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has anybody heard of the act of psy-feeding ever leaving any notable marks on their host?

i had an episode only lately were i inflicted a physical wound on a person, such as a reddening bruise when i have concentrated my intake..

was wondering if anyone had any imput to this..as i do not wish to physically harm any i feed from in this manner, purely because i use it to avoid such marking...

yes well, thankyou.

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I am a psy vampire and I can say that I have never left a visual mark on anyone. The only physical thing that has been seen are on the ones that have made me angry and I have intentionally (yes I know it is wrong but everyone does things that are wrong from time to time) taken quite a bit from them. Even then the only thing that is seen is the fact that they are very badly lacking energy. I think the worst case with me was I drained a person to the point of making her physically ill, she couldnt even get out of bed and all she did was sleep, not even having the energy to eat. When I am angry I tend to not be able to control what I do in this type of situation. I don't personally see how draining someone of enegy could leave a visual marking. Granted I dont know everything and there is much in the world that we dont have the answers to.



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i have never done it myself but i have some firends who have noticed slight dicoloration in the skin if the pressure is too much and not controled



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no i have never heard of that and i dotn really see how a phsi vamp could...... hmmpp im stumped good thread :)



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I have been left with marks from a pys feeder. But it was with my permission. Not sure about people that are unaware. I now I felt it when it happened.



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You know this may be one of those things that depends on the person.. I mean I have fed on the willing, unwilling, aware, and unaware , and none of them ever left a mark. Perhaps this is simply based on the person.. I mean maybe if a person bruises easily they would have a mark of some kind. I dont really know it was just a suggestion and input.



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this is a new one.....i never heard of psy vamps leaving any mark on their preys....



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In my case I was actually being touched and the places where the fingers were touching me had bruises even though there wasn't much pressure. I don't normally bruise easily but it was an intense feeding.



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This is a new thing for me as well.

But sometimes I find certain scars that I don't know from where they came from,....



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I've never known a psy vamp even needing to touch their prey to feed. That sounds absolutely silly to leave a mark.



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I've never left a mark on anyone, but then i've never needed to physically touch.
However i can understand that some people who may have problems latching on to a victim would need to, to break through a persons shields easier.

Normally the only physical reaction in a person is fatigue or the feeling of "being drained" and yes, i've been on the recieving end of an energy drain before, so i know what it feels like, which is why i try not to take too much if i do it to someone else.



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I think this is more of a case of someone giving their "prey" a hickey and then claiming that they were "feeding on their energy"



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I've never heard of this happening before, but I suppose it could be possible. If you're looking for an answer with your specific case, a more detailed description of the feeding might help.



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Perhaps some weird quirk of feeding happened, perhaps you consentrated to hard on a single spot to pull the energy from the person. If anything, how do you feed and how did you feed from this person?

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i havent heard of it before but i can imagine it happening.



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As a general rules, humans wouldn't have an issue with it because they restore what is lost in time. The danger comes when you take too much, or take it too fast, or all from one spot.

Energy surrounds the host, feel free to dip from different spots, this will help keep your host safer in the long run, because they won't be forced to send all the new energy to one spot.

That can cause (like when blood rushes to a spot) a flow over ... which isn't too good for the host, though you could enjoy it..



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scares are left but not a conventional scar as in flesh but a scar is left in some way or another from a feeding



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I do believe that this type of feed is possible but not at all impossible, ppl who have strong psychic abilities of telekensis can have that type of out come. Its not unheard of.

But I myself have left not scaring or brusing on my prey but more or less a spiritual/energy mark on them so that they either have the need to see me or that i can find them later if i need to... Its kinda like tagging my prey for later useage/feedings.

But no I have never left a physcal marking or bruse on my prey.



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ive never heard of it before but i guess if you concentrate hard enough then the rush of energy from the one spot could leave a mark on the one thats drained



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sorry for my absence,

in regard to the particular method of feeding in which this occured... there was no physical contact.

rather, i am sorry i do not know particular terms, the flow was a single 'tendril', and the 'unaware' person recieved a particularly nasty bruise on the back of the neck.. where i was concentrating the flow...

thank you for everyones imput so far, it has been quite interesting to read.

daeg.



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your welcome



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yes indeed i have and they are called *rosettes*


Mark left behind when a vampyre feeds. Rosettes are often small and round in shape and range from red to purplish in color. They look somewhat like hickies but are usually lighter in color and more consistent in shape. The rosettes left by blood vampyres will typically have the small cut made in the donor's skin located somewhere in their center. Energy and psi-vamps sometimes leave these marks behind as well, although there is no obvious cut located within the mark.



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ya if herd of it my moms friend has a daughter who one day got these bite marks on her neck that turned into scars



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no ive never left any pshysical scars/marks on people

i take little amounts from many people instead



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I have never heard of a case where a psi vampire leaving any marks on a person.
I don't leave any marks on a person when I'm done feeding off from that person. The only time I leave marks would only be bite marks from playing with the person if they would let me leave a mark on them. :)



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I would assume that on some level of psi vampirism there are those that actually need to touch their source. The only thing I can figure in if that is in your case then you were phsysically causing it.



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i dont really know a whole lot of psy vamps. its hard enough to find someone who even knows fiction from reality.



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In this World, and in this lyfe, with beliefs here and there, everything is totally possible. lol even in an anime, fma, they had a bit on were maybe if we studied alchemy instead of machines we'd be alchemists. So i'd say, hell yeah it could most defintly been a psy vamp--



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Perhaps it was to much of a draw from the person. Some times there is a limit the body can release energy, wether given or taken. Just like blood, there is only so much the body can pump out at once, if to much is pushed out, then expect damage to that part of the body.

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I have not heard of a psy feed causing physical markings, I'd agree with Evangius that physical touch and too much pressure would cause marks and not the feed itself.

When a clairvoyant is fully open and working, physical damage can be caused to them if a sudden noise or touch occurs, but that is due to their sensitivity rather than the action itself.

I would also say to Shadow that being a pure empath you would not 'feed', empaths tend to be the ones 'feel' and sometimes will be overcome by the emotions of others. One can be empathic with other traits so Id say Kai baby u have more than one string to that scrummy bow of yours

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From personal experience, I have to say that strong psy's *Can* leave marks, though most of the time, the -way- they feed is the one object that does not leave a mark.

If one feeds in mist, then no mark.
If one feeds in webbing, it can cause a mark.

I have left a few marks from feeding. I have fed so strongly that the donor (bless them) left like someone had thrown a heavy rock to the back of their head. I apologised naturally, but it did not diminish the lump he had gained, nor his want to sleep afterwards.

Intensely feeding can result in formation of wound, scarring or bruises. Obviously it can.... How do you think Magic works?

Same principles for energy manipulation.

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I would think marks such as that would be a sign of the dnor fighting back, and injuring himself more so than you injuring them- but if the donor is willing, why would they fight? is it an unconcious thing?



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i reallly dont know as i am young still in the acts myself but although you cant see it energy is still an object and i guess if pulled hard enough out or pushed hard enought in i suppose it could leave marks yes



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I have read it a couple of times and spoken to someone well informed who believes that it is possible, but, not a permanent scar.

The most discussed 'scars' are those upon the energy system itself- too deep or prolonged a feed can take much longer to recover from, especially if its repetative feeding over a course of many months.

The end result of which can be a form of 'sympathetic vampyris' as it's termed, where a non-vampyric doner loses so much of their own energy that they too need to take from another to replenish themselves.



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I've heard of it on a couple occasions, but it's rare.



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I agree with others in that the most apparent physical symptoms are usually, flu-like symptoms, aches, inner lethargy, fatigue and the like.

Physical markings however I have never experienced physically.



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you physically harmed your friend through it?
You must feel very guilty.



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there is something most people simply ignore when talking about psy's
if one can psy feed....then you have already accessed the ability to use psychic power in some degree of ability
someone with some latent telekinetic talent who is feeding may well leave a mark....especially if they are unknowledgable about their other abilities.....whereas a pyrokinetic may leave an area sensitive like though it were sunburnt.
so yes it is entirely possible...



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Good points Daermon. When reading through the thread I was looking at it just from a psi point of view and the possiblities of the marks being left by the feeding alone or by a physical touch and not taking into concideration the possible connection to other/secondary abilities that might be unknowingly have been active at the time.



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agree nice piont ~~ Daermon ~~



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I myself have not seen it, but anyone who pratices psi vampirism, or witchcraft knows, with ebnough concentration, a physical scar very well could happen. It worls on the same principal of those who can bend a spoon by looking at it, or move a salt shaker at will. It's all about how the mind attaches itself to the subject.



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I have only had a mark left on me once when I was being a host to a psi. I know that he had taken too much on that occasion. As he was still learning to control himself. He hadn’t touched me during the feeding and there was a purple round mark on the back of my neck. I always figured it was just some sort of bruise left from the way I was resting or maybe he had held me after I was so drained I can now hardly remember what had happen after.



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This is an interesting post. To the best of my knowledge, an intense psy-feeding from one concentrated spot can leave a rosette, but it shouldn't permanently scar their physical body.



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I am of the opinion that the physical body is much more connected to the spiritual body than we, at first, believe. If there is a high concentration of energetic activity, such as during a 'feed', I'm sure there is bound be a mark.



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the flow of to much energy in any area will creat heat. to much flow in a wall outlet will make heat and start a fire. a micowave oven is a lot of energy in a small area, EMF, that will cause redness or burning. why does this not make sence to some?



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i honestly never heard of someone feeding by psy leaving a physical wound on the host....i know me personally ive never inflicted a wound by feeding on psy...sang then yes...but psy im gonna have to say no....but to reduce the risk of it possibly happening....i saw a few people say move to different spots....thats a great idea...



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or be a gentle feeder...
all living things give off ambient energy as we produce more than we ever need....
drawing lightly off all the ambience in an area instead of actively targeting on individual does work...it is harder to do...but far less invasive



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ive never heard of that, could some please explain?



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Very confused....eh...psy vamp ish energy feeder, right? So no physical contact, so how could that be possible? Not quite getting this one. Never heard of this. Maybe they are allergic? o.0



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kewl comments



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The physical contact in my case was not because of the feeding, we just happened to be touching. But because I share with this person a connection on many levels (physical, mental, and spiritiual), when we do touch energy that passes between us seems to focus at the site of the touch. That is the only time I have been left with a bruise and the only time there was a physical contact at the time of feeding. I have been left with bruises and left bruises when we have "played" with energy with each other through touch also, and now because of that there is a hands off policy when feeding.



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i dont believe ive ever heard of it sorry



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thank you once again for everybody's imput, there are a lot of interesting ideas and possibilities here.

after posting this topic and hearing your thoughts, i confronted this particular donor about this episode. without disclosing too much detail about her, she is a regular accquaintance as she attends my school and knows little of this feeding practice.

i believed she was unaware as to my feeding being the reason for this particular mark and had previously confessed her lethargy in the days that followed our encounter..

it was in our recent conversation that she told me that she was opposing my psy attack conciously. my clumsy attack had raised her defenses and she bore the bruises..

though i wonder, why was it not me who had been injured? surely, if i was attacking and met stronger opposition, it should have been i who bore the bruises??

i don't know.
thank you again for your posts, each and every one has been a grand contribution.

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There are many ways in which to counter a psy attack or feed, not all have to attack directly back.

Some could simply sever your connection or deflect it onto another, or perhaps she did retaliate and you don't know what the effects were. What was sent back to you might not neccessarily be the same as you did to her.

At any rate, have you considered the ethical implications of your actions?

How do you feel about invading another persons being?



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When you are attacked you firght back with what you know best, that is yourself. And if you are smart you do it on familar ground, again yourself. She might just have been blocking you the best she could at the site where she felt it the strongest. Kind of like you feel in insect biting you and you hit it hard enough to actually bruise yourself.



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i havent heard of it before



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Never heard of it but sounds interesting.



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brokenheartedfallenangel
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I've heard of this before..... but never caused one or seen one.



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daeg
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on ethical grounds, i have to boldy confess that i have little conscience for a stranger's health. it is considered somewhat unethical and inconsiderate, though i hold little respect for my self let alone..

though, as she was a dear friend i did hold some concern being that psy feeding rarely inflicts physical wounds, and like many i use it as an alternative to such in inappropriate situations..

daeg.



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Being that have not experienced this, I can't say one way or the other. Upon reading the thread, however, The consensus seems to fall along the lines of the markings being highly possible.

It does seem that the mind and psyche are capable of many things. Being more aware of their capabilities and their senses, I would think that psy vamps could definately leave a physical mark of some sort.



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It all depends on who your biting and how long you bite them but i havnt had it happen yet.



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I dont think it does, iv never encountered such a thing, but ill do some research and get back to u



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DhampirPrince
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I'm a dhampir. And I psy feed. Let me clear this up now. If you feed deep enough, a bruise is left. And no matter how lightly you feed, it'll leave a whole in the persons aura.



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DhampirPrince
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that should be "hole". sorry.



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jdenoyon
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It sounds very plausible to me! Energy truly is a physical thing, though it's not usually seen, and there is such a strong link among the mind/psyche/body...



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i have never heard of psy vampyres leaving marks or such, but i have heard of those who were able to using the power of their mind...could be the smae, could not be..but i wouldnt be closed minded to it for one can not fully know the limits of the power within ourselves



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CuRsEdToDaRkNeSs
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I dont know how to answer this question still and I have actually thought about it since I posted the first time. I will just have to keep an eye out and see if I ever do it.... hmmm. *ponders*



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Kagome1692
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ya know, perhapes physical marks are left because you drew out too much energy too fast?? I don't know, but it's possible. I personally addmitt, that I am not a psy feeder, so I really can't give you any playsible evidence... sorry



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Though not very familure w/ psy. vampires. During reaserch I came across a
form of psy vampire from the far east.
A sucupis known as a Cheyhanna.
Believed to feed from their victom by stealing life forece (chi) through sexual
fornication . draining the victom to near death. or even killing them.
thay also have been said to steal their victoms breath wile they sleep.
I was never able to determin wether a Cheyhanna was avamp or a lower form of demond...



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raziel
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see i don't believ in psy feed ing its tottally absurd, in the wiccan religion it is possible to drain some ones's life force, un physically, i guess i don't believe in vampyrism, cause witches are the only possible explanation of psychic ability and has been more realisticly described in history



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from what i have seen, the best way to bruise a victim is to do it to forcefully.



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daeg
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true Kabal, true.

perhaps it was my fault.
daeg.



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DarkVampiress
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I have never heard of it, but I guess it could be possible. It does take force to get what you feed off of.



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i live with 2 psis and while i have never heard of such a thing or experienced it myself i have no difficulty imagining it is possible and in some cases even likely



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I've never left a physical mark. I've drained people a bit to make them tired. But other than that...



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Never heard of it leaving a mark but of course I drink blood so Ive never had a psy experience.



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Maybe a new vamp with the need for physical contact to drain energy . In that case it would be the force more than the feed .



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sqweakz
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im not sure if they leave marks



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Emaerald
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Nothing personal Daeg, but please would you mind using the forum search facility prior to creating a thread? Psy threads have been discussed so frequently and you may find the information you need by conducting a search :) Thankyou.



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