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My question is if you think a vampire, in the fictional sense, would commit suicide for any reason?

If so for what reason?

Perhaps a lost love, loneliness, or just sheer boredom from being around so long.

Are there any accounts of a Vampire committing suicide in any books or legends that you know of?

I think that some would, if they could. Mostly due to boredom over unliving for such a long time.

I don't recall any accounts of this in literature, but if there are I am sure someone will come along shortly with a referance.

KCRK, Your responce in another thread is actually what made it pop into my mind. I know I would never want to live forever, although a few centuries might be interesting. I would think that it could be quite depressing after some time.

I personally dont know of any accounts in literature but I'm not a vampire buff by any means.

Cant see why one would want to go from prince of darkness to hell bait?

Guilt, perhaps. Maybe if a vampire was forced to feed on someone they cared about they'd want to die.

in some books that I have read Vampires end there life due to lonelyness

perhaps this is the way most vampires die due to the fact they have suffered for so long that it drives them over the edge

30 Days of Night...the main character turns himself into a vampire....to save the people he loves...then kills himself when the sun comes up...to save the people he loves.

Evilkitty, perhaps, but it seems like I would have heard of it before if that was the case. Perhaps it just isn't written about because it isn't the most glorified way to go. However, I can see something somewhat noble about it in the context of what DarkWolfman refrences.

In Varney the Vampyre ( by James M. Rymer - 1847) the vampire jumps to his death into Mt. Vesuvius.

Depending on how that personality has adapted to its immortality -- they may not believe in heaven and hell as we do. For them, it may just be a chance to rest. For others, it's the ability to carry on as they wish for as long as they wish to do it. If a soul can still stay in tact for all that time, suicide would not surprise me. Once that same person allows surrender to the demon, there may never be remorse.

Just a thought...

I think a vampire might commite suicide if he had to witness all of his loved ones die around him and he had no lifemate to share with...or worse his lifemate was destroyed..that would do him in make him worthless and nothing but a destroyer with no more feeling left in him...in his own eyes..

If the vampire is actually the walking dead then they have no emotions or feelings and therefore it would not matter to them how long they live or about being bored or even hurting someone they love. So I say no reason to commit suicide

I've actually read a couple of books where vampires commited suicide. One was because he'd lost too many loves and couldn't take losing another..... And the other one I think made herself a sacrifice to save someone's life..... I can't remember what they are though.. I'm going to have to look that up now. =^_^= I'll post again as soon as I find them. :P

I can see a fictional vampire who had out lived life till there was nothing left but, him and the nature around him. and jumps off into a firey pitt of doom. Many fear this sort of thing happening and some don`t want to face the music just yet or some just goes off into a madness till they do harm to themselfs. B/c they was unstable to handle the dark gift.

Given that the vampires you are referring to are the romanticized versions and not the undead, un-feeling creatures of the night side of the lore, I think suicide thoughts would not be uncommon. Most romanticized vampires are still painted with human emotions, take all those feelings of emptiness and loneliness together and multiply them to infinity, imagine what that would feel. I've come across a book in Rice's Vampire Chronicles (Blood and Gold, if I remember correctly) referencing to a vampire who surrendered herself to the sun one morning because she could no longer bear eternal life.

I think for some the feelings of guilt and remorse. Having to see loved ones die over and over again. I believe that the maker of Lestat, Magnus? I think, killed himself after creating Lestat in an Anne Rice novel.

I bet they could of course. Louie in the Interwiew with an Vampire, always felt like dieing, even after he was succesfuly turned.

He suffered from some for of dissagrement with the enviornment, so that caused him severe depression.

I believe if the pressure is to high, anyone can commit a suicide, even a vampire.

Yes I think they could, and it could be for many reasons unknown to people.

After a few lifetimes of loss, I think the vampyre would eventionally give into th epain of seeing it and in turn just give up and self suicide.

I read once on a Internet site about a lady vampire committing suicide,I think she use garlic it might have been some thing else but she injected it into her neck.

here is the web address if you wish to read it.

http://www.haemavore.com/

well if you ask me a lifetime of being alive watching everyone die age after age might make anyone walk into the sun...... no one was ment to live forever.....and i dont see why anyone would want to.........

I can imagine why one would.. from the loss of loved ones.. and watching the 'era' you're from changing.. as humanity changes society getting louder.. etc etc (if you were a vampire from the olden days) It would definatly be a hard life to live...

And even if said 'suicidal' vampire slept in his/her crypt for 1000 years - waking up would be just as lonely and strange.

Boredom mixed with a liking for drama perhaps ?....I can almost hear the speach a vamp would make before he took the final plunge lol

i guess if i was a vampire then after a while i might just get bored of being alive... but i guess if you were a vampire in the first place there would always be a certain amount of drama as said, but i think that darkness would eventaully eat away at you until theres nothing left.

maybe because they cant stand to live without their lover and the would go and commit suicide

yes vampire would do suicide just like everyone else. the main idea is still behind it why people want to kill themself. yes i have read some books of many different vampires killed them self for many reason but it is all the same human nature that drives them to that point.

I think if one is prone to depression before being turned they would also be prone to dpression after, which is what often leads to suicide. I would think even in a vampire.
Hollywood sucide vamps I never saw that in a movie but my wild thought would be just going into the daylight would be instant suicide for a depressed vamp.
Also, even if was not prone to depression.....loss of so many loves along the centurys would be depressing enough to me.
Just my thoughts and 2 cents:)

In Forever Knight, more than one vampire welcomed the dawn sun to end their existence.. lost loves, boredom, just not finding the joy or meaning of their existence any longer. Ending an existence can be for many things, people do it for reasons that make no sense to others, just to the ones ending it.

I feel that the reason a vampire would want to commit suicide is the thought that their loved ones are now gone and there is really nothing left. Immortality would get boring after sometime.

i thought vampires had no conscience so they wouldn't commit suicide for love or guit or pain or any other human reason. actually vampire suicide is a pretty ironic oxymoron. a being that probably chose to be immortal taking it's own undead life.

Hmm..Interesting take on things.

I think that fictional vampires can be suicidal, I mean, why not when everyone else can.

A reason is a little harder, since it will probebly be a mixture of different things. It can be the slightest little detail that can push you over the edge.

If I should pick one I would go with the selfrealisation. Look inside and see what you have become, forced to feed on others like a parasite, only come out at night, not being able to be with some loved one, compared to the life before you were awakened. In other words, guild and fear.

Thank you, sweetblooded, my thoughts exactly.

Pandora, it was Lestat's maker, a nutty old guy who danced around the flames and didn't tell Lestat a damn thing about his undead existence. Magnus had paid a vamp to turn him, I think. Nice work if you can get it.

Louis of Interview had a morose nature even before he was turned.

An amazing number of people have few interests, and bore easily. They are not good candidates for eternal life, and would off themselves, for sure.

I didn't think that it was set in stone that a vampire would be all cold blooded. It seems that there have be a number of accounts of vampires have a conscious and remorse for actions. Also, I didn't think that it was always a free choice to become one or not.

Can they? If they would probably of love.

I don't think the reasons would be any different then why normal people commit suicide.

can a vampire commit suicide? that seems like a funny idea to me. i always think of vampires of beings that have either been forced into immortality or have chosen to be immortal. the fact that they would commit suicide goes against their vampiric nature. i guess they could stake themselves through the heart, if that works.

I believe that if a vampire were to commit suicide it would be because they were lonely and bored of being around so long...

I would guess there is only so much one can do before you have seen it all...done it all...and ate it all...also it must get lonely seeing everyone around you die while you live on...

if they are already dead how could they die again

ChaosxXxVampire,

I believe vampires are termed 'undead' in this form of reference, so their 'suicide' would be the destruction of their own existence.

Thats what I was getting at. I'm sorry if I was a little to vague. I think its good though because it gives more to discuss.

I believe vampires would kill themselves for any reason some human would.

Sorrow
Exhausted of living
Being alone
Or accidently doing so

Vampires minds aren't really too different from that of a humans.

the fact that makeing a living loved one is pointless unless you want to turn them because they will all eventually die

Not all immortals would fall into the romanticized version of a vampire. In every society there is a ‘food chain’, so to speak. If you ended up being the low man on the totem pole, you might see a very real need for self destruction.

Do vampires feel the same emotions that humans do? If so, jealousy, depression, envy might be some reasons for a vampire to consider ending his existence.

well, i'm sure sme have tried, when they're sad, have a soul or have lost someone, or have been around for a long time, not 'cause they're bored of living, but ...idk...etc...i think one did on angel, the tv series, and in an amelia atwater rhodes book...

in my stories, i created a vampire game called kissing dawn. tisn'texactly suicide - just taking dangerous risks for the thril of it. the game is to hover high in the sky just before sunrise. as the sun rays hit the vampire (in many stories and legend sunlight does not burn a vampire - just renders them ito a torpor) thevampire falls into a torpor, and plummets to the ground. as they get nearer the ground, they are too low for the sun too reach them. the trick is to wake up in time.

a vampire is midway between life and death - not truly alive but not dead either, so they need the thrill of being close to death to help maintain their grip on life.

I haven't ever heard of a vampire committing suicide I know in literature they sleep for long periods of time when they get bored with things..But since they are already dead I doubt it be called suicide.

The only vampire I can think of that committed suicide was Louis in Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles. But of course that is fiction. But if I were a fictional vampire, probably the main reason why I would do it is because all my loved ones died away, leaving me there all alone.

i think it would be just getting tired of living on. Not to mention being alone forever. Leaving all your loved ones behind.

Yes vampires would commit suicide. Most likely for the same reasons as humans do. They were human after all. And it must get hard living forever watching people that they have gotten close too and love get old and die. They must feel left behind at one point.

I haven't read anything about vampires committing suicide yet. But someone will write a book about it one day. Imagination is infinite.

I wouldn't want to live forever. People coming & going, & having to keep reliving the pain of loss.

Another vamp suicide in fiction was the character Nyssa in Blade II. After being infected at the end of the movie she wanted to die and Blade put her out in the sun.

I think vamps would have many reasons for suicide just like humans have.

Yes in Ann Rice novels she spoke of the old ones going into a firepit or running into the sun. How long could one live watching one die, boredom ect.

I have read a few stories and seen a few movies where a vampire "walked into the sun" and it was either they did not want to live as what they had become, or they had become lonely.

I would think that maybe faced with the gravity of his actions a vampire, would want to either repent or take away their own lives. I'd opt for the repenting and making up for my sins, whatever they are.

I just don't see them wanting to commit suicide very much. Maybe a couple of fictional accounts, but I think pride would be the driving force to keep living. At least on a fictional level.

Well of course they would, I would imagine being around forever would most certainly take its toll.

Lestat's maker from the Anne Rice books jumped in the fire and killed himself.

it used to be believed in england that someone who commits suicide would rise as a vampire unless they were buried at a crossroads. i would think that if they were predisposed to suicide in life, they might have the same tendency in death too.

darkwolfman at the top of the page: the guy that changed into a vampire did not actually kill himself, he just sat in the sun

Wouldn't that still be suicide if it was intentional? I would think so unless you don't think that sitting in the sun would kill a vampire.

From depression, lone-liness, or just tired of living, in my opinion.

I don't think a vampire would kill them selfs. If where to bored they could always sleep. And they lost a some one they loved I'm sure they could find some one else to love. It is said that time heals all wounds and a vampire as lots of time. And loneliness is cursed by finding other like them selfs.

I guess the only way I see a vampire killing them self is if they ran out of food. That's about it.

of all the account of various literature that i can think of there is only one account of a Vampire commiting suicide. it happened as soon as he was turned. in the rage of his bloodlust, he slaughtered everyone in his home town trying to sate his hunger. after he awoke the next night to the scene of all he loved in various stages of being drained of all blood. stricken with endless remorse, he impaled himself on the church steeple and waited for the sun to rise, destroying him completely

Suicide --- easier discussed than done, for both humans and the undead. The will to live is stronger than the will to die; there's a certain addictive aspect to it.

I am fairly certain that in The Vampire Lestat, Lestat's maker, Magnus, burn himself in a pyre after turning Lestat.

However, I can understand why an immortal being such as a vampire would wish to end it at some point. How many lifetimes can one stand to see before growing weary? How many loved ones would have to be lost before wanting to join them?

time is endless...perhaps it can drive a vampire to madness or despair

What is interesting is that in literature today, they write their vampires having a caring, sympathic heart, while being the hunter/killer and compared to our yester-years, most were told or written as dark careless creatures. Today...their emotions and feelings are very human-like. Again, this depends on what stories or legends you are going by in our time frame of stories,of what a vampire really is and what their emotions or reason for why they would even attempt suicide would be. If you think about it...anyone who looses a love depending on how close the bond is...will feel as if they want to die, and some cases they have. If one feels lonely enough, or lost enough....will in most cases feel this way so the ficitional stories really just tap into our OWN emotions. Which this is saying there isn't too much difference between a vampire and a human emotionally.

Many 18th century cultures believe that committing suicide turned you into a vampire. However, the following link provided this information:

http://www.fvza.org/archives4.html

"Actually, suicide rates are much higher among vampires than civilians. For much of the 20th Century, suicide rates in the United States hovered between 10 and 15 suicides per 100,000 people. Vampires suicide rates were easily triple that. And vampire suicide rate estimate were probably low, because many vampires whose cause of death was listed as malnutrition had made a conscious decision to stop feeding."

"During my years with the Vanguard in Los Angeles, we handled vampire suicide reports on a weekly basis. Vampires would fling themselves off buildings and in front of trains and trucks; they would light themselves on fire or take poison."

"For those who still insist on treating vampirism as a romantic existence, consider the suicide note left behind by Jacob Drexel, member of a prominent Philadelphia family who was transformed in 1937. After Drexel leaped off the City Hall tower one snowy night, a suicide note was found that closed with the following lines: "I have been living in constant torment over the unspeakable acts I have committed, and yet I am powerless to stop committing them. May God forgive me."

ChaosxXxVampire -

Vampires aren't dead. They're undead.

Vampires in the fictional sense might kill themselves for many of the same reasons mortals might. Some of them may feel so guilty for taking the lives of so many others that the pressure gets to them. I doubt that I could handle that.

ann rice wrote about vampire suicide by them jumping into the fire.....

i think on the tv series forever knight they had a vampire suicide on there were she sat out on a park bench and waited for the sun to come up.

no one is saposed to live forever i think it would be pretty boreing after awhile. and some might go mad from it. so inturn i could see them commiting suicide.

I don't know of any that I have heard of any but I think its very possible for vampire who have been around 1000+ years to be so loely and lost, they could rather wnat to die

silentsorrow -

You forget 'stepping into the sun' or 'asking an older vampire to kill them' for Anne Rice. ;]

well mbk i was just useing a 1 forinstance lol .i thought someone else might like to share in there too but yes of course you are right . there was stepping into the sun and or haveng an elder kill you off too.

And even in her books they all have reasons for wanting to die. -nods-

i think that living for an extended period of time would be rather lonely. it seems as though all of Rice's Vampires that kill themselves or try to, do it from a perspective of great loss, or having failed so badly that they can no longer live with themselves.

i think itd be out of tiredness of human stupidity. if they got tired of it just die.

yes mbk and i think ann rice hit it on the head with them wanting to die . you would eventually grow tired of liveing that long . and eventually want to just end it.

Darkened08 -

What about for those who just get lonely?

Actually... in the Cult Comic book trilogy "Batman vs Dracula" in the third book.... Batman is a full blown vampire, feeding on Gothem City's Criminals....

After batman is attacked by both the police and organized criminals in his Batcave....

the Cave is collapsed and Batman is looking towards the rising sun....

he realizes that he is becoming a bigger monster then any of those the Batman ever fought....

he stands in the rays of the morning sun, and turns to dust.

I've seen lots of movies and read a few books where the vampires kill themselves. Its usually very sad. In the movie "the thirst" at the end the two main charecters step out into the sunlight together. In the comic book "30 days of night" in the end the guy steps out into the light. In one of my favorite vampire love stories when the vampire steps out into the sunlight at the end... I cry. Hey wait, why do they always step out into the sunlight?? It looks like that would be the most painful way to go!!! I guess its a metaphore?

In a book I read before, a vampire killed to be killed, which is a form of suicide.
I don't remember what the book was titled.
The character killed some other vampires mate because he knew it would get him mad enough to kill the murderer.

I'm sure there's something in one of the Vampire Chronicles by Anne Rice about a vampire killing themselves by just staying in the sun...

I would imagine that eternal life could turn into 'too much of a good thing' and you'd get sick of it eventually, so sure, I think a vamp would have a good reason for suicide.

Personally, I doubt I'd ever get tired of living eternally. Considering that a vampire has more of a predatory instinct to feed, would they really feel any regret over turning or killing others to survive?
Whether man or beast, self preservation or survival is one of our greatest instincts.

Valid point. Its been awhile since I posted this and after thinking and reading responses I have come to my own conclusion.

I think that it would vary for different people. Some might be more open to the idea of "offing" themselves, while others would simply love the fact that they are eternal.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

I personally would commit suicide after a while just because of boredom and repetitous occurances of death.

I'm sure the lack of not findinf peace with the soul would be a motivator.

Maledicta -

Lestat in the desert trying to die.

Armand in 'Memnoch the Devil' after seeing the veil.

et cetera ...

Bones -


Wouldn't you ever get lonely, though?

The loss of loved ones would be the worse part.

MBK,

As long as there were women on earth, I doubt I'd ever get lonely!

Secondly, at the risk of sounding.....evil? As each one died, I could move on to another.... no nasty break-ups, divorces, etc. O.o

That now has me trying to remember the name of a certain movie where there were only women on earth...

Would work for you I'm sure lol.

The way I see it, it would depend on the vampire. The problem of lonliness and longing could be solved. To be able to watch the world evolve, first hand, would be something.

~VS~

I would think mainly it would be lonliness, perhaps some would would like the solidtude. But me personally, I would miss love and the working partnership of a loving relationship.

Noc -

Why wouldn't you be able to have love?

if i were a vampire in the mythological sense, i would commit suicide because i would out live all the people i love, and i would refuse to turn them.

But if you did indeed turn them, that would make for a better existence, no?

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