood things about time..He realized that everything that happened here already has..The past, present, and future are ONE. I do remember things from other worlds, dimensions and times..but things that, with a human brain, the brain can't encode the information, and transfer it over properly..

I guess alternate universe, isn't always a parallel universe, though a parallel universe is an alternative universe...Anyways...I think that there are many types of (ghosts, and not all are the same thing, and not all the same source so the same explanations can't always apply)....but..Yes..I believe many things, and not ONE are happening...

Maybe in some cases..it's someone related to you in the future, or even your future self trying to contact you..maybe it's like the new AIM messenger, except you get to send messages to the past..maybe it's a secret laboratory hologram experiment on earth in a secret lab? Maybe it's beings from a higher dimensions, trying to talk to you..and they are capable of interacting by allowing you to see "ghosts" or even those so called demonic ghosts taht mimick other humans...
Maybe, it's just a random person that's out of their body in the astral world, and they are fucking with you? Maybe..Just maybe...It's the energy of someone who died, and they exist sporadically fading in and out..kind of like a prisoner stuck between reality..trying desperately to exist...Maybe it's just a glitch in reality, and maybe not everyone has a soul, meaning not everyone comes from other dimensions..maybe the ones that are only human, try desperately to be something more, and since they have no gateway or connection to higher dimensions, their energy release gets lost in time, creating mirages, and fading in and out...maybe it's stuck reliving the same event over and over again...Have you ever read about Schrödinger's cat? That's just the tip of the ice berg...All I'm saying is..I don't think that one truth can apply for every ghostly phenomenon..and I think that it varies..Things in this reality seem to be more stable than other realities..but how stable really is everthing in all reality?

I wrote a lot about these things in other threads...and that's why I just made it simple and copied what I wrote on forums and put all my responses in a journal.

If you guys are into this kind of stuff, then you should really read my myspace blogs on my FM2030.
I have so many neat videos and random things I put together, or random things I write that cover some of this :) Some of it's top secret ;) plus just random videos that Axel and I made out of boredum. LOL.

In fact one of the missing links to solving certain equations about the universe, have to come from a higher dimension :) One of the coolest living physicists today and futurist, is Michio Kaku. He is def. on my wavelength, now he has some perfect fitting videos that I wish I could have made.

P.S CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO...From a guy who meets himself in the future..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qBUv4j3DINE

P.S. if you're bored go read my myspace blogs! After you read my journal on here :P

http://home.myspace.com/fm2030



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I actually saw a movie a couple of years ago that had this same idea. Wish I could remember the name.
It was interesting. The ghost never new they were dead and living in a parallell universe



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I have read that in a few cases where people have thought they have seen a ghost but have only seen them from like the knees up or something like that are actually seeing into a parallel dimension. We only end up seeing the top half of them because sometimes the dimensions overlap a bit only letting you catch glimpses of the person or people from base line up.



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maybe the ghosts are of past revisions of life some sort of essence we cant see on our plain of existence and have been there before at times thats why they feel comfortable in a setting like a home and not knowing, they do what they feel is natural to them.



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So if we are but a screen in a continum one that light is cast upon then are ghost beyond the screen we are limited to viewing. what causes the image to bleed into the other side of the screen?



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You rock too dabbler! I love all of your responses soo much..They are so intersting on this topic! :) yay!

As far as the images bleeding over to other dimensions..I guess evertyhing that exists is connected in some way..Due to the fact that there is no getting (outside) of existence as a whole. Like the whole multiverse, or the whole of everything that exists as one. Some connections are probally made intentionally tapping in, and others may be accident, or some other phenomenon that happens sporadically just because....
haha.

Strange enough..it reminds me of a spahn ranch song! haha. A song called locusts..and I don't know for sure if he's talking about the same thing that it makes me think about (other dimensions) but...songs surely can have more than one meaning..Here are the lyrics...
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Spahn Ranch Locust's Lyrics:

I could see the other end
Repeat as necessary
A beam shown divided
Shaded over screens
In the presence of visuals
Covered and drawn in
Watched its repetition siphoning

In the corners
Locusts rotating
Empty me feeding

Conceived the believing
As parted or programmed
Plans of obsolescence
Inhale again
Do you see its face?
Or the master's orders
They consumed the maker over again

In the corners
Locusts rotating
Empty me feeding



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Modest Mouse - The Stars Are Projectors ringtone
In the last second of life, they're gonna show you how
How they run this show, sure, run it into the ground
The stars are projectors, yeah
Projectin' our lives down to this planet Earth
The stars are projectors, yeah
Projectin' our minds down to this planet Earth
Everyone wants a double feature
They wanna be their own damn teacher, and how
All the stars are projectors, yeah
Projectin' our lives down to this planet Earth
It's all about moderate climates
You gotta be cold and be hot for sure
It's all about the moderate climates
You wanna be blessed and be cursed for sure
All the stars are projectors, yeah
Projectin' our lives down to this planet Earth [x2]
Everyone wants a double feature
They want to be in their own damn teacher, and how
All the stars are projectors, yeah
Projectin' our lives down to this planet Earth
You've got the harder part, You've got the kinder heart
And it's true
I've got the easy part, I've got the harder heart
Aint this true
Right wing, left wing, chicken wing
It's built on findin' the easier ways through
God is a woman and the woman is
An animal that animals man, and that's you
Was there a need for creation?
That was hiden in a math equation
And that's this:
WHERE DO CIRCLES BEGIN?



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By the way...I like a lot of the posts I'm reading on this thread..and a lot of ther responses...It's surely one of the best threads on here, the way it all came together is really good. :)

Maybe we are also another creatures dreams...maybe this whole holographic universe is just some othe creatures dream..or maybe a combination of many creatures dreams :) well..technically it is..technically everything in this world comes from someones mind..and maybe our imaginations are linked to some master manipulaters bank of choices and inspirations..i mean..maybe the imagination we think is our own, and we pull it through to the physical, claiming it as our own original ideas..which are technically replications or copies of perhaps an original design..but things are distorted and not quite seen the way they truly are...and human perception is limited but not completely obsolete...just different and limited.



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I most certainly believe that it is possible for what we believe to ghosts are really projections from another world/dimension. This is idea has been explored many times in fictions such as Steven King's "The Mist" and "Dark Tower Series", where creatures and people "crossed over".



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It's a good theory, and certainly one as valid as any other, but it wouldn't explain those ghosts who are recognisable to the people who see them as being departed friends or loved ones.



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*sings to the tune of patsy kline (i think.. yeah that sounds about right)*

this thread was made for ranting.
and thats just what we'll do
one of these days dappler will uber piz-own you.



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The existence of alternate & parallel universes has actually been proven in physics (that's why it's called the multiverse)...& yes...often a ghost is a projection weaving in & out from this (the 3rd) & other dimensions.



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As in response to the previous question before last :)

Why wouldn't it also explain "those ghosts who are recognisable to the people who see them as being departed friends or loved ones"?

I have left my body before...and...I'm not so sure that while outside the body, that it was limited to certain dimensions or parallel worlds..While in the astral world..There are other gateways..
Speaking of deceased loved ones..They may want to come back to talk to you in whatever way or form they can..Maybe when some people die, they are on higher dimensions capable of imitating things that would let you know it was them..through other mediums or animals..Perhaps their essence itself....These beings once dead are no longer bound to the physical..perhaps not even this dimension..What happenes to people when they die, may be different for each, at least on some level. Perhaps some have (souls) and are connected to other dimensions before they had the life here on earth in their current form..People remember past lives..I have memories of other worlds..It could be many things..I have many memories that cross over into this brain..Kind of like how information from a digital camera gets uploaded and decoded and read on your computer..not everything is decoded so easily, and some things, you only get pieces of, because perhaps from other dimensions they data only comes through as only part of what it really is..making it harder to interperet or understand while as a human....Even if people didn't have souls and were only their conscious and brain..there is energy in their brain and conscious mind..probally enough to preserve itself once you had died..maybe that's why some ghosts seem to be stuck..It could be their essence and energy trying desperately to exist..Yet in certain situations they may have learned ways of communicating with their loved ones through another dimensions..I think that everything is similar and yet different for each of us..Yet we are all connected on the scheme of things anyways..Just pieces of EXISTENCE(all that exists) trying to understand itself, get lost within itself and continue to exist in new forms..Maybe beneith the veil..we don't want to remember the truths of reality..From what I remember and know..Some are very cold and dissapointing for a realization of the human world and mind. Sometimes facts are also changeable..What's true today may not be true tomorrow..or it just depends on circumstance and where and what or who you are.



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Close, actually the artist who sang the boots sond was Nancy Sinatra, and has also been redone by the great KMFDM.



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I think it is possible that you can see other dimensions sometimes like the way my mom BathoryBabe said as well as real ghosts.



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thats the main one i was thinking of and therefor why i guessed. thanks i feel better to know without feeling silly by looking it up.

back on topic.

lets hypothesize that you saw the bogeyman and that he is real and nobody in your house saw what you saw. it could be that your eye was looking for and is trained to see beyond 3D. out of the whole party one person said they saw a black blur. they ignored it as a sign of drinking too much. the blur quite possibly (its hard to prove) is the objects interferance with the witness. maybe that was a poor verb, lets go with interact. the eyes do like to ignore blatantly obvious things if in the perifferal especially if its odd and not immediately a threat, its normal. if your looking for trouble it will find you.



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qauntum physics beleives its possible to have alternate universes, but hmmm interesting concept.



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i agree that if you believe in a parallel universe, then there is a possiiblity that these ghosts are from there.

maybe that's the way the creatures in that universe behave. maybe they really glide and have blank expressions as ghosts usually do.

come to think of it, maybe in their universe we also have our own ghosts and the way it behaves seems eccentric to them.

and maybe those with have strong projections, create beings with physical attributes, not just ghosts. and maybe, if there are parallel worlds, then there are parallel humans - the ones we call doppelgangers


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It can be true or it can be false... Who knows?

If you think that there is an alternate universe then I guess it can be true and if you do not believe in an alternate universe then I guess it is false.
It all depends on what you believe in.



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maybe scientists should try discovering these things. they already knew that there are other worlds capable of providing life to humans, then mayeb they should try to know about this projection thing


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I agree that they should try to find out but some of them just stick to straight facts and they don't believe in all of the possibilities that there are in life.

For them to find out if the ghosts are people from an alternate universe, don't you think they will need to open up their minds a little?



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i think with all the differences that science and religion has, it has one thing that is almost similar to one another... they both are limited to one side of something that can be explained in different ways


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I believe I already posted about this topic in a thread semi related, refering to ghosts and how they interact with us.

It in my opinion is very possible that what we perceive as ghosts could in fact be one of 2 or 3 options

1.they are what we call them ghosts.
2.alternate universe with a faded rift in the universal barrier
or
3. an option Ive been playing around with.What if options 1 and 2 are not correct but these ghosts as we call them are in fact part of this dimension however they are from another place.Say you live in new jersey and you see one.Maybe they in fact are from the exact polar opposite area of the world from where you live and saw them.That some barrier in fact didnt rip another dimension but more like say the northern lights some strange phenomenon as say that causes a mirror effect on which we see someone in this world who lives on the other side instead.OR as I before mentioned a mirror effect what if these ghosts are in deed us, due to the emotions at the time a imprint was left and re inacts what happened that day when the same amount of energy is forced into the area.



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It would be imaginable that to avoid over population in a parrell universe they allow their spirit to fade in our ... Other wise we remove the entropy factor from the equation and entropy we could imagine to be cross parelle



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I think it might be true in some cases, definitely...But I see it as more unlikely than other reasons.



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I think that it would be quite arogant to assume there are alternate plains of existence. It's a very interesting theory and one that I don't think should be discounted as less likely than any other. Ghosts could have multiple sources.



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I am not going to say that this isn't possible, but it would be kinda stupid huh? I mean why would you take on a "dead" person when you could attract someone some other way...



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Well I believe that the logica answer to your question can only be that these projections are projecting them selfs out of the paralel universe-dimension, of the dead, since the ghosts are dead people only, and wouldnt be called ghosts otherwise.



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I tend to agree with the previous poster. It wouldn't make sense that the projection would come from the future if it's a projection of a ghost that died in your past. Wouldn't then the projection need to be projected from your past?



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Hmm, how about a conjecture of sorts...What if ghosts were actually us in a dream state? Try that one on for size.



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So do you mean that we actually dream the ghosts or that we project them while dreaming? I didn't quite understand.



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That we project ourselves during sleeptime, thus materializing as the specters society deems fit to call ghosts. Save for past life images of ourselves, of which we depict within our own dreams....Tell me you have never dreamed of actually seeing how you dress in your dream.



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Okay... well what would it mean then if I saw Napoleons ghost, would that mean that he is projecting into the future and that I am seeing a projection of the past?



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Now we're talking. I mean come now, inter dimensional travel through dreams? Quantum theory prevails. Does make plenty of sense if you ask me.



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I think it would be pretty nifty if that was the case. It would open a brand new way of communicating between centuries.



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and couldnt we talk to our family that was on the other side..?



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Even though it sounds like a good idea it really doesnt seem possible but it would make you think of history i lot better. When reading the topic I kept thinking of Harry Potter when the pictures on the wall come alive and you have all the ghosts roaming about



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seeing that i have seen ghosts that i have known on this side of life i think that this is not possible



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But ghosts/spirits seem to be from another dimension...like from another time. It doesn't have to be another universe...it's just a different time period or whatever. Maybe I'm wrong but this is what I think.



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i think that ghost are sperits who havent fully passed on to the other life in a clean and sucessfull matter



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I know this might sound strange to some people but...I had a dream about being some kind of ghost investigator and i went to a house because someone complained about a ghost moving furniture. In the dream i remember asking the spirit to move the table, and at first it didnt. I asked it again, and the table moved. I wrote this down. In my conclusion....I figured that perhaps the spirit was moving the table in the past, which was perhaps effecting it's movement in the present. I also wrote down the fact that he moved it when i asked him to the second time. I also saw what the spirit looked like and I guess you can say....he looked like he dressed from the civil wars era or something about that time with a thick moustache and was a very wealthy man. lol Yeah..I'm wierd. What can i say? ^^ I think anything......is possible when it comes to energies that we share, not only around us but maybe throughout space itself. ;)



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I've never heard of anything like this. It's interesting though and makes me wonder... I think it's definately possible.



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06:12:08 May 28 2008
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It's an interesting way to look at it.
They appear to be ghosts to us and we appear to be ghosts to them.
Anything's possible, I guess. It's really a good question.



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09:54:05 May 28 2008
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I say it could be a possiblity however I wouldnt agree. Most ghost hang around ppl they care about and still believe they are still alive. The older ghost I would say it is possible.



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09:56:46 May 28 2008
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I agree with WFP, the concept just doesn't make that much sense to me it leaves a lot of questions unanswered. Ghosts have been portrayed and presented to us as people who have passed away and still have unfinished business on earth, so they can't crossover. I'm not sure I'd buy the projections theory.



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19:02:30 May 28 2008
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I like this theory. I just find it unlikely. Ghost haunt the places were they died, or follow the people that they loved. It just doesnt make sense.



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STABB666
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06:27:48 May 29 2008
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Thread closed for length.



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