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I've always felt that if you could forego the natural "Oh Sh*t" response to impending death and actually focus on what you wanted, that you could in fact come back or even accomplish some other amazing feat.

There was an old movie called Psychomania where these bikers learned you could cheat death and return if you faced death knowing you could come back. Using that last moment as the means of focus and power.

You know, I've actually never thought about that. It'd be awesome to be able to come back after death. Even better if the method was as simple as focusing on it as I died.

Well I believe when we pass we can and do return at will.

To haunt someone though ? I can't think of anything more pointless myself.

I wouldn't do it for the purpose of haunting someone. That would be pointless indeed. I'd likely do it simply for the experience, or maybe to help out those I couldn't in life.

I would imagine myself continuing to do what I am already known to do when nobody is looking and the option is available i would make houses come to life.
When I was crashing from drug abuse and the withdrawals stumped my heart I felt I could slip out in advance, sort of a response to expected pain, I have thought"what if my body had seacsed to function would my soul depart leaving my conscious to linger? would my consciousness need my soul as a carrier Beyond the Horizon. If disembodied souls stay here, and have the ability to interact with this world, then it would be easy to imagine the disturbing activity becoming far less then mystifing, more like annoying.

There are ways in which "ghost' like things remain behind for those that know a loved ones routines and the things they attached themselves to act as apport
for quirky remenence, like a car left to a loved one only starting after using the deceased persons name... I could see myself if the option to stay behind doing such things subtlely, I imagine interacting with the material realm would require tapping the fading energy that a spirit would be made of, energy that is preserved for the purpose of lingering here instead of passing. I would lead my loved ones to release me to pass giving them subtle assurances that I 'went with a smile" Until then i will continue to practice ghost craft, because if one day I see something subtle that that is beyond comparision to what I know about ghost, then I will be silently astonished.

My dad studied Metaphysics. He and I have had some pretty interesting talks about these sort of phenomenons. He is a great man with amazing knowledge on the subject, which has taken me by great surprise.

We have talked about meditation, and the concentration of energy with the mind. The mind, as we know, holds great power. We as humans do not yet know the power we hold once we train and master the use of it (the brain). He has been able to go in such deep meditation, that he has actually traveled out of his body and used the energy around him to collaborate with these energies surrounding our world...or as most people call them, Ghosts.

It is possible, and one should be quite careful, to have out of body experiences while meditating and have some other sort of energy roaming around invade your physical body while you are away from yours.

I think that is what I can fathom...and probably even consider a haunting...Like the one you are talking about my dearest BM.

It is a topic that quite caught my attention, and has freaked me out a little bit. Therefore, causing me to lay low on the experimentation of these exercises if you can call them that.

Do I think it is possible? Yes. I believe that anything is possible in this world as long as you put your *mind* to it ;)

People with over active imaginations and deep in denial
haunt people everyday and they are still alive... Para Behavioral psuedo-telekinisis is the dismissal of inadvertent concicences to spontaneous activity.

like a mother asking a child, " who broke the vase?" and the child answers, "it just flew across the room,"

well now the child has to whether consciously or subconsciously set up support for such claims. Para Behavioral Activity. But to really connect with my loved ones after passing I will hide things to be revealed to them as i drift farther away. I imagine it will be fun to watch. So if the child had said instead of "it flew across the room' say he said" my friend did it." are you going to dismiss the kids claim? because the child watches adults talk about para Normal behavior, and used that as a prepackaged excuse. How would you hold the child accountable? You would have to catch the child in action, would that be enough. I would fear that if my loved ones knew i was a ghost i would be so attached to this planet and realm again. i would sooth their worries with a few thoughtful appearances and be done with a place I have already, been to and done that, i would opt out of rencarnation as well. but on the way out especially if i died a sudden death I would linger as a comforting "presence" for those that draw me with Attached considerations.

LaMuerte, I'm with you, totally experimental with the haunting, and the human reaction to it. I'd look for and be so pleased with a down-to-earth human with whom I jcould have a decent conversation. Well, a conversation.

Felix: I wish it were that easy. DarknessB's astral projection combined with a focused awareness. I think there's a Poe story about some crazy old rich guy (Vincent Price in the movie version) who tries to plan his haunting, and the whole idea backfires. i was never satisfied with that ending.

silentrunning - a really cool story, and how wonderful for your mother to always feel so protected.

I will definitely work on that one.

well put Ade, subtle links are more convincing to me then the extraordinary claims. I could rest and pass on knowing that people would feel connected with me. because they took the time to get to know me when I was here. Sharing activity with me. Activities that allow them to reminice.

I would walk around and be a spirit to see what kind of music people would be listening to. thats just me....

As mentioned above i'd perhaps concentrate on coming back to "hover" over my loved ones and maybe, somehow, leave subtle messages to help guide them through hard times...of course the other side of the coin is that you could,if you so wished to, come back and literally haunt a living soul who has wronged you or your loved ones....[insert evil laugh]

It'd be interesting to see how group dynamics would work with intentional 'ghosting' if i can use that word.

If a child was in a room were something broke and when the child was asked what happened answered, "It just flew across the room." how likely would you be to believe the kids explanation?

I would use follow up questions such as "What made it fly across the room ?" Making the child explain his/her explanation. If the activity continued how would you proceed?

Well I think you subconsciously make the decision of what happens to your soul after death anyway, but if you really focus on it at that moment right before it happens, I think there would be a much better chance.

i think it is a choice you make to stay here to move on it maybe a one time choice you either choice to move on or stay here if you choose to stay here you are stuck here forever.

some people are suspended perhaps because others may "gravitate" them from passing out of distance.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall in a mens Kmart change room. *blushes*

I'd move tools around in my dads shed and spin him out.

Tourment EVER man that even looks side ways at my daughter.

Visit Robbie Williams in his sleep and show him some Love light. "tee,hee"

Oh yeah! That's easy!

Just astrally travel and leave your body..become familiar with the astral world..and you can totally haunt people or spy on them ;) ...Or fuck with them...Or in fact get other creatures to do it for you LMFAO! :P

Being a ghost is so addictive. Once you learn to act spooked with the people you are spooking. It is amazing how easy it is to disspell someone, they are alert to what others react to and how others react, almost like a cue, it is much more likely to be spoted with one person in the "audience" then a group. to find that a member of the audience is a "performer" is always a surprising bonus. Heres one for you to ponder... What really spooks a person that "haunts houses as a hobby."

getting busted doin the spookin???

Id rob malls of every cheese cake shop i could plasmate myself into.

Only once the person kept the secret though. A sly wink usually works. I had to teach him some basics (even though I failed to teach him protocal). knowing effects and knowing how and when... that is the complete craft.

We also had an apparition fail on once. it sucked because we raelly had it going , someone had a camera to it would have been my first 'pose' 'performance.

If possible this would take extreme concentration and energy I would think. I do believe in hauntings but I'm not sure if you can plan for such a thing I rather think that it depends on the condition that one dies under and their state of mind at said occurrence.

But if it were possible I think I would use that ability to care for my loved ones and help guide them through their lives. And then maybe a little curiosity spying lol .....

Always said I want to come back to a "party" of my death. I wish no tears. Just all having food & drinks on me. Then I would move a chair to joint them . I'll always watch over them.

For me, I thing that a significant level of emontional energy would need to be enacted in order to come back as an active ghost.

The only two times that comto mind that would initiate this level of rsponse would be if someone truly harmed me. They would be getting a visit from the otherworkd in a manner that they could not handle.

The other is having me be taken away from my new famlity. I would require myself to be with my wife and new child in order to onserve and share with their growth and to also act as their silent protector.

That last would be a significant motivator for anyone, but I could see The Dog being a guardian angel for your kid. That would be interesting.

Anger is the incentive in a lot of fiction, kind of the cheap and easy conflict set-up, but I see it as the easiest to dispel and also it's got to be difficult to remain a hard case in another dimension. Seems like there would be more fun aspects of that existence to explore.

The party idea is good. My brother and I plan on getting drunk when Mom passes. I'm going to suggest to her that she give us a signal that she's with us.

I keep thinking that I will be haunting a place, a place that I have not seen in over 40 years, yet a place where my mind, my heart, my soul, fly to, makes me believe more and more that it is a place where my spirit will hover for eternitym or untill the next incarnation.

Master Emmanuelo, is this place from your childhood, a happy place you abandoned, or a dream location?

Are there people there?

I think it is possible to think about staying and being a ghost just before you die. I know there are a few I would like to haunt.

i agree with dog with the energy of vengance I would ride my self of such negative (not bad negative just opposed negative) I would purge that toward the person who hastened my demise, i would enrich the revenge mechanizime in those that would avange me , sort of like spirit enrichment through residual possessions and I would appear a few times to the killer as well, then after all that I would settle in with my family until I disappated further into the ether.

I would haunt my parents

That is very mature lostinpa.

maybe he would see how much they could have taught him when he was alive (back when he knew it all, and parents where "so unhip")

I would cast a circle and then do a spell for it....

No. I wouldn't want to come back as a non-physical being.

I believe in re-incarnation; So to me [the way I think anyway] if I were to come back as a ghost I'd miss out on coming back as a breathing, living creature.

Mistakalmoon (sorry sp!): is there a spell for becoming a ghost?

I wouldnt want to haunt someone unless they deserve to be bugged....

If I became a ghost I would probably haunt the country side.

Singularity- there are people who believe you can remain a ghost on Earth for some time or go to the summerlands then reincarnate, so some people believe both are possible.

Anyway if that would be really possible, and I think that there is the possibility that if someone feels is not ready to leave yet, they remain here.

If I could choose to have the possibility to do it I'd do it, to check who went to my funeral and stuff, to be able to read people's mind would be awesome too, haunting someone...hmm...could include that in my After Death to do list too, there are some people I'd love to scare :P

As for Astral Projection, which is risky like anything paranormal related, I don't know if you can haunt people with it, I wouldn't be surprised if it was possibile because I suspect someone did it to me.

if i did die and was able to be a ghost if only for a little while, then i would only do one thing and that is make sure the person that i love was moving on with her life and being happy without me. i wouldnt stick around to creep people out, or randomly throw things, or anything of the sort. i would just make sure she was happy and ok and then move on myself.

I think we have the choice after death as we do in life to make a choice to stay on. I would look after those I love and try to let them know I was ok and watching over them until one day they join me.

What a cool idea...force yourself to become a haunting spirit when you die.

Usually the ghost thing is triggered by extreme emotion or trauma at the time of death, but the concept of mentally willing yourself to remain as a presence no matter how you die, wow, what a chore.

I guess you would need to focus your mental capacity and constantly willing yourself to be. Then, when the time of death comes, you go through your motions, and then you would force yourself to continue to exist.

This is similar to the concept of a lich, where the person is so evil and so determined to commit evil, that even after their death, the spirit is willed into continued existance.

I guess if you are not able to get bit by a vamp, this would be an alternative to live forever...

I wish I had advanced past novice in the Society of the Rusty Nail, I would liked to have installed some more elaborate rigs in houses, I have don some one shot effects but to know that when I pass on I had a rigged house to still scare others after I am long gone. Or that I taught a "poltergeist" performance group how to put on a skilled performance that they can pass on to their children as well. I figure I have created a few ghost .. even if only in a few peoples well entertained minds.

I would want to return and haunt the earth. Not sure who or where I would go, but I don't think I belong any place but on this earth.

i would focus and haunt my children to ensure their safety after i had passed.

There are certain people in my life that have done what they can to help me have a fairly long life. If I became a ghost I would use the time to watch over and protect them.

I wouldn't haunt noone but would watch over my children and friends

I really think that people say this in a joking way not really believing that they could come back to haunt someone. Then when they are able to it makes it funny I assume

So far the only practical advice we have is to plan for your haunting in a focused way, and at the moment of death to really direct your energy in an out-of-body manner.

If there are spells or meditations that one could do, I'd sure like to know about them.

i would haunt micheal jackson

I know who I would haunt. An ex tenant that keeps on buggin me on my reg site. I would scare him repeatedly. Move things around his place. try to smash his fingers in closing windows or doors...

That is neat, DarknessBound, about your Dad. My Mom and I have had so many conversations over the years too. I would like to know what your Dad found out from the ghosts. Since Mom passed, I have been wanting to hear something. More than what I have believed my whole life, in spirituality.

I read somewhere that Houdini wanted to come back after death. He had made a promise to show his wife that he was there. According to the story I read somewhere, people believe he did appear to her, but she would not confirm or deny it. He did all kinds of seances and stuff like that to try to learn how to come back. If I can find the article again, I could post it if you like. I will look for it at least.

I don't think I would actually "haunt" someone. Maybe just look out for them. Ya know, keep them as safe as I can.

_To be honest, I have no clue what I would do, but I hope that when I die, people would want to celebrate the life that I had rather than mourn the death I suffered. It's my goal to make people see the life that is worth living rather than the life that is worth losing. As for what I would do after I died, well...I do agree that it is possible to focus one thought and one purpose in the time of your death, one thing you would like to do before the end of the world, and then do it in death. And so, I would want to watch the people I loved find happiness even in the shadow of my death. I would want to see them move on while still remembering me as I was. I'm not an overly sad and depressed individual, and so, I would want to hear them laugh, even if it was just once for the each of them._

LadyDragon423: Yes, if you have an archive of articles and can scan it here or find it online, that would be very helpful.

There's probably something in the mass of Houdini, or Cayce material.

i would want to protect the one i love and be sure she made it thru my death and found happiness again

I believe it's possible...without a doubt. Sometimes if I want to wake at a certain time the next morning, I will chant it to myself several times before I fall asleep--Get up at seven, get up at seven, get up at seven. Without fail, I always wake up at the right time. Using this as a small example of what your mind is capable of, then it would be very plausible you could talk yourself into coming back. Especially if you know it's coming. For example, if you're sick and dying, you could tell yourself every day that you'll stay to make sure everyone is ok.

On the other hand, if it's a sudden thing...I'm not so sure it would work. However, I'm prone to believing that it's sudden deaths that lead to most hauntings. You're jerked out of your body and surroundings so fast that there has to be some confusion. So while you're hanging out all confused, maybe you could make the conscious effort to stay.

Very, very interesting topic. I've often thought that I'd like to stay for a while. I just want to watch my loved ones. Take my time saying goodbye. Watch them sleep, hear them laugh, maybe even comfort them when they're troubled. The thing is, I'd probably never feel satisfied enough to leave. :( I mean really, could you ever have enough time to say goodbye? I couldn't.

I would love to cheat death, but really that would be simply putting off the inevatable. I don't think i would come back to haunt anyone. To me that would be a waste of a well learned ability.

I would love to come back and haunt some people. Not for very long though. I don't think that it would be good to stay around that long. If we could only know where we'll go after death it would sure help to know if we can come back here LOL!

Life after Death sure haunt people Maybe *

Define life after death though. Some beliefs are different than others.

What kinds of things would you do?

I would freak my friends out and people I don't like


Could an individual or a group practice together with the intention of themselves coming back as ghosts?

No I do not think it.


What kind of will, practice or focused energy would that take?

A lot more then most people or a group can make.



Would a group be helpful?

nope

Well if I was going to come back and haunt anyone it would be a family member or friend. I wouldn't be the romantic ghost more the trickster that hides the car keys lol.

I think it would be fun. Imagine the things you can do and never get caught I would defently be in it lol. It woud bring a new meaning to being a fly on the wall. I think I would be the prankster type ghost as well.

No, I wouldn't want to haunt someone. In my opinion it would be rather cruel to do so,.

I would so haunt my mother... if she's still alive.

Cinnamon, you're right, it does raise the question of "powers."

Doesn't it always reduce to that when we're talking about the supernatural? What limits, abilities, the rules.

When thinking of powers after death, or life, the vampire trumps ghosts and reincarnation in terms of being able to act for the benefit of loved ones. They also have the side benefit of being scary.

After the initial spectral laughs with scaring or confusing people, it might get boring being a ghost.

Ghosts are in the taint zone, taint human and taint gone, disembodied and restless.

I like how the ghost I know improvise with variations on what already scared people.

well, ghosts are usually spirits that are not ready to cross on after death, they are afraid of what comes after their time on earth. it's supposedly a miserable existence so i wouldn't see a group or person trying to do that unless they were ignorant to the consequenses of their actions.

I'd only want to be a ghost as long as I don't have to spend eternity reliving a nightmareish event, being burned or beaten to death.

If I was to die, I personally wouldn't want to Haunt anyone and wouldn't want anyone to haunt me for that matter. I just think when your dead then you body is gone but your spirit lives on forever.

when it is my time, It would be a comfort to know that I could come back and look after the people I care about the most.

It is believed by many if you focus your energy you can have a out of body experience is this what you speak of? if so this is done individually as well as in groups(when having a mind fight also) from what i'm told it's kind of like meditating for a reason it is believed in this form you can fly to anywhere and do anything from just moving one thing like a spoon or opening a door to moving a pin 1mm this is said to drain you physically and emotionally and some people never "come back" to their bodies and it is said that many people have died or gone into a "comba" doing this so if you do try it have a person who has done it before with you because they will know how to "bring you back"

I have always said that when I die was never going to get even with someone I was always coming back to haunt them

I believe that if you were to keep focused when death is near. That it is quite possible. That is a hard task to achieve I would think.

I'd love to come back to haunt those who did me wrong and help those I loved through the pain of loss. Once everyone is over my death I'd possibly like to finally rest in peace.
If everyone decided to haunt someone then the world would be rather crowded.

Most people don't want to haunt, though. If they know they are nearing death, most people want to be done with the world. Old people seem to get very tired, nap more, struggle to remain awake. There's a magnetic draw to that final sleep, like an overwhelming fatigue you can no longer fight, so sweet to go deep and let the blackness wrap you in thick comfort.

Well after a lifetime I'm sure that what your describing must feel like heavenly bliss to some. A final rest. A sweet sleep..

i guess if someone had some serious unfinished business then they could come back and haunt someone. it would be a cursed existence and not very pleasant at all.

I'd like to have one last frolic, and would rather that it be at the expense of my loved ones . . . who actually might get it after having their pants scared off. lshistd. That would be so much fun. And if they didn't . . . well tsk, tsk, that always bothered me.

heres how I will do my hauntings on request.. keep something shiny near you .. and tlk like I am not there. I will be but i probly will be to fixtated on the shiny object to "say' much.

there's one person i want to haunt very mucn. it would be horrid fun to make his life hell like he's making my friend's. so, yeah, just for him i'd do it.

I'd like to come back, & be a fly on the wall so to speak. I think it'd be quite amusing.

after i die i wouldnt want to come back unless i had no feelings because idk i think it would be too depressing and it would get old after awhile and it would be lonely i would rather have my soul at rest but it would be fun to mess with people i dislike for awhile though

I think I'd haunt my loved ones...just to make sure they're safe and that no one fucks with them.

i would like to come back and haunt all the people i dont like and scare the crap out of them,then let them know it was me so they would know how much i didnt like them :D

Bloodmother;
To answer your question, these are the spells I found in my spellbook:

- Spells to avoid ghosts creating any mischeif.
- Spells to banish them.
- Spells to attract protective ghosts.
- Spells to communicate with them..

It also said..

*Candles that burn dim, low or blue may indicate the presence of a ghost.
*An unexpected chill in the air may indicate a ghost; a frequent observation is that the presence of ghosts is indicated by a significant decrease in temperature-- a cold spot.
*Ghosts may signal their presence through specific fragrance, a sort of aromatic spelling card.

I think it would depend on the circumstances surrounding my death.

If I still had someone to protect, I know I would come back.

I think if I could, I would come back as a poltergeist, and mess with people. *chuckles*

id also want to come back as a good ghost but most likely that may not happen , maybe a deamon and haunt the hell out of people..

to be honest, i wouldn't want to haunt someone unless i actually really hated their guts because to haunt someone means to be a wretched soul.

why not Darkness, I think it would be fun lol

I would haunt my dad the good for nothing son of a well you get the pic and would do what ever i could.

A ghost I know haunted a tweeker out of their rental nest. I am looking for my ghosts voice. I want both the whisper and the growl. My old neighbor has his growl/gutteral voice down.

I wouldn't actually want to haunt anyone. I would like to be able to watch over them and protect them from harm.

i would haunt my ex girlfriend

I've warned my brother that if I die before him to look for signs of a haunting. If I can I'd like to mess with his computer keyboard, garble his outgoing messages. Or I might mess with his coffeemaker when he's half-asleep in the morning, maybe have it say something. Move things around. It would be more fun for me to mess with people I like. Share one last joke.

maybe i would haunt my ex.. drag him outta bed by his toes or something..lol

As far as my point of view on this subject, I have lived in a few haunted houses so I know it happens....Yes there are a few people I would want to come back and just pesture...lol not really haunt. I have even told my family and friends that if possible I will be back to pesture them.

Some people spend their whole lives hating life itself. Why would anyone want to come back? You'd have to be a hateful little shit to want to come back just haunt some one.

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