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I know that labels often stick to their own labels. Preps stick with preps and jocks. Goths stick with goths and sometimes punks.

Why are people so afraid of what is different then themselves? I find this to be rather close minded.

I think it's because most people are close minded. I wish things were different. ^.^

because even thou we dont have a problem with other types of ppls they have a problem with us cuz the preps thing some goths or whatever are gross and do gross things plus jelousy also has a role in things...

so do i. sometimes when you think about it it's distgusting but other times it makes sense.

yah but some dont see the part that makes sense cuz they are to worried bout the main things

the thing i hate is that people look at me and my friend like we are crazy because i'm a goth and she's a prep. we have our difference but we also have a lot in common. it pisses me off that people cant look past the outside and really try to get to know you. they judge you and dont look at the facts first.
why the fuck do they do this?

those of similar interests will normally gravitate to one another....the problem arises when two groups or individuals from them come together and refuse to be accepting of each others interests

its just natures way i suppose i mean a lion with a black maneis an out cast but y?

I think preps are afraid of goths because of what people label them as. "Scary", "gross," "disgusting," nasty," ect. I think it is because we fear what is different from us. Some people do not like to talk to me because I am goth. I really do not have much of a problem with diversity....

well many goths are as bad as everyone else for the stereotyping.....frequently when non goth types come to the club they are referred to as the "tourists".....and ostracised until they either leave....or start shit and get booted out..... granted..some come there for just that purpose....but I have no problem with their presence as long as they are not causing disturbance.....

im pritty much nice to everyone but do tend to be uncomfertable round preps

I never understood the whole label thing anyway.

WHen in school (elementary, middle, high, college, grad), I tended to find a few people I could converse with and stick with them, as opposed to saying, "ooo that person's a shit-kicker - don't wanna be seen with them," or "gee, I'd be cool hanging out with that cat with the mohawk."

I don't tend to judge people by appearances - well, to not be hypocritical, I try not to let such narrow thinking guide me.

Being the smart fat black clothing odd hair coloured chick in school who broke the bell curve consistently tended to ostracize me from folks who wanted "normal" friends.

If folks could get past my caustic wit and still be interesting ... then they were friend candidates.

Ok. There is one group of people I judge by appearances.

I love geeks and nerds.

Nerds rule!

It's just human nature, and people are afraid of what's different.

I'm a nerd ;)

I play too much videogames LoL...

I stick to whomever I like .
And man is afraid of what he doesn't know . Just look at what happened to poor jeezass .. :D those nails must have hurt bad ... >:)

If you accept yourself the way you are and you can accept others the way they are (you know.......you take the bad with the good) then you shouldn't worry about what some close minded people might think or say!

Eh... the people I know are still stuck in a kind of 'gothier than thou' mindset, I jump around when I've had too much redbull, and wear stripey socks, thus, I am instantly a retard. I've been friends with people from all sorts of social cliques, but mostly I stick to friends I've always had anyway, as well as some newish ones, and I spend most of my saturday night in a very ungothic irish pub... before I head off to the rock bar, anyway.

i have seen people mix, i dont get labels there is no point in them, i mean some people say they hate that they get labeled by others, but they are just the same cause they label them to.

i think the who idea of being labeled is stupid.

i dont know..in my experience, it isn't most often because of hate or fear (although obviously sometimes that's the case) it's more just simply and innocently because people gravitate toward people with common interests...if you're interested in shopping for mini skirts and clinique make up...you'll want to go to the mall with people who are going to want to look for the same things.
if you're looking for white pancake make-up, black eyeliner, and new fishnets....you'll be hitting different stores and probably be happiest in the company of people with similar interests..and who are best able to tell you whether or not the new brand of eyeliner is too watery.
my best friends have usually been totally preppy in appearance. we did a lot of the same things though (girl scouts, math team, science fairs) so i was accepted fairly seamlessly. we'd see movies, talk, eat together, hang out at school...although, at the same time...i didnt often shop with them, or go to concerts with them...because our tastes were different.
it's not always that a clique of similar people forms because they're afraid of the other people or hate them or whatever...sometimes it's just...you know...similar minded people hang out...and tastes evolve similarly.

Everyone labels no matter how bad it is.
I've got friends of every culture.
Humanity fears the unknown and there are people who judge a sub-culture without having a clue about it.Most of my life I was bullied because of my life style, now I've accepted it.

However I'll never change for others,I don't say am a goth,I say I'm myself and like the gothic scene.I am not afraid to show myself in front of this stupid world.

NO offence, but I would like to ask you your own question Lillith. Looking at your thread pattern, it looks like this really bothers you more than wondering whether it bothers others.

My friends are my friends. Thats all the definition they need. None of them are me, and not all of them are like me. I dont think any further definition is needed, thankyou.

dont care about labels if people want to use them they can i dont care.

hunny i am kind of a punk and my best friend is a prep! half of my friends are preps or rednecks!

ah yes the ever so popular labels. they lick balls but wat can you do when you get labeled. in actuallity i have found that some people being of the same label as you often are the ones giving you the labels. if you take labels seriously then you should look into being a floater. this way you find all different kinds of ppl to hang with. im apart of a wide variety of friends vering from (so called) preps to the (so called) goths. let me tell you when you get away from all of those labels things life is a hell of a lot better.

I really don't like labels..... I listen to Metallica, Ozzy, Biggie, Jay Z. ect.
I wear Sean John, ecko, and I also like to wear black lacy things and wear fangs.... and on occasion I've been known to sport kahki's and a polo shirt! lol
So where the hell do I fit in??
I get shunned by "goths" and then I get the same from "preps"...
People need to look past images and things that are so friggin' trivial. Look inside, thats whats important. But I guess I live in a dream world..lol

Could not have put it better myself, Octavia!

i hate when people label

people fear what they don't understand

the only labels that i know are the ones that are on the back of my clothes

im not really sure, i kinda stuck with the goths because they were the only ones who excepted me. but i did have other freinds in other cliques.

Labels are the reasons that the world is not perfect... They separate everyone... They have no real meaning, except to show controle... Steriotypes and labels have no true guidlines, so who is to say that we are different?... No one is the exact same...

I don't believe in labels, but the rest of the world does. I'm not into the 'goth' psyche or the 'prep' psyche or anything. I'm just into being me. And I repsect people for who they are and how they act, not for how they dress or who they hang out with.

some people would consider me as "gothic" but i have friends who are preps, jocks, goths, rednecks, and nerds. i dont think i really fit into any catagory that i have listed above, no i would consider myself more of a wanderer

To me, labels mean nothing because it's just that, a label, it's not the person.

It doesn't matter if you are goth, prep, punk, geek or whatever you are, its who you are that counts, and that you are being yourself. Its what's on the inside that shines through.

You really start to see the evil of labels when going into Junior and High school. The kids you talked to and chilled with start going certain ways and you fall out with old friends because they're not cool or a freak or not goth enough.
Its just the way things are...social groups, religions, wildlife, music...its all grouped together and labeled. I think its mans need to associate things. Goths listen to goth music, metal heads listen to metal, etc.

i hang out with a little bit of each "label"....i have goth friends....punk friends....geeky friends....and hardly any preps....each groups have different additudes and outlooks on everything..that is why there are labels..

I don't beleive in labels lol i am not sure wher i would fit into them i guess a hippy wiccan goth lol not sure if that is a label
i do notice in high schools it is really bad having twins one is goth and one is prep and they are treated so diff in school they are like best friends but there friends are totally diff most of each others friends won't speak to the other just b/c the way they look if they only knew that on the inside they are pretty much alike

I don*t think you should label people like that srsly cos just because people like dress a preppy or something that doesn*t mean that they*re going to be all "omg youre goth get away from me freak" or the oher way around and i think people that are liek "i hate -a certain label-" are totally stupid and ignorant. I mean I dress kind of preppy often and stuff like that but I have friends of all different "labels" and i dont judge people like that so not everyone is going to judge people so yeah sorry if this doesnt make sense i cant think right my brother is bugging me haha anyway yes so >_> yeah thats what i think haha

I don't know. I don't care either because I respect everyone, "prep", punk, emo, gothic whatever. I respect them all the same and I expect respect back. I think the main reason they have such conflict is that they don't respect eachothers outlooks on life. Even though I am Gothic, my best friend isn't and in fact she is a prep, but she respects my way of life and I respect hers. I almost have no other gothic friends because they don't respect me for having a "prep" friend but the ones that do I know are true friends. So really the label thing all has to do with respect for eachothers way of life.

What I consider "prep" are girls who talk all perky, and squeely and smile NON-STOP.

But it doesn't mean I don't respect them.
I do. And as of many people here, I do agree and wish they'd get past fashion decisions. It's kind of immature. Very stupid. :P

Many people are afriad of change and many are intimidated by the differences so use their immature hatered as a cover for their fear.
It is a way of saying we are better than you, when really they think other wise.

Its just a childish way of hideing.

i used to be a heavy rev head and head banger but i never judged but what about these others be it goths wax heads whatever if you are not the part then you are frowned upon i find now im just trying to get in and kick it with the serial killa krew (sharpening knives stares cleaning guns ) but mine are all plastic so again i dont think that they will accept me wish me luck but

nope didnt make it got to go to hospital see yas get this gash in my throat looked at (blurry fading)

i just think that it's safe. when you are in the group you feel...safe. i never was a member of somekind of group. i was with everybody. this is why i never sad that i belong to somebody. i'm who i am. why do people need to call theme selfs punks or ... if they have names? i think it's littel bit stupid. i have my name so i'm who i'm.
this is why peope think i'm difirent. (becouse i dont belong to anybody? :)) )

Thanx Your Freak

i think ya just tend to hang with those you have more in common with...

What we all need to remember is that these labels are usually adopted sometime in our adolescence. This is a time of hormonal insanity, confusion, angst and distrust. I think the label is needed to maintain a certain level of sanity, to bring us comfort. No matter what goes wrong, we are part of a group that we can blend into.

As we get older, some of us shed our labels and search for who we truly are, and others decide that the comfort a label brings is enough to keep them satisfied.

Yah, I dont find much labeling in college/univ..
probably cause we're all too busy trying to get the work done to even notice ;)

its true, people can fear what they dont know or like or even understand. I for one have friends of all sorts of "labels" i dont judge by a persons beliefs/choices/actions..if theyre a good person its all the same to me. if a person can open their mind and accept others then why cant others do the same for them? for example..im "goth" and wiccan, my ex boyfriend was on the highschool hockey team & catholic..and my college roomate is on the honor roll and an atheist and both are "prepS" you could say..haha thats life..you are what you are

Although it seems to ring true for most occasions, I am a freak and that is my label.
I do find myself sticking close to the the goths, freaks, and punks but it has never stoped me from becoming good friends with the "thugz", hommies, preps, rednecks, and sometimes even christians. I guess its just because I don't judge people because I don't want to be judged either.
~Dark~

My boss gave me a Gucci purse as a gift. How's that for a label ? ;)

I run around the thread with a reject stamp hitting you all in the forehed with it....now theres a label

I dont know I hung out with everyone in Highschool even though I was diff I got along with jocks, preps, the prom queens, rockers, nerds lol just about everyone.

I belive it's just human nature.(human nature sucks) You stick to what you know because learning about each other would kill some people. Every one knows that went to Highschool or that are in it that Highschool is just one big drama any way. I had a lot of different friends that hung out with different groups.

I agree highschool is nothing but drama..i just graduated and already im seeing people differently who i spent the last 4 years with..

It seems as though very few people are open minded enough to actually hang around with people who aren't under the same label...

And when they see people who do they don't understand...

I think it is important that you don't stay safe under your own label though... you can learn more than you think from people who aren't like you... it is interesting really, not to see one thing from only one point of view...

I hope that you understand what I'm trying to point out...

I dont stick to any one group i dont look at a person for being a jock or punk or goth i look at the person for who they are as a person

If I had a £ for everytime I've been asked of asked myself this I'd be bloody rich. *snores*

People are afraid of change, something that everyone is afraid of. If it doesn't fit the normal in any way shape or form, then they are not going to accept it or want to be around it in fear of it running off to them.

i think it's because people feel more comfuble hanging out people that is more like them than some who is not

it's all on what you think because it's your choice on who you be friends with if you like her thats fine no one is going to tell you that you cant be friends with her

Surely both scenes are a lot misunderstood,not referring to the posts,but to the people in general.

It's like a battle that will never end.

And want to add: You make your attitude not your friends!

I actually have friends in all areas, I am very open minded, and will befriend anyone who will allow me

It is importan to be open minded... open minded people are the luckiest one really... just wanted to comment that.

depends on the person n mainly how he thinks

well in my experience labels are mainly used to describe a persons appearance to someone else whithout going into much detail, but other than that to label oneself as something is completely rediculous, and I have freinds from varying social settings and all have their own looks whcih some would label as nerdy, goth or prep, they are all my friends becuse i started talking to them in class or whatever and found we had similar interests of course we had opposite interests but thats what makes our friendships exciting, hearing their points of view on life and whatnot or their theories on music.The only ppl i tend to have problems with is the rich people "preps" they always comment on my clothing andsay some remark like " o hes going to kill someone someday JUST BECAUSE OF HOW I DRESS, idiots, but anyways enough of my rambling.

I think that everyone should be able to be friends with anyone, and I believe everyone has that potential inside of them...

i hate labels, and people who are outcasted because of beieifs, looks, or thoughts, especially whan thay dont evan know tha person, and thay are just judging, i hate that...

Well open-mindness can be a curse cause everyone will think you're odd,or at least that's what happens to me,but this is another argument.

athnitegrl, I dont see how being open-minded can be a bad thing, even if it does make people view you differently.

Of course there are labels. Thats an age-old concept. but its usually the labels that make people make negative assumptions about an 'out-group' (a psychological definition of a group which s not their own) ad therefore stick to that group.

For example, if their are two teams playing a game, then one will tend to stick to that group, as tey hae a status and place within their group. Its more stable, and in a roup situation, knwledge of your place is often comforting, or at least that is what I have observed.

i don tmind who everyone is, i will hate them or like them not matter what their "label" is, its the person that matters not what their colour,race,label,religion,size,sex is!!!!

People are so close minded... I hate it. Just because someone is Goth doesn't mean they can't have a Preppy friend. My best friend, Jesse, is considered a Prep. I sometimes can't stand the Preps at my school because they make fun of me. But usually I don't have a problem with them.

I dont think that most pople really ave problems with others, its jus that society makes them think that they should have.

i do interact with people of other "labels" but its goths, rockers i get best along with. but im open to anything. its just you find that people of your label are more like you and have same interests. im generalising, i know but its the experience i have made so far

I grew up in a small town and your "label" was given to you at birth. When I say small, I graduated with 19 other people. I talked with people of various social cliques, but I was always the "strange, goth, witchy girl." It's what I got for being open with what I liked. It's a little less so in college, but it's still there. Thespians hang out with thespians, poly sci majors and minors talk...it's just easier to open up to someone when you already have a common interest such as your major or minor. I don't feel I'm being closed minded about not going out of my way to talk to a "preppy." My best friends in high school were "preppy." One ran track, played volleyball, did the chorus and band thing. The other was a little more hippie, but still "preppier" than I. To make a long ramble short, I don't think it's that I'm closed minded about meeting new people...just lazy about expanding my circle.

bcuz ppl r stupid and close minded and dont kno how to relate to others so they juss make fun of other ppl and stick w/ ppl w/ the same interest instead of getting to kno some one new...and possibly they r ignorant

Im very open minded... I fall into no genre... I listen to all types of music and hang out with all types of people... People that are open minded as well.... i swear the world would be a better place if people were just open minded all around

im not scared
i have prepy friends n gothic friends

I'm like CradleCountess, I don't fall into any one category. Labels are hard to put on people when not one will stick....

Most preps are too afraid they won't be accepted by their kind if the bridge out and are friends with many types of ppl. They might lose their popularity or something...WHAAA! And most of us "different" or "strange" ppl aren't interrested in being put down or shit apon, so we don't risk it.

I think labels give someone a sense of belonging, so many just want to find others that are like them that when they find a group of people of people similar they take on the label to feel as if they are not alone in there thought and ideas of the world. I never had a label simply because i am alot of different things.

I also think people are just afraid of not knowing. That is why they stick to the same. Me I have friends from all walks of life, i have a hippie, a goth, a prep and many others as friends. i think people label because they are to afraid they mey actually have something in common with someone who is way different then them.

All i can say is quit labeling, give it a chance. try to know something new. Hell who knows you may learn something.

I'm like elmers glue i stick to everything...lol
actually i don't have a label and refuse to be so i guess that's why i can get along with almost anyone.

im classed a goth and i jhang with wo bangers im the only one there who is different and that is fine

hum?

Exactly Echo I agree with you, you just explained it better.

What I meant is that when people of some group see you have different opions from theirs, they give you a negative labell,which doesn't necessary mean what they labell you is true,cause a labell is just a labell.

The example of the team was a very good one.It's like everyone is playing a game and sticks with that team but the game never finishes cause there are no winners or losers,it's just a matter of different opinions.

I think a really good plan would be if we all stopped moaning about it, went out there and made some friends :-)

I don't moan I just say what I feel, like I said in my first post:I've got friends of every culture,sexuality,race etc....

I didn't mean it personally at you deathnitegirl, I was just noticing how popular these threads are, and we never come to a comprehensive way to stop it.

Hehe ok:) However these threads aren't that bad in my opinion.It's just that some people have some questions or want to share opinions with others.Ok they become repetitive,I know,but there will be always new people who post :)

some people put labels on others cause they dont have the balls to be different themselfs

Exactly and some do it to feel better too.

Well I think it might be from fear that people wouldn't like us cause we act "different" so we tend to stay with people like "us".

i wear normal bright clothes i dont want to be a goth simply because i dont like the image.

i wear goth clothes and all u get is the dirty looks and the snide remarks, wot's up with them ppl. I'll dress how i like when i like!

Most are not afraid but think themselves to be superior

yes labels suck but I have friends of all color creed nationality and social standings

stupidity. People often label out of plain stupidity

it s by stupidity and cupidity people have fear of what they dont know

some ppl r just affraid of change and i freak ppl out b/c im a goth and pegan

i have alot of different groups of friends that are all different kinda of "labels" i guess if you want to call it that. and i am not sure what label im under.

Labels make ppl feel like they fit...Screw labeling...Am I a person or an item of clothing?

i dont really feel that labels matter. personally i have many friends who really dont have shit in common with me. i.e. their christian, i'm a militant orthodox atheist chaote. i'm typically the only shaved head-all black wearing goateed guy in the group...not to mention one of the only smokers in the group(cigs, not weed). so i dont think it really matters. however. human nature naturally needs to feel "apart of something" or to be "comforted" by something. i.e. the christians taking comfort in the existence of "god", or the goths needing to feel together in a group and be able to say "it's us vs them"
truth is, people like, and need conflict, and a "label" allows for that.
-in chaos

Well i guess they dont wannna see the others diffrences maybe the're too close minded who knows.....

i think everyone needs a "group" to identify with.. to feel accepted, loved, understood, etc.. but to let a mindset rule that particular group as to the degradation of others is wrong... but i doubt the world will ever change, so i just roll with the tides and befriend those that are honest and tend to look past whatever society may look upon them as..

Yes exactly everyone needs to be in a group to feel accepted,part of something,helped and protected when in need.

But then there are also those who prefere to stay alone,since they feel part of no group like I used to be.

I think instinctively Humans tend to believe in-safety in numbers.I personally don't enjoy the physical company of humans much so i choose solitude more often than not,but i don't choose this because i feel like i don't belong i choose it because most humans i have met are quite stupid and closeminded individuals...

hmm...well i dont really like being part of a "group" ...but i do occasionally enjoy the company of other people...and since i'm in school, where we're all stuck in a "cage" for much of our day, it just...gradually ...happens that the person that i talked to in gym class last year will be in my math class along with the person that i associated with during lunch the previous year...and BAM...there we have it, a group.

continuous compilation like that...over the course of the many years that i have been in the same school system, leads to a sort of "clique" ...which is really just formed of the people that i have found myself to be able to tolerate, as well as the people that they have been able to tolerate.

I dont see it as anything more sinister than that.

if i were to change school systems...i would probably meet someone at the new school...who had a group of people that they had found themselves to tolerate...and that would, more than likely, at first at least, become my new "group"
even if i wasn't immediately fond of everyone in it...i would probably initially be polite in order to avoid upsetting the person that i'd found tolerable.

again...i dont think it's a desperate need for acceptance...just a way to battle boredom..the mind numbing tedium of...most of life...

who is afraid of label differences? are you afraid? there is nothing to beware of, love everyone.

I hate labeling any where and the more people do it the more normal it seems to the next generation
and yes there are alot of cheerleaders I dont like for the fact that everyone I have met thinks they are better tham me because in their words I am goin to hell and have no morals

I think we are all afraid (to some degree) of rejection, both from strangers and those we revere alike. If you go into a new group, will they accept and will the people who are supposed to be your friends now still like you when you make new friends? This is to be conquered. As if your old friends are true friends they always will be and you never know who would be new friends til you try.

all labels are the same in their own little way yes some of us have different oppions of each other and some of us stick with different groups but who are we really we are nobody's i think anymore cause all we do is fight and argue that is it so why take sides with each other just stick with each other there is already a war going on and we don't need anymore

Yes exactly Cadamia true friends will like you the way you are not the way you appear or your bank account.

i think it is another prouble of the weak minded ..... really i think it is i mean it is like what they say fear the un familar ...... i am one that can say i do not suffer from this proublem..... i was excepted into all prepyness and i was with one of the biggest jocks yet i still hang out with what people would call goths i mean we are all the same in some ways really we are

I think that labels are tools for people that need to make then selfs feel better about them selfs.This way they can feel what a sick society calls normal.