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Thought crossed my mind as I was reading profiles and perusing portfolios. How many people on this site believe themselves to be in the classic sense of the word a "Vampire"? IE: Sustained on "blood" or "psychic" energy alone. I myself realize that I am in the world of a "persona" and this is all for entertaiment.

I too wondered how many can talk the talk....but cant walk the walk

I've noticed that a fair few of these people that claim to be vampires, and claim to have lived for centuries, can't spell or use grammar.
You'd think these people would pick up these simple things in their many years of life...

Like memnoch said and I want also to add that most of the time they are contradictory.

They say they are ___years old and then that, they were born ___BC.

At least if you want to play the immortal part don't show your true age.

I was called stupid cause I found this as condratictory,at least I use punctuation even tough English is not my native language.

At least if they are that old they should have heard about punctuation and know the existance of the word:polite.

I for one know I am not a vampire nor have I claimed to be one. I do know people that are really vampires, and the most interesting thing I have to say about them is that in MOST cases to look at them you would never have a clue. They are not Goth to the nth degree or even at all. They do not go out of their way to make it known to people that they are vampires. They do not hide it but they do not publish it either. It is only when you get to know them that the vampiric traits come out.

I have always said about any one, if they have to tell you what they are, they probably aren't it anyways. If they really are it would show when you get to know them.

My thoughts...... do you think I am a vampire? If so, please explain why. If not, please explain why. Can you prove or disprove that I am or am not? Can you prove or disprove that vampires even exist? These are the questions that allow me to be who and what I am, or am not. So now that I have left the mystery hang out there, feel free to wonder. LOL.

~ ~ ~ Immortal Colors ~ ~ ~
A human wonders the COSMOS, thus leaving behind a myriad of colors.
In patterns reminiscent of Abstract.
Those, who search for the path, are traversing this way and that.
In patterns reminiscent of Renaissance.
Those who carry the virtues, flow in ways leaving in there
Wake, a blank canvas through which there color does shine.
We are bound beyond the COSMOS, our movements,
Leave behind nothing our canvas is dark it forever
Remain blackness to those who do not see.
DkillR Dec 05

Memnoch, my profound thanks on your accurate observation concerning simple spelling and grammar. The bleeding in my eyes has slowed somewhat.

I must warn the unfortunate reader that what follows will at time be tangential because my feelings and thoughts on this subject threaten a torrent of responses. I am trying to restrain this torrent hence the rambling.

Fenrir's initial question is a good one though for some the answers they give could prove to be their undoing. That is the beauty of the Game we play. We walk the knife's edge each moment.

I and others here are long time members of long established communities elsewhere. Some of us are what might be termed "Elders". What I have found here is an almost all pervasive obsession with death. But it is not confined to that obsession or, perhaps a better word would be fascination for death that has captivated sentient beings for eons. Whereas death for many artists has been a source of inspiration that had the empowering effect of demanding that the observer feel the sheer power of LIFE, in many places here I see decay, morbidity and death wishes. In the communities elsewhere, the covens or Houses are much more intimate and so we have the opportunity to get to know one another and to have the opportunity to more easily express individuality. Please do not take this to mean that the majority here are death worshipping toadies. I have met many interesting beings that I feel are vampyres in the best sense of the concept. But I have read posts that are frankly startling. Perhaps some have written these apparently distubing sojourns into their psyche for shock value. However, the odds that all have done so are astronomical.

There is a person whom I could almost feel her heart beat in hunger as she rhapsodized about a serial killer who considers himself a vampyre. The person writing this paean to a mass murderer is but 15 years of age. I have never encountered this before. Yes, I confess I am fascinated by the mind of the serial killer, the mass murderer, the Mafia button man. I have and still do study the Sicilian Mafia with great aplomb. I peruse the case histories of the world's most depraved killers. But I have the wit to realise that I do not wish to be as these people are. I grew up very close to elements of the Mafia. I have seen the life.
I find much of the Mafia rather appealing because of omerta. Having said this, do I want to BE a made man? There is no question that I do NOT wish it.
Serial killers are even more of a puzzle because while the traditional Mafia does not kill except for punishment within its Families or as retribution for a wrong done to them, serial killers are simply depraved beings who kill innocents. These people I have encountered here who think serial killers are cool would micturate in the physical presence of an actual murderer.

So many who label themselves "vampyre" constantly prattle about the angst of living and the desire to end it all. If you are a vampyre then you have the gift heightened existence. I daresay that the vampyre may be the next step in the evolution of humanity. If one can accept that premise - and I believe a strong minority here just might then it stands to reason that the vampyre has the capability to make positive change to the mileu in which she exists and rails against. Instead of slinking back to your black veils and coffins, seize life and live it on your terms! I posit that those who have done great things are those who have been given a taste of vampyric existence.

I respect that for Fenrir this is for entertainment. I certainly have been entertained and I wager that my musings have entertained others. For others, vampyre is what we are. The questions becomes then "what are we?" I cannot imagine living with these gifts; with the ability to see beyond the mundane and desire to end it in in a self inflicted bloody death.

To those whom have the fascination for the macabre, I say this: keep learning and do not abandon that interest. But, you are VAMPYRE; you are POWER; you are LIFE. Do not allow the fascination to destroy the beautiful being you are!!

well..i don`t qualify myself as a vamp since i love sun bathing and never got burned:P hehe however i just happen to have an interest in these things and enjoy being here..;)

I never claim to be anything other then myself ..whatever that makes "me" ;) life is a vampire if you think about it .it sucks you dry ..charges you up .etc :)

I do not claim to be a vampier in life but am interested in learning about them. I do believe that there are some who are real and have real thirst for blood.

i dont compare myself to vampyres in the mythological sense

Vlad..Well said.

My thoughts those who shout loudest often know the least. As for what i think i am... Well Im just a whacky brit chick and thats all anybody needs to know about me. As Lamia said there are many who talk a good talk . Then there are those who have to be a bit of everything eg Vamp druid sanguine otherkin... :grins: I dont worry too much about what youngsters wrote. Having two teenagers of my own i have to say these days in such a violent world is it any wonder their imagination stretches to thee things. I used to fantasis about being a princess then a female action man, i used to be violent tin other ways i suppose going scrumying ((pinching apples from farmers))i didnt need an outlet because i was allowed to ''play out'' . A lot of kids are confined to their houses after school due to parental fears of exposure to drugs etc . SO hence i tend to not worry about a lot of the ''shock'' element i find around here. EMO's are the in thing to be now...all suicidal and death abound.. Most will be just crowd pleasers, some will perhaps die by accidental suicide. Different era different problems. It was glue sniffing when i was a teen. I always say to my kids i wouldnt want to be living my teens in this day and age its a shit enough time as it is without all the rstictions they have these days. Hell even sex is a no no for most due to aids etc. My generation at least only had to worry about your average std lol. We could still experiment and use our freedom to explore ourselves. Maybe this medium is all these kids have.
Anyway thats just my viewpoint as a mum . Hope i dont sound to preachy i was just expressing my viewpoint. :grins cheekily.. Oh and i know my spelling sucks mainly because my fingers cant type as quickly as my thoughts flow through this warped and twisted brain of mine. So apologies

I think it was an interesting question. I would like to see an answer from the target audience. I've been here long enough to know that most who really live the lifestyle doesn't need to make such claims.

I think the intrusion into peoples lives has had an impact. Every day, people are recorder on at least half a dozen CCTV cameras whenever the go outside their home. At least, thats the case in the UK.

We have digital TV which knows what you watch. You have 'store' and credit cards that know what you buy and then there is your registrations for everything or you can't get credit and it's even a struggle to get out of the country now.

This seems to have caused a dramatic shift in peoples behaviours. They seem almost docile, until a weekend night of beer. And more people spend their time indoors now, leaving only when neccessary and even, can get their groceries delivered to their home now.

I go to the parks and they are all virtually empty. I remember twenty years ago- Yes, I am that old, when every kid in my estate would be in the local park- the only place that has any life now are the skate parks- kudos to Tony Hawks, Matt Hoffman and the rest of the so called 'X' generation for that, but, my point is, it waould be unsurprising to find such a being as a vampyre living in a non-descript personae. If they do exist, I am absolutely certain that somebody, somewhere, who are their enemies, know it too. And perhaps even know where some live and how they live their lives.

This is one concern I tried to raise with certain others elsewhere on the net and I was met with total and utter silence. nobody wants to face the fact that if their lives are real, then the hunters are real also. But, with an image to remake in asn insane world of war, disease and 'terror', it's a time to keep quiet, sort it out and prepare, IMO.

Thats just basic tactics.

Hmm...A multilayered question. A VR vampire? Seems rather a "done deal" (vampire board, vampire topics, etc.). A "living" (pardon the pun) vampire? As in an undying creature surviving for aeons and feeding exclusively on the blood/energy of other creatures? Ot the Hollywood variant of same? *takes a large bite of the heavily garlic spiced, well done steak on his plate* Not so much. I have no interest in becoming immortal...my 30 odd years haven't been so thrilling. Adding another few thousand? Pass.

Dweller

Vampires??

Do you mean to tell me there are REAL VAMPIRES on line?

No, Fangor, he is pulling your leg.

Memnoch, I love the post. You are so right on that score. If I have to read one more profile in which the person writes at total of three lines about themselves and includes the fact that they are well over 300 years old, are the ultimate evil on the planet, live entirely off of blood and can do everything but walk on water and pulll rabbits out of thin air, all while mispelling every other word, I think I will scream.

I know we all mispell words from time to time for various reasons, but you really would think that an ancient and immortal vampire of a respectable age of 510 would know how to spell things like darkness or believe or in some cases even death or as it was spelled in the profile last night "I luv daeth. Ded things r Kool".

*smacks her head against the keyboard*

I have never claimed to actually be a vampire. I'm just really interested in learning more about them.

I personally have never met a person who was wholly sustained on blood or energy. A romantic notion, but physically impossible.

I enjoy my time here on VR because there are many intelligent, artistic people sharing their thoughts and work in a fairly open-minded environment. That is what appeals to me - the heightened appreciation of beauty and the excitement of making a connection with another being.

But to say I am immortal, fly around the room and drink blood? Let's just say I wouldn't be typing here, I'd be on the way to a nice padded room. *grins*

Vlad, since you are family and since I always love reading your posts for the simple fact that they are always well spoken and well thought out, I am going to forgive any rambling and long windedness.

*grins*

Wonderful post as aways brother.

And to finally answer the original question as well....no I do not believe I am a vampire in the "classical" sense of the word.

I am not immortal. I need to regularly eat and drink, sleep, exercise and all those other day to day things in order to survive just like any other person.

I don't spontaniously combust when I walk out in the sunlight (it does bother the hell out of my eyes, but then that's nothing out of the ordinary for a lot of perfectly normal human beings)

I have a reflection in the mirror, though being I am in my early 40's there are times I might not mind if that wasn't the case, because it is a constant reminder that I am in fact mortal and aging appropriately for one. I would think an immortal vampire would not be finding new grey hairs everyday true?

I love garlic and use it in my cooking frequently.

I most certainly don't live just off the blood or energy of my "victims."

No I think it is safe to say that the way I would describe myself is a human being just like the rest with vampyric traits or tendancies. Not at all the classic definition, but the most accurate I would think.

*runs off to go stand in front of the mirror and practice turning into fog or a bat or a wolf or a rat or some other cliched vampire stereotype and realizes that since she can see herself in the mirror, it's probably a lost cause*

That last was sarcasm by the way for those who might not be able to understand that.

[sarcasm] I am 10,000 yrs old. I drink blood. I hate the Sun. I love the ded. Being ded iz kewl. My name is (insert stereotypical name666). You peopel suk. I am a god. I hate my parentz. Blah, blah blah, etc, etc, etc. [/sarcasm]

Seriously folks, its one thing to live the "lifestyle", but if you're going to make claims, you better be able to back it up. I got my start back in the late 70’s (went as a Bella Lagosi type Dracula for Halloween). I've been into the Horror Genre since the late 60's early 70's. As far as "living the lifestyle" I started back in the mid to late 80’s (which is as long if not longer than most of the profiles I've read).

I do however believe in the other kin and reincarnation, and I have also been told that I am an "old soul".

That should read "old cranky soul" dear.

*disclaimer; my previous post is my opinion and does not come from nore reflect the views, practices, and opinions of the management*

I have met REAL vampyres but never an immotal it just seems strangeto me that there would be one excpet fo rmaybe lilith and kain and even then i dont know for sure that they are all alive

I'm a valued member to the vampyre community, as far as I'm told. I've been awakened into the condition for the past five years and I'm a primary sanguine feeder. Yet, I do have methods of pranic ingestion and psy drawing when needed.

- Sin

Vlad Memnoch and El have made posts that I for one can't disagree with.

As Vlad stated we come from another place where things are done differently, but we too have the ones who talk it but don't walk it.

Whilst here we have been somewhat more oen than usual as this place seems to be one of a more informative nature. What irks me however is, that if one reads many of the threads here, there is a wealth of information that so many seem to just skim over, are unable or unwilling to undertsand and insist of putting a relpy that detracts rather than adding anything.

There is a plethera of information all over the internet that relates to 'real' vampires, Elyria has posted many links to these places, and the 'realness' of said Vampires is explained over and over again.

Perhaps it would be a help if some, who still feel confused as to the difference between fact and fiction and can't fathom the answers from the information here, went to look at some of the other sites available.

If one just wishes to be here for entertainment or becasue they find the subject a fascinating one, I don't see any problem with that., in the same way that not all those who KNOW they are rea won't bust a gut to prove anything to anyone.

True kindred know anyway *grins( or so I'm told.....

*looks at old soul Ash and retints his grey roots.*

I can talk it...walk it...prove it...just go to my page. What i will not claim is immortality or some other outlandish crap.
I am what i am...how you see me...may not be how others do...it's always a lose...lose situation as no one can sit here and change the world.

I've seen other kindred on here...just as well as plenty who are not. You'll have that anywhere ya go as well as any site you may find.

I could write a book on wannabe's. But no I'm my own self and I do not profess to be something I am not. Basically I don't live in a fairytale world.

Ive had a poll on here about vampyre posers and its interesting to see how many people actually think that just drinking blood and saying theyre a vampyre makes them one.

"i like vampyres cuz they are like so awesome and stuff. and im a wicken so that gives me skils to be a vampyre"

"im here because goth boyz are like so sexxy"

ugh...just...ugh.

about the only people i'd believe are really vampires are the well-studied and well-versed optimists. and only those who don't say they're lestat reincarnated or they've been alive for thousands of years...gimme a break!

take off the cape, turn off the cure album, and put out the clove. seriously. just admit that you're emo and go away :)

well i do claim to be a vampyre for the sole reason that i have a condition that the only sustance that doesnt tear up my stomach and gives me the nurishment that i cant get from food is blood.
now i will tell anyone who clains to be so many years old...hey in a sence we are all ancient..depending on if you believe in reincarnation or not..but in this life i am on 24 and will die and move on..just like others...vampyres do not lives in their one form forever..sorry if you think so you really should talk to someone about that...
everything dies and everything is born again..so says my religion

I am still learning about who or what I am. I've had many changes take place within my life in the past year.

I do know that I can feed off another person's energy even if they are in another state.

Do I drink blood? Yes, when I can but I don't have to have it.

So basically, I guess I don't claim to be anything other than myself... whatever that may be.

*grins at TyeDyeGoddess*

"take off the cape, turn off the cure album, and put out the clove"

Hey now...I smoke cloves, occationally listen to the cure, and might wear a cape if the occation called for it. ( I think I have worn a cape three times in my life lol. Once in a high school play, once as part of a halloween costume and once to a renn faire. Does that make me a bad person or a poser vamp?)

*laughs*

I do refer to myself as "vampire" because I can and do psi feed, and I have what I suppose you could call sanguine tendencies...as in I do drink blood, but not with any great frequency, and certainly not as a way to sustain my life.

Of course I also don't think I am immortal or undead, or that I can live solely on blood or energies I take from others. I don't think I am any of a hundred silly things I hear a lot of those who call themselves vampires say is something you must do or must be to be a true vampire.

For me being a Vampire is a state of mind, a lifestyle. I drink blood because I enjoy the texture and taste, I cannot however sustain myself solely upon it. Also, I agree with the punctuation thought. Please, if you are 2000 years old you would have much better punctuation and grammer. I highly doubt you would be attending this site, as well.

have an interest in vampires, but not real keen on the blood. do not want to get the ninja. but 2000 years old, yes and much older than that--souls are immortal. that means they are forever and ever. on this earthly plane no, but somewhere we will always be.

Well Saint, I agree with you on the old souls part. If you believe in reincarnation and the fact that a soul will not die with the body but continue to exist, moving on to a new life or a new plane of exisitance then certainly there are people who could, in terms of soul age, be thousands of years old. But there are some around here (and any other online vampire site I have seen) who run about telling people that in this life, in this body they have existed for hundreds or even thousands of years. I think it is safe to say that that is the sort of people being referred to in the other posts.

...and yet again, ignore the freaking typos please.

*reads through the replies*

NOW This is the type of replies I was looking for.

Those who lived the lifestyle and have before "it was cool". Some of you recall the pre-interview flick days.

One person mentioned a medical condition with which I'm familiar.

Others have openly admitted they are what they are, and if you don't like it, lump it.

And I tend to respect people who can give a rebuttal with out using a bunch of expletives in the process. I also realize that (for the most part) we're NOT here to "make others happy" with our answers.

I am also going to state that I myself am in no way the “ultimate authority or expert” in said field.

Lets clear this out.(this goes to a certain member,you know who you r)
Im not a vampire, I dont believe in their existence.
Now in my pro in the born section I write 1800 b.c before lies.
A logicall and a smart person could understand that it is not my birth age but it is the era I wish I had born and the before lies part has a religious background that I dont want to discuss it in the current thread.
Now a certain member visited my pro and make me THE question,if you were born 1800bc,how can you be 30 years old??
I use hard language cause the question had a sarcastic background,Im 30 years old not a 12 year old kid.
If you wanted to know you could just message me not writing this nonsense in my pro and my portfolio

sometimes i cant spell , i always see people badmouthing or saying crap about that....i mean who really cares? does it bother people that bad to make snotty comments. i know i dont give a damn who can speak right or who can spell right. if it bugs you, than by all means.....take time and teach us bad spellers to spell.......lol. (oh no rude comments please, after all i dont go back and read if anyone comments on my comment)

Rlfmao well if you posted that in response to my comment on the typos posted earlier....that was a post regaring my own typos and not anyone elses.

See...I did it again. Typonese is my second language.

Well at school I was taught English:)

well this is pretty interesting stuff.

funny thing, this one guy said he had lived for 3000 years, so when i asked him how is that possible, he said:

simple. i was born as a son of the pope's brother

the funny thing is, 3000 years ago there was no such thing as a pope


o well as for next thing
prolly 1% or less is actually what they claim to be

ive always wondered if there really is such a thing as vampires...
im not to sure weather people on here are pretending or just really telling the truth...
i don't think i will really really deep down believe in real vampires untill i see one and i mean a proper one not just someone who has fake fangs or anything like that....
i like to believe in them but deep down there is always that thought that they aren't real and i just want to settle that voice down

i agree with this is just for entertainment and i just enjoy meeting new people

Beginning to see a pattern emerging. In the left hand nav bar is a link titled "What is a Vampire?". Just a thought here, But it seems the primary disagreements in this thread are connected to the very individual definitions of what "vampire" means. Mayhap a common, agreed upon definition would have been a better place to start...
As for posuers...let them spew their nonsense. Not like it can be stopped in any case *grins*. And it can be kind of amusing, once translated. Typos are one thing...we all have them. Comes from thinking faster than we can type. Grossly bad grammar and a sixth grade spelling level, however, is a beast of another colour.

Dweller

*chuckles* Typonese...I gotta remember that. That's priceless!*writes it down, intending to (over)use it whenever possible*

Real Vampire / RealVamp

A sanguinarian, psychic, or energy vampyre. A real vampyre has a particular condition which includes but is not limited to the following characteristics: a real need for blood or life energy; heightened sensitivities; light sensitivity; a largely nocturnal sleep cycle, increased (but not supernatural) healing abilities; and a possibly lengthened or slowed lifespan. Where the need for blood or life energy is concerned, this is not expressed as a strictly erotic urge and often is sated outside of sexual situations. The heightened sensitivities are believed by many to include a number of psychic abilities, such as empathy, astral projection, clairvoyance, and energy manipulation. The sensitivity to light and the nocturnal body cycle are not so limiting that a real vampyre cannot be up and out during the day; it is simply an effort for them to do so. They are in no danger of bursting into flames at the touch of sunlight, although many report that they burn very easily and tend to suffer sun stroke and heat stroke. The slowed aging process has in no way been incontrovertibly proven, although many vampyres maintain a youthful twenty-something look well into their thirties. Real vampyres do not shapeshift into bats or other small furry animals. They cannot fly or rise from the dead (without perhaps the help of a defibrillator!), they do not possess phenomenally super-human strength or speed, and they are in no way physically Undead or Immortal.

I tend to agree with Vampric. There are those who feed in a variety of different ways. To gain energy, to increase their healing capabilities, or simply because they enjoy it. Does that make them a vampire? Not in the Hollywood sense. But in my view, I would say that counts as being a vampire in a lifestyle sense. Thank you for putting it so eloquently Vampric.

never claimed to be a vampire..

i was born with a tail and pointed ears.. lol now what does that make me? STRANGE!

i dont consider myself i vampire. i am just fascinated by them and i wish to be one.... but i am not one :(

As much as I complain about my typos Dweller, I have two friends who put me to shame, even at my worst. Those two have turn typos into an artform. In fact there have been times I almost had to call them up on the phone just to ask them what it was they posted somewhere because the typos had taken over to the point that you really had no clue what the words were lol.

Another thing I've seen a couple of times is someone claiming in their profile that they're hundreds of years old, then looking at their birthdate, its either late 1980's or early 90's.... Sometimes these people simply astound me with their stupidity.

I'm just me...simple as that...lol

Can't argue with you on that point memnoch since I have seen the same thing and wondered just what the people who wrote those profiles were thinking. Especially love the ones who want to convince you they are well over 500 years old and who insist that their real name is one taken straight out of an Anne Rice novel or vampire video game lol.

lol i claim not to be a vampire and i know alot of these people on here think they are ill let them believe that as long as they dont say anything about me believing im god lol so ill talk to the ones who claim to be older then they can be or that make up stupid stuff later peace out signed god

I myself have been thinking the same thing and have thinking for a while on it and still havent found an answer on it

I suppose what I am is private, first I would have to discover it first...I'm just me. I think it is slightly corny when people overplay the vampirism. Acting sexy and speaking romantically...but that's just me.

Most people, including me, are not vampires. i am just here to meet likeminded people.

I would have to agree entirely with you, Morrigon...

I am only me and I am private, yet I find my trust betrayed and my privacy invaded by those who are too ignorant to accept me for being me.

This is unacceptable behaviour for people that claim friendship, so, I count them no longer.

Before too long, it won't be such a problem any more, but in the meantime, I bid you all well until I return.

Take care,

STABB

There's such a great sense of diversity here, despite the topic of choice that started it. It's great.

I myself do not believe myself to be a vampire in any sense of the word, however I like to role play and that's what interested me enough to begin writing about vampires.

theres no such thing as a vampire, drinking blood does not make you a vampire, draining energy from a room just means that your a downer, no vampire shit about it, hell, do you rally think a vampire would spend there time on the internet?

I believe that so many people spend their time pursuing thoughts of blood or death, and then consider themselves Vampires. But what about intimacy? What about the agony that Vampires face? The knowledge they must have to stay alive? What about the fact that most vampires end up killing themselves because they simply cannot take eternal pain?

Ok, I TOO am NOT a Vampire, but I am interested in the Genre and was thinking, when I joined this site, that it was for entertainment.... let anyone beliwve what they wish...if they aren't hurting me or anyone else, then where's the problem.

AND, on the subject of speeling and "Typoese"...my typing sucks, maybe I should spell-check b4 sending but let's face it, its alot of work and in this day of ROFLMAO and other shortenings.... who can tell!?

Also, I got a gag email the other day that proves a point, it went something like this:

A sutdty pferormed rncetnely sohewd taht so lnog as the fsrit and lsat lteets are in the rgtit pacle, msot ppeole can raed any txet.

so who difference is it if I mis-spell.

nuf said

You forgot to add that the words need all of the letters that the word normally contains to be read correctly.
And mis-spelling is a result of improper learning.
I agree with certain abbreviates, like 'lol' 'rofl' 'brb' 'imho' 'afk' and the such, but not ones like 'u' '4' and the such.

I think anybody who says on the internet that they're a vampire is talking total bollocks. A vampire wouldnt go parading on the net saying "blah blah im, a real vampire' or try to be all mysterious about it, I find anyone like that extremely hard to believe.

Based on the "normal" population's view of vampires and other beasties and ghoulies, my question is this:
What sane vampire would ever admit it to people they haven't known for a few years at least?

Based on the "normal" population's view of vampires and other beasties and ghoulies, my question is this:
What sane vampire would ever admit it to people they haven't known for a few years at least?

sorry about the double post. my puter froze and I didn't think it had gone through the first time as it wasn't showing the screen.

I also have noticed that many seem to take the mythical vampire too much to their hearts.. somehow doesnt seem too realistic..

All that I will add to this post is that I am only what I know I am and will only admit to or be me. If that means other don't believe because I admit to it then so be it. I for one do not care whom does or does not believe me. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and beliefs. I will say that yes in this life I was born in 1981, and I honestly couldnt tell you what year my very first life began. I know that I am an old soul and most say that it can be seen in my eyes, but that doesnt mean I for one proclaim to be thousands and thousands of years old. I am first and formost a witch. My grammar may not be great and my punctuation definatley lacks as does my spelling. This is something I do not understand about this post. Now mind you I am not trying to step on anyones toes, but this is a place to truley put out and in the open what one feels, I do not personally see what ones grammar, spelling, or puncutation use has to do with anything. Just because one's soul may be old, does that mean that one is automatically to be the smartest being alive. Everyone makes mistakes, it is part of life. I am a psy vamp, just because I make spelling errors, etc. that doesnt make me anything less than what I am. I was born into this life just as everyone else and I had to go to school just as anyone else. Reincarnation. We all start over again to a degree with it. As I said before my reply is not to step on toes or anger people it is just my opinion and as I said before everyone is entitled to theirs.

Gosh and golley gee whiz everyone I have to say thank you for such a pleasant turn out to my query ^_^ I was figuring that I would get flamed like no tomorrow for it. I am glad to see people mainly are here for the camaraderie and meeting new folks. I like what everyone has had to say most definately.

It is a persona for me too...but I do use blood as a srouce of adrenaline...giving me sutenance.

Now I had someone message me saying that I insulted them and blah, blah, blah. Okay, for the mentally impaired I shall explain my previous post. I don't give a fuck if you have bad grammar and have alot of typoes. That's not the point. It's claiming to x amount of centuries old *and* having bad grammar with the typoes. So, calm down, adjust your cokebottle glasses, sip your Diet Pepsi and munch on your bag of Doritos, and re-read my post.

I just do my own thing and suspect that others do that themselves.

I think that there are many people on here who are what I would call posers for lack of a better term....they like the attention or simply want to fit in.....but I do believe that there are a few true vampires on this site

I believe myself to be a bit of a vampire, although not in the sense that I'm undead and i'm centuries old. I feed off of blood, psychic, and sexual energy, and I've been told that I have an old soul, which is part of why I look and act older than I actually am. I know that a ton of people on here call themselves vampires but if you were to cut yourself deep and ask them to suck, they'd think you were a freak. I don't believe that anyone, anywhere should try to be something they aren't. In life, or just on the internet...

correction, not nescessarily why i act and look older, but could offer an explanation as to how i act and look older....

Are there those that live the lifestyle to its fullest? Yes. Do some of them reside here on VR? yes. Is the site turning into mostly 15 year old emo kids who think blood is cool? Yes. Are there a ton of people on here who are a little too seriously involved with the fantasy of being a mythological immortal vampire? Yes. But there are others like Nastya, and Zub, and some others who are as genuinely what they are as any one is, and that I respect. You will not see them claiming to be a million years old, a son of Cain's sister's aunt's best friends cousin, nor any of the other silly crap eschewed on some profiles.

So if anyone really claims to be an immortal creature of the night bloodsucking vampire ala Dracula or Lestat or any other ridiculousness, I have some new handloads for my 10mm that I am itching to try out and since you can't die, please contact me for testing dates

There are many on the VR claiming to be many things. All of which becomes very obvious once communicating with them directly.

My thought is if an individual wishes to portray themselves as an immortal, undead or supernatural....at least for humor's sake....do some homework. Be creative and stop following the obvious scripts...Dracula, Lestat, the Masquerade and such. For those who are what they really say they are, human living vampires, will see through the ruse.

Many living vampyres stay on the VR in order to instruct and lead others who are truly seeking to understand their nature and learn a genuine tradition and set of teachings. To reveal oneself does not make them a counterfeit...perhaps confident and willing to make themselves available.

I also think that people who say they are 'psy vamps' are just as full of total crap as everyone else who claims to be a regular vampire.
It's all good to want to be or feel different, but this way makes you sound pretty lame.. I don't mean to offend but.. yeah I think it's rubbish and it gets on my nerves quite alot.

But Dear, how you DO offend. You speak from a perspective that shows your lack of knowledge on the subject. If you did some research, you will find that psychic or pranic vampirism does indeed exist. Your disbelief does not negate the truth.

Dom has made a good argument. All I can really say on this matter is simple. There is a big difference between wanting or thinking that you are something. And Actually being that thing. Its a feeling a knowledge and truth that you can't deny it comes from your very bones.

Yes many here try to play a game and want to believe they are some immortal being from centuries ago. Others though are far wiser and know what they are and aren't. It is easy enough to see through their wording, communication as well as the presence they give off through their words.

Vampirism is real. So is Lyconthropy. Those who are vampires should not be judged anyways. And those who do judge are now being judged themselves.
So go to hell. Users and abusers should not be allowed to be on this site. Same thing with posers!

we like many others on this fourm and we can only assume site. have statded they are not vamps... we are intrested in the concept and belifes that are all around us.. we are knowledge seekers. and as so that is what drew us to this site.

Society has always misunderstood what they don't what they can't accept. If people want to pretend to be what they are not just to feel special or be accepted than who am I or anyone else to judge them.

My only advice is that they pay attention to what is posted on this site and learn from it. And that they recognize that they don't have to pretend to be something they aren't......people will accept them anyhow.

I too came to this site to learn. I have always had my fascination with vampires and not the kind in the movies either. This group is so informative and the people wonderful. There is so much out there to learn, I dont think you could possibly do it in a lifetime. My only problem with this site, if I may, is that there are to many kids and there are certain things I think an age limit should be put on. Most kids are to unpredictable and to them, its all about the darkness and death and satanism, thats just coming from profiles I have read. There has to be a maturity level to understand..

well i like it there are lots of people to talk to and meet

Lack of knowledge, WHAT?? I probably know a damnsight more than most of the people here, I've been reading and doing reseach since I could read >:(
Just because I don't write big lengthy posts with big profound words, doesn't mean I don't know anything.
No, It just bothers me when people go around talking about it all the time, like they're trying to be something special and weird, but end up sounding silly and laughable.
The fact of the matter is that almost everybody who claims to be some form of vampire, rarely show any similarities to one an other. Everyone thinks they know best. I'v ealso noticed how almost everyone here has got their interest in vampires from tv, movies or books.
To become a vampire, you do not just randomly 'awaken', you DIE! Psychic 'vampirism' falls under a completely different section altogether as far as the unexplained goes, it's more of a more of ESP than anything else.
So don't try to kid yourself that you're some kind of undead or mythical monster

I consider myself to be a vampyre, I crave blood am very sensitive to sunlight and learn people very quickly to the point that I know what they think even before they do. What anyone else things really does not matter to me.

I am not a vampire and I really dislike those who claim to be simply because of lifestyle. Vampirism is a condition. Many of the people on this site need to accept that and realize that just because you like to drink blood or dress the way vampires supposedly dress, that you are a vampire. It doesn't. The need for pranic energy to survive is what makes you a vampire, sanguinarian or psychic. Get over it.

I don't mean to be rude or arrogant with this, but I have a number of sources to back me up, and I feel passionately about this particular topic.

Cherry, I do not claim to be some mythological creature by saying I am a psi vamp. I am only giving the appropriate term by the definition of what I do. I am sorry if you do not believe in them but that is your opinion and your right. I personally know what I am and I know what I do, so your post actually doesnt bother me. Non believers usually make me laugh. It just shows a lack of open mindedness or understanding or sometimes even a fear to believe. I am not saying that any of that applies to you. The way I see it is for those who have been offended by any of these posts.... Why be? It is not worth it. You and you alone are the only ones that know whether you are lying or telling the truth. I see no point in lying but it happens every day by more and more individuals. I know that I myself have no right to judge or question what ones beliefs or non beliefs are. Everyones individual opinions are what makes each and every one of us different and individuals.

The only reason I mentioned kids was because most of them think of occultism in the wrong way. I was a kid once too. I didnt say all, I said some... Most of the kids on here know more than I do, its just that they need to be here for the right reasons and not the wrong ones...

Totally agreed.

Oops I accidentally sent it before I was finished. lol. Basically what you mean is that we want people here that are here for a learning, sharing, or other right purpose. Not the "kids" that join just so they can go back to middle or high school and say hey I am a vampire look I joined a group of them....Just so they will be thought of as a different kind of person or a freak. I think that is what you are saying am I right?

I agree. This should be a place of learning and sharing and I too feel that a lot of kids joined here just so they could say that they were vampires.

Cursed... Thats exactly what I mean... It also scares me that some kids may use this as a tool for the occult and they dont know what they are in for.. Been there, done that many many years ago....

yeah opening those gates make it very hard to close them if you dont know.... I never actually opened one but I had to help close them. Sucked big time.

I with my best friend opened those gates.. I dont think we were ever able to close them.. Hence I believe all the bad luck we have both had in our lives.. It was a very scary situation..

I am sure that it is a bit scary. Dwelling and dabbling into the things that are unknown can be a dangerous thing.

I agree, but not everything occult is bad necessarily. Only when one gets more involved than they are prepared for does it really become dangerous. I practice magick, but I know what not to do. Very bad things can happen if you meddle in dark and black magic.

Cherry

If you read then you will no doubt have read of the ones who are psy/psi/sanguine, and there is a lot of info both here and on the net that will explain things if you wish to learn.

There are many here who claim to be vampire and are not, there are many who will say they are to help those who wish to learn.

No you cannot become if the gift is not there......to say that vampirism does not exist to me says you have not read in the places devoted to real life vampires.

As for people not being the same......I know for a fact there are those here who have links both blood and psy with others, and have had them for many years. There are also ones now who are being drawn to their own because like draws to like.

What many in this thread are saying is that the ones who wander around claiming to be 100's of years old and living in coffins is not what real life vampire is about, and it does get tiring to have thread upon thread of wannabes claiming to be....

But to attack as you have and defend it by saying how much you know to me shows how little you do know, and I would suggest that perhaps you read more and find out who may be the ones who actually are what they claim to be.

Thank you I am glad someone was able to say what I wanted to say in a very nice way.

I have my thoughts on vampires, but what I noticed since I got here in August, and that seems very little time, but still, it made me realize that, the concepts we have of eachother, and of vampires, seem to change like the tides...(and by tides, read opinions of popular members)
Well, isen't change the only constant of the Universe, as they say?...
I believe that the vampires of VR are as the vampires that we'll meet outside VR. Period.

Nyyyargh.. I'm certainly not close-minded, or a non-believer, or any of that. Basically, I'm saying that I don't believe people on the internet who go around pretending to be a vampire (as in the undead blood drinking type), and go on about the burden of immortality and all that tripe. I certainly believe in vampires, I always have done, but I really get bothered when people who have just seen movies decide that they must be vampire all of a sudden, and go around being all mysterious and that. It's really annoying! Bah!
And seeecondly, I'm saying that psychic vampirism may exsist, but it is not vampirism, that is just the term used, it's a form of ESP (extra sensory perception for those who dont know), a psychic ability not unlike telepathy or psycometry, etc.
Thirdly, being light-sensitive, anti-religious and rather morbid doesn't make you a vampire either.
For example, I'm all those things, my eyes burn and throb so much in even plain light that I should be wearing dark glasses 24/7. I love vampires, I like blood, nighttime, am extremely morbid.. but that doesn't make me a vampire! nd I'm not going to convince myself that I am one, even though I'd like to be :p

One fine thing about the internet is: You don't really know who you're dealing with. You can choose how you depict yourself, which is mostly a desire of what you would like to be, not what you are. No one could ever prove otherwise cause your identity is covered.

Hey cherry

Can agree with whatyou say there cept for the psy vamp being he same as ESP etc.

Psy/psi vamps 'feed' off energy and have a need to do so, not feeding will have an impact on them..

There are many who have heightened psychic powers who are certainly not vampire......there are many vamps who feed 'psy' who have no idea they do it and certainly cannot use a psychic gift.

There are some who both feed and have a high awareness of their psychic gifts and some who have higher spiritual gifts...

Psy feeding is as much of a need as is sanguine.

The things you say re the coffin dwelling 1000 year immortal vamp lol agrees with much that has been said here in this thread and others.

Be well Cherry

Vampires...

I meet them all the time...

but I never meet them a second time.

I personally don't claim to be a vampire...nor am I saying that they don't exist. What draws me to this site is the diversity....you have some that claim and others that don't....in all reality do we not have the same traits as a vamp, for example....there are some that feed off of the energy of others....do we not all do that at some time or another?....others feed through sex....once again, do we not ingage in the act in order to sustain a healthy libido and what not....and then of course there are those that feed off of blood....if we're unlucky, some of us will need a transfusion in order to survive....so in saying this, I am happy being just me.

Yes, at one time or another, almost everyone takes or interacts with another's energy. What makes psychic and sanguinarian vampires different is their need to do so to survive.

Why do people find it necessary to label themselves? Is it so they feel they 'belong'?

I am only that which I am. Lable me or not, makes no difference to me. I have been drawn to the darkness as long as I can remember. I do belive a lot of the children on this and other sites know not what it is to be "Goth" or " Vampire", but find it a fad for them to play Halloween year round.

well cherry, you certainly are an intelligent young woman, I believe you should be able to decipher for yourself when to stop. You may not be ahead, but at least you can stop before you get too embarassed by what people have to say to you. (you're beautiful as well and have a lovely profile, but you DO need to learn how to just let it lie.)

I'm positive that psy/sang vampires exist. They do not need to share that they are vampires, and true ones are less likely to post all over anywhere that they are vampires. Because there are a lot of people who just say things like that just to fit in or "look cool". There's nothing cool about trying to be something that you aren't...

i myself do not like to be someone or in this case something i am not! i merely have an obsession with vampires

vr is great im not a vampire and i dont claim to b one but i wish i was one

This is the "Vampire Rave" where such individuals can be open about who and what they are. It's not like modern vampires are actually having to run for their lives because they just drained a human of all their blood or because the sun is rising. Many make themselves known in order to help others understand the truth about what vampirism is really about. Mind you, many do it just for attention or shock value and those are the ones who tend to see vampires from the mythological sense of the word. To say that one is vampire is the same as saying you're a christian or pagan, democrat or republican, football or basketball fan. If it is something you embrace, then why stay under the radar???

I feel i would b considerd "drawn" 2 things
like vampireism. i HAV drank blood before.
im not gothic or nothin like that, but i wish
i was. i mean, vampires r my main obbsession right now.

At first I tried to pretend I was one too, but too many treated me like I was beneath their notice, so i made the true calling of me, true I hear voices and maybe they are vampire, spirits, and wolf; but does that make me crazy or weird.

I have mixed notions on this subject. As many have oustted those who claim to have any real affliation with vamps; yet this is promoted as a site for *all* knowledge that is akin to vampiric.

I don't know what that says for the those who are acting as though the majority is beneath them, as I have noted in a particular post, or those who are "pretending" for the sake of making the lifestyle/disease cool.

I personally have been a vamp for alot longer than I have been a member here, I have also talked with many older than me who are vamps themselves and even though they have had their doubts, as many of my kind have, we have agreed at some time or another that we are what we are. Perhaps it's not quite exactly Vampirism as many here see the "Old-Style" movie-inflicted curse.... but We do suffer a disease that acts like Vampirism. So that is what it is called.

I am not sorry to tread on toes, but I can recant and consider other's opinions in comparison to my own, but for now.

As for these VR vamps... I have nothing to say on it because I would not let such a politically-inclined thought to waver my opinion of the people here. Just yet.


Consider what the site is about, then... Just then... Think about the kind of people you attract. And how you promote it.

Then do use your intelligence to answer your own question of why these people are here.

*Vampire* Rave.
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Vix

Yes, I will agree about people claiming they are vampires and say they have lived hundreds even thousands of years.

Well if you say something as that, don't show that you are some little kid with the bad spelling and/or grammar.

If you're gonna "pretend" that you are centeries or even milleniums old, then act more like it instead of acting like some kid or immature adult.

most people say they're a vampire to make them look 'cool' rather than actually is one in reality.

I, myself ain't a vampire though I do like blood and have grown into a habit of craving it once a month and you know if i don't have my monthly dose of blood by the way i act... I have no shame of joining a vampire site but not being one..

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